Media Row Report: Blazers 109, Clippers 87
It's been a long day. In lieu of a full report tonight, please enjoy a final wrap on the Marcus Camby trade, a few random game notes and a transcript of Nate McMillan's post-game comments.
For a full recap of the Portland Trail Blazers 109-87 cruise control victory over the underCambied Los Angeles Clippers, check out Dave's excellent post.
The big news from tonight's game: Brandon Roy's disappointed and disappointing self-diagnosis. For a full transcript of Roy's post-game comments, in which he wonders aloud whether he might miss the rest of the season, click here.
Marcus Camby
Before the game, Kevin Pritchard helped introduce Marcus Camby to the media. Camby stood at Nate McMillan's podium, taking questions about the Blazers, his family and his defensive abilities. Camby was in an upbeat, easy-going mood. Another no-nonsense veteran professional cut in the mold of Andre Miller and Juwan Howard. Here's a first look at Marcus Camby the Portland Trail Blazer.
Here's a shot of Kevin Pritchard standing in front of the word "courage." (This is my way of subtly reinforcing good, bold decisions. Let's build on this.)
By the end of the mini-presser, KP looked drained. What a day it was for the media covering the team. One can only imagine the ups and downs for KP and his inner circle. Less than an hour before tip, Pritchard, Chad Buchanan and Mike Born gathered at midcourt and, with a few minutes to themselves, flashed some pretty wide smiles. Can you blame them?
You likely heard the Rose Garden crowd's overwhelmingly positive reception for Camby through the television broadcast. Camby received a huge ovation when he was shown on the Rose Garden big screen and many fans stood up to welcome him to Portland. No question about it: from courtside to the upper deck, the Rose Garden's bounce was back. As the Blazers slammed the door in the fourth quarter, the building was rocking hard.
It's not often that it works out this way but all of the behind-the-scenes chatter regarding the Camby trade was as positive as the crowd reaction. By the end of the night, I had had probably 15-20 conversations with various people -- team employees, season ticket holders, Rose Garden employees, other media members, a random fan -- and not a single person faulted KP for trading Outlaw and Blake for Camby. Only the Brandon Roy extension signing press conference had the same air of consensus approval. By comparison, a lot more questions and eyebrows were being raised when Andre Miller's signing was announced.
Certainly there were those who were extremely sad to see both Blake and Outlaw go. "I saw Travis the first day he came to Portland. It's like losing a son," one observer noted, before going on to admit that renting Camby for the stretch run seems like a smart play. He wasn't alone in contemplating the outgoing Blazers. One sign in the Rose Garden read, "Steve and Travis: Trail Blazers For Life."
Others were excited, bordering on elated. "I wasn't sure KP still had it in him," said a prominent observer, shaking his head happily as he broke down potential playoff match-ups. "Marcus Camby? [Expletive] Yes!," concluded one fan during halftime.
Lastly a media member argued, "Nate wanted to start Blake and have Outlaw as the 6th man. KP brought in Miller, constantly gushes about Bayless and seems infatuated with both Batum and Cunningham. Should we conclude that if you can't make the correct decisions, others will make them for you?" To be fair, McMillan did suggest earlier this season that he could use some help in the post and likely understood the implications of that request.
Random Game Notes
- It didn't take long: LaMarcus Aldridge has already taken up station in Travis Outlaw's corner locker. Corner lockers are prized possessions because they offer extra empty space on one side for added comfort. Dante Cunningham's locker is adjacent to Aldridge's new locker. Cunningham had enjoyed even more extra space in Outlaw's absence. Now? Better get used to being squashed by the reporter mob, rook.
- I happened to come face to face with the Reverend Jesse Jackson tonight. Jackson was in town doing what he does. He doesn't have the same star power he once did and he certainly didn't capture the press room's attention like you might expect. He was rolling with Jerome Kersey post-game. "Do you think he's doing Talkin' Ball tonight?" someone joked. OK, it was me. But I wasn't one of the fans who booed him when he was shown on the big screen. That seemed totally unnecessary.
- Super Bowl Hero Tracy Porter of the New Orleans Saints sat courtside tonight as a guest of Blazers President Larry Miller. A young female admirer had Porter sign her pink cell phone. Right on the case with a Sharpie. I have never seen that before. Porter caused quite a halftime stir and acted like he was genuinely surprised by all the attention. Porter > Daniel Baldwin, and it's not close.
