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Media Row Report: Blazers 106, Bucks 80

In arguably their best all around performance of the season, the Portland Trail Blazers stomped on a direction-less Milwaukee Bucks team, never pausing to take a breath and barely resting their key players during a 106-80 drubbing at the Rose Garden on Monday night.

The Bucks functioned about as well without starting point guard Brandon Jennings as I function when my high-speed internet goes out. Meltdown status. Jennings, the team's leading scorer and only play-maker, missed his first game of the season tonight due to a foot injury that will keep him out for a month or more, and the Bucks looked like their heart had been ripped out of their chests from the jump. Keyon Dooling isn't going to cut it, folks. Milwaukee stumbled to 18 first quarter points, relying almost exclusively on one-on-one action and perimeter shots, and they mixed in tons of really sloppy turnovers early.

The Blazers, on the other hand, rode the hot hand of Wesley Matthews to an early lead and never looked back. Matthews, who loves his heat checks like few other NBA players, kept cashing in tonight, hitting three first-quarter three-pointers on his way to 13 first-quarter points and 22 on the night.

From there, it was the LaMarcus Aldridge highlight tape again, as he converted alley oops in bunches and put up a whopping line: 29 points and 19 rebounds. The only question? Why did Aldridge play 44 minutes and why was he in the game with less than two minutes to go, with the Blazers leading a rolled-over, short-handed opponent by 20 points at home?

Unfortunately, coach and player didn't get their answered synced up.

"He can rest [this week]," Blazers coach Nate McMillan said. "We have three or fours days. It's not a blowout, win the game. That's the bottom line."

Aldridge, however, admitted that he was in the game to chase his career-high for rebounds, which was 18 before tonight. "I was so tired. I was like, 'Nate, just take me out.' He was trying to leave me in to get it but I was so tired, I was like, 'just take me out.'"

Shamelessly setting records in garbage time or not, Aldridge was mean and vicious tonight, going over, above and through anyone Milwaukee threw at him. Over the last four games, Aldridge is averaging 29.3. points and 12.8 rebounds, and he had the local media buzzing about whether he'd turned a page in his development. Aldridge said afterwards that he "definitely" feels like he is playing the best basketball of his career. "This is the best I've played, as far as points in the paint, going to the basket, getting to the free throw line, all of those things."

The interesting thing about Aldridge's stretch of excellent play is that it's come against good and bad defenses alike. While the Blazers did run over both Golden State (No. 27 in defensive efficiency) and the Minnesota Timberwolves (No. 28), Aldridge also put up numbers against Dallas (No. 6) and Milwaukee (No. 7). So is he for real? 

It's too early to be able to comfortably answer that question in the affirmative, but there is plenty to like. He's responding to an increase in touches well and without ball-stopping. On the contrary, the off-ball movement from his teammates and the perimeter ball movement in general have been better in recent days than at any point this season. "We've talked about establishing the paint and going inside and playing from the inside out," McMillan said. "We can't go away from this. We won't go away from it. I think he's getting more comfortable with that role of being the guy that we go into and making decisions, and he's been great."

The difficulty in coaching any post threat -- Dwight Howard included -- is weaving that player's one-on-one abilities into the overall offense and achieving the proper balance between star and everyone else. By both hitting the glass and finishing his patented wheel lob play at such a stunning rate, Aldridge has mitigated those concerns to a large degree. The easy points from both are upping his efficiency and creating a positive reinforcement cycle. Get in the paint, score points, hit the boards, score points, get in the paint, score points. As the season wears on, and teams finally adjust by staying basket-side on him and by religiously boxing him out, Aldridge will need to show that he has the ability to counter and to prove that he will continue to work for rebounds despite extra attention. During this stretch, he's shown how dangerous he can be when fully motivated. Hopefully he's watching himself on tape.

Ditto for Rudy Fernandez, who is getting back to an all-around game on offense that Blazers fans haven't seen in ages. He's dribbling with conviction, he's shooting with confidence, he's running with purpose, he's celebrating with goggles. He finished with 17 points and seven assists and he played around a cold outside shooting night very well.

With the win, The Blazers nudge past .500, but if you're looking to grade this week they earned a solid "A" on the court. Not only did they go undefeated in Brandon Roy's absence, they showed cohesion and energy throughout, avoiding a stumble on Saturday and responding by dropping the hammer tonight. Their reward: four days off before a Christmas date with the Golden State Warriors in Oakland.

While huge questions still loom for the Blazers -- none bigger than "How do they incorporate Brandon Roy back into this offensive machine?" -- they can wait until tomorrow at the very least. For now, rewind those LaMarcus Aldridge highlights.

Random Games Notes

  • Video: LaMarcus Aldridge puts Andrew Bogut on a poster on the great pass from Rudy Fernandez. 
  • Video: LaMarcus Aldridge puts Luc Richard Mbah a Moute on a poster on the alley oop from Luke Babbitt.
  • In case you missed it, John Canzano wrote another "do something!" column this weekend. It included a vignette about Blazers Owner Paul Allen, Bob Whitsitt, and how a coin was slid across a table by Whitsitt to remind Allen how rich he is so that he would pony up for an expensive deal. On Monday, Blazers Broadcaster Mike Barrett blogged that the penny story "never happened." After tonight's game, Allen took to Twitter to write, "Mike Barrett has good take on Blazer season, debunks bogus "penny story" & makes up for missing fact checking." 
  • There are no winners in this story and I don't often come to the defense of those being assailed for not checking their facts. But any discussion of "bogus" starts and ends with firing a general manager on the night of the NBA draft, fleeing the scene in a chauffeur-drive SUV without taking questions from the media, leaving your employees to clean up the mess, then turning around six months later to take blind shots at a media member from your Twitter account to dispute a triviality. You're better than that, Mr. Allen. Try a non-scripted interview with any independent media member before complaining subliminally on a social network.
  • Speaking of fact-checking, on Sunday night's Oregon Sports Final with Matt Smith I made a reference to the Wizards/Suns/Magic trades over the weekend and said that the timing of the deal was influenced by the Dec. 15 date when summer free agent signings become eligible to be traded. As none of the guys in that trade were summer free agent signings, I regret that error. If you both caught the error and actually cared, I'm impressed. 
  • Patty Mills addressed the Blazers crowd before the game to offer fans a nice holiday message. During the game, the team showed holiday-themed messages from players and coaches on the jumbrotron. When Brandon Roy appeared to say, "I'd like to wish you and yours a happy holiday," a fan down the aisle from my seat immediately shouted in response, "Trade him!" Cold-blooded.
  • The Sean Marks highlight of the night (a new feature) came early in the game, when he decided to throw on a one-man full court press before thinking better of it and swiveling to high-tail it the other direction as if struck by a lightning bolt. The runner up, of course, was when Marks was thrown to the ground by Drew Gooden, discarded as if he was a bag full of beard and back hair clippings.
  • Blazers rookie Luke Babbitt missed the rim completely on an unguarded 8-foot jumper, drawing backboard only. Not the easiest thing to do. 
  • More on Babbitt: I've been studying the offense very carefully when he's in the game, and I've picked up an interesting tell from his teammates. Whenever Babbitt finds himself open and in scoring position, he motions to his teammates to let them know by putting his hands up in a catching/shooting position. This is, apparently, a clever deke, because his teammates don't respond as you might expect. Rather than feeding him the rock, they immediately look the other direction, as if Babbitt is invisible, and move quickly to pass the ball to anyone besides him, unless there is absolutely no other option. Certainly, NBA advance scouts will catch on to this ingenious opposite day strategy in no time. 
  • Bucks forward Ersan Ilyasova is an internet favorite and there's a lot to like about his game. One thing I noticed watching him warm up is that his poor three-point shooting this season (he's down to 28% from 36% and 33% in his first two years) isn't a fluke. During warmups, he missed a ton of shots to the left or to the right, far more than a reliable shooter would. If your shot mechanics aren't aligning the attempt properly horizontally there's no way you're ever going to hit regularly from outside. Ilyasova did the smart thing and didn't attempt a single three-pointer during tonight's game.
  • Dante Cunningham left the game in the first quarter with an ankle injury and did not return. Blazers coach Nate McMillan said Cunningham was not able to return health-wise. McMillan also said Cunningham will be reevaluated later this week. The Blazers have an off day tomorrow.
  • Jason Quick of The Oregonian reports on Twitter: "Joel Przybilla (sprained left ankle) says he won't play Christmas night in Golden State and might not even make trip to Utah and Denver." The Blazers face the Jazz and Nuggets on December 27th and 28th, respectively.
Nate McMillan's Post-Game Comments

