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Last year, I believe they left the 300 Sections alone, but now even those are also going up. Purple is increasing by 10%, Red by 13%, Orange by 17%. Lower bowl is going up again, too - Blue by 6%, Yellow by 9%, White by 10%.

Between the economy being in the tank, and the team having a letdown year, management must be pretty confident in Portland's Blazermaniacs to come through. I'm sure they will.... I'm not sure I'll be among them :(

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Boooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!

by axel360 on Feb 14, 2010 1:37 PM PST reply actions  

in other news

water is wet

somebody died today

and the hospital reported several babies were born!

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Feb 14, 2010 1:46 PM PST reply actions  

Its true that everything generally becomes more expensive over time

But the increases aren’t exactly in line with inflation, if you catch my drift. Given some of the other factors (poor team performance vs expectations, bad economy), the bumps were a bit higher than I expected. There are lots of other problems in the world, though – nobody should feel sorry for basketball fans if they get priced out.

Holding out for Hedo

by T$ 225 on Feb 14, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd like to see the prices go down

with this new proposed CBA that the owners got slapped back in their faces with.

"Space Monkey, Mafia, Hula Hoops, Castro, Edsel is a no-go" -- Billy Joel

by RedUniInLA on Feb 15, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

with the nba loosing 400 million dollars last year

i would expect this

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by thomasikehara on Feb 14, 2010 2:03 PM PST reply actions  

If the NBA is losing $400M, it probably has a lot more to do with

attendance in Detroit, Memphis, Washington, etc., than because the Blazers aren’t squeezing enough blood out of the local rocks.

Holding out for Hedo

by T$ 225 on Feb 14, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You know what I hate?

that they now charge full price for the preseason games. After one game last year, I was done with the preseason. And it’s not like you can sell them. Well, not for more than 5 bucks. At least I’m not paying $150 for a preseason ticket.

by Section323 on Feb 14, 2010 2:24 PM PST reply actions  

At least the NFL is open about not trying hard in the pre-season

NBA marketers keep selling preseason as equal level of competition with regular season. Who are they kidding?

Holding out for Hedo

by T$ 225 on Feb 14, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I question your fandom

I would love to be able to go to all the preseason games. I didn’t want to watch them on TV because they are lame and boring, but it would be an honor and a privilege to attend them in person.

by tominhawaii on Feb 15, 2010 8:16 AM PST up reply actions  

They are priced in with the regular season tickets so are the same price as the regular season...

then again the play off first round tickets are the same price as the season ticket prices but cost extra.

by Natsthecat on Feb 15, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

They don't even rate streamers when we win

I was at the Denver pre-season game (three hours long thanks to approximately 8 million fouls called by the replacement refs) and when the Blazers won we got no streamers. That being said, I liked going. I viewed it as a chance to buy my merchandise for the year and check out what, if anything, had changed in the RG.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Feb 15, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I was being tongue and cheek

The are just scrimmages to me. I think they should be free, or require a small donation to a charity, or only ask for enough to cover the cost of utilities.

by tominhawaii on Feb 16, 2010 3:29 AM PST up reply actions  

What season ticket holders should be asking is

what will Blazers Mgmt. do in the event of a strike for refunds?

Draft Cole Aldrich 2010

by jlarose78 on Feb 14, 2010 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

Surprise.

"What people need to know is that those pictures were taken a year and a half ago, and I've grown since then." - Greg Oden

by dario argento on Feb 14, 2010 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

They're doing it to punish all of the people who criticize them on B.E.

A positive attitude will not solve all of your problems but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort - Herm Albright

Keep the faith.

by fajunga on Feb 14, 2010 5:10 PM PST reply actions  

It's a Game

Assuming the management sees benefits to selling out the Rose Garden the game is: how high can it be raised before the Rose Garden cannot be sold out?

by colganc on Feb 14, 2010 10:50 PM PST reply actions  

It's already to pricey to go to a game. This means fewer games for me unless I get free tickets.

Players get paid too much as is. They need to lower max salaries and stop charging 8 dollars a beer. NBA’s greed has gone too far.

by BRoyInThe4th on Feb 15, 2010 1:19 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

I love me some Blazers, but proffesional sports in general is MESSED

Consider this: I believe the price for a courtside seat at an OSU Basketball game is under $25.

The WORST Blazer tickets are around $15 total.

While the courtside/100 lvl blazer tickets are $150+, that an 800% increase from the college game!!!

And I got to see Roy and a bunch of other NBA stars for cheap if not free(student tickets/worked events).

