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Alright, click through for the back and forth about Roy's hamstring, new details on the Marcus Camby trade, a positive update from Petteri Koponen, questions about Nate's new rotations and more.

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If there's one piece to read this morning, it's probably this interview with Blazers Trainer Jay Jensen conducted by Brian T. Smith.  A few of the eyebrow-raising quotes...

To the observer that's watching him practice and watches him play, they say that he looks good. If you were to ask the players, if you were to ask the coach, if you were to ask the trainers, if you were to ask anybody that watches him, they say he moves good. But he also plays like a guy that's been off, not playing for five weeks. So, for me right now, it's a matter of him getting his confidence; it's a matter of him getting his timing and rhythm down, and that's what it's about for me. Plus, the fact that he says with confidence, 'Jay, I'm ready to play.'
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I think I would say 'setbacks.' I don't think he's had any setbacks with this thing. And I think we want to keep moving forward. I don't think rest right now is the correct thing to do. We've talked to every possible person that has knowledge. We've talked to guys in football that deal with hamstring injuries all the time. We've talked to track (doctors) that deal with track athletes and their hamstrings. We've been very aggressive with our treatment of him with the (platelet-rich plasma) injection. We've exhausted with acupuncture. We've done massage. We've done rest. He's done an extensive rehab program to get his hamstring very strong. And he's passed all those tests. What you cannot test is how he feels. And that's something that Brandon has to tell you. And he'll tell me, 'I don't feel good today.' And hopefully, we'll get him over this hump. Part of it is him learning - 'learning' is not the right word - well, yeah, learning to deal with a little discomfort. Because he's a tough cookie. But when he tells you that he can play, you have to believe him. And when he says he can't play, you have to believe him. Because if you don't, you cannot believe him one time and then not believe him the next. But for me? The objective part of his evaluation, he's passed all of those.

SJ from Rip City Project counters...

Roy's hamstring looked about as good as a grizzled stripper in her 10th year in the business on a Monday afternoon.    

Geoffrey C. Arnold spoke with Roy for quite awhile after Friday's game and then wrote this weekend...

I just wonder if there is a higher power inside the team who is "pushing" or "strongly suggesting" or "kind of demanding" or  "borderline begging" that Roy play. You know, the old "take one for the team" mentality. Yes, the Blazers are in the playoff race, but is it really a smart idea to continue to have your best player possibly risk further and more long-term damage for a short-term gain of say, winning the seventh or eighth spot in the conference and probably losing to the Los Angeles Lakers, Denver Nuggets or Utah Jazz?

Brian T. Smith with quotes from Nate over the weekend about about Roy's hamstring...

On whether it's rhythm or his hamstring being the main issue:

Again, all that should come with more time on the floor. That's just like being off for the summer. And normally your (shooting) percentage is about 40, 38. And by November, December, you get it back. And he's been off for a few weeks, so sometimes you get that rhythm right away, and sometimes it takes a bit of time. It may take some games for him to get it, but he'll get it.

On whether the team is better having a less-than-100-percent Roy in the lineup so he can get his wind and find his rhythm, and if that is the main theory supporting why Roy is playing, rather than being held off the court:

We can't put a time limit on it, whether it's a week or two weeks. ... He's at a point now where he feels he can play, and that's what we're doing. We're not - if he felt he needed more time, then we would give him more time. But he feels that he can play right now, and he knows that he's got to play to (find) rhythm. Who knows what tomorrow will bring? Or next week after those five games on the road? So, we're where we're at. To say, 'Should we give him another day or another week or two?' We have to listen to Brandon and his body. And, as I said before, when he feels he can go, we're going to put him out there.

Wendell Maxey on the 15th roster spot...

"If a big man became available and maybe just wasn't playing a lot, I think we would definitely look at that. You're always looking for big bodies. There's nothing like having a 6'9 or 6'10, 260 or 265 pound body you can put out there," explained Born, knowing Portland's depth is at small forward and guard positions.

Hey, Shav, all you have to do is put on like 24-29 pounds.

Kevin Pelton writes...