LaMarcus Aldridge
I think he's playing great basketball. It's continued from the Dallas game, just being aggressive in the paint, establishing the paint. This is something we've talked about, really for the last few years, being able to establish an inside game. I thought tonight they did a great job doing that, going through LaMarcus, going through Miller. Playing from the inside out as opposed to settling for the perimeter game. It starts with LaMarcus, he did another great job of attacking the basket, making decisions, kicking it out.
Lots of assists
Great. I thought they played just solid, team basketball. The ball movement has been good. 27 assists tonight. Rudy comes off the bench with 7 assists, so we're moving the ball, that means we're executing. We're setting screens and getting the ball to the open man. You can knock down shots when you play in a rhythm like that.
Defending Bogut
It started with LaMarcus and he got a quick foul so we put Dante on him. Dante does a great job of moving his feet, Sean, we kind of mixed up our defense and tried to get him off the block and not commit to a double-team. We really didn't have to tonight. We really just made him shoot over the top.
Real development from LaMarcus Aldridge
As a team, we have to take advantage of what he's capable of doing. We've talked about establishing the paint and going inside and playing from the inside out. We can't go away from this. We won't go away from it. I think he's getting more comfortable with that role of being the guy that we go into and making decisions and he's been great. 
Why did Aldridge play 44 minutes tonight?
He can rest, we have three or fours days. It's not a blowout, win the game. That's the bottom line.
It's not a blowout?
Win the game.
Plans for this week?
We'll take tomorrow off and come back Wednesday to practice and go from there. 
Dante Cunningham didn't return because?
He couldn't go.
More entertaining basketball
We're moving. We talk about ball movement. We talk about execution. We talk about setting screens. We're doing all of those things. We're pushing the ball in transition. We're getting up and down the floor. We have guys out there who bring some speed to the floor with Nicolas and Wesley and Rudy, and we're getting out and moving.
More gelled than earlier in the year?
We've been able to fill in for guys that have been out. They've stepped up and played great basketball. Guys like Rudy and Nicolas and LaMarcus. We've had to make some adjustments with guys being out of the lineup, injuries, and we've always said it's an opportunity for other guys to step up and these guys have done that.

Reaction to Cunningham injury
He gets his opportunity and I don't think DC has had an injury since being here. It's just one of those things. You try not to think too much about it. Go to the next play, which is who we're going to fill in with. Nic did a good job, Babbitt came in and played some four, it was good for us.
Pleased with this winning streak with thin roster
I love all wins. I do. But it's just like a loss, you enjoy this and you start thinking about the next game. What I do like about this team is I think we've gotten better each game. That is what you want to see. See the team improve, even though we've had a pretty good margin there, we continue to play good basketball, we didn't start to play with the game and get sloppy. They continued to execute and did a good job.

Rudy is a surprise given where his year started?
I've always coached Rudy, especially this season, on what I've seen. He's been a professional since returning here. I know how he feels. We know the feeling early this season. Even though he was expressing himself about wanting to play somewhere else or go home, he always has come into the gym and played hard, games, he's played hard, and that is what I coach, not what I've heard. From what I've seen from Rudy now is what I saw in September.
Best stretch of Rudy's career?
Yeah, well, I wouldn't say career. I think he's had some good stretches. But certainly [best of] this year. He seems to have a rhythm. He is getting more minutes, he's playing in more of a flow. Rudy is a rhythm guy who needs minutes. He's getting those minutes now and he's showing he can do more than shoot the ball. He's making plays, tonight he has seven assists, showing more to his game. He's doing a great job.
-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter

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“…DS is right in all of his replies…”
by Timmay! on Dec 6, 2010 12:04 AM PST up reply actions

by Dirty Socks on Dec 21, 2010 12:39 AM PST reply actions

"...DS is right in all of his replies..."
by Timmay! on Dec 6, 2010 12:04 AM PST up reply actions

by Dirty Socks on Dec 21, 2010 12:43 AM PST reply actions  

LaMarcus Aldridge is for real

Clear-cut number one option on offense, future All-Star.

OFFICIAL STAMP

Enjoy the Ride

Blunt+Sharp

by DigitalDaggers on Dec 21, 2010 12:47 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Where do you get that official stamp?

Also, you might want to add some ‘IMO’ type qualifiers. What you are saying isn’t fact.

by MadBlaze on Dec 21, 2010 1:20 AM PST up reply actions  

OFFICIAL STAMP

I got it from the Mayans.

I think they got it from God.

Enjoy the Ride

Blunt+Sharp

by DigitalDaggers on Dec 21, 2010 1:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I have to admit I'm very worried about Babbit now.

More on Babbitt: I’ve been studying the offense very carefully when he’s in the game, and I’ve picked up an interesting tell from his teammates. Whenever Babbitt finds himself open and in scoring position, he motions to his teammates to let them know by putting his hands up in a catching/shooting position. This is, apparently, a clever deke, because his teammates don’t respond as you might expect. Rather than feeding him the rock, they immediately look the other direction, as if Babbitt is invisible, and move quickly to pass the ball to anyone besides him, unless there is absolutely no other option.

