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The True Escape Goat

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The Goat that Needs to Escape:


Rudy Fernandez, the guy most Blazer fans(especially the women) love to death. I believe that the love given to this player is unwarranted. The PTB fans are head over heels for an inconsistent scorer, lazy defender, and one dimensional player. I can only think of 3 things that make people wild for Rudy and they are.

  • Being Handsome
  • Being Spanish
  • Being Flashy

While those are things that fans love, they do not translate to being a successful basketball player. Rudy does not have any kind of game inside the 3 point line and can't create his own shot. He whines about not getting minutes but all he has tried to develop is a little tear drop when he attempts to drive the lane.

The tear drop is an especially difficult shot to defend because it's virtually impossible to block, particularly when a lanky and athletic 6-foot-6 player such as Fernandez is attempting it. And because so few players in the NBA use it, it's unconventional and often surprising.

 

There are negatives. As Blazers assistant coach Monty Williams says, it's a "high risk, high reward" shot because a miss often results in a long rebound and fast break for the opposing team.

When unsuccessful (which is most of the time) Rudy creates an advantage for the opposing team. If Rudy gets cut off when he attempts to drive, he ends up taking an impossible spinning fade away. There is nothing that differentiates Rudy Fernandez from Steve Blake except for flashiness which doesn't count for anything when trying to win a basketball game.

 

The Undeserving Goats:

Steve Blake and Travis Outlaw. 2 guys that gave their all to this organization and continually improved their game over their stay here. While being long time Blazers that had proved their worth to the organization, fans became unruly and disliked these players for making mistakes that many NBA players make.

 

Travis Outlaw

Came to the Blazers as nothing more than a raw and athletic player. Anywhere outside of 15 feet was almost unbearable to watch. Through his years here he worked continually on his jump shot and became a deadly shooter. Besides being the 6th man for us he provided us with spectacular dunks where he would leap out of the building, he would hit clutch shots and game winners to earn the nickname "Mr. Fourth Quarter", and was the only player other than Brandon Roy to be able to create his own shot. Still he wasn't a perfect player and he made mistakes. His mistakes would be extrapolated by Blazer fans and he would be ridiculed and disliked even though his impact on the floor was more good than bad.

 

Steve Blake:

Our steady hand. Brandon Roy's preferred point guard. Steve was the starting point guard on a 54 win team and was a major part of our 08-09 success. Steve also had his shortcomings. He was a slow and steady point that couldn't run the break. When we brought in Dre, I was in full support of Dre being the starting point because he was simply better than Steve. However, Steve was constantly crucified when he got more minutes than Rudy. Steve's playstyle worked great with our superstar. Stand in the corner, hit the 3. But when needed, he was able to penetrate and kick or hit a layup. Like Travis, any mistake made by Steve was blown out of proportion which led fans calling for his head.

 

Final Thoughts:

Steve and Travis were OUR safety blankets, not Nate's, not Roy's. We needed them around to help us cope with losses. We could always blame Travis or blame Steve when they really didn't contribute more to the loss than anyone else on the team. It's a team, they win together and lose together, and that is what the game is about. Rudy seems to not understand that if he's not hitting his three balls, he is a liability to the team. Rudy deserves more hate than Travis or Steve ever did.

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Official Adrian Wojnarowski Hater.

The Ardent Optimist.

by fajunga on Feb 24, 2010 12:57 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Seeing the good general's dome always makes me wonder

what’s Mchael Ruffin doing, these days?

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by two4larue on Feb 24, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

lol

Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.

by Starvin' Marvin on Feb 24, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

Super Rodgers Bros.

#52

by cloudydays on Feb 24, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Great post Marv!

Rudy fans are blinded by the 3 things mentioned above. Get over it! He has more bad nights then he does good nights, and he’s not even as exciting as he used to be. I probably have as many dunks as he does this year, now that his boyfriend Sergio isn’t here to throw him alley-oops.

by LJ. on Feb 26, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

YEAH

Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.

by Starvin' Marvin on Feb 26, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

i liked it until you went in to "defend Trav and Blake" mode.

gotta make the fanpost about why Rudy deserves more criticism, not about why Trav and Steve didn’t deserve criticism.

by DrivetheLane on Feb 24, 2010 1:04 PM PST reply actions  

Im comparing it

Trav and Steve got criticism for stuff Rudy does yet Rudy doesnt get criticism for it.

Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.

by Starvin' Marvin on Feb 24, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

i see...

i liked your use of the 5 paragraph essay.

by DrivetheLane on Feb 24, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

hmm....

cause i see introduction, 3 points, and then a conclusion….

by DrivetheLane on Feb 24, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

pure coincidence I’m sure

#10, #21, #52

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by The Arkitect on Feb 24, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

That's because in the minds of many, Trav and Steve no longer have room for improvement.

Rudy’s a second year NBA player, who—at least potentially—still has time for growth.

Steve Blake is what he is (quite good, imo, but not even within FedEx distance of great), and Travis has already had his nine lives, and has not made enough progress to satisfy most Blazers fans (although again, I quite like his game, as limited as it may be).

by Marvin100 on Feb 27, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Outlaw is only 6 months older than Rudy

I am hands down the greatest Blazers fan on Blazersedge.

by tominhawaii on Feb 28, 2010 1:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Right--and five years more experienced in the NBA.

Not saying I agree, but it’s hardly inexplicable that many people see it that way. It’s certainly not about age. Batum’s barely out of diapers and I think he’s already better than Travis (and Rudy, even, imo), with a LOT less experience. His ceiling’s certainly looking a lot higher.

by Marvin100 on Feb 28, 2010 1:40 AM PST up reply actions  

well.. it's barely the same game...

  first.. in terms of number of games.. he’s barely played one NBA season worth of games..
second.. the game isn’t played the same.. it isn’t scouted the same.. it doesn’t have the same level of talent..
  additionally.. you’re all wrong.. both outlaw and rudy could still improve.. it’s hard to imagine how blake would improve more… and I think he is tapping his range.. but trav is mostly just hard hard hard work away from moving in the direction of a josh smith-level player..
  the type of improvements change and it will take more work to get there.. but the idea that a player hits an age,number of years, etc and can’t improve their game anymore is dumb and the evidence i’ve seen to the contrary is misleading..

the biggest prob with trav is that it’s hard to imagine his awareness during the game changing a lot.. (that’s also why rudy is special.. he’s got a great awareness of the game and could develop into a lot better than we have seen given directed training and the desire to be better) but if he would spend his time practicing rebounding, boxing out, switching, and all forms of d..d..d..

by galacticlove on Feb 28, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That is exactly where Rudy differs from Travis

Rudy has a high basketball I.Q. and does things that don’t appear in the box score. He tips rebounds in the right direction, gets quite a few steals, and is lights out from three, especially when we need one. Sure he can’t create his own shot as well as Travis but he knows where to be and will hit the three’s we need it tight games. In the first post it says how being flashy is a bad thing, but did Steve Blake ever rock the Garden like Rudy continually does? Having a huge fan base is a great weapon for us, and the Blazer fans at the games get fired up when Rudy gets flashy, thus giving the Blazers an edge because they have the fan support coaxing them on.

by clarkbar17 on Feb 28, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Sergio knows how to treat Rudy. Too bad Miller doesn’t understand.

I get the paper, so I don't care!

by Name's Ash on Feb 24, 2010 1:23 PM PST reply actions  

I used to play on a city league team

that featured these two buddies that would only pass to each other, and neither was effective without the other. It sucked. Our team played better without either of them.

by superfly05 on Feb 25, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

phhht.

"What people need to know is that those pictures were taken a year and a half ago, and I've grown since then." - Greg Oden

by dario argento on Feb 24, 2010 1:28 PM PST reply actions  

I voted for "none of the above"

Martell has tenure and should be the new scapegoat. Rudy needs to wait his turn

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by two4larue on Feb 24, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

which is kind of the point, eh?

Rudy can’t even crack the scapegoat starting lineup

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by two4larue on Feb 24, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

then post phhht.

that’s reasonable…

#52. Get well soon.

by Eat Politicians on Feb 27, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Ha ha, I was thinking NONE OF THE ABOVE, but BOTH OF THE ABOVE is appropriate, too!

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by timbo on Feb 24, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I wanted a both of the above, too.