In his second game in a Portland uniform, center Marcus Camby showed why the Blazers added him in a trade last week. Camby was a huge factor on the glass, finishing with 18 rebounds--including eight of Portland's 21 on the offensive glass. His ability to tap the ball back out to teammates (something he tried to do even once when he had no defender around him and had the chance to cleanly secure the ball) returned a dimension to a Blazers offense that has been short on second chances without offensive-rebounding dynamos Greg Oden and Joel Przybilla.

Likewise, Camby offered production missing without Oden and Przybilla at the defensive end, where Camby blocked four shots, mostly as a weak-side defender coming in to swipe at Boozer's shot attempts. While Camby was not quite as stout a defensive anchor in the paint in this matchup as I had anticipated, he did a better than expected job of coming out to defend Paul Millsap on the perimeter. Overall, Portland's defense was much more effective than in the last two matchups against Utah. At the same time, Camby's 1-of-7 shooting was something of a drain on the offensive end.

Dwight Jaynes dissects the late-game stagnation...

My point is, this team continues to use "We need another guy who can get his own shot in the fourth quarter" as a convenient excuse for not coaching. Man, watch the Jazz and see how often they just hand the ball to a player and ask him to beat the defense by himself. It just doesn't happen.

And watch how easy it is for the good defensive teams - like Boston and Utah in the last two games - to lock in on Portland's stagnant offense. You've got to move the ball and move bodies, which the Blazers so infrequently do, to get good shots.

My goodness, the Jazz had 50 points in the paint. It's not because they're handing it to one guy and letting him create his own shot, either. It's because they pass, cut and move the ball.

Mike Barrett looks back and ahead...

Portland is now 4-5 in the month of February, and is 11-13 in 2010. There is still time for a recovery, but time is not on their side. Of all the emotional body blows this team has taken this season, this one, self-inflicted as it was, may be the toughest to bounce back from. Monday we head out on a five-game road trip that could decide if this team makes it to the post season or not.

The trip has us at New Jersey, Toronto, Chicago, Minnesota, and Memphis. There are winnable games on this trip, but only if this team finds its offense. For whatever reason, the Blazers are in their biggest offensive funk in the last couple of years. The Blazers shot just 33 percent against Boston on Friday, and shot only 35 percent in this game.

Brian T. Smith with some follow-up details about the Camby trade...

However, it was not until a two-day period surrounding the All-Star break that Camby wearing black and red became a real possibility. And even then, there was as much uncertainty surrounding the veteran's future in Los Angeles as there was a chance he could truly become a Blazer. Camby was told either he or young Clippers center DeAndre Jordan would be in L.A. team after the break, not both.

"No one (knew) what was really going on," Camby said.

But everything changed Feb. 14, when Camby received a call from his agent wondering how he would feel about playing in Portland.

Andrew R. Tonry laments the final play that slipped away.

Down two with the final shot, Deron Williams missed a decent look from 20 feet, but Carlos Boozer grabbed the rebound-his 21st of the game-and flipped it back in just before time expired. Boozer finished with 22 points, while setting new career highs in total rebounds (23) and offensive boards (eight).

And although Marcus Camby had a mostly terrific outing in his second game as a Blazer-he finished with 18 rebounds and four blocks-that final rebound he allowed Boozer to grab as regulation ended was the nail in the coffin. Sure, there was overtime and the Blazers technically had a chance, but it was clear that the Jazz, who came out flat, were finally engaged and in control.    

Coup from Rip City Project says cut Jerryd Bayless some slack...

And finally Jerryd Bayless. I'm sure there will be some hate for him tomorrow after nine ineffective minutes when the Blazers desperately needed him. One thing to remember is that in the last couple weeks, and especially now that Blake is gone, he is essentially playing a new position at point guard than even earlier in the year, when the call was to supply as much self-induced offense as possible. And in that new position where he has to be a new sort of player, that new player has hit a rookie wall. As such, we are in standby mode with Bayless.

Casey Holdahl on Nicolas Batum...