Additionally, late in the game, Aldridge had some words with Babbit after Luke had failed to get back in transition because he was jawing with a ref. (This was according to Milke Rice.). Whether or not that was true, what you could see on screen was Babbit not acknowledging Aldridge’s scolding and Aldridge getting a sour look on his face. I would love it if someone could produce a link showing this.

My point is, I have little hope for a rook who has gotten on the bad side of his teammates. I hope this is not a serious issue, and I hope if there is something there that it doesn’t affect Armon as well.

"That really stuck with me and built something inside of me. He's a two-time MVP. If he comes in and works like that, then that's what I need to be doing." - Armon Johnson on Steve Nash

by conspirator5 on Dec 21, 2010 1:04 AM PST reply actions  

'We traded Martell for...this??"

Yeah, I could see how his teammates would be a little disgusted.

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 21, 2010 7:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually recall

Monty Williams having similar issues with Webster. It was 2 seasons before Webster got the message. You can be stubborn and waste valuable learning experience or you can heed advice, put it into practice, and get there a lot sooner.

"You play good defense and let your offense generate from that. You will find that success of your offense, is proportional to the extent of your defensive diligence." Jack Ramsey philosophy (it works)

by WyEast on Dec 21, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

yeah, before he was Marty Blazer

Webster was almost traded in the Z-Bo/Frye deal because (as his coaches were saying at the time) he thought he had all the answers before someone asked him a question

Something changed in Martell during the summer of ’07, after that he was a model citizen. He just got too expensive for the role he was expected to play in Portland (and reportedly his agent asked for a trade at the end of the season)

Babbitt could sure use a mentor like Monty right now, but neither Williams, Webster or Bayless are going to come walking through that PF door

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 21, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

You can live and learn

But you can live a lot longer if you don’t take too long to learn. Here’s a simple guess, Babbitt has been brought in as a shooter first and was likely meant to be a compliment to Roy. Roy is not playing now and LMA is the new leader. So he will not only remind Babbitt of that fact, he will insist that rookies carry duffel bags and getting to actually play with the team is a privilege.
  Babbitt has tons to learn and his teammates will be a large part of that success. The lesson is, don’t let them down, and they can help you become a better player.
  wisdom is the sum wise men don’t need it and fools won’t heed it.

"You play good defense and let your offense generate from that. You will find that success of your offense, is proportional to the extent of your defensive diligence." Jack Ramsey philosophy (it works)

by WyEast on Dec 21, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Is it just me...

or does Sean Marks find himself at the butt of blazersedge ridicule after every game?

by jigglyai on Dec 21, 2010 1:10 AM PST reply actions  

Mostly from Ben. Marks doesn’t deserve all this disparaging tonight though

by JChangNZ on Dec 21, 2010 1:26 AM PST up reply actions  

marks is very limited as a player, and shouldn't be playing 24 minutes a game

that said, the dude is working his butt off out there. I’ll take that. And his hustle and energy are nice to see, even when they don’t produce the desired results.

Dude blocked a couple shots tonight, rebounded his position, and didn’t try to do to much. What more do you want from an emergency signing after the season starts?

"I want to be traded to a contender" is almost always code-speak for "I'm a loser."
-Dave, 2/5/2010: http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/2/5/1297509/no-amore-for-amare

by douglast on Dec 21, 2010 2:32 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

That summarizes my thoughts pretty well

He didn’t shoot well, at 2 for 7, but so what? That’s not why he’s here. He’s here to keep us from sinking too terribly far while a better player rests. In those minutes tonight, where he played longer than anyone would hope, he got rebounds, a steal and a 2 blocks. This is best case for the situation

We should bring in more scrub big men; they make good curse fodder.

by dan_the_man on Dec 21, 2010 3:08 AM PST up reply actions  

About 3 of his shots and rebounds came...

in a 6 or 7 second stretch of trying to tip in someone’s miss while surrounded by Bucks trying to rebound. He does some funny things but that and a couple other stretches were kind of beastly.

He’s looking to be solid as a third string guy.

by poorwebguy on Dec 21, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he needs a break

He’s basically this year’s Juwan Howard, without the fatherly coaching. He probably had no intention of playing so many minutes. He’s been cannning that 18 footer pretty well, though.

by superfly05 on Dec 21, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

well put...

no need to hate on a guy for his physical limitations. He has worked his butt off to even have a spot on a NBA roster and for that he should not be constantly ridiculed. I don’t know that you could ask for much more from the 15th guy on the roster. I don’t see B-Edgers taking shots at Ben for his weight problem or something like that.

witty statement here

by Escrote on Dec 21, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

It is harsh but so are Ben's comments...

I feel it is equally harsh and maybe it will cause him to reexamine this. I don’t know maybe Marks is rude and constantly takes jabs at Ben or something.

witty statement here

by Escrote on Dec 21, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

you should just email Ben about how you view his comments.

He’s said before that he doesn’t come back and read comments to his post. That might be more effective.

by hoodieNation on Dec 21, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

He doesn't read the comments?

That’s worse than having a driver for your black “getaway” SUV .

I jest, I jest! I wouldn’t read all these comments either.:)

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by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 21, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahaha

wouldn’t it be funny if Marks was just a complete jerk. He just seems like such an a-hole.

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by joelor on Dec 21, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know he seems like a normal enough guy...

although some of the players are probably protected a bit by the media and teams. If a writer came out and blasted a guy for being rude then they might have access limited by the team. Maybe Marks calls Ben names or something.

witty statement here

by Escrote on Dec 21, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Marks hit an open jumper off a pass from Rudy. That’s more than we can say for Luke “the best shooter in the draft” Babbitt.

by flyduckfly on Dec 21, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed...

Sean Marks was not terrible last night and actually looked like an effective Center for most of the time he was on the floor…

He is what he is… An end of the bench big body that’s been forced into extensive duty. That’s the standard he should be measured against.

GO BLAZERS!!!

by Ilikeemall on Dec 21, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed wholeheartedly...

This reminds me a great deal of a recently Bedgicided poster’s over-the-top obsession with slagging off on Andre Miller…

Marks is not an All Star. We get that. He’s a journeyman by virtue of his size; if he were 6’1" he’d be running a hotel in Rotorua or something… He’s seriously bad at some Center skills; he does other things pretty well (his jumper is MUCH better than Camby’s for example). He’s an aging 11th or 12th man forced into action and should not be getting ripped on the main page, in my opinion.

Wanna rip Babbitt? He’s fair game. He’s somebody’s idea of a 1st Round draft pick, taken as a shooter no less. But hands off Marks.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Dec 21, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I tend to agree about Sean Marks. He is who he is and that won't change; thus, I don't ...

need to bag on him constantly. I mean, heck, I’m all for waiving Marks and signing a productive big man from the D-League such as Courtney SIms or Sean Williams. Yet, so long as Marks is employed here and trying his best, that’s all we can expect from him.