Whoever got this whole inflated salary thing going should be ashamed, I know it occured in the 60s or 70s about when things really exploded but jeezus….its just a big sham.

And how many NBA/NFL etc actually give a decent percentage of their millions to charity and family? I know the latter can be set for life, even extended family which is good and all, but guys would still be able to help out mom and pop if they made under a million a year.

They just can’t afford 30 room houses.

/throw up

B.S. Liberal Studies OSU '06
Trade for Gerald Wallace!!

by TyboOSU on Feb 15, 2010 3:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Willing to pay $5 for me seats

That’s fine.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Feb 15, 2010 9:14 AM PST reply actions  

so true.

I was at the computer when they released tickets for sale last fall. I wanted to go to the cleavland game. It was somehow sold out instantly. Turned out ok though because Oden was out for that game and I was really looking forward to seeing him go up against shaq. Would of been a waste of money. That’s the difference with sports vs other things like concerts. At least at a concert you know who you will be seeing. With injuries ect. you just know your going to see a basketball game with some players. That’s where the stakes get higher as ticket prices go up. You could pay alot of money to watch scrubs play.

by Flapbreaker on Feb 15, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

how bout the Laker-Blazer game

No Kobe, no Brandon, no win, and no effort. Took my mom to her first Blazer game, needless to say it did not make her really want to go to Blazer games in the future. Was really not enjoying having paid a lot to be heckled by Laker fans. Ugh.

You're saying that they look like they're giving it their all. And you know why they look that way? Because they're bad, and it literally takes them the maximum physical effort to accomplish basic baseball tasks like throwing the ball from short to first. When David Eckstein throws the ball to first base, he has to wind up like a shot-putter, spin around forty-three times, and launch it at an angle 89 degrees from the horizontal. Afterwards, he undergoes an IV drip for a fortnight and he's so out of breath that he requires several months of acupuncture to regain the power of speech. For this we laud him. -Junior of Deadspin on 'scrappy' players

by TheOdenator on Feb 15, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I was there too

The NBA is a star-driven league. Without either star, it was going to be a little flat. I know I had primed myself to heckle Kobe and when he wasn’t there it was hard to be as loud.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Feb 15, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea same here.

Just a microcosm of the problems with pricing in the NBA; its a gamble.

You're saying that they look like they're giving it their all. And you know why they look that way? Because they're bad, and it literally takes them the maximum physical effort to accomplish basic baseball tasks like throwing the ball from short to first. When David Eckstein throws the ball to first base, he has to wind up like a shot-putter, spin around forty-three times, and launch it at an angle 89 degrees from the horizontal. Afterwards, he undergoes an IV drip for a fortnight and he's so out of breath that he requires several months of acupuncture to regain the power of speech. For this we laud him. -Junior of Deadspin on 'scrappy' players

by TheOdenator on Feb 15, 2010 1:58 PM PST up reply actions  

not at all

like simple supply and demand economics. that model best applies to commodities, foodstuffs and the like. Critical to the theory is that there are multiple producers of the commodity, therefore a competitive mechanism in place to reduce or raise prices based on surpluses or shortages of whatever it is you sell.

If anything, a monopoly is the better economic analog. But that does not account for the emotional attachment that many feel for their hometown professional franchise.

There is a reason that Congress gets involved in matters of professional sports teams. They are cultural institutions, and the history and evolution of these sports are a cultural heritage in the way a gallon of petrol can never be.

Toss in the media and you have a very complex relationship that the professional sports franchise has with its community.

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Feb 15, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

No

Congress gets involved because the NBA and other major league’s are explicitly exempt from antitrust laws and so they are regulated through congressional rules. That’s why the steroid issue etc. was a congressional hearing.

Supreme Court case exempting baseball from Anti-trust Laws

I agree with your main point thought that this is greater than a supply and demand case. If public funds are spent on the Rose Garden, don’t those tax-payers deserve access to what they’ve funded?

You're saying that they look like they're giving it their all. And you know why they look that way? Because they're bad, and it literally takes them the maximum physical effort to accomplish basic baseball tasks like throwing the ball from short to first. When David Eckstein throws the ball to first base, he has to wind up like a shot-putter, spin around forty-three times, and launch it at an angle 89 degrees from the horizontal. Afterwards, he undergoes an IV drip for a fortnight and he's so out of breath that he requires several months of acupuncture to regain the power of speech. For this we laud him. -Junior of Deadspin on 'scrappy' players

by TheOdenator on Feb 15, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

you prove my point.