I spoke to Batum after the game with no intention of mentioning the miss that would have sent the Trail Blazers into a five-game road trip with a win. I was more interesting in discussing Nate McMillan decision to go with Batum rather than Martell Webster through almost all of the second half, but Nico, unprovoked, brought up the miss himself.

"My last shot, I have to make this one," said Batum. "I'm wide open. I cannot miss this shot because you don't have a lot of chance like that. I remember I got one last year, I made it against Jersey. I have to score this one. If I score this one, put away ... We have the game; I just miss. I put the team in a bad situation. I feel very bad tonight."    

Hippo, our Finnish friend, writes via email...

Petteri Koponen continued his impressive performances last Sunday, when Virtus Bologna played against undefeated Montepaschi Siena in Italian Cup Final.

Virtus Bologna were able to hang with Siena for the full 40 minutes, but didn't have enough firepower in the end to upset powerhouse Siena. Siena snatched a 83-75 (38-33) victory, adding yet another trophy to their impressive track record.

For Portland Trailblazers fans, the most interesting fact concerning the game was that Petteri Koponen was the leading scorer of Virtus Bologna with 19 points. In the fourth quarter, Virtus was already down 70-55, but Koponen orchestrated a furious Virtus comeback in the final minutes draining 13 points and bringing his team to just down five, 77-72. However, Siena made their free throws in the end and Virtus couldn't get any closer.

Koponen had 19 points in the final, the most points in the game tied with Italian Cup MVP Shaun Stonerook.

The whole Italian Cup weekend was an impressive showing by Koponen. In the quarterfinal, Koponen scored 12 points in second half while ending the first-half scoring run of Pepsi Caserta's shooting guard Robert Hite. Koponen also had five assists, two steals and no turnovers in the game.

In the semifinal, Bologna easily knocked out Air Avellino 73-61 with their grinding defense. Koponen had an off-day (field goals 2-8), but he played the biggest minutes of his team (33) and had the second best +/- number of his team with +16.

Here are Koponen's averages in the Italian Cup weekend. Koponen's high AS-TO and ST-TO numbers and field goals percentages are worth noticing. (However, it might raise some questions why Koponen didn't earn one single trip to the line in three games.)

Games 3, Minutes 30,0 , Points 12,0 , Rebounds 2,7 , Assists 2,0 , Steals 2,0 Turnovers 0,7 , field goals 60,0% , 3pt field goals 50,0%

Seth Johnston of BustaBucket with a fun reference...

Once it was bonus basketball Portland couldn't overcome the mighty Ha Seung-Jin like powers of Kyrlo Fesenko (seriously) and ended up losing the stinking game after Roy's potential game tying three rimmed out. Bummers all around.    

Sophia Brugato of BustaBucket wrote regarding Friday night's loss...

Before the game started during a pre-game interview on Comcast Sports NW,  the head coach of the Boston Celtics, Doc Rivers  lavished Nate McMillan with generous praise, stating "he's been the best in the league, with all the injuries and the record they have, McMIllan has done a heck of a job".

As it turned out, it appears McMillan set out to prove Rivers wrong by not starting superior-in-every-way Nic Batum in lieu of inferior-in-every-way Martell Webster, playing the hobbled Brandon Roy for more than 30 minutes when much of the time the game was clearly out of reach, and playing Rudy Fernandez instead of Jerryd Bayless .

BlazerGuy.com writes...

What I found most discouraging tonight, however, was the way the addition of Roy and Camby seemed to affect the overall rotation.  In particular, I was bothered by the fact that Batum played only 5 minutes in the first half, Bayless played only 3, and Dante Cunningham played only 1.  Those three players provide more energy than anyone else on the team, energy that was conspicuously missing in the first half.  I'm glad the Blazers now have help at the center position now, but it is not in the short or long term interest of the team to have Camby and Howard take up all of the available front court minutes.  Dante Cunningham has been playing fantastic basketball lately and should be getting more minutes than Howard.  He's a better defender than Howard and, unlike Howard or Camby, is likely to be a part of the Blazer rotation beyond this season.     