"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."

by AK1984 on Dec 21, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

In regards to Babbitt, Portland has a confusing identity

especially now. I can’t say that a rookie (with more potential than proven skills)coming in, has a good platform to build from or leap off of. Could have been more established this year (considering the more veteran presence) but certainly hasn’t been.
  Now, for Babbitt coming in as a supposed compliment to Roy, and then the team having to literally dump that idea, would be difficult to adjust to with limited minutes.
   Is Babbitt a bust? Most will say yes…I can’t just yet. There is always hope for players with marginal talent, if they’re willing to learn, work hard and commit. He would likely benefit from having Monty here, because he looks to be a player that will need some one on one guidance. He needs to let them know he’s interested so they don’t give up on him.
  I’m assuming of course that the scouting on him was pro-active. In other words I hope there was plenty of “in the field” evaluation and not just from a statistical standpoint. (which given the background of their scouting directors could very well be) So it could be they simply thought they were getting a ‘statistical" shooter to appease Nate’s personal request.

"You play good defense and let your offense generate from that. You will find that success of your offense, is proportional to the extent of your defensive diligence." Jack Ramsey philosophy (it works)

by WyEast on Dec 22, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Just Ben

who is just trying to be funny… which fails, in my opinion.

by ItsMrHarris2u on Dec 21, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

"The Sean Marks highlight of the night (a new feature) "

Well great. I do agree that it is some kind of attempt at humor at a players expense, likely because the writer assumes that the target won’t be around for long. Reberto, Rudy, Marks et al.

 I know it may be hard to believe but I noticed several New Zealand posters become Blazersedge members after we picked up Marks. They gave their opinion about the “humor” and have not come back as far as I can tell.

I have always enjoyed the international makeup of the Blazer fanbase and enjoy reading their perspectives of not only basketball but life in general.

Sadly alot of them have seemed to have left.

by billy quizboy on Dec 21, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Splitting hairs perhaps but I don't think you were the only kiwi here

I do remember another poster that had a sliced kiwi as their avatar.

 A lot of what I learn about our international players and how they play the game comes from fans who are from their countries. What Pattys heritage is in Australia, Rudys basketball camp for kids back in spain, Nic and his international play and how big of a star he is there. Mostly this comes from fans of the player first and as Blazer fans second. It may be a trivial matter but knowing such things about them makes them more fun to watch .( especially if this is a team that is going to hover around .500 for the forseeable future)

As far as Marks goes well, All I have stumbled across about him here is that he might be some kind of poorly trained Satchsquach from south of the equator.

by billy quizboy on Dec 21, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

At least Marks is trying

I don’t get the whole “ragging on Marks” thing. Sure, the dude is a borderline NBA player, if he wasn’t, he wouldn’t have been available, eh? You’re not going to get All Star Caliber play out of the guy, but with the team decimated by injuries, he is at least busting his butt, which is all you can ask of him. I saw him make several nice defensive blocks and get a couple of tough boards.

by rhaegar on Dec 21, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Nate: "We can't go away from this. We won't go away from it."

Please.

Still complaining about the KP firing ??

If Oden does not give up on the Blazers, we should not give up on him.

by Berkeley on Dec 21, 2010 1:35 AM PST reply actions  

I'm way happy KP is gone

Really excited to see what Cho can do for us.

Enjoy the Ride

Blunt+Sharp

by DigitalDaggers on Dec 21, 2010 1:39 AM PST up reply actions  

What has he done?

Traded away bayless for nothing, ummm, that’s it! I’d rather not worry about the gm but the players. Aldridge and Wesley are the 2 best players on the team. Plain and simple!

FIRE NATE AND BLOW UP THE TEAM! (Save Aldridge and Matthews)

by easythere73 on Dec 21, 2010 2:26 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

The pick is SERIOUSLY protected -- I think through 14.

Bayless got flushed and he has been needed this year.

He traded Bayless for a first round pick which could end up being a lottery pick

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Dec 21, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Was Roy hurt when we traded Bayless?

If not, i’d argue that we did not need him. I don’t consider Bayless a pg by any stretch and as a SG i’d put Matthews and Rudy (sometimes) ahead of him. That makes him a 3rd maybe 4th stringer SG on this team. Roy’s knees now make me think we should have kept him though.

by hoodieNation on Dec 21, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Was there a reason to expect Brandon would miss time this year?

I would say very much so, based on his previous NBA seasons

when the trade was announced my take was “If Roy or Rudy is hurt, this deal will come back to bite the Blazers” and sure enough, in the month of November both Brandon and Rudy missed games (and Roy continues to miss them.) Meanwhile, Jerryd continues to improve in all areas of his game, and there have been many times (during the 6 and 4-game losing streaks) where Bayless’ ability to attack the defense and score could have made he difference between wins and losses

Who cares if he’s a “PG” or not? Up until recently the Blazers have struggled to score off the bench, and when the team faces tougher defenses, the reserves will
once again be in need of a battering ram like Rex to soften up the opposing frontcourt

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 21, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

The pick is not that protected

Top 7 protected for next draft; top-8 protected in 2012, 2013 and 2014.

Wiggada Wiggada Zers!

by Corvid on Dec 21, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

After that (unlikely)

It becomes 2 2nd round picks.

We should bring in more scrub big men; they make good curse fodder.

by dan_the_man on Dec 21, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

We should be happy for that tiny-armed me-first gunner, since he's on a crappy team in ...

Toronto that’ll let him hog the ball to his heart’s content. I feel that way about Martell Webster and Travis Outlaw, too, for Webster is on a crappy team in Minnesota that’ll give him playing time and Outlaw is on a crappy team in New Jersey that fattened his bank account.

"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."

by AK1984 on Dec 21, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Not really

Top 7 protected and Bayless has been awful this year everywhere but Toronto.

by MadBlaze on Dec 21, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

nothing really stupid, which is a good thing.

Way too soon to be complaining about Cho. Deals can have long consequences, due dilligence is warranted.
Oh, he was in the meeting before Roy took this little breather. So far, so good on that.
I’m sure the wheels are turning in the background.

If Oden does not give up on the Blazers, we should not give up on him.

by Berkeley on Dec 21, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

The KP firing looked great the second Oden and Roy went down again

It’s up to LMA to salvage what remains of KP’s reputation

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 21, 2010 7:10 AM PST up reply actions  

anybody catch Rudy's pass

on that LMA dunk over Bogut. Amazing. I was more blown away with the pass than the, certainly awesome, finish! Crazy

by inpresence on Dec 21, 2010 2:17 AM PST reply actions  

rudy and lma

have always had great on-court chemistry.

so happy to see them connecting on so many buckets recently!

Enjoy the Ride

Blunt+Sharp

by DigitalDaggers on Dec 21, 2010 2:26 AM PST up reply actions  

So no personal attacks??

