Tyrus Thomas Trade Question
by GetOver on Feb 15, 2010 2:26 PM PST
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On ESPN.com i have been reading about a 3 way trade that involves the Portland Trailblazers, the Los Angeles Lakers, and the Chicago Bulls
The Lakers would get:
The Bulls would get:
The Blazers would get:
Now I understand why the lakers would want this, they get a nice PG and lessen the amount of money they would have to add to next seasons payrolls.
I understand kind of why the bulls would do; expiring contracts etc.
What I want to know is why the Blazers would be interested. I know that ESPN or Yahoo! has already reported that Sasha Vujacjc could be a deal break since supposedly the Blazers have no real interest in him or his not so good looking contract.
Even if that could be resolved I dont understand why we would want Tyrus Thomas at this point in the season, especially when we have to give up a bunch of players. Some of them like Outlaw (desperately needed 4th quarter scoring) and Blake (big fan of the Blake + Miller lineup) could be pretty useful down the stretch. Plus its not like we dont have two up and coming PFs in Dante Cunningham and Jeff Pendegraph
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No reason to make any trade this year
Unless we get a star caliber player, I don’t see any reason to make a trade before the deadline. Consolidating during free-agent signing and the draft is our best bet.
With the current salaries our players are getting we have to give up too much for any real return.
There is no reason for Portland to do this trade.
Thomas may be a banger but isn’t worth losing Travis, Juwan and Steve. For the Blazers, this trade doesn’t make sense short or long term, especially if we have to take on Vujacic, too. No way this is the trade KP pulls the trigger on, hopefully.
You lose all three of those guys once the season is over anyway.
You can resign Howard next season if you want and you could probably get Outlaw for the midlevel exception if you really, really wanted to.
Denis Rodman was a crazy person. Chris Anderson was a crazy person. Rajon Rondo reportedly has a terrible attitude. Michael Jordan was the biggest jerk ever. A good coach can deal with bad personalities.
If Nate is a good coach then he should be able to take a talented player like Tyrus and shape him into something usable. Especially since Tyrus basically plays basketball exactly like Nate wants. He’s ridiculously scrappy, tons of energy, etc.
Batum brings the doom.
by The Running Man on Feb 15, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
MJ was a jerk
he ruined my childhood and now lebrons came to be a jerk for him now that mjs gone
YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE BOARD YES!
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I don't like the karma
of trading Juwan away and brunging TT.
by LicketyBrindleDowntheMiddle on Feb 15, 2010 2:55 PM PST reply actions
Juwan is a deal-breaker for me
He may not have eye popping numbers, but his leadership and court savvy have proven invaluable. We are going to need him here to keep Tyrus in line should we get him. Plus, trading away a big to get a different big doesnt really solve our problems, especially when you have to put Blake AND Outlaw in there to do it, and all you get is Tyrus back. Throw Mills or Pendy in there instead of Howard, and it is more reasonable, but still something not even I would want to see happen. Blake + Webster would work too, not sure if the Bulls would go for Webster though, it sounds like they want expirings.
The only way I even touch this deal is if KP can work a trade with someone to take the machine and maybe a young guy or pick for a player that could help the blazers, preferably a big.
RUDY > MJ
Trade for Dalembert
It would clear up our 1/2/3 logjam (Sasha would just be benched)
It would also give us a solid rotation big in Thomas, a good defender. Vujacic would be a potentially valuable expiring contract next year.
It would be a strange trade, but not without merit.
KP’s “Culture” would seem to make this trade unlikely, however.
Free AK1984
I wouldn't be thrilled at helping the Lakers during our (hopeful) upcoming window.
by Timmay! on Feb 15, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't see us ever being better than the Lakers while Kobe's still a top 10 player anyway
but that’s certainly a consideration.
Free AK1984
Depends on how you feel about Hinrich.
If he really has lost a step on defense then sticking the Lakers with a crappy contract isn’t so bad.
