BREAKING NEWS: GREG ODEN TO UNDERGO MICROFRACTURE SURGERY, DONE FOR THE SEASON
by Ben Golliver on Nov 17, 2010 7:27 PM PST
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The Portland Trail Blazers have announced via a press release that center Greg Oden will undergo microfracture surgery on his left knee, ending his 2010-2011 NBA season before it started.
Oden fractured the patella in his left knee in a game against the Houston Rockets last December. His rehabilitation had been a slow, start-and-stop process, marred by knee pain and continual delays.
Here's the full press release from the Portland Trail Blazers.
PORTLAND, Ore. - Portland Trail Blazers center Greg Oden will undergo microfracture surgery on his left knee Friday and will miss the remainder of the 2010-11 season, the Trail Blazers announced this evening.
Dr. Richard Steadman will perform the surgery with assistance from Trail Blazers orthopedic surgeon Dr. Don Roberts at the Steadman Hawkins Clinic in Vail, Colo.
Oden, 22, has been sidelined since fracturing his left patella in a Dec. 5, 2009, game vs. Houston. A recent MRI showed damaged cartilage to the surface of his femur, and his current injury is unrelated to the fractured left patella.
Oden previously underwent microfracture surgery on his right knee Sept. 13, 2007.
He holds career NBA averages of 9.4 points, 7.3 rebounds, 0.6 assists and 1.43 blocked shots in 82 games over parts of two seasons from 2008-09.
The Blazers will hold a press conference tonight. More coverage from that as soon as possible.
-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter
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Don't bring him back, im over him and roy
by Blazingatrail24 on Nov 17, 2010 8:02 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Correct. Re-sign Pryzzy, re-sign Pendergraph, and curse the basketball gods...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
wvhewuilfhuai;wrIOFV HIO;W
HTI;EWTHJIO;AWJIO;…….here we go again…
wow...
wonder if we will ever see him in a blazer uniform
Doubtful
He is a RFA after this lost season. Best case scenario is we move JPEC for a servicable young center, my mind is too upset and in need of time to wrap my head around this to suggest a suitable player to meet said criteria. Oden is done, he is a bust, facts are now facts.
by blazerbeliever97504 on Nov 17, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
One of my brothers keeps telling me that the Center position in Chicago
during the Bulls championship run, was filled by “ok” centers…noone special..They did have decent offense games.
Wonder if Mark Gasol will be available next year?
The Mikes kept saying Memphis is unlikely to keep both ZBo and Gasol.
They also had MJ and Scottie.
None of our current players are that good, or even have a ceiling that high.
I will run naked through the streets if Oden wins the MVP this season...happily.
We won't get Zbo back, and he's not really a center anyways. Memphis probably keeps Gasol. Chicago had Jordan too, which could explain the decent offensive games.
Sure things might not be looking great right now, but look on the bright side. I have liquor.
by Tyler Durrden on Nov 17, 2010 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
Cartwright: totally Dope.
Longley: Pretty Dope
Wennington: Not a bad back up at all
Perdue: Good enough
Williams: Great for a rookie
King:totally decent
These were guys who just didn’t score because of the system. They were all above average players.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
by mittsabishy on Nov 17, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
I'd take Hibbert.
And Bird is known more for his dumb trades than his thievery.
by PTB Tested on Nov 17, 2010 8:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I've always liked Hibbert,
and I said so out loud before his draft, to Red&BlackAttack
Please confim
by damonrayhymer on Nov 17, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
Awesome at O
Horrible at D unfortunately.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
by mittsabishy on Nov 17, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
I second that
I hate to sound so negative but I’m counting the days till we hear Brandons done for the season too….
Yea, I feel horrible for Greg
There’s obviously something chronically wrong with him. I wonder if the Blazers have been unable to identify the problem, or if they’re just keeping it secret for some reason?
"...it was like he brought his own personal cross-wind to the arena." - Dave
I think what is wrong with him
Is that his body simply can’t handle playing in the NBA. I don’t think it’s some specific problem that can be fixed.
This has to be the end of Greg..
… right? Also, totally broken hearted right now.
by powellandpressmurder on Nov 17, 2010 7:31 PM PST reply actions
I agree
Do everything the Drs tell you to do Greg. See you in two years. I’ll be here for you when you are ready.
Good luck big fellow.
Get well Joel! – Elgin
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
At the very least
It’s the end of him in a Blazer uniform. There is simply no way he is extended after this.
by powellandpressmurder on Nov 17, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
Btw
Today is my birthday. What a terrible gift this is.
by powellandpressmurder on Nov 17, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
If not physically, you would think it will kill him mentally
I can’t imagine going through the rehab and all the effort to stay in shape.
"...it was like he brought his own personal cross-wind to the arena." - Dave
I would imagine that's effectively the end of his career
Bloggin' 'bout AZ sports ... SB Nation Arizona
Why??
Don’t be a fool.
"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion
wont happen
someone will give him money, if not portland, someone. why wouldnt he want to get paid to go thru rehab?
#88
He's 22 years old
I think he’ll do whatever he needs to do to try to have a 15-year career of multi-million-dollar income.
Until it’s proven impossible.
Hopefully the other knee is looking good at this point and can still thrive while he’s rehabbing this one.
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
Except Oden's passion for basketball has been doubted before, as has his confidence
This could be the final blow. Man, I’m not a blazers fan, but I sure hope he is ok. I love the NBA, but I never really get into the college game….however, Oden was the first college player I got excited about in a long, long time…. it’ll be a real shame if he never ends up with an at least halfway decent pro career. He’s still young….but damn…..
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Nov 17, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
If he really lacked passion he wouldn't have stayed in shape
Physically he looks like he did at Ohio State.
This is on the training staff. I seriously doubt his knee would have been swelling if it was just tendinitis.
This was a contract year for him
so it might not be too much of a multi-million dollar career for him anymore
by SandyTrailBlazer on Nov 17, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
I numb
"I was surprised, I was listening to the coach on the bench and behind me, she touches me and says, ‘Rudy, I love you. Nice to meet you. Good game.’ - Rudy
by The Mallorcan Rocket on Nov 17, 2010 7:33 PM PST reply actions
Heart breaking.
Again.
Hang in there, big fella. You can get back on the court if you will it to be so.
chk yrslf bf u rec yrslf
by Hipster Olympic Team! on Nov 17, 2010 7:33 PM PST via mobile reply actions
This is why..
that contract extension was not offered to him.
Dang not going to hear the end of this
story from my F@kers fans at my work.
R.I.P.
#52
I believe so,
but for a pretty modest rate, probably the Minimum, one year at a time.
by damonrayhymer on Nov 17, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
Yes.
Proud member of the Toledo Computer Club since 2010.
by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
It makes sense for the franchise,
and it makes sense for Greg as well. We’ll keep him as our 15th guy, hoping for a miracle.
He’ll stick w/ PDX, knowing that expectations will be reduced here, as opposed to that of big money pressure elsewhere, and Portland is his kind of relaxed environ.
Maybe someday….
by damonrayhymer on Nov 17, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
As much as I hate to say it
He might feel even more relaxed elsewhere, because of the expectations that have been heaped upon him by a franchise that took him #1.
Proud member of the Toledo Computer Club since 2010.
by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
Yea, and I'm sure he'll question the reliability of our medical staff
Sometimes you just need a fresh start. Greg is surely in bad need of one.
"...it was like he brought his own personal cross-wind to the arena." - Dave
I think the other team would have to overpay,
which would create a new problem for both Greg and his new team.
My take is that he stays.
by damonrayhymer on Nov 17, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
Your username is perfectly appropriate for this comment and its context.
He was only five-foot-three but girls could not resist his stare... Chip Kelly never got called an asshole.
Do we sign him if someone gives him a lucrative contract?
by CaptainSexyJacob on Nov 17, 2010 7:34 PM PST reply actions
nope, money could be better spent on someone who will actually see floor time.
#52
by greatestfall on Nov 17, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
Aren't we going to be maxed out regardless?
"...it was like he brought his own personal cross-wind to the arena." - Dave
No.
If big money comes his way, you wish him luck.
by damonrayhymer on Nov 17, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
Probably time to forget about the current structure of the roster.
Silver linings. Silver linings. Silver linings.
Come on Stern!
Lock me out of this misery…
"I was surprised, I was listening to the coach on the bench and behind me, she touches me and says, ‘Rudy, I love you. Nice to meet you. Good game.’ - Rudy
by The Mallorcan Rocket on Nov 17, 2010 7:34 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
He's ran with a limp his entire career.
It’s math. Would any part in your engine work while running this way?
Trail Blazers Check List Since 2007:
1. Hire new Training Staff based on restoring symmetry to physical body.
2. Replace Nate MicMillan with coach with proven success at highest level.
3. Develop LMA's handles until he becomes Kevin Durant 0.8
Poor guy. This sucks.
#52.
THANK YOU KEVIN PRITCHARD
Blazers fan since '91
REST IN PEACE MAURICE LUCAS 1952-2010 R.I.P #20
by rise_stand_resist on Nov 17, 2010 7:35 PM PST reply actions
Don't even really care.
In a strange way….it’s a relief.
No need to worry anymore. He’s done and we can move on.
He will not be extended by the Blazers and he may try to come back into the league, Darius-style, as the situation goes.
"whoever scores the most points is probably gonna win the game"
by kobestopper on Nov 17, 2010 7:35 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
This was my reaction as well
Along with wanting to cry for Greg.
Poor guy.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Nov 17, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
he’ll have a gigantic contract, if he can come back from this microfracture surgery.
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
Sigh...
Only Greg Oden can need season ending surgery before he even returns from his last season ending surgery.
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Nov 17, 2010 7:37 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
I'm gonna admit it
I LOLed at this. Sometimes humor is the only thing to help you through.
by powellandpressmurder on Nov 17, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
Joel had a story to go with it though
I have nthn btr 2 do than spend time coming up with a clever signature
Uh..
Wow. Sad as I am as a Blazer fan, this must be so tough on Oden. My thoughts and prayers go out to him. Hang in there, Greg.
For as bad as I feel about this
Greg has to feel worse and that’s the awful part. Here’s to hoping his career isn’t over.
I love B Edge almost as much as I love B Roy and close to my love for B atum
by kengriffey on Nov 17, 2010 7:37 PM PST reply actions 18 recs
aaaaaand its over.
Now what? No star quality left on this team.
Nicolas Batum
It’s time to release his full potential.
Anything I write after midnight should be taken with a grain of salt.
In K.P. I STILL trust.
Travis Outlaw fan from the beginning.
Time to run
We have the athletes, and hopefully we can keep plugging in aging vets at PG until Armon is ready to lead. Or Nash is made available to us for cheap.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Nov 17, 2010 9:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
so essentially
when we were talked to about the LA specialist taking a look at Greg’s knee, we were flat out being lied to. (saying it was healing as it was supposed to)
by Pat28K on Nov 17, 2010 7:37 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I think that is what has pissed me off the most the last few years
Lots of lies and cover-ups…..lame really.