It seems funny to me that just one day after the rules of the site were updated (reposted) that a personal attack happens. From one of the main guys no less! Wow. Great job sticking to your own standards blazersedge staff. I am referring to the Paul Allen bash. And yes it was a personal attack against mr. Allen but the writer will probably get away with it because they used fancy lingo to fool us simple folk. What a disgrace.

FIRE NATE AND BLOW UP THE TEAM! (Save Aldridge and Matthews)

by easythere73 on Dec 21, 2010 2:21 AM PST via mobile reply actions   3 recs

I thought Dave was pretty clear about making the distinction between how we treat the team and how we treat each other

Like the players, PA is a public member of the team. He is subject to scrutiny.

I haven’t been thrilled with how some of that scrutiny has been handled, but I think it is in accordance with site rules.

We should bring in more scrub big men; they make good curse fodder.

by dan_the_man on Dec 21, 2010 2:43 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

but then

You have Ben and Dave freaking out about quick’s article on Rudy. Which contextually you could easily see was opinion, but because it wasn’t highlighted it was an issue.

And so what is this media row report? A mix of actual quotes, conjecture, analysis (usually there is, to be fair though; not this time), and making fun of Marks and Babbit with none of it demarcated. I get and appreciate he’s not getting paid, but why even write this? What’s the motivation? Was I supposed to have learned something?

You're saying that they look like they're giving it their all. And you know why they look that way? Because they're bad, and it literally takes them the maximum physical effort to accomplish basic baseball tasks like throwing the ball from short to first. When David Eckstein throws the ball to first base, he has to wind up like a shot-putter, spin around forty-three times, and launch it at an angle 89 degrees from the horizontal. Afterwards, he undergoes an IV drip for a fortnight and he's so out of breath that he requires several months of acupuncture to regain the power of speech. For this we laud him. -Junior of Deadspin on 'scrappy' players

by TheOdenator on Dec 21, 2010 3:26 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Quick is in the public eye, just like the team

He’s basically fair game. If I wrote a fanpost that made Dave or Ben feel the same way, they wouldn’t call me out for being writing a crappy article, but they might disagree with me in the comments. That’s the difference.

I often disagree with Ben or Dave, either in content or style, but I don’t think that ridiculing public figures violates site rules. As far as Marks goes, I thought he did great tonight, considering who he is and what we should reasonably expect. As far as PA goes, I wouldn’t have handled the KP situation the way he did, but I’m not particularly bothered by it either. More than anything to me, it was just bad PR. In the end, we got the guy I was hoping for, Cho.

We should bring in more scrub big men; they make good curse fodder.

by dan_the_man on Dec 21, 2010 3:39 AM PST up reply actions  

To defend Dave and Ben a little bit

most of the freakouts over something Quick writes are due to the vast majority of the BE community that simply hates Quick or the Oregonian for being negative or not supporting the Blazers enough and channels that into absurd complaints about how guys writing recaps aren’t “supposed” to have opinions about the game, followed by praising how great Dave/Ben’s game recaps are, which are nothing but Dave/Ben’s opinions about the game. It’s really far more about taking sides for the BE population or seeking out what opinions that agree with their own than some worship of journalistic standards. For whatever reason, people cannot tolerate the idea that Roy and Andre may not be BFFs, but are completely cool with some jokes about Luke/Marks.

That being said, if Ben wants to publish this, fine, but as leeroy says below, his bullet about PA really just comes off like a whiny first-grader throwing a tantrum because Paul Allen won’t sit down with a “real, independent” media member like Ben who will really hold his feet to the fire (when has BE ever done this sort of hard-nosed combative interview, anyways?).

by Royster on Dec 21, 2010 7:36 AM PST up reply actions   4 recs

This sums it up well.

"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."

by AK1984 on Dec 21, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions  

^ That

Paul Allen is selling a product that he is very passionate about, not revealing his innermost secrets. He doesn’t do interviews—that’s just not his personality. Bagging on him for promoting his team is pedantic and criticising him for not granting interviews is downright silly. That’s his business.

chk yrslf bf u rec yrslf

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 21, 2010 10:31 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Paul Allen should absolutely be open to criticism

on this, or any front, he’s clearly mis-handled some organizational issues, but my issues with Ben’s paragraph here is that his criticism of PA has absolutely nothing to do with the Canzano incident at all.

It’s like if Mike Vick complained about concussions and someone wrote something like, “Oh, you think concussions are bogus, Mike Vick? You know what else is bogus? dogfighting. Why should we care what you have to say?”.

Or disagreeing with another poster and then digging through their year-old comments to find something unrelated they were once wrong about and shoving it in their face.

by Royster on Dec 21, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Right, it seemed odd for Ben to pointlessly drag back the carcass of Kevin Pritchard ...

into this discussion. Referencing how the firing of Pritchard was handled had nothing to do with the discussion at hand — which was whether or not John Canzano’s article had any veracity to it or Mike Barrett was just being a shill spouting the company line on behalf of Paul Allen — so I don’t get why that dead horse was poked with a stick. Plus, doing so just stirred the pot that is this comment section, which is already at a boiling point.

"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."

by AK1984 on Dec 21, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe KP is getting some love for all the times

he “leaked” stories to the local media.

witty statement here

by Escrote on Dec 21, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

It's like how Matt Hasselbeck is getting love from the Seattle media in spite ...

of him being a washed-up has-been. Like Hasselbeck, Kevin Prtichard was nice to the press and gets a free pass from the ’cause of it.

"They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory."

by AK1984 on Dec 21, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly.

#52--------I believe in Greg Oden

by annthefan on Dec 21, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree but
Paul Allen should absolutely be open to criticism

what does THAT mean exactly? Should PA slug out a few rounds on Canzano’s show? Should he grant an exclusive BEdge interview re: KP’s termination and the penny incident? What’s in it for PA to put himself in those situations? Would it help market the Blazers or aid in the atmosphere surrounding the team? IMO It would satisfy a few geeks and only give more fuel for Portland’s passive-aggressive media.

chk yrslf bf u rec yrslf

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 21, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I agree with

how stupid the pointlessly macho posturing from Ben about stepping in front of a “real, independent” interviewer here is. I think I phrased that poorly, though. Criticizing PA for flipping out on Canzano is completely fine in my book as long as it’s contextual, and the whole KP situation has absolutely nothing to do with this. If Nate took a job elsewhere and Paul Allen started whining about how it’s terrible that we live in a world where people would be so unethical to not fulfill their contracts, by all means, bring up the KP situation, but with this? Not so much.

I hate to keep going back to concussions, but if James Harrison starts complaining about how violent football is, people should absolutely bring up his history of dirty/borderline hits to mock him for it. If he’s complaining about being underpaid? Not so much.

by Royster on Dec 21, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Miller does that for him

 Larry animates well and PA doesn’t even move his lips.