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Feb 25, 2010 12:23 AM PST up reply actions  

well argued

but I still love Rudy with an unconditional love that shuts out all attempts at introducing logic into the discussion. – Elgin

GOP in HD

by 22baylor on Feb 24, 2010 2:23 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

see this is my point

Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.

by Starvin' Marvin on Feb 24, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

You aren't taking into account the fans who acknowledge his faults and still love him

And you are also lumping all Rudy lovers into the Steve/Trout hate club.

Official Adrian Wojnarowski Hater.

The Ardent Optimist.

by fajunga on Feb 24, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Right

There were fans that acknowledged Steve and Travis’ faults and still loved them. There are fans that see Rudy’s faults and still love him.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
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by jscot on Feb 25, 2010 5:23 AM PST up reply actions  

but I also loved Blake and Outlaw too

and I still do, even after their careful and crafty escape. – Elgin

GOP in HD

by 22baylor on Feb 25, 2010 12:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn't the term "Scape Goat?"

"What we have here, is a failure to communicate."

by with_a_z on Feb 24, 2010 2:23 PM PST reply actions  

no

Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.

by Starvin' Marvin on Feb 24, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Escape Goat


First used by the ignorant for the word “scapegoat” but it is now commonplace to use it tounge-in-cheek, just as the word “Internets” is used referencing Dubya’s plural addition to the singular item.

Just because someone uses Escape Goat doesn’t mean they believe it to be correct. Most of the time they are messing around.

Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.

by Starvin' Marvin on Feb 24, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

nice save!!

You do know you can just edit the post, right?

Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’

by 92wastheyear on Feb 24, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I love Rudy but don't think he's a great NBA player right now.

I hope he improves because I like the way he plays—he’s flashy and excitable and personable. Personality matters. It’s a long season and the outcome of 82 games is not enough to keep me watching. But, yeah, Rudy has some weaknesses and has been a disappointment, but as a fan, I just hope that he improves.

by PoliSam on Feb 24, 2010 2:53 PM PST reply actions  

I agree

Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’

by 92wastheyear on Feb 24, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

This guy is a troll

He is really a Bulls fan

Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’

by 92wastheyear on Feb 24, 2010 3:01 PM PST reply actions  

MOM

why you gotta ruin my fun?

Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.

by Starvin' Marvin on Feb 24, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I know you love your Spiderman jammies

but isn’t it time to get dressed? It is 3pm already

Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’

by 92wastheyear on Feb 24, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes but what team is complete without a diva?

I sure as heck don’t want Roy or Aldridge taking up that spot.

Seriously though, Rudy is not that great of a basketball player. He is a good athlete, and a damn better baller than any of us fo’ sure, but his “basketball” talents are nothing to put him in a different class than most NBA players. He is more of a media personality than most Blazers (rarely do I hear of other blogs) and a fan favorite. I read something recently about CDR where an older player encouraged his personality (reaching out to fans through twitter and what not), suggesting that it would help keep his value up. These guys are in an entertainment business! If these 82 games weren’t fun to watch (and offer more than just basketball) than there would be no NBA.

That being said if Rudy does not recognize the position he is in (playing badly coming off an injury but loved by fans) and accept and work with it, than there isn’t much we can do long term… Rudy could get a permanent home here as a fan favorite coming off the bench for the 1, 2 and 3 position (to get his MPG up), but he has to let Portland know he is ok with that relationship (and hit his 3 pointers). I just don’t see him being ok with that… sad too because he is an exciting player to watch and make my Blazer games that much better

by Sir.Ludo on Feb 24, 2010 3:12 PM PST reply actions  

Couldn't disagree more

Coming back from a back injury isn’t an easy thing to deal with. Pile that on top of playing years of a very different style of basketball than Nateball and not having a guy who sets you up every time and you have a slump. He looks very different from the guy we saw last year. That doesn’t mean his deserves to be thrown under the bus. I could care less that he is from Spain and is a pretty boy, he still is one of the few guys on this team than can single handedly change the flow of the game within seconds. He isn’t going to start on this team, but because of his size and defense, I don’t see many teams in the NBA that would start him. He’s got a good thing going here and he knows it, but he is also very valuable to us especially now that Travis is gone. He’s our Vinnie Johnson.

