Blazers Guard Brandon Roy Leaves Hornets Game With "Sore Left Knee"

first the “banged knees” then the “maybe an ankle” lol

SMH… Not good…

McMillen,
Allen,
Cho,
Lamarcus,
Trainer X,
Doctor Y,
Mayor Adams,
Someone,
Anyone,

Please convince Roy to take some time off, Fly him to the Bahamas for some rehab,
Tell him that the world will be all right, And find him a hobby that will hold his interest for next seven months.

Explain to him that Future Roy will understand and be grateful.
And the Past Roy who came back to soon from surgery during last year’s playoffs,
was far too eager, and a perhaps a little foolhardy.

Get well, B-Roy.

Personally, I would fly him home and sit him for the next 3 games.
There is a weird 6 day break after the 3rd game making the next time he would play Nov. 26th (nearly 2 weeks). Might as well sacrifice BRoy for 3 games than and get him 12 days off rather than playing him then risking him having to sit for 2 weeks somewhere down the line but miss 7-8 games over that stretch.

If he has problems after sitting 2 weeks….yikes.

In the end, this is most likely the beginning of the end of the Broy era as we know it (can you imagine him in 2014-2015 season?). Unfortunately, this will put the Blazers into 4 years of mediocrity as they will probably be a team that competes for the playoffs but not good enough to do much damage. Therefore, draft picks in the 17-22 range which mean realistically no new #1 guy.
Can’t do much salary cap wise as BRoy is max and LA is for all intensive purposes a max player.
BRoy, unless a minor medical miracle happens, is now untradeable as there is no team that will trade for a MAX player with shot knees as it will only financially strap their team. At the earliest, we could trade him with 1 year left on his contract for a team looking for salary cap relief the following year.

I have a feeling that Cho is going to need many many bottles of Advil near him at all times as IF Broy trends this way the rest of the season, he will have some interesting decisions to make.
Continue with the committment to the current team or go into re-build mode and hope to land a Top 5 lottery pick in the next few years which would mean, GO would not be re-signed, Miller same, Batum would be too expensive, and trading LA eventually for shorter contracts (believe too hard to trade this season due to being in the 1st year of his new contract).

The reality probably is, if the knees take BRoy out or reduce him into a shell of what he once was, it will bring the Trailblazers team to their knees for the next 4-5 years as it is next to impossible to realistically compete in the NBA when your franchise player is a shell of what a franchise player should be. Take out any team’s top player or significantly reduce his effectiveness and you are looking at a team that has no shot at winning a championship and most likely a mediocre team. They will be financially up a creek with an untradeable player.

Here is to some REALLY REALLY good Anti-inflammatory shots

So as I said somewhere before, in the Oklahoma game, we would either watch Roy progress, either painfully or joyfully. In that game, it is safe to say that the meter is within the middle, but really leaning toward the joyful side.
And now this… When I recently read somewhere he didn’t have anymore meniscus….
Man, I mean, I’m an optimist, and I HOPE that he can still come back strong.
To me, nothing is impossible. But in this situation, it’s going to take plenty of hard work, right moves, and a BUTT LOAD of luck.
So, what’s the next move? I say we further cut his minutes. 25 MPG still might be a bit too much, but sounds right.
As disappointed as I was in the loss, at the same time, I wasn’t really mad. I guess my expectations for this team has lowered, but I’m expecting my expectations to increase once Oden comes back, and once Roy comes back… at least in the form he was in in the second Oklahoma game.

Man, one hit after another. And it didn’t stop with the 2009-2010 season (how many times do I have to make that reference? Seriously!) I thought it would end, but no. It just carried over to the 2010-2011 season. Maybe, just MAYBE, our lucks will change once the year is 2011.
No, seriously.

Well, I’m talking too much.
Good luck Blazers! I swear, if we lose to Memphis…. with or without Roy, I want to win.

and there is no surgical answer, which makes this situation even more frustrating..

I don’t know what to do now..

Oden needs to become a total monster, and if this Roy thing goes the Penny Hardaway, Grant Hill, Mcgrady, etc… route… it may be time to start moving pieces (Miller, Camby, Pryz, Rudy) and get back in the lottery to get a young guard

Are we really supposed to believe that Nate, Cho, Larry Miller, et al were completely ignorant of just how severe Roy’s knee had gotten? Given the fact that Nate was playing him 39 minutes per game prior to Roy coming out and complaining about needing less minutes, that does seem to be the case. If so, what does this say about the communication between players, coaches, and management in this organization?

Alternatively, if the organization was aware of the severity of this problem and yet continued to ride him for nearly 40 minutes per night (or ride him to finish last season for that matter) instead of sitting him and forcing him to undergo microfracture then what does that say about their willful ignorance towards his health and sacrificing his long-term value to capitalize on short-term gain?

Either way you look at it, it doesn’t seem that the organization handled this situation very well. Perhaps this is only perception since the Blazers are not very open with information. But the way this all went down and was “played off” to the public seems to have caught everyone off guard. When you’re talking about your star, max contract guy I just don’t get how that happens.