"You play good defense and let your offense generate from that. You will find that success of your offense, is proportional to the extent of your defensive diligence." Jack Ramsey philosophy (it works)

by WyEast on Dec 21, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

I was warned twice

for “bashing” Brandon Roy. I believe Dave used the term “whiny [beep]” in that same posting. Not sure why the double standard.

(don’t ban me bro!)

by flyduckfly on Dec 21, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Here is another Paul Allen money story. He can debunk that too if he wants to. "My wallet is getting thinner!"

Already posted it in a junk drawer over a year ago.

Remember that when Ben recently wrote about potential money issues for Paul Allen and the Blazers I commented that Allen doesn’t always make the smartest business decisions and has been pretty tight with his money in the past because that’s not his character, and people in the Valley have quite different stories to tell about him and the Vulcans than Blazers fans?

Here is a nice little sidenote from the "This Week in Tech" podcast. It’s gossip, but knowing Paul a tiny bit I can see that happening. TWiT 187 "So Say We All", ca. minute 57.

(Lead in)
Jason Calacanis (serial entrepreneur and founder of Weblogs, Inc and Mahalo.com, gets caught playing on camera with a light saber): Sorry ‘bout that. I didn’t realize I was on camera. Somebody walked into my office and asked for a raise, whenever they do that I put the light saber on.

Leo Laporte (tech journalist, host and founder of This Week in Tech): You are asking for a raise, eh?

Jason: I find your lack of faith in your stock options disturbing.

Leo: (Laughter) That’s good.

Jason: You can use that Kevin (Rose). Next time Prager (a producer) asks for a raise, tell him ‘Your stock options are your raise. And Jay Adelson (at that time CEO of Digg and Revision 3) will be less forgiving than me’.

Leo: I’ll never forget my valuable TechTV stock options. We use them upstairs in the bathroom. (Note: The channel was bought by Vulcan in 2000, then going downhill from there through a series of downsizing rounds, restructuring and rebranding.)

Dan Patterson (BBC/ABC producer): Were people suing Paul Allen about that?

Leo: No, we went to a lawyer and we investigated, and there was no way out.

Dan: I heard a story from a source that they would have these meetings with Paul Allen at TechTV and they’d have to retell him everything that they told him the first time around and he like wouldn’t remember. And at one point Paul Allen stood up and he pulled his wallet out of his pocket and he held it up at this person who I shouldn’t name and he said ‘See this? It’s getting thinner!’

(Big laughter. Someone “No way!”)

Dan: I wish, if something like that had ever got out on a YouTube video it would have gone so viral.

Kevin Rose (founder of Digg and Revision 3): He had a series of bad investments in the past, right?

Leo: Oh, in the past? In the present. Charter is now in trouble. I think Charter declared Chapter 11.

Kevin: Doesn’t really matter though, I mean he’s got like a few billion in the bank. What does he care.

Leo: Right. And you should remember this. Skim just a little off the top every month, put that aside, and you never have to worry again. Ah, where were we…

by Norsktroll on Dec 21, 2010 3:47 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Whether or not a rule was broken, Ben comes off like a whiny first-grader here

And that sort of attitude certainly isn’t going to get PA to sit down anytime soon

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 21, 2010 7:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Email Dave directly.

If you have questions or concerns on moderating the best place to get them answered is from the horse’s mouth.

His email is posted at the end of each of his articles: blazersub < at > yahoo.com

He responds to those things, and is more than willing to talk about it.

"Love may forgive all infirmities and love still in spite of them: but Love cannot cease to will their removal." - C. S. Lewis, The Problem of Pain, 1940

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by T Darkstar on Dec 21, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I agree this is the way to go

but the biggest problem with this is that it doesn’t give people a public forum to understand what is allowed and what isn’t (and why) in these specific cases. Seems to me that easythere wants to shed light on this issue to see if others agree with him, and to get an understanding of the rules for everyone.

I

by joelor on Dec 21, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

i love that aldridge is rolling on pick and rolls

Michael Jordan is the Nicolas Batum of America
Andre Miller is da bomb; he is also the greatest thing since sliced bread and more american than apple pie
Hey Rudy! The spinning fade-a-way doesn't work!

by thomasikehara on Dec 21, 2010 3:36 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

agree 100%

Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.

by Net Ranger on Dec 21, 2010 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Me too

Did anyone noticed when Aldridge was being praised the camera rolled over to Buck Williams and the smile of an accomplishment said it all. My hat still goes off to LMA, but I also thank Mr. Buck Williams for coaching LMA.

hg

by BBK on Dec 21, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Been WAITING for this!

Thanks to Buck, and LMA, and everyone who explained the Pick n Roll to LMA a fifth time.

By the way, Buck, what’s with the bow tie?? You just hoping someone will laugh so you can get old school on ’em?

Wanted: A MEANER Blazer attitude! Knock somebody down and step on him!

The L*kers, The Heat, and The Thunder...the New AXIS of EVIL.

by CaptHustle on Dec 21, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I am so excited to see LMA's offense continue into the 4th quarter.

We really need his contribution. The guy has become the stud we all hoped for.

RenoMillerFan

by RenoBlazerFan on Dec 21, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Whoa, whoa, whoa, don't go defending Canzano for lying...it's not the first time

How Paul Allen chooses to act is a completely different issue. You reporters are so funny when someone won’t play along.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming…

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 21, 2010 7:00 AM PST reply actions  

And I just read the article, and it's horrible

What moves is the team going to make other than trading the vets for draft picks? He’s against firing Nate, so I wonder what he proposes? Trade a broken-down Roy for Lebron? John? Hello? Trade Camby for a vintage Michael Jordan?

Of course we’ll never know because Canzano doesn’t know enough about sports to get into specifics, only enough to cause unnecessary drama. If PA ’doesn’t have a clue’ how to execute a trade, then Canzano ’doesn’t have a clue’ how a trade even works. What a dimwit. (It’s ok to bash him and call him names, remember? He’s a ‘public figure’ …or however the rule works)

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 21, 2010 7:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Canzano

I’m getting really annoyed by Canzano’s “do something” articles.

Do exactly WHAT, Canzano? Just make some random trade for no apparent reason?

The bottom line is that the team is in a straitjacket due to Broy’s max contract.

The one thing they CAN do in the “do something” category is blow up the team, fill it up with low paid rookies, and aim for the next championship window which will be in the 2019-2020 time frame.

A case could be made for that. Hey, if that’s what you recommend, Canzano, go ahead and propose it. I say put up or shut up. Besides, what have you got to lose. Journalists are never held accountable for what they say, nobody cares much what they say to being with and nobody feels it’s worth the effort to look up what they said in the past and discover how stupid it was.

by LanceS on Dec 21, 2010 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with him and you

I mean I want something to be done. But who knows what that is? I trust in the process and I trust in the GM.