- Major props to Eric Gordon for not giving up completely on his team's offense and taking 25 shots tonight. If I was in his position, I can't say I would show the same restraint. Given how hot he was (7-12 for 20 points), perhaps he showed too much restraint.
- Baron Davis's control of the basketball was like a planet that doesn't have full gravitational pull over one of its moons. Sometimes it would remain in the correct orbit as he dribbled and other times it would shoot off into space. 5 turnovers for Davis. Could have been 25.
- It never ceases to amaze me that players like DeAndre Jordan are able to make the NBA without someone fixing their horrible herky jerky shot releases. His uncontested jumper pre-game warm-up routine was rated R for violence. The ball should not change direction four times in the palm of your hand during your release. Hire a shooting coach and start from scratch. His dunking form, however, needs no work.
- Jerryd Bayless sneaked a glance at Brandon Roy as he told reporters that he was worried that he might be done for the season if his hamstring doesn't improve. The look on Bayless's face was one of surprise and seemed to border on "WTF, for real?" The whole episode was news to everyone, I guess.
Nate McMillan's Post Game Comments
After a long day, did it feel good to get a win?
Yeah, I thought it was good. It was a good game coming off a break. Executing defensively as well as offensively. It's always nice to see these guys knock down shots. But coming off of a break like that you try to get your legs, get your timing. I thought our guys did a nice job.
Decision to play Brandon and his situation
I talked to him before the game. I thought he was just a little, he needed a little push as far as getting out there. He was more concerned about conditioning than about his leg. We talked about managing his minutes. He decided to go. Once he went he thought he felt it a little bit so we decided to pull him at the half and go with Rudy in the starting lineup.
He's questionable for Friday?
We've got days to give him some time. And we'll do that.
Do you regret giving him that little nudge?
No, he didn't pull it, he just felt it. He felt it before.
Martell is starting to gain some consistency
The shooting has been great. And we need that. We are going to need him to continue to shoot the ball like that. Defensively, he's working to improve in that area. A lot of times he's drawing that assignment of the best offensive wing. That's an area where he's given the effort and working at that. He gets that, he is definitely going to help us. He's a good rebounder, his stroke has been there for most of the year. That's a big weapon on the floor. When you have guys double teaming LaMarcus with Brandon out.
Does the trade affect this team?
They can't control that. You can't control it. We've talked about that over the years. Things happen. As I told the team today, we talked about this opening night. That we were somewhat lucky to have a number of players, talented players that we had in that locker room to start the season off with. It's going to be very difficult with contracts and salaries to keep this type of group together. It's just really difficult to do that. We probably have one year to do it. I was hoping we could take advantage of that. Unfortunately we didn't have that opportunity because of injuries. Then it comes down to making business decisions, the organization. They had to make decisions based on where we were. It was a good move. We needed a center. We lost both of ours, to give ourselves a chance to stay in this race we needed a big. We got what we feel is a pretty good big.
They beat you on the boards, did it show how much you need Camby?
We won pretty much everything else except the boards. I thought at times they got to the basket fairly easily. Yeah, we do need [Camby]. What he brings to the floor we are missing. A guy that will rotate and defend the basket as well as rebound and block shots. We need that. We've been trying to get that from Greg and Joel and at times we did. But that's his strength. I'm looking forward to getting him out there.
This team was refreshed from the break?
Yeah, well again normally you're a little rusty coming back after that many days off. Only 9 turnovers tonight. We did a good job taking care of the ball. We did a good job of moving the ball. We shot the three ball good tonight.
All the Steals
Well just we tried to play the passing lanes. We tried to deny Kaman touches, mix up our defense. I thought these guys tonight forced some steals and I thought at times they tried to play in traffic and throw in traffic and we were able to come up with some steals.
Defense on Kaman
We wanted to front him. I thought Dante did a nice job of just making him work. Denying him the ball. We wanted to double team him from the baseline and not from the top like we did last game. He picked us apart, if he caught it from the top, then we were going to just mix up our defense and make him score over the top.
-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter
80 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
1 down
26 to go.
A positive attitude will not solve all of your problems but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort - Herm Albright
Official Adrian Wojnarowski hater.
Keep the faith.
