Game 9 Preview: Pistons vs. Trail Blazers
Game Time: 7:00 p.m. TV: CSNNW
Dave's Rule to Live By #8: Just because you got beat up by Nelson Muntz is no reason to run from Ralph Wiggum.
OK, maybe the Pistons aren't that bad but their prospects in Portland tonight aren't shiny. The good news is their two-game winning streak. They've taken out the Bobcats and the Warriors in consecutive games. The bad news is that those are the only two games they've won. The Warriors are the only team with any measure of success they've beaten. Their 102 points in that game was only the second time all season they've broken the century mark, also notching 104 versus Oklahoma City. They've not won a road game. And in case anybody has forgotten or just repressed the memory, the Blazers just came off of a trouncing for the ages. If Nate McMillan can find any five players with half a lepton's worth of pride this should be a long night for the Pistons.
On Detroit's side, Ben Gordon joins a long list of guards off to an incredible start this season. His 18.3 ppg average looks pedestrian until you realize he's doing it on 55% shooting from the field, 40% from the three-point arc. The only thing keeping him from 20+ is not drawing superstar fouls. In an interesting development the Pistons flip-flopped Gordon and Rip Hamilton against the Warriors, letting Rip start and bringing Ben off the bench. Golden State zeroed in on Gordon, holding him to 6 shots. He made half of them for 7 points, which would appear to be an advantage. Hamilton scored 27 though. Gordon's 6 assists were icing on the cake as the Pistons marched to victory.
Besides Gordon and the recently-resurgent Hamilton the Pistons also feature Rodney Stuckey, the point guard they traded Chauncey Billups to make room for. Stuckey is doing well enough at 16 and 6 in 32 minutes with an impressive 3.5 assist-to-turnover ratio. He can explode at any given moment and the Pistons are still high on him.
Besides that, the Pistons start an aging and not-dominant Tayshaun Prince who, like his teammates, is an effective scorer but not a volume guy. More disturbingly his once-trademark defense has gone downhill to the point of being non-recognizable. Accompanying Prince is 6'11" beanpole sophomore Austin Daye. He likes to operate outside but his shot isn't falling so far this year...a major hole in Detroit's offensive plans. Ben Wallace rounds out the starters. He's still a good rebounder and defender but he doesn't play long minutes anymore.
Besides whichever of Gordon or Hamilton isn't starting, the Pistons' main guy off the bench is Charlie Villanueva. He's far more perimeter-oriented than he was earlier in his career but he can stills score and rebound. Power forward Jason Maxiell once struck fear in hearts for his rebounding but he's had 3 DNP-CD's in a row now. His spot has been taken by 6'11", 250lb Greg Monroe who is rebounding the dickens out of the ball. Tracy McGrady also plays occasionally for this team though he's having a semi-miserable year so far and appears to be on his way out of the league as less than an afterthought.
The Pistons have a couple of problems. One is that they feature a herd of B-level offensive players. Gordon is legit and Stuckey can go but they're intermittent. Rip Hamilton has seen his best days. Most of the other guys won't have better days. They're efficient enough and when everyone is clicking they'll be fine but all it takes is one or two players having an off night and they're stuck in Low-90's-Land. The solution is to have Stuckey or Gordon try and blast them through but that's easy to predict and compensate for. Second, they're not the defenders they once were. They're allowing opponents 47.3% shooting from the field. The only place they really defend well is the three-point arc. Couple that with the first problem and you start to understand their record. They can't score enough to get out of debt. Third, they don't always work hard or together. Their mix is a little odd physically, stylistically, and even in age mix. Prince and Wallace could help a team on the cusp but there's too much space in Detroit right now for them to make up at this stage of their careers. Stuckey's kind of a fish-and-fowl point guard. Gordon is a short off-guard. They're just a little confusing as a team.
The Pistons can shoot threes well and all of them can rebound. These are two areas where Portland excels, however...at least on a good night. Portland's three-point defense has been stingy this year and the Blazers can all hit the boards too. Plus Portland should be able to use height and bulk to get over or through Piston counterparts. The Blazers should know to defend the one-on-one play from the guards, force them to rely on non-backcourt players for offense, and rebound the miss. In short, with even an average level of effort this game should be right in the Blazers' wheelhouse. Any game can be lost from lack of effort, of course, but this one better not be.
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Let's hope for a convincing win.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Nice.. something for me to read tonight
Until he's not, Rudy's a Blazer.
by collectiveshane on Nov 8, 2010 11:04 PM PST reply actions
yeah, I team we can beat without a real center....
let the pummeling begin!
Geriatric Dunk Squad!
1/4/10 - Juwan Howard dunks on Chris Kaman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkOqDgLb6s
3/7/10 - Andre Miller Tomahawk jams on the Denver Nuggets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-JVgm7F1QA
4/12/10 - Marcus Camby drops 30 and 13 on OKC to cement 50 wins. http://www.nba.com/blazers/media/camby_chant_041310.mp3
by Eat Politicians on Nov 9, 2010 12:38 AM PST reply actions
The Lakers had a real center?
Chicago had a real center?
