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Hollinger on Roy/Dre

Roddy (Portland (OR)) Do you think it would be smart for Brandon Roy to just come off the bench? And who should the Blazers go after with the DPE? I would trade Rudy along with it and get maybe Landry or is it possible to land David Lee with other players included? Something needs to happen and soon. John Hollinger (1:11 PM) That's what Roy doesn't get -- he's complaining about "personnel", which really means "Andre Miller", but Miller is playing so much better than he is, that if one of them has to go to the bench it isn't gonna be Miller. As far as the disabled player exception, don't hold your breath. It doesn't change much for Blazers, because they still need to make an offer another team will accept. And you sure as heck aren't getting David Lee out of it. Maybe, if you're really lucky, you can get Marcin Gortat.

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It's funny

right before I read this I was working on this:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=23qg8gk

in addition to joel and andre and our exceptions we’d lose a draft pick or two. I agree with hollinger that andre has been making necessary adjustments to play in the blazers system, and he has been playing amazing individual ball too, but he still doesn’t have an outside shot.

by blaze-on on Dec 15, 2010 1:25 PM PST reply actions  

That was my post....thanks for putting it up.

He’s always been a big supporter of Portland and I have had the chance to have a beer with him (he like our Micros and Thai food), so I thought he might bite on that question.

by BlazerRoddy on Dec 15, 2010 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

Folks just don't get it

Roy doesn’t like playing with Andre because Andre is a jerk and Roy wants to win championships, not just spin his wheels while Andre draws another paycheck. Roy would be playing at an all star level if Cho would just get off his butt and get some real players around Roy.

Rich Cho is the Margaret Cho of GM's.

by tominhawaii on Dec 15, 2010 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

all star level

dinasour type of guys choir boys

by mittsabishy on Dec 15, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions  

where does the hate come from?

I can sense Dre hate eminating from you on a visceral level…

"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man

by PDXBuckeye on Dec 15, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

If you're not watching that many Blazer games

then honestly, why are you hanging around Blazersedge?

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Dec 16, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I have a life outside fo the internet

That’s why I said your “internet life” rather than your “life.”

And if you don’t care if it’s funny, then it’s just old-fashioned boorishness. Congrats.

by Marvin100 on Dec 17, 2010 2:33 AM PST up reply actions  

lol

Like 5% of the comments on this blog are well thought out. Why must I be held to higher standards than everyone else?

Rich Cho is the Margaret Cho of GM's.

by tominhawaii on Dec 16, 2010 1:43 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

I don't troll

I hate Miller and I express my opinion. If I’m a troll than everyone that wants Nate fired is a troll and everyone who calls Aldridge soft is a troll.

Rich Cho is the Margaret Cho of GM's.

by tominhawaii on Dec 16, 2010 1:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Andre is the frosting on a turd

Even if I didn’t hate Miller, he’s not an all star, he’s not a championship point guard, and the Blazers will never win anything with him as the starting point guard. I can care less if he’s the best thing going on this team. He’s still a jerk and the team is still going no where with him as the starting point guard.

Rich Cho is the Margaret Cho of GM's.

by tominhawaii on Dec 16, 2010 1:41 AM PST up reply actions  

And what crap does Andre have to put up with?

If he’s reading this blog and my comments then he’s even dumber than I though. He shouldn’t care what some random fan in Hawaii thinks of him. It’s not like Jason Quick is telling him what I say about him on this blog.

Rich Cho is the Margaret Cho of GM's.

by tominhawaii on Dec 16, 2010 1:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe you should get some help with that.

Seems to me that Miller has been willing to do what it takes to make the TEAM better, while Roy is only interested in making HIMSELF LOOK better. And in the process makes himself look childish, selfish and foolish. I loved Roy’s game as much as anyone else, but the fact is, he has to change the things he does to be effective.

by blazinagain on Dec 15, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Roy is making you look bad.

you have to hate him now too or you’re just a hypocrite.

by hoodieNation on Dec 15, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Why would I care if I came off as a hypocrite

It’s the freaking internet. I’m on whatever side that is against Miller.

Rich Cho is the Margaret Cho of GM's.

by tominhawaii on Dec 16, 2010 1:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Did Andre sleep with your girlfriend Tom

Your assertions are not only ridiculous, they’re without merit. I guess Andre was the cancer that lead Mid Major Utah to the NCAA championship game right? I mean, it’s not like him being a Wooden Award finalist had anything to do with that team’s success – it was all Michael Doleac. And I guess that doesn’t mean anything because it wasn’t the NBA right Tom? I mean, the NCAA only has 350 teams and much biggest powerhouse programs.