He looks happy enough to be here

"We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning." - E. E. Cummings
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Feb 17, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
Beat the celts! Beat the celts! Too early? Looking forward to camby playing!
by Rockys' on Feb 17, 2010 2:38 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Brandon's learning something about using the media to lower expectations
What better way to deflect attention than throw the worst case scenario out there?
That media member quote is pretty telling
It just goes to show that they may have more information that us but certainly not any more insight. The person sounds pretty ignorant.
If hatin' Miller is wrong, I don't want to be right - Andre Miller Sucks Forum - Trade Andre Miller Now
by tominhawaii on Feb 17, 2010 4:58 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Umm.
(This is my way of subtly reinforcing good, bold decisions. Let’s build on this.)
Is it subtle if you announce your intentions right after posting the pic?
Just saying ;)
It wasn't the first time I'd been kicked in the cherries and called a rat by a woman, but it was the first time I didn't mind.
Looking at the quote below ...
…"Lastly a media member argued, “Nate wanted to start Blake and have Outlaw as the 6th man. KP brought in Miller, constantly gushes about Bayless and seems infatuated with both Batum and Cunningham. Should we conclude that if you can’t make the correct decisions, others will make them for you?” ….
and catching a bit of Talking Ball after the game, I’m struck by how much garbarge passes as supposedly intelligent analysis and commentary.
Take the quote Ben gives us. The person speaks as if in a position of being Nate’s confidant. Yet to me he sounds full of it. I’m willing to bet that Nate’s thoughts on the subject were far closer to his wanting to run two units, with each being best suited to play with one another. That is not quite the same thing as saying he was determined to start Blake no matter what.
And on Talking Ball I couldn’t help listening to the media types, (Jaynes, Furness and that Dana guy) and notice how most of what came out of their mouths was the same tired, oft repeated phrases we see over and over from the media. As in somebody puts out an opinion and then others pick up on it and after it gets repeated over and over, it eventually takes on the patina of being factual. Of course it isn’t just sports we see this. I believe considerably more than half of what we hear on any subject is bs being passed on as fact through constant repetition.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
by timg56 on Feb 17, 2010 6:17 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
The media
frankly I’ve given up on it.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez
Also
that quote stood out as poor taste to me. It’s like the snide little comments you make behind someones back by gossipy spinsters that sit around all day talking but have no idea what’s involved with the doing. It’s also extremely comes across as extremely hateful.
I could have lived without that in the report.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
"I told Pau the Lakers never win here in Portland; I think it's great." -- Rudy Fernandez
Actually, it seems pretty on the mark...
Nate is…………. shall we say loyal? …………………. to a fault. Blake and Outlaw were his guys when things were turning from crappy to pretty okay, and he has been seemingly slow adapting to new conditions, making the leap from pretty okay to championship contender.
It’s guys like Bayless and Batum — whether they are able to step up or not — that will be determinative in taking the next step.
KP cut the cord, put the binky away, whatever patronizing metaphor suits you…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Nate's job was to win
Playing Outlaw and Blake had nothing to do with those ridiculous metaphors. People came up with those because they were fans of the players who got benched in place of those two.
by tominhawaii on Feb 17, 2010 8:39 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Some people are happy with the car they drive. I drive a '96 Nissan pickup. It suits me...
But I’m not racing the sucker. If you wanna race trucks, that one ain’t gonna cut it.
Blake is a fully functional backup PG and has big-boy level spot up shooting skills. But running with the big dogs implies being able to really BRING IT in the paint. That’s Bayless. Is he the answer? I’m not smart enough to know that. But I’m also smart enough to know that Blake isn’t it.
As for Outlaw, an entertaining package of supernatural physical skills with uncorrectable rawness on the court. He’s not a PF, never was and never will be, he’s a wing who thrives on isolation fadeaways. I reckon when a late game situation calls for an isolation fadeaway, he’s a guy that can get his shot against anybody. But I’ll roll the dice on the cheaper, better Cunningham at the small ball 4 or on the sky-is-the-limit Nic Batum at the 3 any day of the week.
Blake and Outlaw were the expirings that weren’t gonna be re-upped. Blazers needed a rent-a-goalie. KP did what he needed to do, despite Nate’s ongoing…………………. loyalties.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
by timbo on Feb 17, 2010 8:48 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I have no problem with the trade either.