Trail Blazers Check List Since 2007:
1. Hire new Training Staff based on restoring symmetry to physical body.
2. Replace Nate MicMillan with coach with proven success at highest level.
3. Develop LMA's handles until he becomes Kevin Durant 0.8
by loyal_blazer on Nov 17, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
He looked at the knee and agreed with the diagnosis of the Blazer docs. No one said everthing was A-OK
Cho said ElAttrache’s diganosis was consistent with the opinion of the Blazers’ doctors, but he would not elaborate.
Wiggada Wiggada Zers!
this explains why Greg's been slow to recover
maybe Dr. Roberts saw the cartilage damage on the MRI and wanted Dr. Neal’s opinion before they scheduled the surgery. No need to make that public until the decision was made
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
probably
the most likely situation. Considering Cho’s words were along the lines of “Dr ElAttrache basically said what our Dr said” meaning it’s something they didn’t want to hear…and here we are. Bummer :(
For all we know, Durant could have averaged 3 points and 2 rebounds a game this year.
BEdge don’t need to explode into flames just because G.O. can’t catch a break.
THANK YOU KEVIN PRITCHARD
Blazers fan since '91
REST IN PEACE MAURICE LUCAS 1952-2010 R.I.P #20
by rise_stand_resist on Nov 17, 2010 7:37 PM PST reply actions
still better stats than what Oden's going to put up this year
staying healthy is a talent, too. As a Packer fan, I know this all too well with Justin Harrell. But at least he wasn’t picked over an all-universe swingman.
On another note, what on earth is wrong with our medical staff?
Did Greg break his knee again, or was he misdiagnosed all this time, again?
The inbound to McGinnis, drives, stops, pumps, shoots, short, no good...AND THE GAME IS OVER! ~ Bill Schonely
by SandbergOnSports on Nov 17, 2010 7:38 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
I was wondering the same thing, how did this happen/go unnoticed?
Silver linings. Silver linings. Silver linings.
Apparently Dr. Robert Cook is still on the payroll
"And look at Robin dancin' around Ha Ha Haaaah!
by The Rubberband Man on Nov 17, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
ha ha ha ha
at least this team knows the difference between a license to drive and a franz bread card.
"I could have done with other loves perhaps. But there it is, either you love or you don't" -SB
by nightbluefruit on Nov 17, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
Well, looks like I don't have to worry about getting arrested for indecent exposure anymore.
This is just horrible, horrible news. When it rains, it pours.
I will run naked through the streets if Oden wins the MVP this season...happily.
Haters are going to be coming out of the wood work
and to do so is incredibly disrespectful to a hard working young man. This is a huge burden for him to bear, and it is the right thing to do to support him through it.
Or are Portland people not that good?
by Sir.Ludo on Nov 17, 2010 7:39 PM PST reply actions 19 recs
Agreed
As hard as it is for us fans, it’s harder for him. I truly feel for him… his body couldn’t keep up with his talent.
I have nthn btr 2 do than spend time coming up with a clever signiture
highly rec'd
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
I was thinking the same thing
I mostly lurk on here, but don’t recognize 90% of the people calling him done or a bust
people of portland are tired of seeing this every year.
#52
by greatestfall on Nov 17, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
Right, and Greg has dealt with adversity by acquiring more adversity.
That said, he has time to redefine himself—after all this is said and done.
Oh, you meant the fans? We haven’t dealt with adversity. Injuries to players are not adversity in our lives.
gallows humor
You are defined by how you deal with adversity
oden’s been dealing with adversity. outcome: busted his knee.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
I really don't know how to react.
I feel bad for Greg mostly I guess. It just doesn’t seem like he’s had a fair chance.
Maybe I’ll give up being a Blazer fan.
Anything I write after midnight should be taken with a grain of salt.
In K.P. I STILL trust.
Travis Outlaw fan from the beginning.
Agreed.
I have no idea what the appropriate emotion is, right now.
Anger? At who?
Sadness? Since we never really got started, why?
Cynicism? Isn’t that the death of fandom?…
Ugly, ugly development. I am deeply afraid that injuries are what this current Blazer era will be remembered for, in coming years…
by Billy Ray B8s on Nov 17, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions
Even if all the players on the team got injured for season
I wouldn’t give up being a blazer fan. I’d cheer for whatever d-leaguers put on the blazers uniform.
by RUDYYYY on Nov 17, 2010 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
I never have, and never will give up being a fan
it’s just harder some times than others
I have nthn btr 2 do than spend time coming up with a clever signature
by nthnbtr2do on Nov 17, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Sadness for Greg, Relief that it's over and we can move on.
Not sure what other emotion would be productive at this point.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Nov 17, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
:(
sigh … this is just awful news. My condolences. He’s great when he’s healthy …
WEAVER! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Oh c'mon, is this going to be another waste of a season as well?
The past 2 years have got to be the most trying for any Blazer fan. Just when I thought the news couldn’t get worse because of Roy…it does.
under these circumstances
we had better.
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
Przy should get an extension
but he can’t be offered one until the end of the season, then it’s up to Joel
he chose to stay with Portland back in ‘05, but this current team doesn’t look like the same championship ride that it did a few years ago
buzzard’s luck
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Does anyone else think Joel looks like Nate from Six Feet Under?
He was only five-foot-three but girls could not resist his stare... Chip Kelly never got called an asshole.
This
doesnt have to be the end of the world right? He can come back and still be a very effective center.
by BBG on Nov 17, 2010 7:40 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
We can rebuild him.
We can make him stronger and faster.
The Dude abides.
by BrewDude on Nov 17, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
It's the end for the Blazers
He’s a free agent and I don’t think they’ll be picking him up.
I have nthn btr 2 do than spend time coming up with a clever signiture
Let’s see how he is when he hits the ripe old age of 24 or 25 before we start singing funeral songs for the poor guy.
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
Um, wow.
And here I was worrying about B Roy’s knees earlier today.
I do feel bad for GO. He seems like a nice guy and he’ll never live down the “bust” label. As Blazer fans we’ll move on and I am confident Cho will work to rebuild around this loss. But GO’s life just took a dramatic turn and I do feel bad for the guy.
by Ryan_PDX on Nov 17, 2010 7:40 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
This is the way that the Blazers prepare us
for the impending annoucement about Roy’s upcoming microfracture surgery.
They’ll put out tons of PR about how the two guys are going to rehab together and keep each other’s spirits up.
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
I think this fact makes it even worse...
I’d feel better if they just needed to clean something up or if they’d messed up the original surgery (on this knee). The fact that he needs yet another microfracture surgery for a completely different issue is completely disheartening.
Yes and its no like he was going full bore on his knee since he was still rehabbing.
This is the worst thing of all. It totally proves that his body is what everybody has been saying it is. BRITTLE.
They say that, but...
you have to wonder if that’s the team’s official line to cover it’s but for not preventing this or addressing it earlier. Anyone with medical knowledge know if this could be related to the fractured patella as either a byproduct of the original injury or a complication encountered during the rehab process?
"...it was like he brought his own personal cross-wind to the arena." - Dave
is this
Officially the Ail-Blazer era now?
by Pat28K on Nov 17, 2010 7:40 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
oh
my
goden.
When I moved here in 2001, got a job courtside and poured my allegiance fully into the Blazers, I had no idea It would be like being a Red Sox fan in 1986.
We are now…..years away.
"Rudy’s flashy passes had the place whispering to each other like we were in junior high" ~BlazermaniacAndy
by courtsideerrandboy on Nov 17, 2010 7:40 PM PST reply actions
OH CRAP!
heeeyyyyyyy so dnrkhgu gotta go pl hdei and skeieek
by fajunga on Nov 17, 2010 7:41 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
It took so long to bake it, and I’ll never have that recipe again!!
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
by 22baylor on Nov 17, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
that cake needs to be left out in the rain
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
New Blazer slogan: "Let them eat cake."
"I never learned from a man who agreed with me." - Robert A. Heinlein
incredible..
My heart goes out to the kid. What a shame..
I fear for Wes Matthews well being...
…please release him Richbefore it’s too late!!!
"I was surprised, I was listening to the coach on the bench and behind me, she touches me and says, ‘Rudy, I love you. Nice to meet you. Good game.’ - Rudy
by The Mallorcan Rocket on Nov 17, 2010 7:41 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
crAck
that’s the sound of four knees in the city of portland
it’s also the sound of all our hopes and dreams breaking as we speak
PHILLY!
Weird. This afternoon, my knee kind of cracked and I said there must be something wrong with the Blazers
When my knee hurts, something bad happens. Sacrifice me.
Anything I write after midnight should be taken with a grain of salt.
In K.P. I STILL trust.
Travis Outlaw fan from the beginning.
I thought it was a joke when I first read it actually.
my signature is a work in progress
by Claire on Nov 17, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I actually thought it was a cached version of the site
from the original microfracture announcement the summer before his first season… oh how I wish that had been true.
I have nthn btr 2 do than spend time coming up with a clever signature
How about their next game? I bet they win it.
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
by 22baylor on Nov 17, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
http://www.facebook.com/gregoden?v=wall&filter=1
G.O.’s facebook if you want to leave him love. NO HATERS PLEASE.
THANK YOU KEVIN PRITCHARD
Blazers fan since '91
REST IN PEACE MAURICE LUCAS 1952-2010 R.I.P #20
by rise_stand_resist on Nov 17, 2010 7:42 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
If...
I had a Facebook, I would send him some.
by alexnikozach on Nov 17, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
I would say that Oden's career trajectory now surpasses, in its total failure, that of Bowie's
By a long shot. I tried to ignore the hyperbole, but now it has become reality,
Accept Oden is still really young
and was playing at a high level when he went down. There’s a good chance he’ll recover from this surgery and be a solid NBA player before he’s 24
I think that he is so young and has had these injuries is what makes him
so much more of failure than Bowie. Skill and ability, no question, Oden was better. However, he has/will(?) played far fewer games than Bowie. Thats was the point I was trying to make anyway. Sad.
I agree completely with this being sad
I’ve been shaking my head for 20 minutes already…
It is, my friend, it is. I simply hope that the guy plays at some point in the future and crushes all who stand in his way.
I don’t think it will be with Blazers, and it seems more and more likely it won’t be anywhere in the NBA.
How many other guys have done so after 2 micro fractures in 3 years?
Not likely at all
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Bowie brought us Buck back in a trade
So yeah, as far as the Blazers are concerned, this is a much bigger failure than Bowie.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Nov 17, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
Posting in this historic thread.