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Outlaw back tonight

gonna blow up for dem clips

Numerically Blazers Edge is #25

by Outlaw is Rejector on Feb 22, 2010 10:44 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

YOU ARE CORRECT

sigh

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by Love on Feb 22, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Ug.

Another rough night and weekend. Reading through the stories only reminded me of that.

by PoliSam on Feb 22, 2010 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

Are Blazer practices open to the media?

 Right now I’m wanting to put all the blame on the coaching staff. I know that it’s up to the players to make their shots and definately there’s no excuse for missing rebounds on free throw misses but our offense is so one dimensional it’s not funny. All any team has to do is either shut roy down or wait until our jumpers stop falling and they know we will fall apart. Does Nate and his staff really honestly work with the players on motion offense and cutting to the basket ect.? I mean, the iso play is necessary at times but it doesn’t work well if the team is going to tighten up. Another thing, why on earth did Juwan play so many minutes over Dante? I know that Dante’s a rookie but I’m so sick of that excuse it’s not funny. He’s proven to be an inteligent player with a decent shot. I love the defense when Dante and Batum are both in the game. Ug.

by Flapbreaker on Feb 22, 2010 11:19 AM PST reply actions  

The media should ask Nate

Who calls all the ISO plays?

When Nate says the players did not get it done, who didn’t get what done?

I blame the coaches because we are running the same 4th qtr offense we were 3 seasons ago. Other teams have seemed to have scouted that out pretty well…

Stand and watch basketball, ugh

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by PDXBuckeye on Feb 22, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Bad link to Jensen article?

Ben, the link you have for the interview with Jay Jensen appears to be directed to an interview with Nate you highlighted later.

I think this is the correct link: http://www.columbian.com/weblogs/blazerbanter/2010/feb/21/interview-blazers-trainer-jensen-discusses-roys-ha/

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by DC Blazer on Feb 22, 2010 11:44 AM PST reply actions  

I also agree with Dwight Jaynes and you don't need to be shot for it - neither do I.

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by LaMarvelous on Feb 22, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

me too

ISOs are needed in the NBA, but it ain’t the only thing…

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by PDXBuckeye on Feb 22, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

someone needs to tell Dwight

Jerry Sloan and Jack Ramsay aren’t coming through the locker room door to coach the Blazers

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Feb 22, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

THIS

My point is, this team continues to use “We need another guy who can get his own shot in the fourth quarter” as a convenient excuse for not coaching. Man, watch the Jazz and see how often they just hand the ball to a player and ask him to beat the defense by himself. It just doesn’t happen.

And watch how easy it is for the good defensive teams – like Boston and Utah in the last two games – to lock in on Portland’s stagnant offense. You’ve got to move the ball and move bodies, which the Blazers so infrequently do, to get good shots.

My goodness, the Jazz had 50 points in the paint. It’s not because they’re handing it to one guy and letting him create his own shot, either. It’s because they pass, cut and move the ball.
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by RipCitySam on Feb 22, 2010 12:21 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Rec-amundo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The PENDERBEAST is on the Prowl Looking for an Opposing 4 or 5 to DEVOUR!!!!!!!!!!

by LaMarvelous on Feb 22, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

amen

basic basketball…

Move the ball, inside-out first, around the perimeter and back in, take open shot when available…

People need to be moving without the ball…

Pitch the ball in, perimeter rotates, but pitch out man or cutter should be available if double comes…

This standing around, dribbling the ball for 15 seconds and then trying to beat 3 guys while everyone else is just waiting for you to do something is terrible basketball…this isn’t ust on Roy either, this is about almost all of the blazer 4th qtr sets, Miller does it too, JBay as well, Blake did the dribble for 15 second thing followed by an FBP…This offense is not different from what we have run in the 4th Qtr for much of the past 3 seasons, somebody has got to wake up. The Blazers know how to run offense, see first 65% of the game last night. Why you would stop doing those things is beyond me…

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by PDXBuckeye on Feb 22, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd say it's on Nate not Roy (I agree)

It would be on Roy if everyone was moving, trying to get open and he stood there just watching then tried to drive and score, but seriously everyone just stands there while the clock burns then drive and get fouled, drive and dish, drive and score, drive and turn it over, except for miller who keeps missing open 3’s and long jumpers….hey ‘dre, there is a reason you’re open…. Do what you do dammit!

by BanDenjamin on Feb 22, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Jaynes is completely right....