I’m pretty disappointed that yet again a player has to vent his frustration to sources outside of the coach and GM. This seems to be happening way too much for a professional franchise. Why Nate and KP haven’t had a sit down long ago and on a regular basis with Rudy about his future and his role on the team is beyond me.

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by koyote on Feb 24, 2010 3:16 PM PST reply actions  

I had to rec this for this sentence ....

“Steve and Travis were OUR safety blankets, not Nate’s, not Roy’s.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Feb 24, 2010 4:53 PM PST reply actions  

Its true

Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.

by Starvin' Marvin on Feb 24, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

great....photo!

ehhhh fanpost

alll i know is i love me some rudy fernandez NO MATTER WHAT !
but it would be nice to have the rudy from last season….i know you just witnessed the first quarter half mmmhmmmm hater

loveisrespect

by portlandgiirl91 on Feb 24, 2010 5:08 PM PST reply actions  

no what im saying is

the hypocrisy of bedge is insane

Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.

by Starvin' Marvin on Feb 24, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

so’s ur face!

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

Super Rodgers Bros.

#52

by cloudydays on Feb 24, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You're right!!

Rudy does sux.

Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’

by 92wastheyear on Feb 24, 2010 7:38 PM PST reply actions  

i would wear a baggy jersey too

if i had chest hair like that

the few, the proud, the blazers

by HD on Feb 24, 2010 8:09 PM PST reply actions  

I totally disagree with your take on Rudy.

The style of his game is still mostly European and HE is still dang good at it.

But that fact has nothing what so ever to do with Steve Blake or Travis Outlaw. Their merits or problems belong only to them and are unrelated to Rudy’s

Any resemblance between these situations is exclusively the fault of us knuckleheads here on BlazersEdge.

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by LaMarvelous on Feb 24, 2010 8:12 PM PST reply actions  

Rudy is impressive.

He isn’t afraid of 4th quarter moments, he is awesome on steals, he is a 3pt. sharpshooter, and he does a lot of little things well.

There is a lot of Rudy to like without you having to turn to insulting me.

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by staylost on Feb 24, 2010 8:25 PM PST reply actions  

impressive?

He scores 8 pts per game. His minutes are basically the same as they have been his whole career. His sharpshooting 3 pt % is down this year to 35%. His field goal percentage is down, his turnovers are up. I really don’t get it. There are guys on the bench that deserve more minutes than Rudy, but the fact that he sells jerseys and has a lot of 12 year old girl followers seems to carry a lot of weight.

Oh and I saw his 4th quarter moments against Utah the other night. Bringing his weak crap into the lane and getting owned by Fasenko? Know your role and give the ball to B-Roy!

by LJ. on Feb 26, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW

Rudy gets some of the easiest looks at 3’s I’ve ever seen. He very rarely has someone in his face when he shoots.

by LJ. on Feb 26, 2010 1:16 PM PST up reply actions  

^

Hater.

Official Adrian Wojnarowski Hater.

The Ardent Optimist.

by fajunga on Feb 26, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

the truth hurts

I actually don’t have anything against Rudy. My problem is more w/ trailblazer management (Paul Allen said Rudy will be an All-Star one day – LMAO!), and all the Rudy lovers out there that have no valid argument, and can’t admit that Rudy’s performance on the court and his stats don’t measure up to the love and the hype.

by LJ. on Feb 26, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh...

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The Ardent Optimist.

by fajunga on Feb 26, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I love him, but not for his flashiness

I like him for his hustle plays. For running defenders all over the court. For coming from all the way across the court to grab a rebound that the other team was being lazy on because they didn’t think any Blazers were trying. Those are more than just flash.

A more consistent shot would be really nice though.

by Gargen on Feb 24, 2010 9:28 PM PST reply actions  

Rudy had a great game tonight.