Good bye G.O. It was fun while it lasted. :(((
Clyde the Glide, the greatest player ever
Cliff Robinson got mad at my brother who was trying to sell him a cellphone when my brother called him Uncle Cliffy. Apparently, he doesn't like that name very much.
by BeaumontTXBlazerFan on Nov 17, 2010 7:43 PM PST reply actions
Worst news ever.
I can’t even imagine what you guys must be going through.
"If you have a debate with a scholar, you can win. If you have a debate with an ignorant person, you will definitely lose."
"The NBA Apocalypse has occurred, and it's our fault."- C.A. Clark
Lakers in finals: 2-0 with AMMO, 0-1 without.
by LakerAce on Nov 17, 2010 7:44 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'll take care of this!!
You should have drafted Durant.
by MBux on Nov 17, 2010 7:44 PM PST reply actions 11 recs
Thanks, Captain Hindsight
but plenty of others here already took care of that for you.
COME ON, are we Trail Blazer fans or what?
THANK YOU KEVIN PRITCHARD
Blazers fan since '91
REST IN PEACE MAURICE LUCAS 1952-2010 R.I.P #20
by rise_stand_resist on Nov 17, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Captian Hindsight is going to be disappointed that you beat him to the punch
Then again he probably should have seen it coming.
Hopefully!
It would make sense to start and end with MF.
"Blaaaaaaaaaaaaazers, Come Out And Plaaaaaaaay!"
At least Roy will have company
in the rehab room following his microfracture surgery.
What can you do but laugh? This really sucks for him and the franchise.
9 million dollar qualifying offer. No way the Blazers make that offer. Greg will be a UFA. Only way he plays for the Blazers again (if he plays for anyone again that is) is if he feels some loyalty to the franchise and is willing to sign for cheap.
long twos FTL
I agree too. The best scenario is that Oden finds out what he’s worth in the open market and the Blazers get a little discount to re-sign him.
I bet Amare Stoudamire would be glad to have him as a teammate, though.
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
Even if they offer him more than any other team.
Do you think he really wants to come back here even for more money?
If I were him
I’d want to get the hell out of Portland.
KFBR392
by Sabonis4Ever on Nov 17, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
yup
and that is why the blazers might offer him the QO. Its not like it will kill their cap space, PA will probably flip the bill even if it is a slim chance that GO earns his money.
Wildcard!
If I was him I'd feel some loyalty to the team..
That paid me millions of dollars to not help win basketball games. I’d feel loyalty to the fans who had faith that I would work my tail off to try to come back and help their team.
He’ll be an unrestricted FA because we won’t do the QO, but I believe we are still the most likely place for him to be playing when he is ready to play.
by 52therim on Nov 17, 2010 9:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
My bet is that he comes back with IND or CLE
someplace close to his home.
If he actually comes back at all, that is.
ignacio
TIME TO START OVER....sort of?
Well, can’t resign Greg (unless at a HUGE discount), Brandon is a shell of an $80 million dollar player. Time to get Joel back, then trade him and Andre for a good young player and maybe a draft pick, let Greg go, develop Armon and let Armon, LA, Batum, and Mathews be the building blocks and start the search for a good young big man (can we get Sullivan from OSU in the draft next year?). Ugh. First round at best and likely a loss in that series. I just wish Brandon and the team would come to grips. Rest not going to help boney knees.
i agree
blow the team up and start over. i have no desire to swim in mediocrity.
and i’m not even kidding.
Yellow Mamba FTW!
yeah....
Worst thing Blazers can do is hold out blind hope on Brandon. Everyone else can see the decline and read the writing. Hold over the 4 young, talented guys we have, start the “in a couple years” talk again with that crew and find another big man. Basically, hit the restart button and forget the last 3 years unless you are just happy to be in the playoffs again.
This is exactly what Cho is supposed to be good at
Give him free reign to build his team, his way.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Nov 17, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
That spells a mediocre team
Not that it’s a bad thing, but that team doesn’t go anywhere in the playoffs. Better than complete rebuilding though.
I have nthn btr 2 do than spend time coming up with a clever signature
I agree too
I mentioned the same names to build around on Blazers Edge the other day: AJ, Matthews, Batum, Aldridge.
Here’s a trade I’d do in a second if Orlando would go for it: Miller & Pryzbilla for Pietrus & Gortat. Get younger, and get the CURRENT best backup center in the league for the PREVIOUS best backup center in the league.
Then with that squad you push the ball and get open looks in transition. I think they’d still be competitive while adding in additional pieces
Can the Blazer Universe handle
Two Frenchies on one team? Doesn’t that cause a rift in some time/space continuum somewhere? Or at least overload your allotment of Smug?
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Nov 17, 2010 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
Make Armon the starting PG?
I’m not sure we can afford to get rid of miller unless a PG is coming back in the deal….
Time to move on
Good luck to Greg…wishing him a successful surgery and good recovery. I still think he’ll be dominate in this league eventually. He’s still really young.
Unfortunately, I hope the Blazers can move on and try to salvage the success we’ve managed.
I'm sick of this "we should have drafted Durant" crap
No one could have known Oden would have this string of luck! NO ONE! The guy was a beast on the court. We’ll never know what might have been.
by BleedsBlazerRed on Nov 17, 2010 7:47 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
On second thought the Blazers could look give that look at Physical Trainers with different philosophies than
the current….keep him off the leg and see what advanced things can be done to restore regrow the bad parts of the knee w/o surgery. Or they can do what they have been doing and rip into the guy forever rendering him to what he will be with two mf’d knees and essentially ruining the other half of his career.
Wont be surprised to see the surgery, as soon as possible— why that decision would be made a second time, I will NEVER KNOW.
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1. Hire new Training Staff based on restoring symmetry to physical body.
2. Replace Nate MicMillan with coach with proven success at highest level.
3. Develop LMA's handles until he becomes Kevin Durant 0.8
I agree
at my conservatory (of dance) we have a couple of PT’s/doctors. One is a sports doctor, who ALWAYS suggests surgery or cortisone shots, which actually will not help you in the long term. The best thing to do (however, I’ve never known that many people with extremely serious knee injuries) is to rest, then do a lot of physical therapy to rebuild strength in the knee and its supporting muscles. BUT, I’m sure they know whats best (right? god, I sometimes wonder)
my signature is a work in progress
Cant help but feel awful for the big guy
Sure hope he turns it around and has a healthy rest of his career (he’s only 22 after all), but his troubles do not bode well. He’s clearly not structurally sound, nor are his knees cut out for the wear and tear of the NBA (as his wears and tears have shown).
It just saddens me that we may have seen the last of Oden in Portland, a player who was so good when was on the floor. Here’s hoping for a long career. I don’t have the ability to be as pessimistic as many commenting.
"I don’t read Blazersedge every day because the comments would make me too depressed." ~ Rich Cho
Eat crow
Mark my words, the only reason this surgery was called for was to regrow soft tissue in his knee. Do you think we’d have a shot at winning a championship this or next year? Boston is clearly the best team.
He will be back in a blazer uni next year…dominating
you're crazy if you think Portland is giving him a new contract.
#52
by greatestfall on Nov 17, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
.... because he has played exactly 82 games in 4 seasons?
#52
by greatestfall on Nov 17, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
no, 4 seasons, you were right.
he’ll get offered a deal, just will be a short term, heavily incentively deal.
long twos FTL
he'll get next to nothing in terms of guarenteed money if the blazers do give him a new deal.
#52
by greatestfall on Nov 17, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
I really wish they wouldn't though, be like rewarding the dude for doing nothing for 3 years.
#52
by greatestfall on Nov 17, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
if they got him for next to nothing, it would be a good low risk high reward lottery ticket. I could get behind it.
long twos FTL
this is a likely scenario. fortunately (?) its very possible nobody plays next year due to the lockout.
long twos FTL
I don't see that happening.
Stern and Hunter both know what happened to the NHL and won’t allow it.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
I see it happening...
Geriatric Dunk Squad!
1/4/10 - Juwan Howard dunks on Chris Kaman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTkOqDgLb6s
3/7/10 - Andre Miller Tomahawk jams on the Denver Nuggets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-JVgm7F1QA
4/12/10 - Marcus Camby drops 30 and 13 on OKC to cement 50 wins. http://www.nba.com/blazers/media/camby_chant_041310.mp3
by Eat Politicians on Nov 17, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
what happened to the NHL
It consistently outdraws the NBA in local arena attendance? But since it has no real national TV deal, people outside of local NHL markets assume it’s bankrupt. When in reality, the TV deals often lose money.
Guess what, the NHL is currently a better business model than the NBA.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
by mittsabishy on Nov 17, 2010 10:44 PM PST up reply actions
the lockout could easily drag on until Jan-Feb, 2012
that would be a conservative estimate for when Oden’s m/f rehab would be finishing up (if all goes well, which it did following Greg’s 2007 surgery—but not the latest one)
I’m going to wait and see what the front office says re: Greg’s 9 mil qualifying offer. They won’t be commenting on it this week, or this month. They’ll wait and see how his surgery and rehab are going and then decide next spring
Until then, all of our speculation is just that
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ridiculous
Worst thing RE- Greg Oden Injuries, Each Injury is a new, separate injury, Both Knees, Microfractures, Patella, Knee Cap Etc, All Different
/cambyfive
O:SFIJSDOIFHIFH how can someone have such horrible MESSED UP KNEES?!
my signature is a work in progress
well yes, it just seems outrageous that someone can have problems with literally every facet of their knee
my signature is a work in progress
uuummm
Is anybody really surprised?
by JamesHollywoodRobinson on Nov 17, 2010 7:48 PM PST reply actions
yes
cause every team in the league is dying to pick him up
by thomasikehara on Nov 17, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
he's an 6.5 million dollar expiring contract
that has value if a team is looking to dump salary
what should the blazers do now?
They can sit on him, waive him or trade him. So what do you do Nick?
by doomsdaymachine on Nov 17, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions
They can't trade him.
It’s impossible. No team is going to trade for a guy who’s going to be out next season and then become a free agent. What exactly would the point be? They like the way Oden looks in a suit holding crutches on their bench?
by Nick Van Excellent on Nov 17, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
I have to say, for the last 2 years I've really dreaded coming to BE.
I’m always half-expecting some heartbreaking “Breaking News,” and like clockwork, here it is.
two-year clockwork?
Set your alarm for when he comes back.
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
You know what though?
Why would they bother putting him through the surgery if they WEREN’T going to resign him?
I fail to see how we went 50+ years through the NBA w/o anyone having microfracture surgery (because it didnt exist…) and yet now its commonplace the second they see any issues with cartilage. I don’t get it. How long can someone play WITHOUT having this surgery…seems to me plenty of dudes had knee issues throughout their careers but just toughed it out.
You retired
When you did come back with the same skill, it was a miracle.
