Leadership and Roy

by bklynblazr on Dec 17, 2010 8:07 AM PST

Quick article from Sept about Roy/Miller being on the same page: "Said Roy: "You know, last year I would say I was kind of spoiled and I wanted things to be my way, whereas now I'm a little more understanding that I have to help change on the court to help him fit more, too. It can't just be 'How can everybody help Brandon."'

What happend to all that "I want to be a better leader" stuff? Brandon went to a psychologist in order to learn how to be exactly that; a Leader. Leaders are formed when times are tough. It's easy to "lead" a team when things are going well. I have loved BRoy, but I am getting sick of these flip flopping comments. One minute he's talking about reaching out to others and learning how to work without the ball more, the next he's asking for things to return to the way they were two years ago. One minute he's saying he had watched Miller's game last season when Roy missed 14 games and was learning how they could play together, and the next he is complaining about the surrounding personnel and calling Miller (although not directly) a "slow guy". LEADERS do not behave this way.

Forget the fact that right now Brandon is simply not a player who should be demanding that the rest of his team conform to his playing style (very very sad, but painfully true).... even when he was healthy, the team only got so far with his preferred style... WAS ONLY GOING TO GET SO FAR with his preferred playing style. his lack of acceptance of this fact is incredibly frustrating.
Maybe BRoy was never a good Leader. Maybe there's a difference between being the best player on the team, being a Star... and being a real Leader. Maybe we're just really seeing that now.

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They say you see a person's true colors when the chips are down

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Dec 17, 2010 8:31 AM PST reply actions

Or is it you have to put chips down to see a person's true cards?

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Dec 17, 2010 8:39 AM PST up reply actions

Anyone see this juicy nugget in Abbot's Truehoop?

On top of that, Roy is in the first-year of a five-year, $82.3 million contract extension. And sources say his knees are not insured.

definitely the worst contract in the NBA… oh well at least it is not my money. I am wondering though at what point Paul Allen throws his hands up and cuts his losses and just make a team like the Clippers so that it doesn’t gush money.

witty statement here

by Escrote on Dec 17, 2010 8:38 AM PST reply actions

Does that mean PA is gonna make like Donald Sterling and start shouting at Brandon during games?

“HEY BRANDON— WHY ARE YOU STILL PLAYING?!?!”

“WHY DID YOU TAKE THAT SHOT?!?!?”

“YOU’RE SLOW!!!”

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Dec 17, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions

lol... that would be fun to watch

I just don’t see it happening though.

witty statement here

by Escrote on Dec 17, 2010 8:42 AM PST up reply actions

i am tired of listing to this guy cry

he should have never came back early to play in the playoffs he just messed his knee up further…. I am not mad at him i am more pist off at the organization they dropped the ball they let him come back and full well knew his knees weren’t good hence why they couldn’t insure them when they gave him his contract who does that???? i mean atleast with the greg oden debockel the insurance paid most of that same with miles… there just doing bad business… there’s always a escape goat

by Canthus90 on Dec 17, 2010 10:17 AM PST reply actions

Best news of the day!

Troy (Portland)
Blazers have to move Roy, but how? What could they get in return?

Ric Bucher (1:49 PM)
Don’t know what they could get. But I can tell you 7 or 8 teams already have called to find out.

witty statement here

by Escrote on Dec 17, 2010 10:54 AM PST reply actions

... bad contracts usually only go for another bad contract :-(

Ruudster

by Ruudster on Dec 17, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions

Carter and Gortat

for Roy and Camby?

by darkhelmit54 on Dec 17, 2010 10:58 PM PST reply actions

Thank you for stating what should be obvious but is not! rec

by LloydPTB on Dec 18, 2010 9:18 AM PST reply actions

Wow!

The criticisms of Brandon Roy are based on a presumed knowledge of a person’s character and not on a impartial assessment of the basketball talent or basketball I.Q.

When you’ve been repeatedly told to exercise leadership, when you’ve been given a long term, lucrative contract, and when you’ve played hurt, I think it would be natural to believe that you’ve earned and are expected to give input to the efforts of the team. So here are some comments that might be useful to better assess Roy’s, and the Blazer’s situation.

1. The Blazer’s have known about Brandon’s knees and the brutal early season schedule since before training camp. Yet it didn’t seem that there was any credible game plan to accommodate either. (FYI: Popovich’s staff held a special coaching meeting to address how to deal with Duncan’s limited yet still considerable talents—and look at the results!)

2. Watching the game last night we saw the speed of Mills, Fernandez, Matthews, and Aldridge continually punish the Wolves. Speed.

3. While watching the game most of the players that had a chance to through the ball into the post to Aldridge did: except Miller—twice (out of five) he turned down the chance.

4. Nate wanted to put Miller in but Mills (foiled?) got fouled and Nate decided to go the distance with Mills. Was it because Mills was faster? Not worse on defense? For once Nate trusted a young player.

5. The blazer’s won but how much better might they have done had they not continually begin their offense by moving away from Aldridge.

6. If the blazer’s need to change then I think we’ve seen what direction it might go. Brandon can fit better in a speed lineup because he can shoot from all distances, but Miller can’t.

Roy sees this and that’s why he’s commented on it. People shouldn’t confuse their disappointment with Roy’s conduct. If his conduct was so outrageous then he’d have been disciplined. And if Roy’s “knee” is really a disciplinary act by the team then shame on McMillan and Allen for heaping on Roy what was their responsibility: finding a way to get the team to perform together and well.

by 7677maniac on Dec 18, 2010 11:53 AM PST reply actions

well...

i dont really see his behavior as ourtrageous, just disappointing.
and it wasnt my intention to get into a whole Roy vs Miller debate. it was more about how Roy, whom i really have loved, is struggling right now in the leadership department. yes, i agree with you…. he can comment on anything he wants. he was essentially put in that position as a rookie, and he has earned that right with his play over the past few years. but the manner in which he is commenting is divisive. it is passive aggressive and, i would imagine, deflating for the team. Leaders know better.
All my opinion of course….

I'd still honk once!

by bklynblazr on Dec 18, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions

More of the same, worn out judgement...

…of a fine young man you really know nothing about. Your only insight into Brandon Roy comes from self-serving, drama seeking “journalists” and from televised or recorded interviews that are not only edited but that Brandon is just not very good at.

Sad, unfeeling turn of events from some “fans”.

GO BLAZERS!!!

by Ilikeemall on Dec 18, 2010 4:08 PM PST reply actions