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by dario argento on Feb 24, 2010 9:33 PM PST reply actions  

Rudy Fernandez, SG 32 6-9 3-5 2-2 1 6 7 3 1 0 1 5 +24 17

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by lee3022 on Feb 25, 2010 12:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Every team needs a sharpshooter like Rudy

his defensive opportunism is essential with how vanilla our defense usually is. Before Batum’s return he was our best perimeter defender. I still don’t think he’s entirely healthy or comfortable since returning from his injury this year. It’s going to take some time. He’s still our 5th best player, and is only 24 years old. The 2 and 3 are interchangeable usually, as just wing positions, and Roy’s ability to defend the 3, makes a Roy Rudy combo on the wings a perfectly acceptable combo. Ideally he doesn’t play PG unless the other two perimeter players on the court can control the ball with their dribble.

He is drastically better than either Blake or Outlaw, especially long term.

by as11osu on Feb 24, 2010 9:48 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

He’s still our 5th best player

Not when Oden returns

Roy
Oden
LMA
MIller
Batum

Brandon doesn’t need to guard SFs anymore, now that Nic and Martell are healthy. If Rudy remains a long-term Blazer it will be because of the owner’s infatuation with him, as opposed to Fernandez being the right fit for Portland’s roster

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by two4larue on Feb 24, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Rudy and Roy are better on the wings long term

than Roy and Webster.

Especially with a halfway decent point guard. Rudy is just as good defensively as Webster, and Roy is actually better in short stints on 3’s than 2’s.

Fernandez has a perfectly legitimate 30 minutes slated for him on this team for the foreseeable future. Rudy is absolutely the right fit on this roster, times a couple when we actually get the right coach. If we’re talking about fit, Miller isn’t better than Rudy with Roy (Miller is just as good on this team playing without Roy as with him). The Roy Rudy combo is great for killing teams when they don’t have a dominant wing scorer to put on the court.

by as11osu on Feb 24, 2010 10:16 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

you know I'm never going to agree with this

Roy is an all-star guard, not a small forward. Sure, Nate’s system interchanges the wing positions but that doesn’t make it a good idea for Roy to defend SFs. Batum is a better all-around player than Rudy right now, and the gap will continue to widen. Webster can defend SFs better than Roy, especially the more-physical forwards. Playing Brandon out of position and defending players heavier than he is will only lead to more injuries

Rudy had a nice game tonight, just like Martell has had some nice games, lately. Nate rewarded Rudy with more PT because of it, as he should. OTOH, Fernandez had a brutal game against Phoenix a few weeks ago and played less than 7 minutes. Which performance is indicative of the “real” #5? The truth is somewhere in the middle, and Rudy’s seasons averages have been earned, as much as you might like to blame the inconsistent results on Nate or Rudy’s recovery from back surgery

Bottom line, Fernandez is not good enough to be a starter on a contending team. At best he’s a 6th man, but If his shot is “off” he doesn’t do enough to justify being out on the floor in a close game. Rudy and Martell are two inconsistent peas in the same pod. Nic is the future, Rudy is older and may already have reached his peak. I’d flip him this summer, but Paul would probably nix the deal unless there’s a superstar coming back Portland’s way

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Feb 24, 2010 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

If you remember, I was never arguing against Batum

he’s always been my long term starting 3. However, Rudy is the 6th man/next best wing. He fits with both Batum and Roy better than Webster does (there really isn’t a debate to be had here). Rudy is every bit the defender Webster is, he just does it in his own way. Roy is just as competent defending teams 2nd best SF’s or 2nd best SG’s. Batum defends opponents best wing player for all of HIS minutes. If we can get a better player (like Ariza which I advocated for this offseason), that’s one thing, but right now, Rudy is that guy. And he’s a GREAT 6th man and fit on this team.

When Rudy’s shot is off he provides a better overall game than Webster when his is off (defense/passing/court sense etc). Unless Rudy is the biggest piece we give up in a deal for our franchise point guard, he shouldn’t be traded. He has a great contract and he DOES fit.

by as11osu on Feb 24, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd flip both Rudy and Martell in a heartbeat

for a superior defensive 2-3 who can spread the floor and shoot the 3 ball, especially one with playoff experience. I don’t know who “that” guy is, though, so in the meantime Nate might as well rotate the two of them in and out of the lineup in hopes that at least one of them will strike a match on any given night

Rudy and Bayless’ best hope for a future in PDX is for Batum to develop “point forward” skills so KP doesn’t have to go looking for another starting PG in a year. If Nate McMillian could play PG in the NBA, I’m guessing #88 can see “over” the defense and deliver the ball into the post just as well. Oden will be waiting on the other end of those entry passes

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Feb 24, 2010 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I dislike this post

we all know… and I would’ve been happy had rudy been traded before the deadline. but this post is…

by sparks89 on Feb 24, 2010 9:53 PM PST reply actions  

I agree with the OP's main point

Fans do not hold players to the same standards. I always thought Blake and Outlaw were disliked for social reasons beyond basketball.

