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Who wants Greg Oden ? (with poll)

We have a lot of speculation on what the team should do regarding Greg Oden's contract, which is expiring.  Yes, the Blazers did the smart thing by not already signing him.  Rather they took a 'wait and see' approach, giving him time to get on the floor and show his stuff.  Obviously, his value took a hit with the latest microfracture on his other knee.  And the smart thing is still to wait and see before making a decision. In making their arguements, people make assumptions, possibly emotionally driven on a number of relevant variables that are central in determining what is Greg Oden worth.  Variables including:




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1) Greg's physical condition, specifically, his knees.  Will he ever be physically able to play ?  His repeated injuries have led some to conclude that he is somehow physically defective - just too fragile.  Yet the team trainer recently went to great lengths explaining that the team has done every imaginable test in search of this supposed constitutional flaw responsible for Greg's string of injuries, and found nothing.  I am inclinded to believe that the medical staff directly working with Greg, with full access to all of his medical records actually know more than relatively ignorant critics proclaiming their terminal diagnosis.  It could simply be that Greg's superhuman strength taxes the human body to the limits of it's endurance.  Big man injuries are hardly unique to Greg Oden.
Then there is the matter of the current surgery at hand.  This is apparently very similar to the same microfracture procedure which Greg has already successfully undergone on his other knee.  It could even be agued that, once Greg gets through the initial grief on this setback when he was close to playing, he will settle into his rehab routine, with the direct support of his training staff, and the reassurance that he has from the success of the first knee.  Considering probable improvements in the microfracture technique over the years, as well as the succes of players such as Stoudemire and Zach Randolpf, there is good reason to expect the current knee to recover to good playing condition.

2) Greg's mental state, his desire to play and motivation to stay focussed and work through the demanding rehab process.  Here, again we have the previous surgery to use as a reference.  By all accounts I am aware of, Greg was entierly cooperative in following his previous rehab regimen.  They may have even learned to do it better, as in not over building the leg muscles to support the knee.  He has repeatedly demonstrated his committment to 'staying positive', which I believe is critical for him in being successful through his hardships, as well as supportive of his team mates.  If he has had counselling to assist him with his attitude, he seems to be again following the advise well.


Greg has demonstrated to me that he is indeed a 'gentile giant'.  He enjoys people.  He has inappropriately apologized in the past for being injuried - apologizing as he is being carried off the court with a broken knee cap, showing an incredible concern and desire to please the fans and support the team.  This impresses me.  A guy who really cares about the fans, deserves the fans to care about him.  Which brings us to

3) The fans - do they want Greg anymore ?  Are THEY too tired from all of his surgeries and rehab ?  Is just watching and waiting for Greg to go through all he is going through just a bit too tough for them ?  If so, then maybe they don't deserve him or his allegiance.  If that's the case, I'm a bit ashamed for the fans.  You do matter to Greg, and it is good to make any support you happen to have known to him.
As for the 'move on' contingent - move on where, exactly.  Lottery?  Trading off our old or injured assets for who, really?  Easier said than done.   Tearing down is always a lot easier than building up.  We don't have to put all our hopes in any one player.  We have a good team of great guys to root for, that I am happy to stick with, until a clearly beneficial trade opportuity arises.  

4) Financial factors.  Knowledgable fans have provided overviews of specifics on this, and all attempts here are rather handicapped by the impending expiration of the current CBA.  "It's a business"?  It's sure not makin' me any money, nor Paul Allen, for that matter.  It better be about the passion and art of the game and the relationship between the fans and the players, or it is bankrupt.  Considering the fortune PA has sunk into this team, this hardly seems the place to 'draw the line', particularly considering we are not considering a max contract here.  Bottom line on cost is, the above factors will make the determination of whether Greg continues as a Blazer.

Fortunately no decision has to be made now, and we will have a lot more information on how Greg's currrent rehab is going before any contract decision has to be made.  But fans do have an opportunity to back up a guy who has only wanted to please them, to reward them for entrusting him with their cherished number one pick.  The majority of you wanted to draft Greg.  You needed him for your dreams.  Now he needs you for his.  Whether Greg stays and succeeds in Portland could depend on what the fans have to say.  What do you say?  Just wondering.

Poll
Who wants Greg Oden ?
I DO
447 votes
I DONT
69 votes

516 votes | Poll has closed

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Even if he ends up as half of his former self,

That’s better than most. Of course, see how the rehab goes. Because I’ve got to imagine that the rehabbing is tough. I know I’d be tempted to give up at this point. If Greg is not going to give up on himself, then I wont either. But that’s why we wait until June and see how it goes.

"Love may forgive all infirmities and love still in spite of them: but Love cannot cease to will their removal." - C. S. Lewis, The Problem of Pain, 1940

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by T Darkstar on Nov 22, 2010 3:28 PM PST reply actions  

heeeeeyyyyyyy

we want Greg Oden!

I said heeeeeyyyyyyy

we want Greg Oden!

by Escrote on Nov 22, 2010 3:45 PM PST reply actions  

Arthur Fonzarelli.............

……………………………………………is that you???

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 22, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions  

hmmmmm

the jukebox must be broken. know anyone who can fix it?

maybe the fonz can have a look at greg’s knee, too.