See: Bernard King
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Nov 17, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
All-time great player whose career was cut short
though he tried to come back a few times.
But it was a different situation in that he had real success, he wasn’t just potentially great. Led the league in scoring at 33pts/gm (this is my memory without looking it up, but I’m in the ballpark). Bernard King led the Knicks to upset the Julius Erving 76ers in the playoffs. He was tough and clutch.
ignacio
When he first came back
He was very good. Injuries got him again, but I remember everyone being in shock at how well he moved.
A “Trick Knee” was usually the kiss of death in the NBA at that time.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Nov 17, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Well, at least Sean Marks knows what he'll be doing for the rest of the season
very sad day for Greg and all Blazer fans, sometimes there are no words. We all need a group hug
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No way, no how
Now that we know Greg is gone, we’ll need something more than filler like Marks.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Nov 17, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
So, does this help us sign him to a really small contract next year?
I can’t imagine many teams would be willing to pay him very much. At least there’s that.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
Wow
Blazers should still keep Oden. Dont wanna give him up to some other team that might take a chance at him. Blazers need to get another solid big man for the long term though. Maybe marc gasol???
If we trade for Marc Gasol, Memphis will win 6 titles.
THANK YOU KEVIN PRITCHARD
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REST IN PEACE MAURICE LUCAS 1952-2010 R.I.P #20
by rise_stand_resist on Nov 17, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
Sign with the Suns Greg....show what you coulda been. Maybe it'll wake everyone the hell up.
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1. Hire new Training Staff based on restoring symmetry to physical body.
2. Replace Nate MicMillan with coach with proven success at highest level.
3. Develop LMA's handles until he becomes Kevin Durant 0.8
CHO HATES HIMSELF
Hope he got some good money because I guarantee he had no clue what he was stepping into. Blazers are like a knee rehab center.
i was there
when damon broke the franchise record for threes in a season
they were giving away free telfair jerseys
by thomasikehara on Nov 17, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
That team had virtually no one you could root for.
This team is filled with good guys you can get behind, even if the W-L suffers a bit. There might be a name for fans who only follow a winner. Some call them smart consumers, and I get that. I think there’s another name for ’em, but it escapes me.
by 52therim on Nov 17, 2010 9:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Later Greg...
Wishing him the best in health, happiness, & whatever he does in the future.
At least us Blazers fans can finally move on from the “If Oden” era. I’ve felt like our hopes and dreams have been held hostage by this enigma for too long now.
It feels good to put this chapter behind us and at least start to think about moving on. It’s been a long and trying 3+ years.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
Ooh ooh. I do!
Anything I write after midnight should be taken with a grain of salt.
In K.P. I STILL trust.
Travis Outlaw fan from the beginning.
Anyone wonder why?
Why can an old Grant Hill and Amare S. come back from injuries either quicker or better than the Blazers when they are essentially the same injuries. either a) training staff issues or b) player issues. Either way, no win right now.
Grant Hill was out in the wilderness for what, 7 years?
At least he had won the NCAA at Duke and been an All-Star, so he knew he could be good if he was ever right…
ignacio
is this real?
i mean is this really happening? this isnt a joke? an alternate reality?
When I first saw this, I thought it was an old post
…something that had come up by accident~~~!!!
Maybe this has something to do with how the team played in New Orleans…
Wonder when THEY found out?
Me too... never would have thought...
I have nthn btr 2 do than spend time coming up with a clever signature
Bet Cho is glad he didn't pull the trigger on that Joel Przybilla for the Dallas Mavericks Top 15 protected 2014 First Round pick deal that was tempting him so much...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
It's a Bayless Deal smirk...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
NOT A BUST, A BUMMER
Cant control injuries for Greg, but he can control his motivation. He’s had some bad luck with his body, but doesnt sound like he is really dedicated to coming back either.
can't blame him for what he's been through
He didn’t ask for these injuries, but I’m gonna go ahead and say it. He is glass.
Sure things might not be looking great right now, but look on the bright side. I have liquor.
by Tyler Durrden on Nov 17, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
Who knows what's in his head by now?
If I was him I think I’d hate basketball by now… and hate rehab, and hate being 7 ft tall
ignacio
The cake was just for display! Do not eat the cake!
Sure things might not be looking great right now, but look on the bright side. I have liquor.
All the sweet green icing flowing dowwwwwn
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
I wish the doctors
or whoever is reporting that , would stop saying that, hes had about 4 surgeries on his knees within the last 3 years. These injuries are obviously related somehow if not directly. People don’t just injure their knees that often unless they are taking them out back and smashing them with a sledgehammer.
I feel alot of banhammers coming
Trail Blazers pdxtrailblazers
We will be streaming live at 9 PM a press conference with Larry Miller, Rich Cho, Nate McMillan and Jay Jensen on trailblazers.tv
/cambyfive
Bulls fan here, sorry to hear about the news
Oden always looked like he would be pretty damn nasty if he had a little luck with health.
Superteams suck.
by Juiceboxjerry on Nov 17, 2010 8:00 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
UNBREAKABLE anyone?
Is Gregg Mr. Glass? I thought that movie was pretend, not based on a true story. Good grief.
My old dentist had huge huge huge hands, but he was great.
His name was Chris McVie too, so I always thought of Fleetwood Mac.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
by mittsabishy on Nov 17, 2010 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
Greg after the all-american high school game
"In 10 years I want to be doing what?
"Successful and happy in my chosen profession (not necessarily basketball)."
In 5 years, he'll probably turn 27, sign a minimum 1 year contract
with the La*ers, and go on to dominate the NBA for 5-7 years w/o any other major injury.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
A definite possibility!
Somebody’s going to take the risk… probably a decent team too. If it pays off, it will be big for them (and terrible for us)
I have nthn btr 2 do than spend time coming up with a clever signature
Suns fan here
Sorry for the trauma.
Hopefully, he can rehab, and recover. Obviously this is much different than A’m’a’r’e but it is possible to recover from a microfracture surgery. Hopefully, he can rehab well, and gets a little luck his way, for once
Good luck Blazers…
by ArizonaCactus on Nov 17, 2010 8:02 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks man
However, I’m not sure the Blazers trainers know what the words “rehab” and “recover” mean.
Anything I write after midnight should be taken with a grain of salt.
In K.P. I STILL trust.
Travis Outlaw fan from the beginning.
i have always wondered what would happen if the suns and blazers switched medical/rehab teams…
i mean, Grant Hill and Steve Nash have no business playing at the level they do at their age…
by ArizonaCactus on Nov 17, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Especially after Hill's early career.
I’ve enjoyed seeing him have an extended NBA career.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks Mr. Cactus
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
Can you guys keep a warm place for Greg to rehab
in an Arizona desert resort? Maybe it’s the Portland weather that’s to blame. Heck I need something to blame other than just plain bad luck. So sad for Greg and Blazer fans.
"He's the one Natural One makes it easy, he can take it inside"
Well, on the plus side, Oden make like $18 Million dollars during his career and never has to shop at Kmart again...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
he made around $220k per game he played in, then.
not too shabby.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
I just made that number up, Storyteller can tell me off if I missed the guess...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Pretty good. It's a bit over $19 million since they signed him to the usual 120% of the rookie scale, with 9 more to come.
Year 1 $4.662 million
Year 2 $5.011 million
Year 3 $5.361 million
Year 4 $6.760 million
QO $8.788 million just to make him restricted. And Cho insinuated he would.
Best wishes to greg
hopefully he can have a role for an NBA team in a few years.
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twitter: Shaqfor3
Breaking records
Has a record been broken for a large number of comments in the shortest amount of time? It was like 200 in 5 minutes.
Oden is out for the season again, yikes! Poor kid!
He can still be pretty damn good though.
Look at McDyess. Maybe not what he was before microfracture surgery, but still a pretty darn good player.
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
who the hell cares about twitter ?
PHILLY!
by CleBlazer on Nov 17, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i read 'Sean Marks' and now i can't breathe out.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
I have nthn btr 2 do than spend time coming up with a clever signature
Not too late to sign Dampier, Cho.
Quick, before the lakers get him!
I will run naked through the streets if Oden wins the MVP this season...happily.
Does Portland even still have their BAE?
If so, that might be a possibility. In the past they thought they’d have Greg back so they couldn’t commit to ED, but now Portland might be willing to give Erick a 2 year deal
OTOH, with Roy’s status up in the air, the feeling at Blazer’s HQ may be to dump another salary and slide under the luxury tax threshold. I just hope it’s not Joel because the team’s defense and rebounding needs Przy badly right now
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I'm not feelin the love for Erick Dampier
There’s a reason that nobody has signed him. For goodness sakes, the Suns just signed Earl Baron because of Robin Lopez’s injury. There is a serious dearth of big men.
The Dude abides.
Damp? Ouch...
Better off telling Dudley to dust his jersey off…….. he lost the election so its not like he’s doing anything……
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Nov 17, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, I forgot about him
Sad that we’ve come to Ericka for a pick-me-up.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Nov 17, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
This is terrible.
I miss Travis!
I miss #25!
what a bunch of bs from the front office
no confidence in the front office
no confidence in the training staff or doctors
root for what’s left of the team
"Better, not good, but better." - Herb Brooks
I just hope we can move on at this point. It is clear that Greg is a bust and we can’t wait forever for this guy to maybe possibly get healthy. I feel bad for him and wish him well, but it is best for the franchise if we just cut ties and let him go. Even if we resign him, and there is no lockout next year, the best we can hope for is for him to play the second half of the season next year trying to play himself into shape and continue developing his skills. Just let him go. Good luck, Greg, but you need to move on from the organization.
Damn...
Too bad really, I can’t believe I’m saying this, but the only place to go now is not completely blow up the team, but shed anybody who we don’t see as long term, and start over, hell maybe we’ll even miss the playoffs this year and get a good draft pick.
If we're gonna start grabbing draft picks,
I sure with K.P. was still here.
Anything I write after midnight should be taken with a grain of salt.
In K.P. I STILL trust.
Travis Outlaw fan from the beginning.
Nah, the team is what it was. Oden was just a faint hope anyway, at least from my perspective.
They’ve got Camby and Pryz, that’s a great Center tandem. They do still need an emergency backup, in my estimation.
LMA is a Top 5 sort of PF talent. Batum is a very high quality wing player and Matthews shows moxy.
Andre is a quality PG.
The team is thin, but it’s still playoff caliber if Roy can come back and contribute.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
And what would be the point of that? 1 or 2 seasons of 1st round exits?
It’s time to blow this thing up and hope for a lottery pick.
Why would we blow up a team after finding out that a reserve center who has played in 82 games in a four year career is out the year?
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
Uhhh...because the entire team philosophy/system that Nate uses was designed around Oden...
…and without him this team has exactly ZERO chance of contending for a title.
I'm a blazers fan....
and a cubs fan. what’s wrong with me??