OKC had a real center? (ok, maybe Krstic is a “real center”)
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
I think LA has a real center. Even if Pau is a power forward, he is 7 ft tall.
And he hangs out around the basket quite a bit. I don’t know…he seems to do pretty well at that position, even if he’s not a real center.
And please don’t tell Westbrook he’s not a real center. This may upset him.
by Natsthecat on Nov 9, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
// swish //
chk yrslf bf u rec yrslf
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Nov 9, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
so what is Pau when Bynum comes back?
although I’ll concede that the Bulls will play Boozer at PF and Noah at center.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
Hmmm
so what is Pau when Bynum comes back?
How does part of the best front court in basketball suit you?
or
The best reason ever to hate the Griz.
by damonrayhymer on Nov 9, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
even better
than the Darius Miles fiasco.
by damonrayhymer on Nov 9, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
When Greg Oden steps out on the court
Joe-Kim Noah becomes a frightened child
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Woooooot!
Look closer... Gratulatione inveneris verbum secretum.
by hoodieNation on Nov 9, 2010 1:49 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I heart Greg Monroe
hoya saxa, baby. With Summers the pistons are hoya heavy so I like them but they are terrible team in the sense that the whole is so much less than the parts. 5 combo guards and 8 tweener forwards is not a recipe for success. No idea why this team is trying to go back to the glory days with Ben Wallace and Knee mac getting minutes. Play monroe, play daye, trade prince, hamilton, cut kneemac.
Blazers lose this it might be a long season.
Detroit!
Is a terrible way to start a bad 80’s song. Huey Lewis is a dope for never saying “Portland” in The Heart Of Rock and Roll, and I hope the Blazers take it out on Gordon and co. tonight.
Civic respect is at stake! Free chalupas if B-Roy touches the rim! Rudy might make a shot tonight! Put in the rookies!
I’m pretty excited.
chk yrslf bf u rec yrslf
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Nov 9, 2010 6:04 AM PST via mobile reply actions
After the losses against OKC and LA
the Blazers better come out with fire in their eyes and put this one away by halftime. I want a 20 point victory. If it winds up being a nailbiter, the Blazers may be in trouble.
kind of defines "nailbiter", doesn't it?
If it winds up being a nailbiter, the Blazers may be in trouble.
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
by blacknoiseNW on Nov 9, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I meant it doesn't bode well for the season
I guess I didn’t express myself well.
But if the Blazers win by 40,
they’re going to win the title this season!:D
chk yrslf bf u rec yrslf
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Nov 9, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
well, you know Bedge - no good deed goes unpunished...
Law of Logical Argument
Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.
the beat downs will continue
until BE morale improves
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Emphatic win would be very cool
Gives us a chance to see if our guys have enough pride to get irked over our previous blowout. We didn’t have the guns for last game but in this one the Pistons are actually in that spot.
Close the game out this time. There is no such thing as a lead until the other team puts in their garbage time players!
Portland should win this one going away.
If the team is going to keep fan interest it needs to blow out these bottom feeders to give fans the false perception that it can hang with the contenders.
Did I just say that? Ugh.
Pessimism aside, GO BLAZERS!!!!!!!!
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
you may lose interest in the team, but I will not.
Lucas, then a Blazers assistant, walked past and said that nobody trash-talked like Garnett during his career. "Back then," Lucas said, "it was only a $50 fine for punching a guy in the mouth."
#52
Yeah, we'll be interested,
but the beating up on bottom feeders, and then failing to show up against the better teams; Ranger has a point, a good point.
The Blazers collapsed against OKC, whooped a chump, and then no-showed in LA. Thems the facts, and it’s frustrating.
by damonrayhymer on Nov 9, 2010 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
they may be facts, but I will still be around.
Doesn’t change MY interest in the team. May change yours, so your free to speak for yourself, just not for me.
Lucas, then a Blazers assistant, walked past and said that nobody trash-talked like Garnett during his career. "Back then," Lucas said, "it was only a $50 fine for punching a guy in the mouth."
#52
"Roy is a poor jump shooter"
a direct quote from the Detroit Bad Boys blogger, other blogs in the SB nation family continue to be laughable in comparison to blazersedge.
I've noticed
that other blogs are actually better.
Better if you like space to spread out, get away from everything, a space where you can enjoy some alone time, or read a book, you know, something cerebral that doesn’t require interaction w/ other fans.
Blazers Edge, on the other hand, seems more likely to require the attention of the Fire Marshall. Sure is crowded in here, all us fans.
by damonrayhymer on Nov 9, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
Mike Payne from DetroitBadBoys here, the author of that post
I wrote the game preview for tonight’s game, although it was merged with a duplicate written by my colleague Kevin Sawyer who made that comment. This year he’s right. In your defense, yes— Roy was an above average jump shooter for the last two seasons. In Kevin’s defense, he’s started this in a terrible fashion (worse than his rookie and sophomore seasons). He’s been abysmal across the floor outside of the paint, hitting at the worst efficiency of his career from every single point outside of the rim.
We’re not laughable over at DBB, we’re objective. And most of us love the Blazers, funny enough. It’s hard to knock Kevin’s comment when it is backed up statistically.
For Jonas!!

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