But I think you are off base in your evaluations both of the two players and of Nate’s motivation for playing them.
I believe that success in the NBA is perhaps attributable to the ability to execute consistently more than anything else. And between Blake and Bayless, there really isn’t much of a debate. Steve may never come within a country mile of Jerryd’s ability to drive to the rim. But when you look at the ability to execute all of the tasks expected of a PG on a consistent basis, Blake does a better job. This is not to say that Jerryd won’t improve, nor any comment on whether Bayless needs more playing time to make the improvement and wasn’t getting it due to Blake’s presence on the roster. All that may be true. But no more so than the fact that Steve Blake was the more consistent PG when it came to executing both the offensive and defensive sets.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
That might be the inherent conflict between a coach and a general manager. Nate is incentivized to win as much as possible now with who is available to him. Surely he is also involved in planning for the future, but what will get him new contracts or get him fired is current performance. He is very good at maximizing that, and will use whoever gets him wins. If that is a veteran who will break down before the 2006-2008 picks reach their prime, so be it.
Pritchard and his front office are in a slightly different boat. While they have to make sure Nate has the players he needs, they also need to look into the future and ask themselves how the team is supposed to look like in 2-3 years, what they value in young players, and so on.
Since we currently don’t have a completely clear-cut hacking order from big stars to scrubs, everything behind Roy and LaMarcus is in flow. So it’s in Nate’s interest as timbo wrote to play the people who have given him success in the past, while it is in KP’s interest to (also) develop players who are supposed to be the future of the team. Aligning both of those incentives is not that easy.
Now KP has addressed one of Nate’s immediate needs, requesting more (maybe temporary) help for the frontcourt, while at the same time taking away two of his reliable fallback options at other positions. That will either work really well with young players filling that void and even adding additional capabilities, or at least the team will know that they still don’t have the right pieces in place on the wing and in the backcourt. So I welcome this development.
Interesting conclusions in your last paragraph...
I hadn’t thought of it that way but you are right that by taking away Nate’s alleged securities (Blake and Outlaw), KP has forced the hand. Maybe KP is more comfortable with the young players than Nate is (in terms of performance/wins) OR he is just moving the evaluation process along a little faster. Either way, I am pretty sure both were involved in the personnel decision to trade Blake/Outlaw and get Camby. Had it not happened, Nate would have continued to use them over the younger guys becaused he is trying to generate wins and his strategy revolves around low-risk and consistent play…
We'll miss you #2 & #25!
I have a hard time thinking this was any grand plan regarding Nate's preferences
Trout and Blake were the only guys that made sense in a trade because of their contract status….no other reason. If we wanted a Big….these were the guys that had to be traded.
Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’
by 92wastheyear on Feb 17, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
If we wanted Marcus Camby...these were the guys who had to be traded...
otherwise, it is dependent on who you are trading with and who for. Had we been looking at another big, that team may have wanted some totally different combination of players (Wizards allegedly wanted Batum or Rudy in the mix for Haywood). It just so happens, that these were the two who worked best for the Blazers and the Clippers. Nate is certainly involved in those discussions and his preferences very likely have weight…
We'll miss you #2 & #25!
I don't know how much Rudy or Nic make
but I don’t believe it is as much as Steve and Trav…..which means if you add Rudy or Nic …we would have still had to add Steve and/or Trav to those deals in all likelihood and then the price becomes exorbitant
Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’
by 92wastheyear on Feb 17, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions
Not necessarily...
we certainly could have traded away other assets if someone wanted them (namely Webster and Miller who both have contracts outside of the relatively low-paying rookie contracts that half our team is in) and landed a different big and had salaries match. Don’t forget the cash considerations that were made to land Camby ($1.5 million or so) and the fact that Allen has the money and willingness to make up any salary difference with cash…
We'll miss you #2 & #25!
While I love Travis
Dante has already surpassed him defensively (not to mention with regard to rebounding) playing the 3 and small-ball 4. From what I’ve seen, in a year or two we’ll be seeing 15+ PPG from young Mr. Cunningham provided he gets minutes.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
by DonkeyShins on Feb 17, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions
Add BB IQ and we are lockstep in agreement
Dante has similar defensive skill sets to Batum and Webster
by Hermistonmelons on Feb 17, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Well said...