Same here. I'm also a Toronto Maple Leafs fan.
If it wasn’t for the Ducks football team, it’d be really depressing for me.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
Viking's fan
thank goodness for the Ducks and the Reds finally getting their act together
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as a Beaver fan all I have is Beaver Basketball...
and maybe the prospect of selling my civil war tickets for way too much.
oh yeah they are going to be a fun team...
Coach Rob really has some good kids in the program now and is really shooting for the stars with some of the guys he is going after.
Hey, at least you have hope.
I’m a Royals fan.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
His it knee jerk??
Oden’s been more hurt than they’ve let on, and I’d bet my spleen they’re lying about Brandon. Seems like the only appropriate reaction is anger.
ANYBODY A LAWYER???
Any chance of a class action suit? I can’t even begin to express how pissed I am, as I’m sure everyone else is. Any way season ticket holders can recoup anything Considering how secretive/shady this organization seems to run things, it wouldn’t surprise me if they knew a lot more than, a lot earlier than they’ve let on. Does anyone know if there’s is anything that can be done, or are we screwed?? Either way, I AM DONE!!
"Any chance of a class action suit?"
Almost certainly not, unfortunate though it may be from your point of view right now.
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Nov 17, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
What you said
Although I can make a colorable claim for intentional infliction of emotional distress based on how the front office handled this :(
Kevin Durant won me over when he went Rocky IV on Russia this summer.
by blazeraddict on Nov 17, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
Right? ?
This is extremely and outrageously sucky, Your Honor!
"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview
"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread
by BlazersOrBust on Nov 17, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
I concur.
The capricious nature of the health updates given by One Center Court gave fans reasons to hope, which has now turned to ruin
Kevin Durant won me over when he went Rocky IV on Russia this summer.
by blazeraddict on Nov 17, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
Injuries happen. It's a risk of the game.
There is nothing in a season ticket contract that promises a winning team.
Proud member of the Toledo Computer Club since 2010.
by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not even gonna try
to say something witty. But I do have to say this is even worse than Bowie. Do we have any choice but to hope Durant doesn’t win multiple titles now?
We should have drafted Durant
by Captain Hindsight on Nov 17, 2010 8:06 PM PST reply actions
we going on a 13 game win streak
book it
/cambyfive
by CroRupt on Nov 17, 2010 8:07 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Yeah no point to dwell on it ...
just move on and hope for the best!
"Blaaaaaaaaaaaaazers, Come Out And Plaaaaaaaay!"
We’ll certainly be moving in a new direction. I’m guessing this is the official announcement for the start of that.
EXPECT TRADES
heeeyyyyyyy so dnrkhgu gotta go pl hdei and skeieek
I'm hoping is Cho is too smart for panic trades.
If it actually helps the team, sure. But now is the time to settle down and be clear-headed about it.
I will run naked through the streets if Oden wins the MVP this season...happily.
Trades could definitely happen
It feels like a shoe is hitting the hotel room floor right now. I’m waiting for the other shoe.
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
Lakers fan here
Just wanted to stop by and offer my sympathies.
Never ever like to see injuries for any player, but this (and the string of injuries last season) is just terrible.
Looking forward to the season when y’all are finally up and running and rampaging through the NorthWest.
Best of luck.
by KenJumba on Nov 17, 2010 8:08 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the classy comment Lakers fan
But we’re no longer anything near resembling an up and coming team anymore. We’re a middle of the pack might squeak into the playoffs but most likely be late lottery team. Yeah this sucks…
thanks Ken
Your pal, – Elgin
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
If you’re taking it personally, you’re doing it wrong.
heeeyyyyyyy so dnrkhgu gotta go pl hdei and skeieek
Not taking it personally,
taking it financially. I’m pissed they clearly misled season tix holders by withholding info about the health of the team.
This seems like it is a second opinion taken to the next level. I expected GO back in a couple of months.
heeeyyyyyyy so dnrkhgu gotta go pl hdei and skeieek
Are you drunk???
Or did you mean to say a couple of years??
Right, with the possibility of a lockout
That, best case scenario, probably will at least be in the air until well after the draft, means that many good players will stay in school another year.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
Good point about the lockout
at this point we should hope all of next season gets cancelled.
True
But it gives guys time to heal up, which at this point seems to be what they need most.
many good players will stay in school another year.
Yep. I feel bad for the seniors. They’ll be drafted, shake hands with Stern then have no dream contract to sign. For months
Why should any of the Euros declare for the NBA drat this year, either? They should all just stay home
And yet Bayless was dealt for another #1 pick and a trade exception. smh
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
No
But as far as I’m concerned it’s time to shop Roy for anyone stupid enough to take his (now) horrible contract and let Oden walk obviously. Miller and Camby have one more year (because Miller will obviously get extended after this), and Przybilla’s contract expires this season although we’ll probably have to sign him so … dear god.
by Seven06Renault on Nov 17, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
It's over. I hope GO has been smart with his money
Bowie over Jordan version 2.0, if “who did the Trailblazers select with the #1 pick” is the trivia question on an “Ultimate Durant” BluRay in 10 years I’m going to cry
Kevin Durant won me over when he went Rocky IV on Russia this summer.
Do we release him?
to make more roster space? Not much point in keeping him… not sure if we could trade his expiring contract.
I have nthn btr 2 do than spend time coming up with a clever signature
keep him
he has to play in the nba sometime in the next decade. he’s a beast when he is healthy
by blazerfan18 on Nov 17, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This is
the last year of his contract (since it wasn’t extended). It presents options…
I have nthn btr 2 do than spend time coming up with a clever signature
In economic terms
His contract is a sunk cost, pure and simple.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
No cartilage = problem
No Carthage = no problem
"Religion is the banana skin: spirituality is the banana." ~ Roger Nygard, "The Nature of Existence"
THAT IS AWESOME!!!
I feel horrible and you made me laugh. Thanks!
The curse of Tonya harding
She bashes someones knee and all of Portland pays for it…
Tank? No
Cant we have too much talent to suck, but not enough to make a deep push now. Stuck without some good/big trades or lucky draft picks. Here is where Cho earns his rep and his money.
So, any chance we have a shot at a title within the next five years now?
Barring a major trade, I don’t see how.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
Even if we miss the playoffs this year and win the lottery
Harrison Barnes is no LeBron James.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
And, for me, rock chalk Jayhawk!
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
Crazy enough, it's been a great year for me
I’m a SF Giants fan, Ducks fan, and Blazers fan. 2 of 3 ain’t bad I suppose.
Don't know about the rest of yall but I am still going to watch this team.
We have been through so much crap but thats no excuse to give up and go follow the team that has the most shinies. This is OUR team.
THANK YOU KEVIN PRITCHARD
Blazers fan since '91
REST IN PEACE MAURICE LUCAS 1952-2010 R.I.P #20
by rise_stand_resist on Nov 17, 2010 8:14 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
I've seen a handful of people on here saying theyre done with this team and won't be fans anymore.
THANK YOU KEVIN PRITCHARD
Blazers fan since '91
REST IN PEACE MAURICE LUCAS 1952-2010 R.I.P #20
by rise_stand_resist on Nov 17, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
Were they really fans to begin with then? A little optimism here please folks, yes this is terrible news but why does it immediately mean the team is sunk and we’re not going to make the playoffs?
I’ve seen posts from fans of other teams on here who still seem to think the Blazers can go on to have success this season. I’m still watching every game I can for sure.
"He's the one Natural One makes it easy, he can take it inside"
Yep.
I haven’t been a Blazers fan as long as everybody else here, admittedly, but I’m here, and will be no matter how bad this season gets.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
I generally agree
But I feel like that was last year’s mantra. It’s hard to do that again.
I have nthn btr 2 do than spend time coming up with a clever signature
Of course you are. You're a real fan.
The bandwagoneers can all jump ship and go root for the Heat.
#20
by dario argento on Nov 17, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
Forget the talk about Oden
We need to let the team doctors walk.
or break their knees
Seriously, they should just let the Doc from Vail handle this. If I was Greg I wouldn’t want Dr. Roberts anywhere near my knees anymore.
Sure things might not be looking great right now, but look on the bright side. I have liquor.
by Tyler Durrden on Nov 17, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
Agree
Doesn’t matter if they are all Marcus Welbys, time for a change.
by doomsdaymachine on Nov 17, 2010 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
You know what would be great?
If someone gave me a papercut right across my eyeball, then squirt some lemon juice in there right after that, and to top it off let’s rub some salt in it.
"We are building a fighting force of extraordinary magnitude. We forge our tradition in the spirit of our ancestors. You have our gratitude." - Rich Cho
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Nov 17, 2010 8:14 PM PST reply actions
So question...
Is it now possible to start talking about GOEC? Or are we not allowed to trade him until the off-season when we’d have to sign him to trade him? Because Iggy from GO and some other pieces is sounding better by the minute.
No reason u can't trade GO.
Other team would have to bypass the physical, but there’s no rule against trading injured player.
I will run naked through the streets if Oden wins the MVP this season...happily.
awesome
cuz thats a good chunk of cash as an expiring contract… roughly half of Iggy… and that has trade value especially going into the new CBA.
by avalancheman on Nov 17, 2010 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
I guess we can get rid of the 2007 lotter thread
http://www.blazersedge.com/story/2007/5/22/181439/582
Yellow Mamba FTW!
what's happening now doesn't take away from that experience.
I will always remember that excitement.
That was awesome
Only nobody would have believed you if you painted the true story on lottery night or draft night
I want to go on record as saying I really, really wanted Oden when we picked him. I was sooooo excited. I've believed for the last three years
that he would pan out. I thought when we got him, we could finally put the Bowie curse to bed. I really feel bad for the guy, his mental state must be a minefield right now. I have serious doubts though that he will recover from this. I have serious doubts that he will have an NBA career for any team. Hopefully if we ever get the chance to pick number one again, which is a terrible thought in its own right, we go for THE best player, not the best guy to fill the spot that we need. Make no mistake, Seattle had it easy folks, and nobody is right to knock us, but we gambled and we lost. This is terrible.
Sure things might not be looking great right now, but look on the bright side. I have liquor.
BE REALISTIC HERE
30 pts from Wesley, big game from Lamarcus, and nice game from Andre and we still only beat Memphis by 1! We are now mediocre with some ugh, “Potential” with a few more pieces, again. Forget the season unless we swing a major deal.
point differential is meaningless,
but this team, currently, is too light in the butt area to compete at a high level. Wes is the only meaty Blazer, and he plays on the wing.
And scoring is an issue. We have to work too hard for points. No meat, not enough bread and butter scoring- it’s going to be a tough road/
by damonrayhymer on Nov 17, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
Must...Vent!!!