"careful, man. there's a beverage here."

by Oh. Em. Gee. on Nov 24, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Somebody say....

Heyyyyyyy, we want Greg Oooooooooden!!!

Let me hear you say

Heyyyyyyyyy, we want Greg Oooooooden!!!

by Hopman27 on Nov 24, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Genious Idea

The majority of you wanted to draft Greg. You needed him for your dreams. Now he needs you for his.

That is so poignantly put; great stuff.

by blazer_believer on Nov 22, 2010 5:38 PM PST reply actions  

I'm sure the Lakers do.

Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.

by Net Ranger on Nov 22, 2010 6:46 PM PST reply actions  

They've already got an injury prone-but-promising young Center, thank you very much...

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 22, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Came here hoping there was a poll

rec for that.

Second I came here to repeat what you said, that Oden needs his fan support now as much as ever. He has had a tough time and people see that and laugh and jeer, calling him a bust, or mentally unstable, “prone to depression”. He has tried to live up to what we wanted him to be, its no ones fault that that hasn’t happened. Ignorant people like to blame the wind for blowing off their roofs, or the river for flooding their basement. He needs us to let him know that we aren’t going to turn on him if he doesn’t regain form, that we aren’t going to hate him if he never regains his health. Business is a business, but we fans don’t need to see that side of it. We fans need to show that our team, and our players, have our full support to get healthy and rejoin the game on the court.

by Sir.Ludo on Nov 22, 2010 6:51 PM PST reply actions  

grrhrhrhhr...

I voted “I DO” and I hate myself for it.

what does that mean.

The Faith don't panic, the Faith freaks out, burns out small farms and villages in the name of the Faith.

by faith on Nov 22, 2010 7:08 PM PST reply actions  

That means you hate Przybilla, too, because if $8.8M goes into Oden, Pryzzy is gone...

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Nov 22, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I voted

I don’t, and I hate myself for it.
The reason is because sometimes your first impulse is right.
Actually, 73% of the time, if you’ll allow me to pull a number out of a donkey’s butt.
Makes it sound better, right? ;)

by thaisteve on Nov 25, 2010 12:34 AM PST up reply actions  

He might be a gentile giant

couldn’t really tell if he was cut in the cell phone pix.

dinasour type of guys choir boys

by mittsabishy on Nov 22, 2010 7:21 PM PST reply actions  

AHH HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

YOU ARE JUST SO FREAKIN HILARIOUS.

Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.
- Charles Darwin

by Love on Nov 22, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Keep him!

Unless he feels he needs to be “paid out of this world”

Damn the Blazers. Damn them to hell. - 'The Sports Guy' Bill Simmons

by doublezeroduck on Nov 22, 2010 10:37 PM PST reply actions  

He will probably get signed by a young up and coming team

One that has all the pieces except that big guy in the middle. Does it sound like I’m describing Oklahoma City to you? How’s that for some salt in your wounds.

by lickety brindle on Nov 23, 2010 7:09 AM PST reply actions  

A provocative possibility

Actually, if Portland didn’t want Greg (which certainly does not appear to be the case :-), I would like to see that. I actually like the Thunder as a team, and I have always been a Durant fan (actually my preference for our choice). And Kevin and Greg are reportedly on quite friendly terms, linked forever as they are in that fateful draft. It would be scary to put them on the same team together. Kevin Pritchard once said he loved both of those young draft candidates, that he wished there was a way he could get both. If he would have followed that wish with an all out push (of course he would have had to persuade Mr. Allen), it possibly could have been done if we traded Seattle for their 2nd pick.
But, uh uh, you can’t have him OC.

If Oden does not give up on the Blazers, we should not give up on him.

by Berkeley on Nov 23, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

would have followed that wish with an all out push (of course he would have had to persuade Mr. Allen), it possibly could have been done if we traded Seattle for their 2nd pick.

Does anyone think that Seattle would have accepted Brandon Roy for the 2nd pick in the 2007 draft? (Rookie of the year, local kid.) I doubt that this idea ever entered in KP and PA’s minds, at the time. Blake-Jack-Rudy at the guards. Durant-Webster-Catfish at the wings. LMA-Przy-Oden as the big men.

You can sure drive yourself crazy what-iffin’ like this

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Nov 23, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions  

If someone ever gets a chance to ask Cho this hypothetical question

it would be interesting to hear the answer, assuming he doesn’t just side-step it

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Nov 23, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

If I'm PA and I've already invested approx 20M

in a project (that being GO), I’d probably gamble and throw in the pot whatever is needed to see how it ultimately turns out. I’d want to know if he’s broken for good or if he can play. No way do you let him put on someone elses jersey after you’ve invested that much coin. If the surgery goes well and he commits 100% to rehab you sign him. The kid also needs to eat right and stay off the booze.

by toolman on Nov 23, 2010 8:01 PM PST reply actions  

The kid also needs to eat right and stay off the booze.

He’s doing better at that, right?

by Hopman27 on Nov 24, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It hurts me to watch Oden go through this again. It kills me.

But I’m supporting G.O. all the way. We might be “delusional” fans, but haters are just as delusional if they can’t see G.O. is a beast. Enough said.

by Hopman27 on Nov 24, 2010 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

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