Nate is showing his strengths and weaknesses this season:

His strengths: Nate has done a fine job juggling this oft-injured team. He is excellent at motivating young players, and he gets his team to play hard. And I guess, if you trust the USA Basketball opinions, he’s a good defensive coach. Maybe…

His weaknesses? I don’t have enough time… But I do know this: Nate must go… soon! Before our youth and athlticism are wasted!

This team, when healthy can and should be a devastating fast breaking team. They have all of the elements they need, except a coach who has a clue about how to instruct the break. Loved seeing Camby lead the break last night!

Nate’s offense is pathetic. Boring. Ugly. Based on iso’s and jump shots. Compare it to the Celtics or Jazz: every play, there are multiple players moving, multiple picks, and multiple passes. If you can’t contrast that with the Blazers plodding, predictive, horrible offense, then you don’t know how to watch the NBA…

His substitution pattern is ridiculous. You shouldn’t sub based on the clock. What other coach does that? You sub based on who is hot, who is not, what is working, and what you have to stop. Nate, in fact, seems to work in opposition to any sane coaching strategy, as he continually takes out the player with the hot hand… How does that make any sense at all??

Nate destroyed Miller’s integration with the team by starting the obviously inferior Blake, and kowtowing to BRoy, to make him ‘comfortable’. What kind of BS is that? Nate should have told Roy to grow up, and learn how to move off a pick, and hit a catch and shoot J. Superstar? Not in my book… not if he can’t learn something new…

And for godsakes Nate, EVERY TEAM knows what we’re going to run in the 4th when it’s close – and it NO LONGER WORKS, Nate! Why are we still “doing the Portland” as Batum so aptly stated last summer?

Nate has got to go. And soon. Before our championship window closes.

Please KP, take off your loyalty blinders and make an honest appraisal of our deficiencies. You’ve got to fire Nate. Soon.

by Visionary2 on Feb 22, 2010 12:25 PM PST reply actions   3 recs

Major Mass Quantities of Rec-alisiousness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by LaMarvelous on Feb 22, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

D you think missing the playoffs after the Camby trade

would change the “free pass due to injury” policy regarding Nate’s job security? I hope it would at least give KP pause. I also hope we aren’t in that situation

by momomoses7 on Feb 22, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't imagine where Nate devised this horrible horrible offense, it certainly wasn't during his time with Team USA

I bet behind closed doors other coaches around the league laugh their backsides off at it, while trying to keep a secret their mockery so Nate won’t change anything.

I keep hearing how ’it’s tailored to this team’

No it’s not. The best offense for a young team with length is to cut, cut, cut, attack, attack, attack. Granted some of those types of offenses requires actually touching someone when you set a pick so that would be tough for this roster.

by Theghostofsomeonefamous on Feb 22, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Totally agree

I also get really made sometimes beacuse to me it feels like we have a ton of players who were destined to shoot jumpers. Basketball can be a binary game in the context of “Dribble past your man, get to the middle.” This is where the majority of good things happen in an offense and I mean absolutely to piggy back off of cutting, attacking the rim, and all your good points. Because they’re true.

How many of our players can get past their man and make the right decision?

Bayless – Can’t pass, can’t consistently shoot, faces sagged defenses daring him.
Miller – uh, slow feet are not a job benefit here. sometimes i wonder how he gets it across half court.
Roy – not on one leg, but when healthy yes. without roy last year doing his thing, blake doesn’t have a career year.
Webster – Can’t dribble. Can’t pass. Still learning? Who knows.
Batum – I think theres hope here for him. But right now? probably not.
Rudy – who killed Rudy this year? for godsakes I wanted travis out there more than him.