Regarding Rudy, I think his drop off in play is most likely due to injury, Sergio being gone, and Andre Miller lot liking Rudy. Even the most ardent Miller supporters would have to admit that Sergio is better at getting the Rudy the ball than Miller.

My theory is that Miller so resents Nate from trying to pair him with Rudy in the 2nd unit that Miller now refuses to pass to Rudy just to spite Nate. I wish I could find a stat for flaming bag passes because the only time Miller throws to Rudy is when Miller notices the shot clock is winding down and he quickly passes to Rudy to pad his stats. He doesn’t want to drop his shooting percentage and he’s hoping to get an assist. Even though we all know he is just setting Rudy up for failure.

by tominhawaii on Feb 25, 2010 10:05 AM PST reply actions  

It’s a veritable double conspiracy. But one day the two rival prison gang leaders will unite against the evil warden!

by Norsktroll on Feb 25, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Heres hoping that it happens soon.

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by fajunga on Feb 25, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL @

“escape goat”

by Qyntel Woods on Feb 25, 2010 12:28 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

......... what?

Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.

by Starvin' Marvin on Feb 25, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Great fan post

I’m surprised that more fans don’t find Portland’s love affair with Rudy to be at least at little irrational.

The funny thing is most of the players on the blazer’s roster are the type of players that at the end of the game you’re thinking they did ok until you look at their box score and realize they did much better than you thought. Roy and Miller especially personify this trait. For example I usually don’t remember to much about Andre Miller’s game until I look at his box score and realize he had 17 points, 8 rebounds, and 9 assists.

Rudy is the one player that gets the opposite reaction. One will think that Rudy had a fantastic game until you look at the box score and realize he only had 10 points, 3 boards, and 2 assists But they were an exciting 10 points, 3 boards, and 2 assists. That’s why fans love Rudy so much, he creates excitement even when he can’t create consistently good basketball.

JRogero

by JRogero on Feb 25, 2010 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

Last night was a fluke...

Rudy is so over-rated as a player and a fan favorite. In stark contrast to Steve Blake, Rudy gets all the love but none of the criticism. I think we should trade Rudy straight up for Steve.

That’s it, I’m starting the “I Hate Rudy” fanclub to parallel TiH’s “I Hate Miller” fanclub!

We'll miss you #2 & #25!

by clinchmobb on Feb 25, 2010 3:09 PM PST reply actions  

Sweet

We should start a Facebook group. I bet someone snatched up Nate quickly.

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by tominhawaii on Feb 25, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions  

sign me up

rudy=sux

Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.

by Starvin' Marvin on Feb 25, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

His fan favoritism is far from overated

I can assure you that its all real.

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by fajunga on Feb 25, 2010 6:19 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Then those fans are overated, too...

Anybody who roots for a skinny white dude who can’t do anything but hit the three-ball occasionally is overated as a fan…why pick Rudy over Steve Blake who is also a skinny white dude who can’t do anything but hit the three-ball occasionally? Rudy just flops around and cries like a little girl when things aren’t going his way while Steve Blake squares off with anybody who touches him. Steve Blake will even throw a chair when things aren’t right.

Steve Blake > Chuck Norris!