How do you hurt your knees that bad doing supervised rehab? Botched surgery? I have really tried to reserve judgement, but Greg must truly not be built for the NBA for this to happen. I do feel for the guy. Good luck elsewhere.
Looking fwd to learning the whole story that has been undoubtedly going on behind the scenes…
Day One of Rich Cho’s job: “Rich, this is an MRI of Greg’s knees. He’ll never be a star in the NBA. He may never wear a Blazer uniform again. Brandon’s knees are cushioned by dustbunnies and prayers. Enjoy your gig.”
Someone please remind me of the assets we have sitting around that we can put together for a big trade. Expiring contracts, draft picks…
Wanted: A MEANER Blazer attitude! Knock somebody down and step on him!
The L*kers, The Heat, and The Thunder...the New AXIS of EVIL.
oh and by the way
roy and LMA have max deals and wes matthews is a $34 million dollar player. good luck with any trades you’re considering.
Yellow Mamba FTW!
Blazers new slogan..." Where #1 Picks Go to Die! "
Besides they aren’t winning the title this year anyway so by default they avoid the only other definition of "waste" that matters.
—Dave
Mike Conley Sr. is going to have to work some magic next season
almost worse to be him than Cho right now
This can't be true...
Mike Rice keeps saying how great oden looks in practice! LOL
by JamesHollywoodRobinson on Nov 17, 2010 8:19 PM PST reply actions
The biggest winners in all of this....
the non-Comcast customers!!
(sorry, a little gallows humor)
Seriously, for all the talk about how "it's not the team doctor's fault" doesn't this fall on them at some point?
Please, someone, anyone, give me an example of an NBA team that has experienced a run of injuries and slow recovery like this in the last quarter century.
I’m serious, please, someone help me feel better about this and feel worse about hating the team doctors and wanting the whole staff fired.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
I would think KP shoulders more blame than anyone...
fair or not he was the one out front in all of this. I think he knows that too since he is no longer living in Lake-O in his crazy house.
WHERE IS HE!?!?!?
Get the pitchforks and torches!!!
somewhere over by Tanasbourne Mall
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
You guys need to all calm down...
Plenty of players have had microfracture in knees and…. who am I kidding?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
by Escrote on Nov 17, 2010 8:20 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
come on guys. just relax. Greg will be back
Greg will rehab his knee and come back stronger than ever… We just have to wait for Greg to really be Greg… The injured Greg is not the real Greg… You guys just need to have faith… Remember when Greg greeted us fans at Pioneer Square? He was so awesome… He wore that little rucksack on his back and he bowed down to us fans and we cheered so wildly and tears were in our eyes just like when Obama got elected and we got all misty eyed… Don’t you remember?? …oh please say you remember and it wasn’t just a dream… We just gotta let Greg be Greg I tell you… And we gotta let Obama be Obama… Hope and change… hope and change… NBA championship… Greg is gonna take us to the promised land… isn’t he? isn’t he? oh please say you remember. We had the greatest lineup ever and Oden was obviously the better pick… No one, not even Sam Presti, would have selected Durant with the number one pick… Kevin Pritchard is our Genius! Our genius I tell you! Selecting Greg was the right pick. No way Durant is better than Oden. We just gotta let Greg be Greg. He’s the next great true center. And KP should never have gotten fired… He signed Roy to a max deal… And Greg is the next big all star center, just wait, him and Sergio and Rudy and even those white dudes in Euroland are gonna be allstars, that Joel Freeland he’s just itching to come over and dominate. Oh Jesus can’t we just let Greg be Greg and just leave him alone and rehab? I have so much faith in him.
Free markets have long been the basis for a legitimate - though rightly debated - economic policy framework. But they have become little more than a robotically-recited cultural catechism, a mindless mantra mumbled to mask the looting of the nation's resources that is the true purpose of Republican economic policy as demonstrated by the staggering upward transfers of wealth that inevitably occur under Republican regimes. A more complete, conspicuous, catastrophic, and irrefutable repudiation of right wing leaders, right wing policies, and right wing ideology could not possibly be contrived.
by dwarfgoper on Nov 17, 2010 8:20 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I appreciate your enthusiasm, but I just don't know where Greg could possibly find the strength within himself to start the rehab process over once again, and try to get back in NBA shape.
If I were him I would just try and get to the point where I could walk like a person, and forget about destroying my body further by banging it up and down a floor for 82 games a year.
Sure things might not be looking great right now, but look on the bright side. I have liquor.
by Tyler Durrden on Nov 17, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
when you want to use sarcasm
use the “at” sign before and after your comments
like this
When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
@ok I will@
Is this better?
Gosh, like I said, we just gotta let Greg be Greg.
Free markets have long been the basis for a legitimate - though rightly debated - economic policy framework. But they have become little more than a robotically-recited cultural catechism, a mindless mantra mumbled to mask the looting of the nation's resources that is the true purpose of Republican economic policy as demonstrated by the staggering upward transfers of wealth that inevitably occur under Republican regimes. A more complete, conspicuous, catastrophic, and irrefutable repudiation of right wing leaders, right wing policies, and right wing ideology could not possibly be contrived.
So Oden and Pende? Blair looks pretty good in comparison with no ACL's
Besides they aren’t winning the title this year anyway so by default they avoid the only other definition of "waste" that matters.
—Dave
Don't be a dope.
THANK YOU KEVIN PRITCHARD
Blazers fan since '91
REST IN PEACE MAURICE LUCAS 1952-2010 R.I.P #20
by rise_stand_resist on Nov 17, 2010 8:21 PM PST reply actions
haha
In hindsight, it’s pretty obvious the KP firing was deserved.
The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct
A diligent GM with the # 1 pick would have done the research
And the research would have showed that Oden was a sickly dude in 2007. Whatever is wrong with him, systemically, was readily evident in June 2007.
Free markets have long been the basis for a legitimate - though rightly debated - economic policy framework. But they have become little more than a robotically-recited cultural catechism, a mindless mantra mumbled to mask the looting of the nation's resources that is the true purpose of Republican economic policy as demonstrated by the staggering upward transfers of wealth that inevitably occur under Republican regimes. A more complete, conspicuous, catastrophic, and irrefutable repudiation of right wing leaders, right wing policies, and right wing ideology could not possibly be contrived.
I heard an interview with a guy who's been on staff for the Blazers for the last few years. He was one of the people from that MIT group of students that the movie 21 was based on.
Leading up to the Oden Durant draft, he did a statistical analysis that showed without a shadow of a doubt that Durant was the obvious pick, both on projected stats and risk of injury. When both guys came to work out for the team, Durant was said to have the best work out that anybody there had ever seen. Somewhere though, and this has been laid at KP’s feet since, the decision was made to pick for position over talent. The evidence was there, it wasn’t a matter of diligence, it was a matter of personal choice. I will say, at the time I absolutely wanted Greg, and thought he would just beast for us. I’m having trouble justifying my opinion and the choice the team made now though, to understate my point.
Sure things might not be looking great right now, but look on the bright side. I have liquor.
by Tyler Durrden on Nov 17, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
Ma's assertion was based on statistical evidence
if you look at production per-minute (i.e. pure talent level), then Oden’s been arguably just as good as Durant. The issue wasn’t uncovered by Ma’s statistical analysis. It is with Gre’gs physical condition. If you drafted Durant due to Ma’s analysis, you’d be getting the “right” conclusoin with the wrong process.
by Cablinasian on Nov 17, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That makes sense
Sure things might not be looking great right now, but look on the bright side. I have liquor.
by Tyler Durrden on Nov 17, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
I don't understand
How can this happen?
How does cartilage damage happen to someone who is in rehab?
How could they not see it sooner?
I feel sick.
"Sasha? That's a sissy name." -Mike Rice
heeeyyyyyyy so dnrkhgu gotta go pl hdei and skeieek
by fajunga on Nov 17, 2010 8:23 PM PST reply actions 8 recs
I Blame Bill Simmons for this!
Besides they aren’t winning the title this year anyway so by default they avoid the only other definition of "waste" that matters.
—Dave
Its time to hire him to our scouting staff
Clearly his analysis of the way a player walks is unprecedented genius.
Wildcard!
We will know if the Blazers are planning on re-signing him or not soon I would think.
If you aren’t planning on giving him a deal next year you might as well cut him.
I feel screwed!
Totally selfish comment, b/c I a sure Greg feels horrible about this, but damn!!!!! I remember how pumped up I was when the Blazers got the first pick. I started dreaming of Greg Oden dominating and the Blazers winning multiple titles. That dream seems dead now.
Why?! Why?!
Seriously.
We should blow this team up. There’s no way we’ll eve be championship contenders now. I’d rather sit through one or two years of absolute suckage on a path to greatness instead of turning into a middle of the pack occasionally low playoff seed team, or (shudders) the Indiana Pacers, perpetual missing the playoffs, but never sucking bad enough to draft any players that make an impact.
Keep Inferno, too.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
How much bad new cans this poor kid take
I worry about his Psyche more then anything else. I really think retiring is in his best interest.
Rich Cho "no one is untouchable"
The Onion was right on
Besides they aren’t winning the title this year anyway so by default they avoid the only other definition of "waste" that matters.
—Dave
What's the Qualifying offer on Oden's contract?
I know someone probably put it somewhere on here, but I can’t seem to find it on this post, partially because new comments are coming in at such a feverish pace….
Think the blazers extend it or do they Shaun Livingston him?
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Nov 17, 2010 8:29 PM PST reply actions
Ah, 8.8 million
No way the Blazers pony that up…. they couldn’t even consider doing something like that unless their owner was a billionaire….
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Nov 17, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
Making the playoffs seems like an overacheivement at this point
Unless Roy can get his quickness back.
NEW GOAL THIS YEAR
Sweet, play the lakers in the first round and get swept, get the #20 pick in the draft and take another Euro we’ll never see. Lets hope Cho has some moves up his sleeve.
I believe
the quality of a fanbase is determined on night’s just like this. This is no one’s fault. Our future is less certain but we are still TRAILBLAZERS!!
True
but you might have to change your nickname… at least by a year or more
I have nthn btr 2 do than spend time coming up with a clever signature
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAHHAHAHAHAAAAA
I laugh to keep myself from crying.
crawls into fetal position and listens to can i get a headband on repeat
We should get
another #1 pick because of how this turned out. It’s only fair. It is NOT a good day to be a Blazer.
That's not how it works
Nor how it should be.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
kahn begs to differ
Jeff Pendergraph:
FGM - 3
FGA - 111
Min - 30
Reb - 10
by Tofu Anonymous on Nov 17, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
In times like this...
You just have to accentuate the positive.
LA is having his best year.
Nic is blossoming.
Wesley really stepped up
Armon is a great surprise!
Joel is coming back very soon
Brandon does not need surgery
Dante is improving.
We will pull together and can still reach our goals…..
by Iluvdisteam on Nov 17, 2010 8:30 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
No we can't...
