Is Portland Media Hicksville?
No, I'm not talking about Ben or Dave. Whom despite the occasional disagreement, I think do a fantastic job. But the recent struggles of The Blazers and the ensuing reaction of a lot of the Non-Blazer Broadcasting related local media really have me wondering. Is Portland Media Hicksville?
I have no idea whether I'm sophisticated...and maybe that admission answers the question...I'm probably closer to Joe The Plumber than James Bond.
Aspects of being a Blazer fan I have long enjoyed have included what I think is a rabid and passionate fanbase. I like the fact that often we overreact. That indifference to the team is a state that seldom develops. I bristle and obsessively defend when ever anyone suggests that Portland and Portland fans are provincial or unsophisticated. I disagree venemously.
But lately, I think the fanbase has been let down by a portion of the local media. Without going into details that this post isn't about, the team is struggling right now. Certain individuals on the team are struggling and facing new developments. I think the franchise, and the team are approaching a crossroads and in a state of flux.
How have a lot of the major local media figures reacted? IMO shamefully Hicksville.
Now don't get me wrong. Another aspect I enjoy about being a Blazer fan IS the wealth of coverage we are blessed with as Blazer fans. Blazer productions, sites like Blazers edge, and The Oregonian, Tribune and The Columbian as well as other individual fan sites and blogs...offer a fans bounty of coverage...and I appreciate it. I enjoy it.
But out of these recent struggles some primaries, some figureheads of local media coverage IMO have shown their worst sides. Instead of clear concise reporting, or even rational and founded opinion, we've been met with unfounded innuendo and a high degree of sensationalism.
Without naming names...because if you know, you'll know who I am talking about, we've been met with stories and reports and opinion that instead of focusing on the realities of the team or actual statements from players, are more focused on stirring up the flames of trouble from the embers of adversity and change. I feel too often like local media is handing me a pitchfork and a torch and telling me to riot....and I don't like to be manipulated.
Stories about "Evil Vulcan Spies". Premature proclamations that McMillan has lost the team. And Brandon Roy, now wears a medic alert necklass to practices so that if he falls he can tell everyone he has fallen and can't get up.
And now a future "Hall of Famer" journalist is blogging about the Mental stability of Brandon Roy. Describing Brandon as the N.B.A. equivalent to television detective Monk...or worse...
IMO...we as a fanbase are too sophisticated for the drivel that is being fed us! We've been let down by a local media that seems to think we NEED or want The Blazers to be a soap opera.
I won't kill the messenger, and I understand that sometimes bad news is simply bad news. But when you get innuendo and inflammatory speculation at the level we seem to be getting it? I think the Portland Fanbase has outgrown some of the local media. We aren't Hicksville...but a lot of the local media are acting like THEY are...
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…but I’d call it Hacksville. I come from Hicksville and the media is nowhere near as inflammatory there.
by Nate McMillan's Suit on Dec 14, 2010 10:37 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Let me say the name for you....
JOHN CANZANO. Yes, he does absolutely suck. The directions he goes are completely unneccesary and he acts as if we are the ones with the problem. He preys on the naivete of this town. I wish people would stop tuning in and supporting his BS. If you have a legit story to tell John, tell it. If you are just being an a-hole, blowing something up 10x bigger than it needs to be, then acting as if everyone else has a problem, please sit down and shut up. I suggest we create a “Deuchiest Person in Portland” award. We should then show up on his porch with megaphones, knocking on the windows and waking Anna up to take pictures with her and the award, multiple days in a row. Then when John acts as if there is a problem, we will all say, “you’re the one with a problem John, this award is for you! How can you turn this award down? You are so small minded!”
Outside of that, I do think the Blazers are media hicksville in some ways. The local guys are always feeding sunshine and damage control. Someone just tell the truth please!
Watching Boise State’s fans this year, I have been emberassed for them. For the most part, they do not know anything outside of their little world….I would say it’s worse than it is here, but our “rivalry” with the Lakers is one to us and a joke to them. I think Blazer fan needs to realize, it truly is a joke to them……and it would be to us if the roles were reversed.
Let’s get some perspective guys and quit acting like the local media guys are gospel. Come to your own conclusions and demand better than blind faith.
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by loyal_blazer on Dec 14, 2010 10:42 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
BTW Rec Krang
for asking good questions!