We'll miss you #2 & #25!

by clinchmobb on Feb 26, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m an over-rated fan. My peers presented me with an 8 rating while in reality, I was closer to 5 per the PER of my per-fan fandom, qua the potential of fan. While my over-rating is really a result of my peers and their capacity or in this case incapacity to rate, I’ve accepted this blame as my own, as a result of my tastes in all things tasteless. To resolve, I’ve submitted a pic to ‘hot or not’ in hope of a true rating. I hope in all future fan endeavors to be neither over-rated nor under rated, stead, just ‘rated’, that is all.

by EvilKaramazov on Feb 26, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

you're my favorite

Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.

by Starvin' Marvin on Feb 26, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, to be just 'rated'...

as in neither ‘hot’ and neither ‘not’, is to be one with the world and live in the tranquil setting of bliss where the yin balances the yang…

We'll miss you #2 & #25!

by clinchmobb on Feb 26, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

The Steve Blake love going around

Is a result of people feeling guilty for ripping him constantly when he was here. I didn’t rip him, therefore I don’t feel nearly as bad about him leaving.

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by fajunga on Feb 26, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we should trade Rudy straight up for Steve

All I can say is…yikes! I appreciate what Blake can do and I’m certainly no Rudy-honk, but this suggestion is egregious

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by two4larue on Feb 26, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions  

'WHOOSH'

the sound of your hair parting…

We'll miss you #2 & #25!

by clinchmobb on Feb 27, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Rudy can flat out ball!

C’mon, I know Rudy has started slow after playing all summer and having surgery, but c’mon this guy is a playa!

Rudy does many things very well. He can shoot, pass, defend, and rebound better than most others his size. He has a nose for the ball, a falir for the dramatic, and is not afraid to take a big shot.

I like his passing, ball-handling and vision more than any of his other skills. I’ll never forget a play last year when he was going out of bounds, grabbed the ball, threw it behind his back to dodge the defender… and fed the fast break… unbelievable…

He can shoot, of course, the lights out, when he’s hot. And when he’s hot, he reminds me of (not that he is as good as in many other ways, but his shot reminds me of) Larry Bird. When Bird hit a three, the ball was so pure that the net would jump straight up and go above the rim, like a perfect splash on the pond… Rudy has the same shot, when he’s on…

And while Rudy is not quick enough laterally to guard opposing ones, and some faster two’s, he is an active, intelligent team defender with a nose for the ball that gets him to rebounds and other track downs that add to the team’s possessions. He is always moving, and is often in the passing lanes, and steals a ball at least once a game.

His contract is dirt cheap, and last two more years after this one, without anything being done. He is our 5th or 6th most valuable asset on the court, and he brings more value in other ways than those above him on the depth chart.

He’s not a malcontent or (even including this incident) a whiner. Not only that, but he’s a fan favorite, makes women buy merchandise, and picks ups the fans whenever he enters the game. Oh, and he’s an international super-star, too?

Teams spend decades trying to find players with that much value! Trade him?? While he has two more years on a rookie contract?? How are you going to get more value in return by trading Rudy???

by Visionary2 on Feb 25, 2010 9:25 PM PST reply actions  

BUZZKILL

Rudy will father my wife’s children, and I will LIKE IT

Holding out for Hedo

by T$ 225 on Feb 26, 2010 10:43 AM PST reply actions  

This might be the best picture I've ever seen.

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by pookeyguru on Feb 26, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

everyone can agree that a goat would just butt his head against the wall until it falls down

No goat would did a tunnel. That is just dumbness.

I get the paper, so I don't care!

by Name's Ash on Feb 26, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

especially since he is lacking

opposable thumbs

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by two4larue on Feb 26, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey now!

That is an unfair bias against ungulates.

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by Mr. Knox on Feb 28, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Would they?

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by fajunga on Feb 26, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

no fajunga

They really enjoy sitting on the bench…

by LJ. on Feb 26, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

SMH

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by fajunga on Feb 26, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

DC deserves 22 minutes a night

unlike someone else…………………………………………

Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.

by Starvin' Marvin on Feb 26, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

And rudy sucks again

Heartbroken..... Our goats have escaped.

by Starvin' Marvin on Feb 26, 2010 9:18 PM PST reply actions  

Actually he did well in setting up the offense

And I commend you for keeping consistency in your hating.

But if you really want to make the hate true, you will have to add variety to your hate! You will have to mix it up and find new ways to hate the man!

Official Adrian Wojnarowski Hater.

The Ardent Optimist.

by fajunga on Feb 27, 2010 4:32 AM PST up reply actions  

He should study TiH for a while

That man combines consistency with variety.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Feb 27, 2010 7:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I believe he is trying to emulate TiH hate

But TiH is the master and DS is just an apprentice as of right now.

