could 3 superstars on 1 team happen?

by bdmac on Feb 25, 2010 12:58 PM PST

preface: something like this might already exist in here, but I'd like to start a section callled "beyond the blazers" where you just put BB before your post or shot. I love the blazers, but more so I love basketball. anyway on with the post...

i think it might be more of a possibility than it might seem from surface. The article in the link talks about how they might just do it for the dynasty or do it for the championships...historically this hasn't truly been @ the top of any player's priorities. The Elite guys want their max deals, no ifs, ands, or buts. Here's the thing that has the CHANCE to change the game this time. There are a few places where 3 of the elites could go and still make big salaries, because obviously bron bron wouldn't sign for the mid-level exception with the lakers to play with kobe and win 4 or 5 straight. So this unique circumstance of a few teams being able to offer 8 figures to 3 guys @ the same time matters. What could come into play for these guys is the idea that they could make themselves a 3 man package and in turn earn themselves a significant amount MORE in endorsements. If these guys all go to miami, or new york, or maybe even chicago...they could do it....imagine the money to be made for a team that could win 70 games/year for 4 or 5 years

here's the list of possibles for this summer- obviously kobe and dirk are extreme longshots to leave their teams-it could happen. and im a gambler

joe johnson
paul pierce (eto)
lebron
dirk (eto)
kobe (player)
rudy gay (restricted)
d wade (player)
david lee
amare (eto)
bosh (p)
boozer

I'd say there's 3 levels here and to guarantee a championship you'd need @ least 1 guy from the top level and not have your 2 other guys be in the 3rd level, but otherwise you're golden (golden = min. 4 championships no matter if your other starting 2 are darko and kwame brown) The following are my borderline arbitrary levels

level 1 bron,wade

level 2 kobe (level 2 just because of the miles on his legs),bosh,dirk

level 3 joe johnson, amare, boozer, david lee, rudy gay, paul pierce

I'm just thinking, bron and wade are businessmen-I'm sure they see this angle- which would be the ONLY reason it could be a possibility. The egos though....the egos could end something great before it has a chance to exist.

happy thursday basketball fans

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there is not enough room in an arena for 3 superstar's egos....

This is how I think the summer will turn out……

joe johnson- staying w/ Hawks
paul pierce- staying w/ Celtics
lebron- staying w/ Cleveland
dirk- staying w/ Dallas
kobe- staying w/ LA
rudy gay- staying w/ Memphis
d wade- leaving Miami
david lee- 50/50
amare- 50/50
bosh- leaving Toronto
boozer- 50/50

I have a feeling that DWade is going to end up in Chicago.
Now, if Dwade and Bosh got together and went to Chicago, that would be a crazy good team: Rose/Wade/Deng/Bosh/Noah
But I think Boozer would be a better fit with DWade in Chicago because both Bosh and Wade want to be the #1 guy on their team.
So many combinations, too little time….
In the end, I just don’t see 2 ‘superstars’ who are the #1 option on their respective teams right now joining forces. Too much ego.

by jenstcy on Feb 25, 2010 1:36 PM PST reply actions

See:

Shaq + Kobe

Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!

by axel360 on Feb 25, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions

Also Malone and Payton

In 2003-2004, the Lakers had FOUR superstars:
Kobe
Shaq
Karl Malone
Gary Payton

Technically Malone and Payton were getting old, but they still had their egos.

It almost worked, they lost in the NBA Finals to Detroit.

by unblindloyalty on Feb 25, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions

yeah, they had superstar egos, but no longer had their superstar talent

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by Magnum on Feb 25, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions

I see you already caught it, but I reiterate, Payton/Malone NOT superstars.

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by staylost on Feb 25, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions

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by LaMarvelous on Feb 25, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions

Payton was washed up - Malone is what made that team special

I think they would’ve cruised to the title if he was healthy.

When they were all healthy, they were DESTROYING the competition. I distinctly remember the Thanksgiving game against the defending champ Spurs, and the Lakers absolutely wiped them off the court. Malone’s time with Stockton definitely rubbed off – he was a great passing big man late in his career.

I still hated them though.

Holding out for Hedo

by T$ 225 on Feb 26, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions

Disagree on a few

Joe Johnson – Hawks or NY 50/50 chance
Rudy Gay is not staying with Memphis they will not pay to keep him (I could see him in NY)
D Wade – Stays in Miami and they get another star there, D wade will see more money and better weather in Miami
Boozer – Leaves Utah probally to Miami if Bosh doesn’t go there first

"Get three superstars and then fill the roster with guys willing to go through a wall to win." - KP

by jlarose78 on Feb 25, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions

Also Rudy will go to Memphis and Conley will come to Portland

"Get three superstars and then fill the roster with guys willing to go through a wall to win." - KP

by jlarose78 on Feb 25, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions

Joe Johnson to Chicago. They will have a deadly front court

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by GertJohnnys on Feb 25, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions

Some superstar-quality trios from the past:

Magic, Kareem, Worthy
Wilt, West, Baylor
Bird, McHale, Parish
Russell, Havlicek, Sam Jones
Jordan, Pippen, Rodman
Olajuwon, Drexler, Barkley

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by CatMan2 on Feb 25, 2010 2:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs

Those above who were not superstars or were not at that level on the team because of age or injury:
Worthy
McHale
Parish
Rodman
Drexler
Barkley
etc.