Trail Blazers Check List Since 2007:
1. Hire new Training Staff based on restoring symmetry to physical body.
2. Replace Nate MicMillan with coach with proven success at highest level.
3. Develop LMA's handles until he becomes Kevin Durant 0.8
by loyal_blazer on Dec 14, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions
Canzano is bad, but...
John Lund is the equivalent to Canzano’s evil little step brother who feels like he has to “outdo” his older bro in sensationalism to fit in to the new house.
Although Canzano feeds on the fear and pessimism of the Portland sports community, at least he is not a bigot while he does so. Lund is not only just as bad as Zano but he does so in an absolutely sexist, ignorant ranting way that makes me ill.
by Buckwill on Dec 14, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
My beef with Canzano
is that he’s so completely utterly boring.
Even when he’s trying to stir things up he’s tedious. I don’t read his pieces and it has worked out pretty well, try it sometime!
When the team struggles the Portland media rush in to make the story about themselves. Quick, Jaynes, Canzano- any and all of them. Too bad Brian Smith went to Utah.
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by pixelpusher on Dec 14, 2010 11:33 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Jaynes and Canzano need to go.
Canzano is a hack and a cheap shot artist. The worst yet is that hatchet job he did on Greg Oden two days after the microfracture announcement. After that column, I was tempted to borrow a page from Larry Flynt’s playbook and hire a PI to get dirt on Canzano.
Jaynes is a blowhard with remarkably bad taste in ties. I swear to God he reads the BEdge and OLive comment section to find the most vociferous, cult-like faction of fans and panders to them to keep himself relevant. Every time certain criticisms flare up on those sites Jaynes writes a column that says the same thing. I doubt he’s ever had an original thought in his life.
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by Benjamanic on Dec 14, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
A Hypothetical Islamic attack
on Americans is justified as retribution for the opening of a Starbucks and a Kentucky Fried Chicken next to a sacred religious site in Yemen.
Never mind that the Yemenis that frequent those businesses, and keep the doors open w/ their discretionary spending, are, by and large, Muslims.
So,
I don't think it's just the Portland media
You get innuendo and speculation from national writers as well. It’s a side effect of the internet: having a lot of page views has become more and more important, and good old-fashioned journalism — you know, the kind that’s based on more than one credible source — has taken a hit.
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I feel too often like local media is handing me a pitchfork and a torch and telling me to riot….and I don’t like to be manipulated.
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We’ve been let down by a local media that seems to think we NEED or want The Blazers to be a soap opera.
Seasons are long, building a team is even longer. There is no easy route, there is no path absent of adversity. If you don’t have the patience or devotion to follow a small market non-contender, if you expect playoff wins and a championship within a few years (seeing that as THE reason for your devotion, not a bonus for toughing out the rough), if you cannot learn to enjoy the ride, the Blazers are not your team. Fickle fans always make me angry – go root for the Lakers. All you who stay on the bandwagon with me, lets calm down and try and support our team unconditionally through this rough patch, just like we would be supporting them if they were undefeated. If changes are needed and are made, so be it, but those decisions are not our decisions and not our problem. We are not decision makers – we are fans.
I am all for ousting those tired media voices (tired and old no matter how long they have actually had that job – some have pushed it from day one), as IMO they have out-stayed their welcome. I do not read that drivel, and I invite you (like the OP did) to not tune into that dog excrement on any regular basis (and when you do, to take violent exception to their giant stirring ladle – this pot isn’t big enough for them)
by Sir.Ludo on Dec 14, 2010 12:04 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
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Is Portland Media Hicksville?
In a word, yes. Case in point, the latest histrionic post from Perez Hilt… I mean Jason Quick….
Although Roy didn’t mention names, he is clearly frustrated with his backcourt pairing with Miller. Roy wants to be surrounded by shooters like former teammates Steve Blake and Travis Outlaw, who gave him space to penetrate and create. Miller, although extremely effective and smart, frustrates Roy because he struggles with his outside shot, allowing teams to play off him and more easily trap Roy.
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by dario argento on Dec 14, 2010 2:34 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Histrionic?