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by fajunga on Feb 27, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

apprentice might be an insult to tih

"Your best?!?!! Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and &^%@ the prom queen"

Super Rodgers Bros.

#52

by cloudydays on Feb 28, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Well he isn’t Toms apprentice..

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by fajunga on Feb 28, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Your poll is broken.

It won’t let me vote for both answers.

by FlyingOutlaw on Feb 27, 2010 12:47 AM PST reply actions  

Steve Blake

Had rec center game, I’m glad he’s gone…he was not consistent, as you claim, couldn’t run a fast break and his only pleasing attribute was his 3 point shot and reasonable FT%.

Outlaw I miss…but Rudy should stay as our backup. Who cares if he complains, he sounds funny when he does it so you can laugh it off…

As far as Roy he is going to have to learn to play with a point guard and quit playing pseudo-PG if we are ever going to get past the first round. SO no, the binky is gone and thank god for that.

#52. Get well soon.

by Eat Politicians on Feb 27, 2010 2:57 PM PST reply actions  

Rudy isn't one dimentional. He just won't take risks here because he doesn't want to get pulled. He should

drive more and not just look to pass. He should take the mid range shot off the screen. He just fears Nate will pull him, and I don’t blame him. Roy is the only one allowed to make mistakes under Nate.

by BRoyInThe4th on Feb 28, 2010 3:53 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Juwan makes lots of mistakes

I think he’s averaging three moving screen fouls per game.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 1, 2010 4:35 AM PST up reply actions  

rationalization definition

rationalization – to create an excuse or more attractive explanation for

Rudy’s game is not multidimensional. He shoots 3’s and dunk’s on alley-oop’s. There’s really not many other weapons in his arsenal. Coaching is not to blame for these limitations.

JRogero

by JRogero on Mar 1, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Perfect thought here

Unless your name is Brandon or Lamarcus, if you make one false move you are riding pine

by clarkbar17 on Feb 28, 2010 6:08 PM PST reply actions  

interestingly enough...

you use the excuse that the ‘entire team causes a loss’ to exonerate blake and outlaw, then follow it up immediately by saying that rudy is a liability to the team when he isn’t hitting threes.

YOU, MY FRIEND, ARE SELF-CONTRADICTORY

If you weren't a jail blazers fan...
you aren't a trail blazers fan.

by rudy fernandez forever on Feb 28, 2010 11:37 PM PST reply actions  

Now, that is a low blow

Self-contradictory is what we do here, but the polite thing to do is look the other way. To point it out IN ALL CAPS? Serious breach of etiquette.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#10 #52 -- #5 #7 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Mar 1, 2010 4:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Have we forgotten the playoffs?

Other than Brandon Roy, who was the only other person who was lighting it up? Rudy!

by kikimonster on Mar 1, 2010 8:07 AM PST reply actions  

2 points in game 6 for #5

LMA was the only consistent scorer besides Brandon, in the Houston series

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Mar 1, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Rudy hit some amazing clutch shots in that series, especially in the game where Roy fouled out.

by stavrogin on Mar 2, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I disagree about Rudy getting a free ride- I actually think he’s been getting a lot of criticism this year all around, and getting blamed for a lot of the Blazers’ problems. The fact that he’s been playing pretty lousy the last few weeks hasn’t helped. His first two or three games back from injury, he looked great, then he looked terrible for a few weeks but he’s improved recently but is still not his old self, I’m not sure what happened, but I must say Jerryd Bayless has been no better or consistent, yet he gets groomed as some sort of future star as he clunks jumpshots, drives the lane for no reason, and refuses to distribute the ball. Yes, Rudy’s had a rough season as do many players, but he hasn’t been any better or worse than Blake, Bayless, or Webster, yet we get this constant talk of what a whiner he is, of how we should trade him, or how he’s responsible for everything that’s wrong with the Blazers. All that needs to happen is a return of his 3-pt shot and suddenly everything will be hunk-dory again. Rudy’s just the scapegoat du jour in a troubled season.

by stavrogin on Mar 2, 2010 10:05 AM PST reply actions  

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