Batum brings the doom.
by The Running Man on Feb 15, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
sounds like
Kirk Hinrich is a younger version of Derek Fisher
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I could see that.
Batum brings the doom.
by The Running Man on Feb 15, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
gasol/bynum combo with the scorer kobe
kobe won no championships without that other super player, and neither did jordan for that matter. the pau gasol steal is what made the laker a beast!! injury prone bynum has just been cream now that he is healthy again.
as an aside here, still don’t understand why noone offered odom a genuine deal after last season. the artest addition i have mixed emotions about.
I thought the Blazers should have
offered him the deal they tried to give to Hedo…it may still not been enough to get LO away from Candyland, but at least they would’ve tried to get in the L*kers business
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Horrible idea.
Pendergraph can fill our banger 4 next year.
Juwan can fill our retirement home next year.
Not worth it long term.
(Insert something snappy)
Does Chicago Need Juwan?
I wonder if he would just get waived immediately and resigned after 30 days.
No
We give up 3 players of varying usefulness and get one somewhat-useful player in return, plus Sasha who is just a chucker.
Plus, we help the Lakers get Hinrich??
No thank you! – Elgin
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batum>roy>nash>rest of the blazers>rest of nba>NBADL players>college players>rec league players>>>sasha
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by thomasikehara on Feb 15, 2010 3:43 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
I don't think so
I wouldn’t mind Thomas. However, I really don’t want to help the Lakers get better. They’re going to have a good sized hole at PG in the coming years, and I’d rather not help them fill that position. On the other hand, Hinrich is unlikely to kill us, or even be the difference like some of the faster PG’s could be.
Ok. What I know.
This trade is currently up in the air. As far as I can tell, the Blazers are the hold up because we’re not going to keep Vujacic. They are preemptively shopping him around, in an attempt to find a bite. Rough guess is that they want a lower volume shooter or a big. I’m honestly okay with Tyrus Thomas, I think he plays like Travis, if Travis crashed the boards. He can’t create his shot, but we need more guys hitting the glass.
Plus, if we got him we’d have the guys who went 2-4-6 in the ’06 draft. How cool would that be?
(Insert something snappy)
His game is way different than Outlaw.
He doesn’t shoot three’s at all. He doesn’t create off the dribble. He doesn’t elevate and shoot jump shots over people.
He’s basically the anti-Outlaw, both good and bad.
Batum brings the doom.
by The Running Man on Feb 15, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
No.
Steve Blake is our future.
Sign Steve Blake to a long term contract now!
by T Darkstar on Feb 15, 2010 5:45 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I think he would make a pretty good assistant coach someday.
Maybe for Oakhill Academy or somewhere like that.
Batum brings the doom.
by The Running Man on Feb 15, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
How about...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yf97g6f
or
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yko2yto
Both houston and new york get pieces to finish out season, and then lots of money to cut and we get a big. which do you prefer?
The only player worth Juwan is Lebron. I heart him.
"What people need to know is that those pictures were taken a year and a half ago, and I've grown since then." - Greg Oden
Why are we not going after Kirk ourselves?
we can give them the expiring contracts they want and probally a little extra
"Get three superstars and then fill the roster with guys willing to go through a wall to win." - KP
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
"Get three superstars and then fill the roster with guys willing to go through a wall to win." - KP
Simple Answer - We don't want Kirk
Oh, I know everyone and their brother on BE has been sweating him for going on two years now – but KP and the Blazer brass clearly aren’t interested. It may be they think he’s going downhill fast, it may be his contract, it may be both. I don’t know, I don’t care, but it’s been pretty evident for awhile now that the Kirk to Portland lovefest has been entirely fueled by fans, not the team.
"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare
I heard a national news agency report Kirk saying he was part of a pending deal with Portland, back on draft day
did his agent read that rumor on BE, too?
After Miller was signed, I closed that chapter. But it wasn’t all fan chatter
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
My problem is us helping the L#kers out
But the reality is that Tyrus Thomas and Vuji would be talent upgrades.
#52+1.5
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