Just combine all that business with big men (loose term) who don’t cut and yes, we have a terrible and predicitable offense.

by Haymon45 on Feb 22, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

yawn

someone wake me when Paul Allen gets tired of Nate’s performance and replaces him

Until then? Jaynes and Bedgers complaining about how lousy a job McMillian is doing as head coach just doesn’t hit the spot

I mean…I could agree with y’all…but what would that accomplish, exactly?

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Feb 22, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

What, you don't think...

public opinion matters? Then why don’t we still have Jail Blazers?

C;mon, you know that when Mr. Allen meets with Larry Miller and KP, one of the items of discussion is “what are the fans saying”… And these days, why do expensive marketing to find out when you can have somebody read the blogs and make a spreadsheet with players (and coaches) names on the rows, and to across the top, and start adding things up…

What could agreeing that Nate should go accomplish?

Well, if a lot of us agree, and make our opinion known, that might make more people stand up and take notice, and form what some call a band wagon, and public opinion may swell and cries of boo Nate serenade Mr Allen and KP at the games, until…. maybe something changes…

by Visionary2 on Feb 25, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope Bayless spends all offseason

Learning how to shoot a floater. Going into shot blockers’ chests hurts more than it’s effective. Also watch lots of Andre Miller tape to see how to draw fouls when overwhelmed in the paint.

by momomoses7 on Feb 22, 2010 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

Or stop on a dime

and pull up for a short jumper.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#7 #10 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Feb 23, 2010 5:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Why is it necessary to belittle Martell when trying to make the case that Batum should start?????????

Batum starting stands on it’s own merit and Martell’s abilities stand on their own merits. They are both very capable SFs and since it is not smart to play 1 of them the whole game, how about the other one simply plays backup? Martell has never made a big fuss about playing the backup role and neither has batum. So I say let them share the miutes and “Let It Be”!!!!!!!

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by LaMarvelous on Feb 22, 2010 12:39 PM PST reply actions  

if Marty only plays 14 mpg and Nic plays 30+

then I’m not so worried about which guy is starting. Portland was playing pretty well at the beginning of each half against the Jazz. The problem I have is that when Webster came out, Rudy came in before Batum…what is up with that?

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by two4larue on Feb 22, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

That's funny

That’s just what Blazers fans do. I wish Bayless would play better so that I could hate Miller for starting in front of him. I already have plenty of reasons, I just want more.

by tominhawaii on Feb 22, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah

I’m enjoying the peace and quiet before my bandwagon fills up in the playoffs.

I am hands down the greatest Blazers fan on Blazersedge.

by tominhawaii on Feb 26, 2010 1:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Not being critical;

IMO, Websters and Batum’s biggest problem isn’t playing time, but lack of involvement in the game. Whether by design or not, they are basically used for just the three point shooter when we need to kick it out. There is very seldom and plays called for them to help in the stagnate offense, they get very few touches, and yet they are expected to knock down the 3 when and if they are asked. Being in the game is very little different then being on the bench. either way you are ice cold. Oh, but you are expected to play lock down D with no rewards. That is good on paper, but most players has a built in reward system.

hg

by BBK on Feb 23, 2010 5:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Nate was ok when this team was bad, I think his people skills are decent

Which was all that was needed to get a lottery team to playoff contention

But to take the next leap requires imagination, personality, and a very good knowledge of X’s and O’s all of which Nate lacks compared every other coach of a good team with the exception of maybe Mike Brown.

Granted maybe there aren’t a whole lot of worthy alternatives out there – though there are some! – but I think even the most die-hard Nate defender has questions after this recent stretch.

by Theghostofsomeonefamous on Feb 22, 2010 12:43 PM PST reply actions  

you a fan of Ball Don't Lie?

I drop in on their Wednesday chats with regularity. Someone on there rocks theGhostofDavidStern.

That’s funny.

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by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Feb 22, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

maybe there aren’t a whole lot of worthy alternatives out there – though there are some!

I’m not sure why Tom Thibodeau hasn’t gotten a NBA head coaching gig yet, but I wouldn’t mind if Paul Allen assigned some of his Vulcan resources to find out…once the season is over and it’s not considered “tampering” of course

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by two4larue on Feb 22, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Who gets to ask questions after the game?