There is no doubt in my mind that Nate prefers consistency in his gameplan. There is less risk involved on whether a player is going to ‘go off’ or not. Nate was ‘loyal’ to Blake and Outlaw because he knew what he was getting each and every night and not out of loyalty to them as players. He has never come across as someone who plays favorites.
We'll miss you #2 & #25!
timg56 is right...
…success in the NBA is more about efficiency than anything else.
This is why guys like Baron Davis, for all his talent (diminishing at this stage), have never “gotten it”. Baron is a knuckle head who does stupid shit nearly every other trip down the court, jacks up 3s even though he doesn’t shoot a high percentage, and is ultimately uncoachable. Oh, but he’s “ultra quick” and can “dunk” (or at least used to be when younger). This is an extreme example, but it effectively points out the problem with having a knuckle head run your offense. The PG position especially is all about what you have from the neck up. You can be the worst athlete on the team, but have the most impact on the game. Blake wasn’t flashy. His stats didn’t jump out at you. He didn’t throw down on big guys. His PER isn’t particularly impressive. But, he is SOLID and EFFICIENT. His presence in the game more often than not got the Blazers into the sets that they needed to be in. As much as I love Bayless and his talent driving to the hole, when he runs the offense it’s helter skelter out there and things grind to a halt or result in a bad shot or turnover far more often. Andre Miller runs the offense differently than Blake, getting more of his own offense by far, and he is effective and efficient as well. But Blake did a lot of what this team needed to be effective in the system that McM likes to run. Without Blake here, the offense will have to change with his absence.
As for Outlaw, he’s a borderline knuckle head that could be counted on to do something boneheaded about as often as hitting a big shot.
I’m more sorry to see Blake go than Outlaw.
In the past Outlaw has played pretty up and down...
we were seeing pretty good performance out of him this year until his injury…Regardless, Cunningham has shown the most consistency we have seen out of any rookie in a long time which made Outlaw that much more expendable. Totally agree with you about Blake…
We'll miss you #2 & #25!
Watch the language, please
You don’t want Dave or Ben or one of the mods to delete your otherwise well-reasoned post.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
by DonkeyShins on Feb 17, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
That is why big game days are tiring.
I get all excited about a certain game as the Super-bowl and you hear the same thing over and over again until you are sick. All these media consultants and know-it all make a fool out of themselves as soon as the game is played, then they are changing their stories to cover what the exposed. I bet I heard a million times how the Colts would dominate so badly that this might be the worst Super bowl in history. Then i heard a million times the same experts covering up there mistakes.
John Canzano, Jason Quick anyone.?
I read all the post I can possibly read, then I read a News flash from the media that I read a day or two ago on one or two of the Blazers Blog. Then I say wow now that is original. Right out of BE comment section. Some of the post are just opinions but JC and JQ puts them out as being factual, and guess who gets the credit for the info?. JC or JQ.
Anyway, what you are saying is true.
hg
Camby trade:
Paul Allen’s health issues are written all over this trade. He likely wants to live for the moment (this season) rather than rallying around a “wait until next year” cry. And I don’t blame him in the least.
We have two damned good centers that will supposedly be back with us healthy next season. So why add another quality center? Well, of course it’s designed for the short term to meet this season’s goals of the playoffs and beyond. But when I heard the trade announced, I thought what a waste this will be if Brandon can’t make it back healthy this year (and I’ve had my doubts of that all along). It’s just my opinion, but I can’t see us going anywhere without Mr. Roy. So did we trade Steve Blake and Travis Outlaw away as a stop-gap measure that doesn’t stand much of a chance to produce the desired results? That was my initial reaction to the trade.
Still, I fully understand why PA would want to do it.
P.S. I’m on board with consolidating our talent because it needed to be done, but I’d have preferred packaging 2 or 3 of our guys to land a PG for the future (sorry Bayless fans). Prediction: we’re not likely to miss Outlaw because of Dante’s rapid development (and Batum’s as well), but we are going to miss Steve Blake quite badly.
If this Blazer team doesn't light your fire, then your wood is wet!
Don't be sure that Camby is gone this summer
First, we don’t know how soon Joel will be back, and Greg/Marcus/LaMarcus would give us a great three man rotation at PF/C.