If it wasn’t darned ’ol Andre, they would have won it. In fact, they probably would have been Kentucky 75-4.

by zeusmith on Dec 15, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm married, but she has way better taste than to sleep with a jerk like Andre Miller

Unlike Andre Miller, I’m not coasting off of some accomplishment from over 10 years ago. His greatest accomplishment in the NBA was NBA All-Rookie First Team. Brandon Roy is an All Star and the reason the Blazers are no longer called the Jail Blazers. Andre Miller is declining and a chemistry killer. I am not going to jump on his bandwagon no matter what he does.

Rich Cho is the Margaret Cho of GM's.

by tominhawaii on Dec 16, 2010 1:52 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

You're living in the past, Tom

If the Blazers somehow were able to unload Miller and bring back all of Roy’s sidekicks (Martell, Blake, Trout, Bayless, etc.), Roy would still be completely ineffectual. Did you watch last night’s Blazers-Mavs game? Brandon Roy is dragging his left leg around the court like it’s an anchor. Sadly, his days as an NBA player—even an NBA role-player—appear numbered.

Andre Miller isn’t the problem. But Roy’s denial—and yours—require a scapegoat to explain his decline.

I still believe in Greg Oden. The Blazers' medical staff? Not so much.

I'd change my handle to "bringback'09," but I'm too lazy.

by hurryup09 on Dec 16, 2010 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I was sleeping, will watch the game in about 4 hours

I’m not living in the past. I know Roy is hurt. Just because Roy is hurt, doesn’t mean I gotta start liking Miller. This team was as close as the Waltons before he became a Blazer and now they’re as divided as the McCourt family.

Everyone else is in denial. The best game the Blazers played this year was the game that Miller was suspended.

by tominhawaii on Dec 16, 2010 8:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Correction...

Brando Roy WAS an all star

We shall overcome

by DRock 4 Blazers on Dec 16, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a way for Tom to keep making every few threads all about him.

Good old fashioned internet narcissism, like the kid who acts out in class because nobody gives him attention at home.

by Marvin100 on Dec 17, 2010 2:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't care what anyone says Tom, I like your posts

Not for the substance, but because this site becomes a dark place very easily and you bring consistent levity…thank you

"If I had a dime for every basket I made today, you'd still suck!" - from the book 'John Dies @ the End'

by sammymohawk on Dec 17, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Play Roy 48 a night.

It will get us a better draft pick and allow us to medically retire him sooner.

witty statement here

by Escrote on Dec 15, 2010 1:57 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

too soon

Phase 1: Collect underpants
Phase 2: ???
Phase 3: Profit!

by HailOden! on Dec 15, 2010 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

what is too soon?

I believe D-Miles was retired for basically the same thing… of course that blew up in our face.

witty statement here

by Escrote on Dec 15, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I think we should make Roy the GM

Let him surround himself with hand-picked players and see how it goes. He’s been doing it passive-aggressive style since he came here, might as well give him the keys.

by superfly05 on Dec 15, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

nice recognition of "passive-aggressive" possibility

If Oden does not give up on the Blazers, we should not give up on him.

by Berkeley on Dec 15, 2010 10:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed. You genius!

I still believe in Greg Oden. The Blazers' medical staff? Not so much.

I'd change my handle to "bringback'09," but I'm too lazy.

by hurryup09 on Dec 16, 2010 7:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd like to see Roy demand a trade

I just think it would be a funny situation.
Funny depressing, but funny.

volatilelyle.wordpress.com

by almost awesome on Dec 15, 2010 3:46 PM PST reply actions  

lol...

what would the GM say?

“We tried to give you away for a bag of peanuts but there were no takers”

witty statement here

by Escrote on Dec 15, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

we release you from your contract !

Go sign with a team that appreciates you !

If Oden does not give up on the Blazers, we should not give up on him.

by Berkeley on Dec 15, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

That doesn’t make sense though… unless the new CBA allows you to take guys off of the cap when you buy them out.

witty statement here

by Escrote on Dec 16, 2010 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm feelin' pretty unhappy with the CBA lately,

Some of it seems ridiculous to me, particularly the minimal performance clauses. For that kind of money, you need to deliver. No wonder they want changes.

If Oden does not give up on the Blazers, we should not give up on him.

by Berkeley on Dec 16, 2010 6:09 PM PST up reply actions  

We need shooters

the whole problem right now is spacing

by CaptainSexyJacob on Dec 15, 2010 3:59 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah.

What do you think the problem is?
Rudy and Batum were automatic from 3 last year, same with Wes…
Do you think it’s mental? Half of hitting the shot is mental. Maybe the coaching is affecting it.

by CaptainSexyJacob on Dec 15, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I can only imagine being Roy from being a players player to what he is now..I think no matter what happens in part what we are seeing and hearing from him is frustration…..

by Danvegas on Dec 15, 2010 6:20 PM PST reply actions  

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