Because the list they asked after last night’s debacle were a debacle in and of themselves.

How did roy feel? Camby looked alright tonite, eh? what rubbish.

How about, why do we run essentially the same play for the entire 4th qtr each and every game?

Do you call the ISOs, are they called by the players? Who is it that lacks the understanding that doing the same thing we did for the last 3 years just is not cutting it anymore?

Is there a particularly good reason the team stopped running the same offense they were in to build up the 25 point lead? If so, please explain?

Boston game:
Why did you not play your leading scorer for much of the 4th qtr or 2nd half for that matter?
How could the team be so unprepared to play? After playing only 1 game in 10 days?

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by PDXBuckeye on Feb 22, 2010 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

You are so very right - the questions that get asked don't even qualify as soft balls.

But if you were to ask the interviewer why they throw mush balls I am fairly certain that it is because they don’t want to be ignored the next time they want to ask a question.

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by LaMarvelous on Feb 22, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Boy, SBrugato...
by not starting superior-in-every-way Nic Batum in lieu of inferior-in-every-way Martell Webster

I mean, wow. I ♥ nic too, but I think this is going overboard. Especially since Marty has dropped some real gems of late.

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by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Feb 22, 2010 2:55 PM PST reply actions   3 recs

Going overboard? Sophia? Really?

As Mike Rice would say, “She can do that.”

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Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
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by jscot on Feb 23, 2010 5:04 AM PST up reply actions  

With a vengence.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Feb 23, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

that final rebound he [Camby] allowed Boozer to grab as regulation ended was the nail in the coffin

You try to grab a rebound when someone has pushed you in the back so hard that you’re doubled over

Like I wrote earlier, if the refs are going to allow that contact (and they always swallow their whistles with 2 seconds to play so there’s no sense whining about it) then the only solution is to match size with size. Camby, Howard and LMA are tall and (relatively) slender, so they can be moved around easily by stronger players like Boozer. Everyone wants to blame Portland’s big men for the offensive rebounds they gave up on missed FTs. Watch the replays…they were constantly getting pushed under the basket or “thrown aside” by Boozer and Fesenko

Strength > length, when push comes to shove

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by two4larue on Feb 22, 2010 4:09 PM PST reply actions   3 recs

Precisely

They should have called that foul, but they won’t.

The FTs, though, we didn’t put a body into them on the box out. If we had, we might well have had some calls on those.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#7 #10 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Feb 23, 2010 5:06 AM PST up reply actions  

LMA did "put a body" on Boozer

and Carlos went through him to get the ball

it’s on tape (or DVR)

and Fesenko threw somebody (Camby, Howard?) out of the way to get another missed FT rebound

It’s not about the refs, it’s about having playoff-hardened roster. When Sloan fell behind, he sent in his big men and uglied up the game. Nate had no counter because his frountcourt is skinny (and Pendergraph is green)

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by two4larue on Feb 23, 2010 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I pretty much agree with all of this ...

… and think you have made an excellent observation.

Sloan “uglied up” (love that term) the game and Nate didn’t have a way to counter. That’s not a sign that McMillan can’t coach, but one of not having the right personnel. Yet we see all of the Nate bashing by others up above. I don’t happen to think Nate is beyond criticism, but most of what we see is pure garbage in my opinion.

In this instance, Portland still has a good chance to beat Utah even against Sloan’s strategy. But they failed to execute. And not just once or twice. It may be valid to question whether McMillan might have come up with a better offensive strategy, but in the end, what good is changing strategy when guys are failing to make plays?

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Feb 23, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Golliver and Pelton made a couple of good points on their podcast

LMA was in foul trouble down the stretch, and that took him off the floor during much of Utah’s comeback. This not only meant that a tired Juwan Howard had to be rushed back into the game (to get abused by Boozer/Fesenko) but it also limited Nate’s options on offense. Without LMA, there was no Blazer scorer who could force the Jazz to double-team, because Miller/Roy were ineffective/gimpy.