Second, I would argue that Marcus is better than Joel, though he probably only has a two year horizon, but if we think we’re losing Joel after next year anyway, grabbing Marcus, trading Joel, and bringing Freeland over to develop is a reasonable approach.
Third, if Joel IS healthy, there’s always the chance he opts out to see how much money he can get. The opportunity to re-sign Camby decreases the probability that Joel will try to play hard-ball with us — if he opts out and asks for a lot, we can say, “We’ll just sign Marcus, thank you for some great years.”
Fourth, this tells us that either Travis or Steve was not deemed to be part of the long term plans. I won’t be surprised if one of them gets signed this summer using our MLE, but it isn’t enough for both. So they may have told one of them, “We’ll be in touch,” but one of them, at least, was just going to walk away — so I’m not sure we’ve really given up anything we were going to have, long term.
I really liked both players, but to me, this makes sense even if Brandon doesn’t come back this year.
Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#7 #10 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!
I have similar thougts,,,But...
What about Marcus Camby starting next year? We just picked up the best rebounder in the NBA this year and one of the top guys in defense. He can shoot a fifteen foot jumper which makes him more dangerous on Pick and Roll and allows him to not draw defenders to our penetrating perimeter guys.
It also allows Greg to develop without all the pressures.
by Hermistonmelons on Feb 17, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
It's possible
But Greg is going to be well ahead of Camby, I think, by the start of next year. He took Joel’s spot this year.
If Greg does manage to come back for the playoffs, I expect Marcus to start, but next year? I would be surprised. But I wouldn’t be surprised to see Marcus getting 25-30 mpg.
Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#7 #10 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!
Agreed that we will miss Blake far more than Outlaw...
…watching Bayless run the offense is at times painful. And I’m one of his proponents who believes he can and will develop into an effective combo guard, a “Roy lite” if you will. The problem is I don’t see him developing until next year or perhaps even the year after that (let’s remember he’s only 21 and would be a junior in college this year). In the meantime, our offense will at times be pretty ugly when Andre and/or Roy aren’t out there to run it.
We did just clear a roster spot
and apparently Koponen is planning on playing in the NBA next year. I will not be at all surprised if PK shows up and takes the backup PG job.
Paul Allen’s health issues are written all over this trade. He likely wants to live for the moment (this season) rather than rallying around a "wait until next year" cry. And I don’t blame him in the least.
Last I heard, his progress was encouraging.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
by DonkeyShins on Feb 17, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
I truly hope those ecouraging reports play out.
But man, I’ve been around cancer so much with too many not to realize what a formidable foe it can be. It doesn’t help that Paul had all that radiation treatment for his earlier Hodgkins cancer. He’s a smart guy so don’t think he hasn’t researched the odds.
PA is the best owner we could ever hope to have and I want so much for him to beat the big C one more time. But its not a gimme.
If this Blazer team doesn't light your fire, then your wood is wet!
Eric Gordon is a baller.
It seems like every time he plays Portland, he’s the one that is most effective against us. It’s too bad for the clips that he plays 2nd fiddle to Baron Davis who, quite obviously, doesn’t try.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
Gordon is the only Clip that gives a damn.
by Sabonis4Ever on Feb 17, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
I'd add Jordan
It’s just that his game is so limited.
Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#7 #10 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!
BING! BING! BING! BING! BING!
WINNAR!
Lastly a media member argued, “Nate wanted to start Blake and have Outlaw as the 6th man. KP brought in Miller, constantly gushes about Bayless and seems infatuated with both Batum and Cunningham. Should we conclude that if you can’t make the correct decisions, others will make them for you?”
Nice work covering Cambyland, Ben.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Yes ... if the contest is who can prove they're a jackass.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
People were booing Jesse Jackson?
I wasn’t able to make the game. Did anyone see/hear it at the game last night? Was it loud enough for him to hear? That is just shameful…
I voted for him twice and I would have booed his ass.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
It is just my opinion ....
… but Jesse Jackson surrendered any claim to respect a long time ago. About the point where he became more about Jesse Jackson over everything else.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
Agreed
I used to have a lot of respect for JJ. Not so much anymore. I wouldn’t have booed him (that’s just not classy) but I wouldn’t go out of my way to meet him.
"My shoulder is OK. And away we go." -- Nic Batum
"wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow" -- Dave
by DonkeyShins on Feb 17, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
I was there in the 100 level and most definitely heard a loud chorus of boos...