Why do they need an anti-trust exemption if they are operating in a supply and demand environment?

And the fact that there is this anti-trust history with baseball does not refute the assertion that Congress has a paternal attitude towards professional sports. Steroid use has nothing to do with free market safeguards.

No either/or there. Check your logic.

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Feb 15, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just saying that 'No the reasoning why congress gets involved isn't right'

I agree that they aren’t operating in a supply and demand market, and just wanted to point out that is the very reason why congress got involved and gets involved in professional sports issues is because they are monopolies.

I’m sorry if I didn’t write clearly, but I’m at a loss as to how you think I could possibly be saying that it is governed by supply and demand, while I reference professional sports as government specifically sanctioned monopolies.

You're saying that they look like they're giving it their all. And you know why they look that way? Because they're bad, and it literally takes them the maximum physical effort to accomplish basic baseball tasks like throwing the ball from short to first. When David Eckstein throws the ball to first base, he has to wind up like a shot-putter, spin around forty-three times, and launch it at an angle 89 degrees from the horizontal. Afterwards, he undergoes an IV drip for a fortnight and he's so out of breath that he requires several months of acupuncture to regain the power of speech. For this we laud him. -Junior of Deadspin on 'scrappy' players

by TheOdenator on Feb 15, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

that's the point. Maybe more clearly:

They are monopolies, and so aren’t governed by supply and demand. I was agreeing with you, and telling you that the government gets involved not because they are cultural institutions, but because congress has granted them anti-trust exemptions.

I thought you might find that information helpful.

You're saying that they look like they're giving it their all. And you know why they look that way? Because they're bad, and it literally takes them the maximum physical effort to accomplish basic baseball tasks like throwing the ball from short to first. When David Eckstein throws the ball to first base, he has to wind up like a shot-putter, spin around forty-three times, and launch it at an angle 89 degrees from the horizontal. Afterwards, he undergoes an IV drip for a fortnight and he's so out of breath that he requires several months of acupuncture to regain the power of speech. For this we laud him. -Junior of Deadspin on 'scrappy' players

by TheOdenator on Feb 15, 2010 3:40 PM PST up reply actions  

indeed

I was responding to the “No,” your comment title. Perhaps “And” would be more appropriate. Anti-trust history is totally relevant. My point is that there can be more than one reason why Congress considers pro sports to be its business. Just because anti-trust protection provided the initial legal basis for Congress’ involvement does not mean their interest has not evolved.

Consider the steroid example. This is what i mean by “paternalism.”

I think we understand each other. :)

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Feb 15, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Put another way,

While Congress’ initial reason for getting involved with pro sports may have been economic, their reasons for doing so now appear to be largely political and moral.

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Feb 15, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

more accurate:

replace “economic” with “legal.”

"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.

by Blazin' on Feb 15, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Good move for Blazes

The fans are still very passionate about the team with so much potential on the roster, this wasn’t hard to see coming. Whining about it on from Mom’s basement on a message board might get them to reconsider, though.

by kutanskm on Feb 15, 2010 12:58 PM PST reply actions  

and praising them from Mom's basement

Will get you courtside seats?

Once again, this is a fan board and as the people paying for the tickets of course this is going to be an issue we’re passionate about.

Step your game up man, should have come stronger on your first post. This sites the high jump not the limbo.

You're saying that they look like they're giving it their all. And you know why they look that way? Because they're bad, and it literally takes them the maximum physical effort to accomplish basic baseball tasks like throwing the ball from short to first. When David Eckstein throws the ball to first base, he has to wind up like a shot-putter, spin around forty-three times, and launch it at an angle 89 degrees from the horizontal. Afterwards, he undergoes an IV drip for a fortnight and he's so out of breath that he requires several months of acupuncture to regain the power of speech. For this we laud him. -Junior of Deadspin on 'scrappy' players

by TheOdenator on Feb 15, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

They also added a few more price levels

Like they added green last year, they added Yellow Corner and Forest Green.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Feb 15, 2010 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

My Yellows went up 50% last year.

I’m not a season ticket holder this year.

I’m a pretty rabid fan, but everyone has their price. If the team flounders, they’re going to approach that price for a lot of people pretty quick.

I hope it doesn’t happen though, I’d happily get priced out of season tickets forever in exchange for a championship.

by Free Bayless on Feb 15, 2010 8:29 PM PST reply actions  

This is classic economics...

The next home game will be the 100th straight sell out…

That means the price is still too low.

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by timbo on Feb 16, 2010 8:52 AM PST reply actions  

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