Ben/Kevin also speculated that since McMillain holds coach Sloan in such a high regard, Nate tends to “tense up” when facing Jerry, like a young player does when he faces a star that he’s grown up watching for the first time. (You’d think that Nate’s faced Jerry’s teams enough to be “past” this feeling, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Sloan is “in McMillian’s head” more than a little bit.) My suspicion is that Jerry figured he had nothing to lose (down by 25) the Blazers were on such a roll that he might as well throw a big lineup and a zone defense at them and see if that stuck to the wall.

As it turned out, it was the perfect strategy. We can only hope that Portland’s coaching staff learned from this, and they’ll be able to adjust to it in the future—or even use the same tactic on other teams to dig out from similar deficits (of course, having Oden/Przy back in the lineup will make a huge diference…)

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by two4larue on Feb 23, 2010 11:48 PM PST up reply actions  

That quote from Batum?

Where the 21 year old lays the game on his shoulders and says, “my bad. I should have hit that and we win.” See that, Coach “Sarge?” That’s maturity. That’s taking responsibility.

And you know what? the shot was 90% down. he made a nice stroke on that and got unlucky. But that’s an example of someone taking responsibility.

Maybe McMillan can learn from young Mr. Batum.

by sagcat on Feb 22, 2010 4:30 PM PST reply actions  

I've never had a problem with Nate McMillan

I love his character and professionalism. I don’t want to see him leave now or in the near future. But he’ll have to keep evolving as an offensive mind for my tastes.

Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.

by Net Ranger on Feb 22, 2010 4:39 PM PST reply actions  

Quotes from BT Smith's article on the Camby trade
"Eventually you’re going to have to use some of those players to get someone like Miller, Howard or Camby," McMillan said. "You’ve got to give up a guy or two to do that."

Yes, indeed. The reason to acquire “too much talent” is for the GM to have the ability to use a couple of the “extra” players to go and get a piece that the team needs

"We put so much emphasis on who we bring in, that any deal you do, you don’t want to just lose him," Pritchard said. "Because we know (who) they are. We’ve done our homework."

KP makes it sound like Camby’s going to get a decent FA offer this July, so all of that preliminary work on the deal doesn’t go “poof” when the final horn sounds on this season

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by two4larue on Feb 22, 2010 4:47 PM PST reply actions  

Seriously

It’s like with every passing injury or occurence there’s less media coverage on him or stuff like this. I want some info or video of what the heck he’s doing and how he’s doing.

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by ECFIVESTER on Feb 23, 2010 5:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Blake had 7 assist in 16 minutes
Averaging 9 assists per game in his three with the "inferior" Clips. Travis had 10 points in his 16 minute debut.

by BrewDude on Feb 22, 2010 10:25 PM PST reply actions  

good for them

they’re Clippers now, at least until mid-April

move on

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by two4larue on Feb 23, 2010 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Move on?

If we can get posts about Durant or Blair since we didn’t draft them, we can certainly continue to follow long-term Blazers.

Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#7 #10 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!

by jscot on Feb 23, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

follow them all you want

for all the good it will do re: the fortunes of the 2010 Blazers in the next 25+ games

I’d rather wait and discuss the ramifications of the Camby deal after the post season

but what Blake and Outlaw are doing in LA is no more as relative to the PTB than what Channing Frye is doing in Phoenix or what Sergio is going to do in NY

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by two4larue on Feb 23, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

RE: Blog format

Ben – Thanks for the Page 2 idea (is there a better name?).
Related:
One thing on my wish list is a sidebar link to a list of commentary / analysis type podcasts (audio, could be video I suppose) that either you or Dave are involved in (or others if they are of that ilk). Right now if I’ve missed a couple of days I need to search back for a ways – off the homepage sometimes – and that is only if I remember to do it. A link with a list of the somewhat recent podcasts would make it much easier to check in on and see if there is anything recent.
Despite the Blazers’ game being spotty lately your game is on – keep up the great work!

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Feb 24, 2010 2:56 AM PST reply actions  

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