I do not understand how Quick’s paraphrase of what Roy himself has said is histrionic. So far as I can determine, his report that you quote above is an accurate summary of Roy’s views. If that’s the case, then the histrionics belong to Roy, not Quick. I think it’s important to differentiate between the accurate reporting of unpleasant things we don’t want to hear but are nonetheless true from unwarranted inferences that further conflict rather than clarify it.
In general, I find that Quick’s comments fall more into the former category and Canzano’s into the later.
by Trutherlizer on Dec 15, 2010 1:03 AM PST up reply actions
I like the blazers and hope the tickets go down so I can go more...
Not that I want them to lose, it just seems every year around now we have these type of talks. I still like my hometown team, The Main one portland has to offer and I root for them no matter who is in the jersey regardless of what anyone says, period.
We are a soap opera
This is what you get when your team is playing poorly and your path to success has been derailed. Good teams get the elevator bad teams get the shaft.
"You play good defense and let your offense generate from that. You will find that success of your offense, is proportional to the extent of your defensive diligence." Jack Ramsey philosophy (it works)
The times they are a changin'
Krang, I have no idea how old you are, but I’ve definitely seen changes in journalism over the years. TV news has become little more than sound bites. Radio news has all but disappeared. Newspaper coverage mixes fact with opinion. The internet has trumped all with everyone able to express opinions to the world about things of which they know little.
Opinions should be formed by facts, but it’s hard to know what the facts are nowadays because we get opinions fed to us as facts. It used to be that we would know which was which because in the world of journalism there was straight reporting which was based on fact and primary sources. There was also opinion which appeared only in columns. The news reporters were not columnists. Reporters dealt in facts, the columnists in opinion. In sports, the game stories were the facts. Here is what happened in the game. There was no conjecture or innuendo as to why a team did what they did. We were presented with the facts and allowed to form our own opinion. Columnists expressed their opinions explaining why they felt the way they did – presenting facts to back up their theories.
The news reporters were not columnists. Reporters dealt in facts, the columnists in opinion
Jaynes and Canzano are (or were, in Dwight’s case) columnists, they get paid for writing their opinions by the inch. Why anyone expects them to play the Blazers (or any topic) down the middle is beyond me; they’re here to entertain and when they stop being relevant they’ll be replaced. (Which is why they’re branching out to become radio/TV personalities)
The real journalistic problem is that beat writers like Quick and Freeman want to get into the columnist act and become a part of the story, as well. It’s tough to sell fishwrap online, and there are plenty of bloggers who also write well and are receiving more access to the team
Today’s media rule #1: never let the facts get in the way of a good rant that stirs up controversy
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
If the facts don’t fit the theory, change the facts.
Albert Einstein
This was Al’s way of telling us that without imagination you may never uncover the truth. Now the real truth is the product on the floor…so get to it Brandon. You play some ball and we will only judge you by what we see and not what we hear.
"You play good defense and let your offense generate from that. You will find that success of your offense, is proportional to the extent of your defensive diligence." Jack Ramsey philosophy (it works)
It might be an urban legend that Einstein actually said this quote
This quote is widely attributed to Einstein on popular websites. But those who study sources have not found that he actually said this.
some things are implied (or applied)
to people’s character . I believe this was a tag by people who didn’t accept some of his more controversial theories. Einstein did believe that it was necessary to change the rules in order to give his (and others) theories the freedom to prove themselves. He himself, retracted some controversial theories when they could no longer refuted the original or previous belief (if there was one) It’s more a statement of un-bottling your imagination. Whether tag or quote, this is Einstein all the way.
"You play good defense and let your offense generate from that. You will find that success of your offense, is proportional to the extent of your defensive diligence." Jack Ramsey philosophy (it works)
That being said
I think Jayfish means that it isn’t fair to quote people on things they didn’t actually say (good or bad).
If Einstein never actually said it, then that would be the quoter un-bottling the imagination :)
Holding out for Hedo
I get it
I’m not quoting Einstein, when I choose to draw freely upon my imagination.
although I do think it is reasonable to attribute this quote to him because of the relationship of string theory physics to Einstein’s Theory of Relativity.
String theory is a developing theory in particle physics that attempts to reconcile quantum mechanics and general relativity.