…at least equal to if not louder than the cheers.
It was pretty classless if you ask me. I’m not a huge fan of some of the things Mr. Jackson has done, but I do believe than in many others he has stood for the right things.
Portland should have more class than that.
I never boo and would boo Jesse Jackson.
He’s a fraud and has made millions by taking advantage of real problems in the black community. He only divides people further. Get the heck out of Portland and let us deal with our own issues.
Jesse Jackson
There are a lot of valid reasons to have a low opinion of Jesse Jackson, but I think just not applauding him is a more tactful way of expressing that view than booing him.
Yes, that would be more tactful
but when was he ever tactful?
Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#7 #10 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!
Being tactful at sporting events
interesting concept
Roybot: "Then he said "My girlfriend is from LA." to which I replied "Well then you need to find a new girlfriend."’
by 92wastheyear on Feb 17, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
I have a rather low opinion of him myself.
I just don’t like seeing my city’s people taking the low road. Like Ben said, it seemed totally unnecessary.
and now back to our regularly scheduled program
Camby a Blazer. Awesome!
The #2 rebounder and shot blocker in the NBA. An unselfish player. A defensive juggernaut. An extremely intelligent guy, considered a “coach on the court”. a man of impeccable character, a great role model to the younger generation.
It’s hard to not be really pumped up about having him on the Blazers. I love Nate’s typical deadpan response- we needed a big, we got one.
Blazers can make the playoffs with Roy on the bench. Their goal should be to try to get him back for the last few regular season games in order to tune up for the playoffs.
He's a great addition to be sure...but let's not go overboard here...
…calling him a defensive juggernaut is a bit of a stretch.
Camby is a very, very good WEAK SIDE defender. He will come over to help out and get off ball blocks and change shots more than anything else.
He is not going to muscle up to and hand-cuff another team’s best big. He isn’t built physically for that, nor does he have the lateral quickness for it any longer.
He will help us a great deal. But I do think people are blowing this a bit out of proportion and perhaps expecting his impact to be more than he is capable of delivering.
"Not going to muscle up and hand-cuff another team's best big"
For a team that was relying on Juwan Howard to do that, this is an irrelevance, isn’t it?
Huge upgrade to our interior defense. Because of everything you said PLUS the fact that he IS going to muscle up and hand-cuff another team’s best big at least marginally better than Juwan.
And he’ll rebound far better than Juwan.
Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#7 #10 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!
You ignored what I said and put words in my mouth...
I didn’t say that Camby wouldn’t be an impact player. I didn’t say he wouldn’t be an upgrade defensively in the middle over Juwan Howard. Both are as obvious as saying the sky is blue.
What I DID say is that he is not a lock down ON BALL defender. This is a huge distinction that people seem to be missing. He is a gifted WEAK SIDE defender. I suggest you read up on what the difference is if you don’t understand this.
He is 6’11" and 235 lbs. He isn’t going to “muscle up” anyone in terms of being an impact on ball defender. What he WILL do is present a challenge for other teams to get clean looks at the basket in the paint, which by itself is a huge benefit to this team.
The entire reason I made this point in the first place was to point out that people who are looking at a 35 yr old Camby as the savior need a reality check. He is going to help us a great deal. But we will still be lucky to get out of the 2nd round even if he stays healthy (a question mark given his own injury problems over the course of his entire career).
I didn't ignore what you said or put words in your mouth
and I wasn’t disagreeing with you, I was just stating that the weakness you identified doesn’t matter that much because it’s still an improvement over Juwan. It was intended to be supplementary to your comment.
The only words I “put in your mouth” were a direct quote.
Yes, we’ll still be lucky to get to the second round, but this should be enough to get us into the playoffs and be competitive, which may not have happened without this deal.
The personal shot about reading up on the difference between on ball defender and weak side/help defender is unnecessary. There are other people on this site who understand basketball as well as you, perhaps even better. Some people have extensive coaching experience. It’s better to stick with addressing what people actually say rather than assuming anything about their knowledge.
Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#7 #10 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!
Point clarified on Camby and point taken on the "personal shot"
As an aside, I think it’s easy to compare resumes…or make one up… in cyber space. ;) That said, I do have extensive playing and coaching experience (though I work in an unrelated field as a consultant now).
by the way
By the way, did anyone else get the feeling that Martell and Rudy’s good performance might have been partly due to them no longer having to worry about whether they are going to get playing time, now that one forward and one guard have been traded away?