W/Hill it was his ankle that was effed. Took forever to get straightened out.
Kidd is the feel-good microfracture story. Lost much of his explosiveness,but used his skill to remain a top player for yrs.
Amare is the poster child of successful microfracture.

From the outside this is looking more and more like microfracture surgery is coming.
It is looking more and more like the McGrady situation where McGrady was told microfracture was one of options(evidently that was also discussed w/Roy earlier in May) and team doctor(s) recommended going w/out it and instead strengthening surrounding muscles to take strain off knee(and wasn’t Roy supposed to have spent summer working out,shaving pounds off his body?). The Rockets tried sitting him on back-to-backs and resting him,but after a few months the swelling and pain grew too much for him and he opted for microfracture surgery.
Again I stress I have no info other than what I read on the web,but it is looking on the surface eerily like what Houston went thru w/McGrady.

If Roy eventually does go for microfracture surgery,keep in mind he’s still on the young side and played several yrs in college,whereas McGrady came straight from HS and had over 10 yrs in the League.
Further Roy seems to be in a much better mental place,accepting his game is going to have to adapt and he’ll lose some of his athleticism,whereas McGrady thought that the arthroscopic surgery and then the microfracture were going to return him to his glory days as one of the Leagues’ elite players.

We should have taken Chris Paul in the 2005 draft.

…if anyone in charge at Blazer’s, Inc has a brain, Roy will be forced to undergo microfracture surgery and sit out this season, rehab, and try a comeback next year.

Or they can force/allow him to play out his contract until his knees are slowly pitted and ground into a fine, chalky powder…and he becomes less mobile than Pryzbila.

Take your pick.

Grant Hill got a max w/out the Magic medically checking him out after his ankle injury in previous Play-Offs.
McGrady got an extension of his max despite concerns about his back.
Elton Brand got a max coming off micro and barely playing.
Amare just got one despite serious questions about his knees and eye.(Those issues were reason Phoenix didn’t offer him a full max.)

Teams are willing to pay for top talents and hope medical issues won’t bite them.
Other teams would look at Roy being able to play at a high level and coming back so soon in the Playoffs last season and would be willing to roll the dice.
Anyone here believe Chicago,NY,NJ wouldn’t have offered the max they could for Roy?(We know NY was willing to overlook serious medical concerns.)
Talk about a PR disaster in letting Roy walk then,combined w/Oden and Pryzbilla,and the KP firing would be believed to be because he wanted to keep Roy…
W/the last yr’s partial guarantee,bonus clauses that take place of the extra 2.5% raise the home team can offer a FA,the Blazers have for all intents and purposes simply matched an outside FA offer.

is to shut him down for a few days to give the swelling time to go down. Then re-evaluate, including an MRI (sorry Brandon, I understand clausterphobia sucks, but we have to see what’s going on).

With the “sharp pain” he’s describing it’s possible he has ligament damage or even a bone chip in the knee. If it’s either of these or something else that is treatable, obviously we do it right away. If it turns out that it’s simply a result of the bone on bone, he’s going to have to learn to live with the pain, play when he’s able and sit out when he can’t. This would probably be the most frustrating option for him and the fans since we wouldn’t be able to know what we could get out of him on a game by game basis.

If at some point in the season he reaches a point where major surgery is needed the only way to even try to put a positive spin on it is to realize the liklihood of an owner lock-out next year. The rest of the league might wind up missing time next year as well while he is recovering. And if things go completely sideways it might be time to consider the fact that the owners have already stated they would like the new CBA to allow teams to dump some players, pay the contract, but not have it count towards the salary cap. In this worst case scenario we could drop Roy if his career is over, continue to pay him but have enough flexibility to sign another max player (assuming Allen is willing to take the financial hit).

It all sucks, but we have to be prepared to look at this from a business perspective if necessary.

would that give us cap relief??

I’m optomistic… I think the up-tempo, strong D Blazers can make a run this year… Integrating Greg will be easier without BRoy. Expectations are instantly lowered, so they can learn a new system… Nate and Wes are a FINE #2 rotation…. I just think it’ll be interesting… an injury to BRoy is of course not a good thing… but I do see a silver lining…. maybe this team will start to jell….

I believe if we can get a grant hill out of roy we will be fine.
We have plenty of offensive options, making brandon rely on his BBIQ over explosiveness is what seperates us from the elite teams.
Derek Fisher – Jason Kidd – Grant Hill – Nash

If he slows down his game and becomes someone who magnifies everyone elses games then we are golden.
But we don’t know yet, we haven’t seen an official injury report. I believe the speculations will end up being worse than the outcome, let him rest. Let him play. I don’t think he will be top caliber night in and night out, but I do think he can still be a focal part of our team and his contribution to our organization has already made him worth every penny.
People were done with the blazers organization until the roy era started.
Give him time.
We get joel back on the 26th. Let’s see how AJ can do.