And I agree, we just can’t do something for the sake of doing something. If we do that we might as well sign Allan Houston and Latrell Sprewell and become the Knicks of the west.

by Haymon45 on Dec 21, 2010 8:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Please.

Do exactly WHAT, Canzano?

Canzano has been very specific: He says we need to make a “bold trade” ©. Only with a “bold trade” © can the blazers progress. We must make a “bold trade” ©.

“Bold Trade” ©

by NeverSummer on Dec 21, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Bitter man

I would make some disparaging remarks about Canzano’s parentage and follicular impairment, but as we are all trying to be tolerant here, I will just say that I strongly disagree with Canzano’s latest article. Making moves for the sake of making moves is the worst argument that I have ever heard, and I am just thankful that Cho has not stooped to that level yet. As for saying that Bob Whitsitt is someone to be emulated as a GM, well, that is such a ridiculous statement, that it stands on its own lack of merit, whether the penny story is true or not.

by rhaegar on Dec 21, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Bullseye.

PA isn’t required to do interviews, but Can’tzano should be required to check his facts, otherwise he’s just running a gossip column.

Ben’s anti-Allen bias is pretty transparent.

chk yrslf bf u rec yrslf

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 21, 2010 10:17 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Seriously

I take everything PA-related with a grain of salt from Ben, ever since his “piece” regarding draft night.

I

by joelor on Dec 21, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

This is how the team should've been playing for the last three seasons

I’m not going to get too excited by beating three crappy teams, but if the team keeps this entertaining play style and keeps giving this kind of effort, I could become a paying fan again someday – wins or losses be damned.

P.S. Sorry Brandon, you had your time. Send me a postcard!

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 21, 2010 7:03 AM PST reply actions  

Oh and LaMarcus could do this every night if he wanted to

It’s up to the coach, the front office, and his teammates to see that he doesn’t go back to 17 and 7

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 21, 2010 7:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Really, it's up to LA

If he keeps this up, they will keep calling plays for him. Coach has said as much.

by MadBlaze on Dec 21, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I was so close to just buying tickets yesterday

and driving 3 hours to watch the game in person. Now I wish I had.

I’ve been worried that I would show up at the garden and we’d go back to that ugly “basketball” that really is too hard on the eyes. Not worth the drive or the money to me.

by poorwebguy on Dec 21, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I haven't got that notion yet, either

Would take assurance that they actually get what it takes to be entertaining. (not to mention the proper approach to the game)
  of course they are not interested in luring in the country folk, let alone understanding the significance of entertainment value. As Leeroy says, it’s not a matter of whether you win or lose, it’s how you play the game. (socially disputed, of course) The latter being the building block to the future. I never bought in to the iso, pull up, half court system. Intangibly doomed for failure, because it is not sustainable. (as we now know well.)
  hope it never shows up again for this team. Plenty can be said for entertainment value, at least with this basketball fan.

"You play good defense and let your offense generate from that. You will find that success of your offense, is proportional to the extent of your defensive diligence." Jack Ramsey philosophy (it works)

by WyEast on Dec 21, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

"But coach, I'm tired"

“Boy, you’re going to play in this game until you set a career high. Oh, and on Friday? Same plan. You will play in every game until you set a new high in points, rebounds, or assists. No exceptions. Welcome to your new role.”

by jiminut on Dec 21, 2010 7:23 AM PST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I really try not to read Canzano. I really do. So why did I go there. These comments makes made me curious. Again I disagree with the guy. The team should have made a move. I don’t think anything out there at this time would have been right for us. Cho’s working the phones-that I thought was the biggest story this week. He should be, he is. Seeing what’s out there. Remember character?
Also the team’s broken? I know we just played a shorthanded Bucks, but we played how we should-great team ball with one guy putting up all-star numbers. Win for Cho, and win for Blazers.

by BBlazer on Dec 21, 2010 7:43 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

“I really try not to read Canzano. I really do. So why did I go there”

I read Canzano because I have no life. I am ashamed to admit I listen to his show quite a bit as well. Although there is nothing more satisfying than when he goes on vacation and guys who are interesting to listen to like Antonio fill in.

by LanceS on Dec 21, 2010 8:12 AM PST reply actions  

Honestly, it confounds me too. Marks (and Babbit for that matter) are at the end of the bench and only in the game because of a string of injuries. I’m not sure if Ben wants a whole extra set of max-contract starters sitting on the bench to replace Camby, Roy, Dante, ‘Billa, and Batum, but I’m pretty sure even he realizes that is not feasible.

Marks doesn’t have the skill, but he has the fire. No hate deserved. The tone taints the entire post, and comes out very dry in the shadow of defending Canzano… ugh.

by speakersPushAir on Dec 21, 2010 8:53 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

The tone taints the entire post, and comes out very dry in the shadow of defending Canzano.

This. Bugs the crap out of me. It’s not so much the idea of giving a ribbing to those guys, it’s the downright disrespectful tone in which it occurs. Dave is an absolute master of making these kind of jokes while remaining light-hearted about it.

I

by joelor on Dec 21, 2010 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Marks is pretty crappy though.

I mean, his attention to detail is far below Oberto’s to my eyes. His jump shot is better than Camby’s right now though.

chk yrslf bf u rec yrslf

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 21, 2010 10:22 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

And if you did miss it, no worries because he will be writing another one next week..
In case you missed it, John Canzano wrote another “do something!” column this weekend.

I’d prefer the phrasing: “There are two big losers in this story.”

There are no winners in this story and I don’t often come to the defense of those being assailed for not checking their facts.

Evidence?

You’re better than that, Mr. Allen.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Dec 21, 2010 8:45 AM PST reply actions  

word

tru dat

The tensions are so high because the stakes are so low!

by tylercomp on Dec 21, 2010 8:46 AM PST up reply actions  

pretty soon we have a novel

The script is being written for the book, but it will never make the big screen..Maybe a series on cable. What do they call it, The Soap Channel? Title of the new series ; The Basketball Spins Precariously on the Finger of Wealth.

"You play good defense and let your offense generate from that. You will find that success of your offense, is proportional to the extent of your defensive diligence." Jack Ramsey philosophy (it works)

by WyEast on Dec 21, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

The camera instant replay

caught the look on LMA’s Face after he posted Bogut was priceless. I never seen that mean motivated look from LMA before.

hg

by BBK on Dec 21, 2010 8:53 AM PST reply actions  

I don't mind that they left LA in the game to go for a career high.

Sure you could make the argument that it is a shallow reason to leave a guy in the game and needlessly risks injury but the NBA is such a reputation league. I think LA would get more calls. The refs would be like “this guy just put up 30-20… let him push off, hook guys, and shuffle his feet..” That is how the NBA works.

witty statement here

by Escrote on Dec 21, 2010 9:44 AM PST reply actions  

Yep...a new star is being born

After the 29 and 19 there was a ripple effect through sports media. It wasn’t big…yet. LMA just needs to keep knocking.