We’re not contenders anymore, end of story. It was an awesome dream while it lasted, and I’ll never forget the excitement that started in 2006 and really peaked in 2009. But sometimes it’s necessary to accept failure and move on. We put all our eggs in the wrong basket, and they’re broken now, so we need to go find some new, high quality eggs. /blowuptheteambutkeep88atallcosts.
by gtbassett on Nov 17, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That's exactly it....
Rec for emotional alignment.
"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion
best of luck greg
prayers and positive thoughts for you and your family
by wackybrak on Nov 17, 2010 8:32 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Joel Freeland might be difficult to pry away, right?
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
the fact that we are even talking about joel freeland makes me sad. he will never play in the nba for more than 5 minutes a game.
by deliverence31 on Nov 17, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
We talkin bout practice.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I feel sick for Greg. I hope the team sticks with him after all he's been through.
I want to cry.
#52
He hasnt stuck with the team and repeately went home instead of being with the team and took vacations to Vegas
Why should they still have his back when he has shown no heart? Other than the 20 milion he got paid for 82 games
Besides they aren’t winning the title this year anyway so by default they avoid the only other definition of "waste" that matters.
—Dave
by TheOdenator52 on Nov 17, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
You know what?
If you’re going to trash Oden at his lowest low every opportunity you get, at least get a different username. Otherwise, shut up.
by ParticleAccelerator on Nov 17, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions
Im not trashing him just venting and its common knowledge that he didnt fully rehabilitate like he shoulda been
Just dissappointed that the Blazer fans have givin so much heart and it just seems he doesnt care or if he does than it will come out how he got reinjured or what he was doing when he was suppose to be rehabbing for the past year
Besides they aren’t winning the title this year anyway so by default they avoid the only other definition of "waste" that matters.
—Dave
by TheOdenator52 on Nov 17, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
Is it "common knowledge"
If so, I’d like a link or something as proof that he shirked his rehab to party.
"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion
by RedUniInLA on Nov 17, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
actually you are trashing him. where is your proof?
you can’t make statements like that without having a link to back it up.
Lucas, then a Blazers assistant, walked past and said that nobody trash-talked like Garnett during his career. "Back then," Lucas said, "it was only a $50 fine for punching a guy in the mouth."
#52
I'd be curious to know where
microfracture becomes a resolution to perceived lack of rehab from broken bone. Please, enlighten me
what does heart have to do with a bad knee though? Desire can't take the place of his surgery.
Sure things might not be looking great right now, but look on the bright side. I have liquor.
by Tyler Durrden on Nov 17, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
Rehab is grueling
It takes determination, grit and perseverance.
"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion
Me too, Ann
I’m pretty sure the team will back him all the way. But y’know? If I was the guy I might want a fresh start somewhere else.
Wiggada Wiggada Zers!
At least we don't have Isiah Thomas as our GM.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:35 PM PST reply actions
Wow
Expecting to see more boring news about Elliot Williams and his recent recovery etc, I see this.
MAN.
Its safe to assume hes done.
'Sean Marks, Patrick Mills, and Luke Babbitt made like the three wise men, coming late to the party having followed the stars and bringing gifts of an assist, a turnover, and a personal foul.'
by collectiveshane on Nov 17, 2010 8:36 PM PST reply actions
Guy, it's April 1st
Yup. This is all an elaborate hoax. I will wake up tomorrow and GO will be fine.
The US will have no national debt.
There will be peace in the Middle East.
Car alarms and reality TV will never have been invented.
Cancer will be cured.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Blow it up. I'd keep Nic and we have to keep Wes..
Everybody else can be dealt IMO.. The vets should be dealt right now.. No use keeping this unit together to win 45-50 games and get bounced in round 1.
This team needs to be in the lottery this offseason.
Yeah, nobody is going to take on Wes's contract.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
I hope everything comes out about what he was doing during his rehab andif and how he got reinjured
But Im sure we will get more lies
Besides they aren’t winning the title this year anyway so by default they avoid the only other definition of "waste" that matters.
—Dave
I heard he bought Monta Ellis' moped....
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Nov 17, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
being a blazers fan since 2000 has been honestly horrible.
first we have a bunch of guys who are total idiots. then we rebuild and are horrible for 3 years. then we get good just to see all these injuries and now we are back at square one. wow.
I've been a fan for over 25 years. I remember the Bowie days.
Sure things might not be looking great right now, but look on the bright side. I have liquor.
by Tyler Durrden on Nov 17, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
He'll recover
It’s not the end of the world. So we wait another year, it’s something we’ve been doing since ’77.
I support Greg. Sign him cheap and don’t give up.
I feel bad for Greg and the fan base.
Just getting home after hearing how well Jeffs surgery went today to see that Greg will have to undego another operation. Here’s to all that are having to go through these things.
by Uncle Dave in NC on Nov 17, 2010 8:39 PM PST reply actions
He stay's active with it.
He rarely answers his phone but I can get ahold of him through text or tweet.
by Uncle Dave in NC on Nov 17, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
Not a phone person myself, so I get a kick out of that.
Anyway, give him our best wishes for a smooth recovery.
Wiggada Wiggada Zers!
who else's stomach dropped?
this is the worst feeling i’ve ever felt from being a blazers fan. i truly feel uncomfortable.
Resident Smartass.
Well, who among us
Honestly expected GO to come back around Christmas and be healthy all season?
I didn’t.
Proud member of the Toledo Computer Club since 2010.
by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
i thought maybe a couple weeks of floor time
but I was excited about it
by Peteyhasnohead on Nov 17, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, this pretty much ends this team's hope of ever winning anything..
Greg was always the guy who had to be great for this team to win a title.. Now he won’t even be on the team next season.
It’s over for this team as currently assembled. It’s very sad.
For me it was worse the first time around
Since then, I’ve seen what the team can do facing adversity and it impresses the hell out of me.
Wiggada Wiggada Zers!
Greg will come back
sign with the Blazers for a min contract and prove himself. I know he has pride.
Hey, I'm Paul Allen, I think I'll give this injury riddled player more millions because....
will he give me back some of that rookie contract? Common people, Greg is gone, or should be and wish him luck, he’ll pop up somewhere.
yep
not worth it at all anymore
'Sean Marks, Patrick Mills, and Luke Babbitt made like the three wise men, coming late to the party having followed the stars and bringing gifts of an assist, a turnover, and a personal foul.'
by collectiveshane on Nov 17, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
if greg signs with another team
and we also give him a contract (reasonable)
ima be so mad.
he owes us.
/cambyfive
I'll be happy for him.
It’s life. It happens.
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
Does it make me a bad person
That watching Amare Stoudemire get T’ed up was the one thing that was able to make me smile just now?
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by KeepItCopacetic on Nov 17, 2010 8:43 PM PST reply actions
So can we talk about the team surgeon possibly having Münchausen syndrome by proxy?
I don’t think its too early
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Nov 17, 2010 8:45 PM PST reply actions
or being in LA is a Laker fan
Trail Blazers Check List Since 2007:
1. Hire new Training Staff based on restoring symmetry to physical body.
2. Replace Nate MicMillan with coach with proven success at highest level.
3. Develop LMA's handles until he becomes Kevin Durant 0.8
by loyal_blazer on Nov 17, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
I guess we should be able to get another season of "On The Road with GO" out of this
Trail Blazers Check List Since 2007:
1. Hire new Training Staff based on restoring symmetry to physical body.
2. Replace Nate MicMillan with coach with proven success at highest level.
3. Develop LMA's handles until he becomes Kevin Durant 0.8
Anyone else think we should replace groundhog's day with GregOden's Day?
You know, have greg limp out and have the doctors take an MRI:
We see bad cartilage, 2 more years of mediocrity!
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
Uhh yeah. How'd they rehab him to a microfracture?
Trail Blazers Check List Since 2007:
1. Hire new Training Staff based on restoring symmetry to physical body.
2. Replace Nate MicMillan with coach with proven success at highest level.
3. Develop LMA's handles until he becomes Kevin Durant 0.8
by loyal_blazer on Nov 17, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe the league will contract and the Blazers can get the Suns' training staff?
"I’m tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok." ~Shaq
by Max_in_Missouri on Nov 17, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
i know we have a pretty good team and all, but man... it's oden
the once in a generation center… who we got with our 5.3 percent chance at the number one overall pick, the one we all know can when healthy prove he’s better then durant. he’s done… if we re sign him by some chance, he’ll never be the same.
this is a dark time in my blazers fandom sadly. say im overreacting, i don’t care.
Resident Smartass.
I don't think you're overreacting at all
I feel the same way. Greg gave me a taste of how impactful he could be and I wanted nothing more from this NBA season than to see him healthy…I figured everything else would just fall into place for us. I couldn’t believe I was watching live tv when it scrolled across the bottom. I still like our team, I truly hope that Brandon can be the player we know him as, but this one hurts a lot. Time for a new profile picture…so sad…I’ll always think of what this Blazer era could have been, and I don’t mean with Durant, I mean with health. It’s time for Rich Cho to earn his stripes and guide this ship in the right direction. Only 22 years old…I can already feel the day coming when he is beasting on us (I feel like if we keep him he’ll never get on the court, and if we trade him he’ll be a monster). Not a reason at all to blow anything up, but certainly a change of course. I will hold out a sliver of hope that Greg returns with a vengeance for the Blazers someday, but after this injury it’s very hard to imagine. Stay strong Blazer Nation, our passion for the team must not waver amid these injury-riddled times…and I apologize to anyone that that I argued with regarding Greg, I will always stand by his ability and potential, but without durability those don’t mean a thing.
by sammymohawk on Nov 17, 2010 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
^ this
Greg is a mountain of talent and there was never a question in my mind that if he was on the court he would dominate, but he does have to be on the court for it to matter. Durant is a real talent and folks were right about him, but there is no reason to dog Greg for lack of effort or try to blame him for the injuries. He worked his way back from multiple injuries and that is not easy. I expect he will work his way back from this too. I also expect at some point he WILL be a monster, but this is just sad, sad, sad.
I always thought that Oden was the BlazersEdge!; now it seems they have lost their edge.
Be well and get well Greg, and I hope you can figure a way to come back for a year on an incentive basis, show them what you can really do, and then resign long-term – I’ll hold on to this slim bit of hope while you are still on our team.
Life is like a box of chocolates
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Bittersweet.
Like a kick
in the manbacks. Ouch.
Greg, here’s wishing you luck in your future endeavors whether Blazer related or not. We know you don’t want to be hurt.
I think he’s doing the right thing by getting the mf done during a rehab down season anyway if he wants to come back. MF is often on the elective side to prevent further problems later. He doesn’t have all that many knee surgeries left to go and he’s covered every eventuality.
wow....just.....wow
I can’t believe it………… just……….. wow. Wha? ….speechless…. just speechless….
Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.
This is shocking, terrible news for Greg and Blazer fans. I'm stunned that our Window has turned to a brick wall.
I hope Greg is getting independent opinions about this surgery. His first MF surgery was explained to be an “optional” procedure that would prolong his career by preventing problems later. As I recall he went in for surgery not knowing if they would do MF or not, and apparently the decision was left up to the doctors on the spot. He found out they did MF after he woke up from surgery.
If this is a similar situation I hope he has got additional opinions to make sure he is doing the right thing for his career, rather than trying to play with some pain or whatever for however long he can before resorting to MF. We know from his experience and others that the full recovery time from MF is about 2 years. He will be 23 in January, so very likely this is the right thing for him to do. Even if everything goes well from here on he’ll only be 25 when he “starts” his NBA career (again). So likely he is thinking if he does this he may then still has a productive 10 year career. But who’s to say after 2 more years of rehab and putting strain on his right knee that it won’t be bad again in 2 years. I just hope he is getting plenty of unbiased opinions.
Any way you cut it (pun intended) I suspect we have seen the last of Greg in a Blazer uniform. The Blazers are very unlikely to make him a Qualifying Offer now. The Qualifying Offer would be about $8.8M (amount fixed by the CBA) and Oden would almost certainly sign the offer, which would pay him that $8.8M next year and then he would be an unrestricted free agent the following year. So they might as well let him become an unrestricted free agent (by not making the QO) this year. That way they could try to sign him again this summer for a relatively smaller amount (than they pay after his first year of rehab) if they wanted to take a gamble. Either way they will be competing with 29 other teams to see who wants to take the biggest gamble on Oden’s future, and I suspect someone else will be inclined to make a bigger (foolish?) offer. I suppose it is possible that Oden might feel some loyalty to the Blazer organization and agree to re-sign for a relatively small amount, but in the end I suspect his managers would convince him otherwise.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Nov 17, 2010 8:51 PM PST reply actions
When Greg went down last season, I was sad...
But seeing this news just leaves me numb.
Don't open your eyes and you can swim
http://brioe162.blogspot.com/
Yeah I don't feel any sadness or emotion to this situation now.
I feel like I’m staring at this from a logical viewpoint for the first time, and it’s telling me we should blow the team up, it’ll be better in the long run.
IN KP WE BUST
I am serious about this:
We need to re-sign Greg Oden now to a MAX YEAR, MINIMUM DOLLAR DEAL, with each year being at the team’s option.
This way, if he ever gets a year or two of service in producing near his 14/12 that I’ve been dreaming about for 3 years, it’ll be for the team that drafted him over KEVIN DURANT (28.4 ppg).
He OWES us that.
"Coach said to always be careful around Greg, because Greg costs a lot and even the slightest amount of basketball can damage him." -- The Onion
That's not permitted under the CBA.
"You're not too smart, are you? I like that in a man." - Matty Walker in Body Heat (1981)
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Nov 17, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
i say bring him back
for a really low contract. he knows he doesnt deserve a lot, he said it himself.
him for cheap > Some proven to be average at the same price.
i’ll take the chance of another injury for a cheap contract.
by Jolt21 on Nov 17, 2010 8:52 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
My disappointment is at least equal to this excitement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0pCtkxun9g
Chin up Greg, hang in there!
I remember the feeling very well of when we stole the 1st pick in the draft lottery
now I feel like I have kicked in the groin
I'm still going to wear my Oden jersey proudly.
He’ll be back. Hopefully with the Blazers. I feel really bad for the guy. I know it’s got to be killing him not to be out there.
However, I do want to slap Jason Qwick right about now.
http://twitter.com/JacobPennison
by IsWesleyMatthewsForReal? on Nov 17, 2010 8:56 PM PST reply actions
*Quick
http://twitter.com/JacobPennison
by IsWesleyMatthewsForReal? on Nov 17, 2010 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
DEFCON 1
We are now at Defcon 1. The apocalypse has arrived and it is time to abandon all hope. It’s only a small amount of time before Brandon Roy goes under the knife as well. Have a nice night.
by ToplessBlazerDancer3000 on Nov 17, 2010 8:58 PM PST reply actions
And doesn't it just make it worse to see Blake Griffin making a run at Rookie of the Year
In his debut season after sitting out all last year? Its killing me everytime they talk about how great he is after sitting out. Why couldn’t that have been Greg’s story?!!?!!
by SandyTrailBlazer on Nov 17, 2010 9:04 PM PST reply actions
it gets worse thinking Darko and Kwame had more productive careers by this point. it gets worse thinking that it would have been a boon if the lottery balls had gone against us! it gets worst of all thinking back to that season that ended with an
incredible fan made montage chronicling the Blazers at their summit before Frye and the rest of our bench were thinned, our starters careers/potential were dashed…when our then-GM was a prodigy not a pariah.
it gets worse thinking how quickly this franchises fortunes changed.
Please, for the love of all that is holy, please stop using the following: "Book it.", "FTW", "Epic" & "Fail".
...no seriously--stop.
why????????????????? maybe we should do something good here like retiring MJ's number? you think that atta get the basketball gods off our backs!?
this just feels so wrong. I really feel for the guy. Talent and potential was there. Maybe some things are just not meant to be.
Get well buddy! Hopefully you can bounce back someday!.
by FILIPINOblazerfan on Nov 17, 2010 9:26 PM PST reply actions
I hope Greg doesn't give up. I may on of the last Oden fans, but I still
believe in him. Let’s hope that he’s looking good in the summer.
Oh My!
On my way over the 18 corridor trying to get near PDX before any ice hit the road when the news came on 95.5. Almost lost control of the rig! I was disgusted when the first caller to comment on the news stated “Dump Him”. What is wrong with people? I thought we were this great town full of great fans….sick sick sick of these people.
How horrible this must be for Greg…my very best to him and pray for a fast and successful recovery.
Get well soon Big Guy!
wake me in 2011
by jstbeachy on Nov 17, 2010 9:45 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I always feared the Oregonlive posters would find this site
Unfortunately this is the thread that brought them all out. Don’t hurt yourselves jumping off the bandwagon. I’ll be at the game tomorrow cheering for the guys in red and black no matter what the score is.
by random_rider on Nov 17, 2010 9:51 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
It's going to be sweet.
I’m headed with two good friends, and one is a huge Nuggets fan.
I predict three hours of enjoyment no matter what the score.
dinasour type of guys choir boys
by mittsabishy on Nov 17, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
wow
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Nov 17, 2010 10:00 PM PST reply actions
"Flock Suffering" would make a good View title...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Sad day indeed
the news of the MF surgery does kind of make Quick, Canzano, and others who were saying Oden wasn’t trying look likes dimbulbs now.
All I can say is… if you can come back from MF surgery once, a cracked patella, and a Patella fracture, then doing another MF surgery is just another step in this young man’s long and painful journey. It will truely be a Trail Blazer story if Oden does return to the court for Portland and even better if he makes us great again. Don’t laugh it has happened before, it can happen again.
Good luck Greg. I will certainly be pulling for you. Go Blazers
Horrific and sad news!
I would fire the entire medical and training staff!So many injuries to so many players on this team cannot be just plain bad luck.Something has to seriously change!This along with the Roy injury will probably set the franchise back for years.This is a truly sad day.And once again Portland will be considered as making one of the worst draft choices in sports history.Choosing Oden who already had an injury history over the most likely future hall of famer Durant.
A little late to the party,
I step away from my computer at 7pm and everything was fine. Come back now, and this. Unbelievable.
I'm just going to watch this
…and think about what could have been…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZuaIPOAlbk
(Oden highlights)
As A Nuggets fan I am sorry to hear this
On a side note, its good to have less competition in the conference, at least you will have more wins than the T-wolves and hey.. you got Camby so it ain’t all that bad.
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"Cleavland got 99 problems but a bi*ch ain't one"
by CloudBurst on Nov 17, 2010 11:49 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
When do you guys anticipate losing Carmelo Anthony to the Knicks? Before or after the trade deadline?
"You know, when you are in the game, you hear 20,000 people behind you, you don't feel anything."
- Nicolas Batum on playing through his shoulder injury during the 2010 playoffs.
and here comes closure...best wishes go.
OSU '06
Trade for Gerald Wallace!!
by TyboOSU on Nov 18, 2010 2:01 AM PST via mobile reply actions
It's official: time to blow this team up.
I don’t like the idea of wading in mediocrity.
Hoping with fingers crossed to maybe, just maybe make it to the playoffs so we can flame out with 1 or 2 more 1st round exits in the next couple years? No thank you.
Blow this #$#@@ up and start over. Fire the coach. Hire Jeff Van Gundy or Mike Fratello. Rebuild the roster, collect some draft picks. As far as I’m concerned the only 2 guys who should be considered untouchable at this point are AJ, Batum, and Roy until his knees heal & we can determine his trade value. Everyone else is fair game given equitable trade value.
What are you going to do?
Are you going to cry in the corner? Are you going to give up being a Blazers’ fan? No, because you remember it’s just a game and there are more important things to worry about, like how Oden feels. You’ve got people falling off the bandwagon and suggesting Portland blow the team up. You know what? Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
Sometimes life isn’t fair, but the only rational response is to move on the best we can. Let’s root for Oden to get healthy, but focus more on the players who are on the court. If he’s able to come back, we can welcome him back to the fold.
Moving forward, I think Portland’s roster is still good enough to squeeze out a low playoff seed and anything can happen once the playoffs start.
I've been a season ticket holder in the past. Am a die-hard fan. But this roster does not have the talent or depth to contend. Period.
Telling people to not let the door hit them on the way out pre-supposes that we won’t still be rooting for or watching these guys play. Of course most of us will. I know I will. But I am also realistic and realize this team has absolutely NO CHANCE of a championship. Last time I checked that was the goal. The goal isn’t, nor should it be, winning 50 games and getting bounced in the 1st round yr after yr. You need a MINIMUM of 2 All-Star players in order to make a deep playoff run. Even Detroit which was hailed as the so-called “team’s team”, had multiple All-Stars or former All-Stars on their roster. In fact, all 5 of their starters were All-Stars at one point or another in the years surrounding their championship runs. This team has nothing even close to that. Telling yourself anything is fine, but it is not realistic.
Whose goal?
Basketball is an entertainment business. Are you saying we’re only entertained if Portland wins a championship?
Is it realistic to blow the team up? What kind of leverage does Portland have to avoid a fire sale?
Definately need to do the QC for Oden
If it works out give him another year and so on. Even if it does not work out next year we will have only wasted what $27-28 million on him over five years? Good chance we will have wasted more, alot more, on Brandon before his contract is done.
by LicketyBrindleDowntheMiddle on Nov 18, 2010 9:17 AM PST reply actions
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