In my opinion the benefit the trade has of breaking the logjam at guard and forward is no small matter.
Rudy, perhaps
But he’s had good performances before, and Rudy went into this game expecting LESS time to be available at SG, with Brandon back.
Martell? Travis wasn’t taking any of Martell’s time all year, anyway, nothing had changed.
More likely — Rudy has struggled since he got back to get back into the flow, and part of the problem undoubtedly was the lack of practice time, with games coming fast and furious. But he’s just had a week, with plenty of chance to practice, another week of conditioning (which he lacked), another week to get comfortable with things.
And for Martell, the biggest factor was that he got some absolutely wide open looks from three early in the game, where he could take his time. Most of the time, he’ll nail those, and once he does, confidence goes up.
Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#7 #10 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!
Martel shot three pointers pregame until he made 500
Worked on being consistent…. It is a change to his pregame
by Hermistonmelons on Feb 17, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions
The thought did occur to me while watching last night.
If there is anything to it, we should be seeing it over the course of the next several games.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
Camby
“Don’t be sure that Camby is gone this summer”
Don’t know whether he will want to stick with the Blazers after this season (family in LA, potential logjam issue if Oden and Przy are healthy), but I hope they go after him and try as hard as they can to sign him.
A great win
And a much needed one. If BR wasn’t just venting his frustration by throwing out the worse case scenario and it is legit that he might not play for a long time, gonna need to win these ones.
I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
“Martell? Travis wasn’t taking any of Martell’s time all year, anyway, nothing had changed.”
But players could be influenced by the fear of logjams in the near future even if they aren’t a problem in the present.
They could be.
But I would think it rather unlikely.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
Friend, please
if you are responding to someone, click the “reply” button under their comment and reply there. It’s much easier to follow conversations.
Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#7 #10 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!
Martell
Hey Ben…Did Martell play last night? You guys at Blazersedge have never been Martell fans and you seem reluctant to give him any props for his improved play and by the way, his 28 points last night. Do you think it’s easy to hit seven threes. I guess anybody could have done it because the Clippers played lousy defense. Give the kid some love; he’s improving rapidly.
Perhaps the negativity towards Martell is because we chose him instead of Chris Paul... ;) hehe
On a more serious note, I love the kid personally…and believe his game does have some upside.
Unfortunately, when you are primarily a shooter, when you’re making shots you’re a hero. When you’re missing them you’re the goat.
Fortunately, Martell does have enough physical talent that he brings a little something else to the table. I believe he can develop into an above average wing defender both on ball and off. We’ve also seen him able to take the ball to the rim against some opponents and finish.
I think the next step for Martell is 1) ball handling – he needs to be able to handle the ball better in transition as well as in the half court set; 2) conditioning – his body still seems to be adjusting to the grind of the pro game.
Conditioning
I think this is a good point, but we have to remember he was out a year. I don’t find it surprising that January and February have been good months for him — his conditioning is probably starting to come around.
Give Blake the MLE in 2010!
Farewell to #2 and #25, good luck to you!
#7 #10 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!
Again, this team is loaded....
The fact that the Blazers are still in the playoff hunt after being decimated with a historical record number of key injuries is a tribute to our great depth. Even without Greg and Brandon, this team has the firepower to compete every night.
I love the Canby addition, and can’t wait to see him in person Friday night. His defensive presence is just what we needed.
And yes, I do think that Martell’s performance was related to the trade, and I do think we’ll see similar performances going forward.
Great job of roster balancing by KP, as well as removing Nate’s favorite unproductive minute eaters from the mix.
Pro Quality players
Pre Trade Post Trade
PG: 3 PG: 2
SG: 2 SG: 2
SF: 3 SF: 2
PF: 2 PF: 2
C: 1 C: 2
Very nice, KP. And all without giving up anything of value for our championship window. I’m liking this deal more every time I think about it!
he got a big
for a small and a medium…how’d he do that? :)
#52. Get well soon.
by Eat Politicians on Feb 17, 2010 6:26 PM PST reply actions

by 


