At some point, one of these monster games is going to put him over the top and the national media will start keeping a close eye on him. He’ll get superstar calls…blocks and foul shots…dominating will get even easier for Lamonster.

by poorwebguy on Dec 21, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

In Dallas, you child tell hubie and brown were impressed.

This Utah, denver, utah stretch could prove to be another turning point for him, one way or another

No one in the world can beat me at RBI baseball 3(nes).

by svlittle on Dec 21, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

good point

"You play good defense and let your offense generate from that. You will find that success of your offense, is proportional to the extent of your defensive diligence." Jack Ramsey philosophy (it works)

by WyEast on Dec 21, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

more than records, he needs the practice

For years we have been hoping for LMA to play like he has been playing, forcefully, in the paint, not just doing his long jumpshots. Finally he is getting there. If we find a game where that is working, he should stay there until the end.

by Rafael Figueira on Dec 21, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

"Not only did they go undefeated in Brandon Roy's absence"

I would say they went undefeated because of Brandon Roy’s absence.

by flyduckfly on Dec 21, 2010 10:18 AM PST reply actions  

Bogut most of the game

Bogut looked terrible on both ends though.

I

by joelor on Dec 21, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Drew Gooden took a few licks too.

He hard-fouled LMA across the wrists on a couple plays. Lamarcus then went on to make a few NBA poster makers very happy.

chk yrslf bf u rec yrslf

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 21, 2010 12:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

After seeing him up close in person, Gooden grew on me.

Not very athletic, but plays with some nastiness. He won’t beat you, but he’ll score rebound and make every foul count. Not a bad bench big

No one in the world can beat me at RBI baseball 3(nes).

by svlittle on Dec 21, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

YES

A Drew Gooden would be nice to have on the bench right now.

chk yrslf bf u rec yrslf

by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 21, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions  

young Juwan Howard

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 21, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Not impressed with the teams they beat but I am over how we won them

Even against bad teams this year, blazers had been getting the lead and then start playing with a trying not to lose approach. Like when a football team goes into a prevent defense. Lately they have continued to attack, moved the ball and worked the inside out game. Looks like a different team

No one in the world can beat me at RBI baseball 3(nes).

by svlittle on Dec 21, 2010 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

This Ben-ism keeps coming back and bothering me:
Try a non-scripted interview with any independent media member before complaining subliminally on a social network.

M’kay…My first question is: does the media actually think of itself as a credible filter of truth in this fine society of ours? I mean, if PA goes on Canzano’s show live and says “Yeah. That story isn’t true”, would it actually be more than him simply tweeting the exact same thing? Canzano said it, PA denied it. That pretty much covers it, right? What amount of hemming and hawing over the airwaves or blog-o-sphere is going to change any of that? Let’s face it, journalism aint about the truth, it’s about the tweet.

Secondly, do the so-called “independent” members of the media actually have a feeling of superiority over their Blazer-employed contemporary, Mike Barrett? Is there some sort of underlying resentment here? The way I see it: there’s no mystery—Barrett is a Blazer employee. He roots for the team unabashedly, and is going to be on board with the overall vision of the company. That’s pretty much what employees do, right? So what’s the problem? What—he’s supposed to grill PA about the KP firing before the season starts? Laughable. He’s doing his job. He’s a Blazer employee, so I keep that in mind and try to enjoy his commentary on the team through that lens. Transparent enough, right?

What ISN’T so transparent is who sign’s John Canzano’s checks. Indirectly, the advertisers. As long as he gets ratings, lights up phones, and can somehow prove people actually read print media anymore, he has air space to float his idiotic over-simplifications and tabloid-worthy gossip. Ok. Is THAT more credible than Barrett’s job? I say they’re both in the entertainment business, doing their respective jobs the best they can. Neither can say they are more credible than the other, one simply has a much more obvious chain of accountability, while the other is only accountable to advertisers.

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by Hipster Olympic Team! on Dec 21, 2010 2:20 PM PST reply actions   4 recs

I like this post a lot

But I do wonder: Is Canzano in the entertainment business? I don’t consider people who say absurd crap just to draw attention to themselves very entertaining at all, and I wonder what Canzano’s influence would be in an internet-less world. The internet has provided a unique platform where someone can spout something utterly ridiculous and it’s then easy for people to go see “the stupid stuff that so-and-so said” and be exposed to advertisements on the site, thereby perpetuating the absurdity.

That whole phenomenon drives me nuts and its one of those unique, unforseen ways that the net has manifested itself.

by NeverSummer on Dec 21, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Canzzano is on sports radio...

that was the internet before the internet existed

I'm a grown man stuck inside the mind of a 3 year old

by The Arkitect on Dec 21, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

True.

But speaking as someone who never listens to sports radio and yet occasionally clicks to Canzano on the internet, I’m wondering how much more influence does the internet confer, if at all?

I remember Canzano’s very first column. I skipped the mug shot and just started reading, assuming it was Chuck Culpepper (who I thought was awesome). It was a terrible piece about how Dennis Erickson should take the job at Kentucky, ostensibly because since he was the Oregon State coach that OSU would soon be under NCAA sanctions. It was the first of a now-typical formula: ridiculous, ill-reasoned crap designed to provoke. I never would have guessed then that Canzano would be as famous as he is now (especially following someone who had a sense of dignity, like Culpepper), and I wonder if internet traffic has a lot to do with that.

by NeverSummer on Dec 21, 2010 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

The internet has provided a unique platform where someone can spout something utterly ridiculous and it’s then easy for people to go see "the stupid stuff that so-and-so said" and be exposed to advertisements on the site, thereby perpetuating the absurdity.

Dwight Jaynes and Steve Duin used to do the same thing as Oregonian sport’s columnists

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 21, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

the Oregonian was "the" source of Blazer info in the '70-80s (along with radio--Schonz)

the Journal (while it lasted) didn’t have nearly as wide of a distribution; Pasero was the superior sports writer

So yeah, what the columnists wrote was discussed around the proverbial water cooler, and they tried to shape fan opinion and create controversy to sell fishwrap

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 22, 2010 9:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know why Matthews loves the Heat’s chicks

If he’s a Blazer, he should be 100% Blazer.
Oh…heat checks.
Never mind.

Romance me with that Roy rainbow shot which took flight from way beyond the arc and sailed so high that before it came back down to earth sealing the victory, it kissed the rafters and said "You're mine baby."

by Blazer1342 on Dec 21, 2010 7:18 PM PST reply actions  

The media

I have noticed this time and time again. The media does not tolerate being criticized well at all. For Ben to reach back and pull out Paul Allen’s behavior at the draft as a reason to attack the credibility of his response to what Barrett and Canzano wrote is pretty weak.

by Pax on Dec 21, 2010 7:22 PM PST reply actions  

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