All string theory models are quantum mechanical, Lorentz invariant, unitary and contain Einstein’s General Relativity as a low energy limit.47 Therefore to falsify string theory, it would suffice to falsify quantum mechanics, Lorentz invariance, or general relativity.48 Hence string theory is falsifiable and meets the definition of scientific theory according to the Popperian criterion.
string theory was adopted by Einstein and other physicists (beyond the standard model) and it still today is ever evolving and equally controversial.
The theory has yet to make testable experimental predictions, which a theory must do in order to be considered a part of science.
I realize the quote is likely contextual as in behavioristic interpretation , but could be attributed to Einstein based on his adoption of string theory physics.
so if you have a quote that doesn’t fit the criteria change the criteria…
it was fun, later
"You play good defense and let your offense generate from that. You will find that success of your offense, is proportional to the extent of your defensive diligence." Jack Ramsey philosophy (it works)
Canzano does what he does to get reactions like this
Or any reaction at all, really. Like Glenn Beck, if we talk about him, he wins (and The Game and The Oregonian). Just listen to the intro for his show.
I love being a Blazers fan and I love this city, but Simmon’s take on Blazers fans has some truth. We are hyper-defensive and perhaps a little misdirected in some of our attachments.
I really believe that Canzano plays his lack of attachment to the Blazers, and some of his laughable angles up so it becomes us against him. Like anyone in media or entertainment he’d rather be a bad guy than a nobody.
The problem is, in this (one horse, with apologies to the WinterHawks) town, and with the depth of the fanaticism (which, I should add, is almost always a good thing), he really accomplishes what he has set out to do, because, let’s face it, it’s probably a little easier here. However, I imagine most markets have a sports writer/talker like this, and know of a few.
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This is something I agree big time on. 2 years ago I loved reading headlines about the Blazers but now it’s becoming a manipulating party for them.
They are just poor and not needed. They lost my attention a long time ago.
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by brandonmitchell on Dec 14, 2010 9:00 PM PST reply actions
Most local news is hicksville.
There was a story on local Fox about a tagger committing vandalism on some commercial buildings. Seriously? This is news? Local news has trouble finding local stories, so most cities’ news channels have to really dig for stuff. That’s why it comes off as hicksville.
by wheresBlazerBill on Dec 14, 2010 9:48 PM PST reply actions
This is why I only get my Blazer news here
Before I learned of the awesomeness that is Blazersedge, I got my Blazers news from The Oregonian and Dwight Jaynes, and frequented to Oregonlive Blazer forum. After finding Bedge, I still went back to those to “learn” some things about the Blazers, but as I spend more and more time here, I realize how much higher quality the reporting, analyzing, and commenting is here. I have not got to either of those sites in over a year, and I don’t even read the game previews in the paper anymore. The other sites are just useless junk, it is either sub par facts and stats, or fear mongering. I for one am proud that I have made my thoughts of the quality of their work by not clicking on their sites, I will not support so par work, and will not give them the internet traffic they so covet. /rant
by AxemanACL on Dec 15, 2010 12:05 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Sort of
Portland has a small-town mentality. The media is just a symptom of it.
The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct
A caller who was average at best on Jim Rome's show
got his own radio show.
Hicksville galore. and quite embarrassing nationally
48 Wins would be just fine
by GreatOden'sRaven on Dec 15, 2010 9:35 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
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This is exactly why Blazersedge is important.
by Jomo D. M. Greenidge on Dec 15, 2010 1:02 PM PST reply actions
For the most part sports journalism is a joke
it doesn’t matter if you’re in Portland or Los Angeles because it’s an industry populated by hacks. TJ Simmers and Bill Plaschke suck as hard as Canzano. There’s something about guys who decide to report about sports for a living, most of them are incredibly deceptive as well as lazy.
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by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Dec 15, 2010 6:51 PM PST reply actions
Still not worth reading and listening to..
Thank you for letting me know Canzano and Quick are still not worth reading and listening to.. I tried to listen to the Lund show when he took over for Wheels. Lund turned me off real fast.
These 3 guys are soooooo boring. And since their source, KP, is gone, they have to make up drama and place themselves into the story to fill their paper space and radio time. Good call naming them media and not sports reporters..
Real men do not watch, read or listen to drama shows, emotional woman do. When I want the real Blazer news, I read the Blazersedge and Club Blazers web sites.

