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by staylost on Feb 25, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions

i remember a jordan interview where he said rodman was the best defensive player he had ever seen

a superstar doesn’t have to be an offensive player

by utahcoyote on Feb 25, 2010 7:54 PM PST up reply actions

'86 celtics

definitely had 3 superstars – bird, parish, mchale

none of their players were past their prime at that point bird was 29, mchale 28 and parish 32. they all played every game of the playoffs and were largely injury free that year.

rodman was also outstanding in ‘96 and ’98. definitely a superstar defensively and in terms of rebounding. he led the entire league one of those years and in another was 2nd to only david robinson. he wasn’t an offensive guy but he was a star no doubt.

by colinmarsh on Feb 25, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions

Gay is out of there. He wants to get paid. he will go to the clippers or new york.

"It's just senseless! 33 million for 2 years of Z-Bo? Might as well pay 33 million to get kicked in the balls 82 times a year."-Eric in Madison(Canis Hoops)

by YikesItsCameron on Feb 25, 2010 6:16 PM PST up reply actions

Poor Clippers or New York.

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by staylost on Feb 25, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions

I have seen a number of the Clips Nation guys say that they would like to have him.

by LaMarvelous on Feb 25, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions

in a vaccum

lint rules all

the few, the proud, the blazers

by HD on Feb 25, 2010 2:32 PM PST reply actions

its funny, but it also makes you think

by In Walks Rudy on Feb 25, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions

Garnett, Pierce, Allen are arguably 3 superstars... they've done fine

by WakeUpOden on Feb 25, 2010 3:31 PM PST reply actions

Two years ago, sure.

Garnett is washed up now. Allen isn’t having a very good year, and frankly none of those guys are as valuable to the franchise at this point as Rondo.

Holding out for Hedo

by T$ 225 on Feb 26, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions

Rondo is their man, now...

Garnett is a shadow of his former self but he’s not quite washed up yet.

Either way the Celtics won’t be much of anything until they turn over all the old gues

by blazer_tk on Feb 27, 2010 4:19 AM PST up reply actions

guys*

ugh… it’s late.

by blazer_tk on Feb 27, 2010 4:20 AM PST up reply actions

you need a big man and a star wing

all 3 of the big guns this summer (lebron, wade, bosh) will NOT end up on the same team, despite what the article on ESPN today discusses…book it, it’s not going to happen…you really think Lebron is going to leave $30M on the table in Cleveland to go play with those guys somewhere, no way

you have to have a wing that can create his shot anytime and score, and a big man that can score from the post and draw a double team – it’s the formula that has won the last decade of NBA titles

I don’t think Lebron and Wade going to the same team would be effective…but either of those 2 guys and Bosh would be.

in response to the first post:

joe johnson- staying w/ Hawks (not necessarily…you could see him end up in CHI, NY, or NJ if they don’t a top 3 guy)
paul pierce- staying w/ Celtics (yup, Celtic for life)
lebron- staying w/ Cleveland (don’t be so sure..Lebron has goals outside of ball that would be better served in NY or Miami)
dirk- staying w/ Dallas (yup)
kobe- staying w/ LA (yup)
rudy gay- staying w/ Memphis (no, he’ll get a big offer from NJ, LAC, or another team that misses out on the big 3)
d wade- leaving Miami (maybe not…CHI is going to make a STRONG pitch, and they have a nice young core)
david lee- 50/50 (he’s going to be back, he’s their best player and if they don’t get their big 2 guys he’ll re-sign)
amare- 50/50 (he’ll opt in for next year and take that $17M, then hit the market the next year with less competition)
bosh- leaving Toronto (I agree – he’ll pair up with Wade, or the dark horse is OKC, imagine them with Bosh…jesus)
boozer- 50/50 (Jazz are either going to trade him or Millsap, I think he ends up in Chicago with Wade possibly)

by rip_city_swagger on Feb 25, 2010 4:47 PM PST reply actions

I think the only reason that there is any disagreement on this thread is due to different definitions of Superstar.

…and good luck coming up with a definition that everyone will agree with.

by LaMarvelous on Feb 25, 2010 9:17 PM PST reply actions

anyone who can touch this will be a superstar.

"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.

"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.

by Tofu Anonymous on Feb 25, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions

we need all our centers to touch this too

"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.

"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."

-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.

by Tofu Anonymous on Feb 25, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs

how about bron, bosh, and boozer on the same team

that would be NASTY!

by Captain fruit on Feb 26, 2010 12:33 AM PST reply actions

It would be abolutely ....

BORING. like following the GlobeTrotters to see if they will manage to defeat the Washington Generals, yet another time. Isn’t the steady diet of LeBron vs. Kobe vs. DWade on national TV nauseating enough? I guess it would devolve into having to watch the LeBron/Kobe/DWade superteam scrimmage against their second team on national TV rather than risk showing some small market teams play. I shudder to imagine what it would be like listening to Marv Albert or the TNT toadies falling over each other to rave about this superteam.

by dogbert on Feb 26, 2010 9:26 AM PST reply actions