We should never boo the Blazers over Chalupas!
by rip_city_swagger on Nov 10, 2010 9:38 AM PST
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PrintThis is a brief post, but I was really irate last night toward the end of the Blazers-Pistons game and I needed to vent to some of you sane Blazer fans out there. It was ridiculous - Blazer fans were actually booing the team at the end of the game, despite that we were in the midst of a 20-point win.
Why were they booing? Because we turned the ball over on an offensive possession that could have had us break the 100 point mark, earning everyone Chalupas from Taco Bell. We ended up hitting the mark on a Rudy 3-pointer very soon after, and almost worse - as soon as Rudy hit that 3 half of the stadium got up and left.
Don't get me wrong, I like to walk away with some free food as much as the next person, but it is absolutely ridiculous that we'd boo our team in a convincing win (not to mention that it was a rebound game after that drubbing in LA) over a freaking $1 Taco Bell item, and that people are staying at the game not to congratulate their team in a win, but to wait for their Chalupa coupon.
Most people paid more than 20x that amount to be at the game - show some class and show the team the support it deserves. Portland is known for our great stadium and fans - we're better than that - let's show it
GO BLAZERS
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Taco Bell is gross in the first place, and has given me food poisoning twice. Anyone that boos at the end of a Blazer win because they didn’t get “a freaking $1 Taco Bell item” should just save the money they spent on tickets. Just think of all the chalupas you could have then. Seriously, weak sauce.
"I just played my game. I didn't do anything special. Just take the open shot, make cuts to basket, get rebounds. That's it." ~Nic Batum
And there's a recession or some sort of recession going on
A Chalupa has enough calories to feed a family of four for an entire day.
Didn’t Latrell Sprewell say he needed $16 million to feed his family?
$16M / $2 chalupas = 8 million chalupas...
Spree must have truly been the father of his country…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
agreed!
thing that REALLY bothers me about it is I go to see basketball. The concept of a game should not have a Taco Bell marketing scheme inserted. The fact that the stadium encourages the crowd to chant “Cha-lu-pa!” and then the bell/gong sound.. well, it pisses me off, because it says “you, the fans, are little more than marketing tools”. And I’m disappointed how many blazer fans buy into the hype. How ’bout some basketball without gonzo marketing at every turn?!
"Who ARE these "Lakers" I keep hearing about?"
Chalupas are nasty, and nobody should willingly put that into their body.
And no I’m not a vegetarian, far from it. Clearly though people are stuck on the idea of the chalupa, when really all they should care about is a win.
I'm a Greg Oden honk, yeah.
Even when I was still a Sonic fan, I liked Oden more than Kevin Durant.
by AK1984 on Jun 12, 2010 12:20 AM PDT
by Tyler Durrden on Nov 10, 2010 9:52 AM PST via mobile reply actions
I actually finally cashed a coupon about a month ago. I know it's fashionable to bash fast food even though
most of us eat it at least occasionally.
But they really are bad. Bad. The definition of bad. Gagworthy. Jackass 3D bad.
Taco Bell = toxic
The point of the Chalupa coupon is WINNING the Chalupa coupon…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
If people actually saw the conditions under which Chalupa ingredients were produced
…they would boo the team for scoring 100 points.
by NeverSummer on Nov 10, 2010 9:59 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
That makes me wonder...
Is Nate’s “slow it down” game style actually an attempt to save countless Portlander’s lives?
Hmmmmm….
by Rodney Gustafson on Nov 10, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I think you are on to something
His offense is a sophisticated, calculated strike against industrial agriculture/
by NeverSummer on Nov 10, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I used to work at T-bell once upon a time
It’s maybe the cleanest place in the fast food industry, which is generally cleaner than the rest of the food industry due to standardization. The ingredients are nothing exotic: ground beef, a fried tortilla, cheese, iceburg lettuce, tomatoes, onions, etc. A chalupa is high in saturated fat, salt and calories and low in fiber, but isn’t nutritionally much different than other stuff we eat with those attributes.
Even if the restaurants are clean the fast food industry has done more than any other
To further the industrialization and mechanization of our farming industry. In order to produce meat as cheaply as necessary to fill .79 cent tacos and 1.99 Chalupas and in large enough quantity to fill those in thousands if restaurants around the world, the practices and philosophies that these mega-ranches work under are absolutely horrifying. Contamination with various things happens on an all too regular basis, and lobbyists have pushed for legislation in the past forty years that has lowered oversight and inspections of facilities by 75% from frequency levels of the 1970’s. Yum brands who owns taco bell has also gotten in trouble for unfair treatment of migrant workers, and bad trade agreements that take advantage of foreign economies. Also the chalupa shell simply acts as a sponge to soak up grease and adds much unnecessary fat to an already unbalanced “food” item.
I guess in comparison to other fast food items it’s not bad, but compared to real food, it’s all disgusting.
I'm a Greg Oden honk, yeah.
Even when I was still a Sonic fan, I liked Oden more than Kevin Durant.
by AK1984 on Jun 12, 2010 12:20 AM PDT
by Tyler Durrden on Nov 11, 2010 7:36 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Meh
My point was that a chalupa is “real food”. Ground beef, iceburg lettuce, tomatoes, a fried tortilla … all stuff that is food. It’s not like they put styrofoam in it. Also, Taco Bell didn’t invent the chalupa. It’s a traditional dish from Mexico, except there they make the tortilla with lard instead of vegetable oil. It isn’t nutritionally great in either form, but Taco Bell or fast food in general is hardly unique in being of poor nutritional value, and contrary to what you seem to be claiming, you are far more likely to get food poisoning from eating at any non-chain restaurant than a fast food place, because the fast food places have far superior process controls throughout the value chain, including the farms. That may not fit into someone’s philosophical view of the world, but it is what it is. As for poor people getting dumped on around the world … yes it happens. It’s a terrible thing, but I have no idea why people blame MNC’s for it. I guess we just lack a counterfactual world where we could observe how life would be for the rural poor without major corporations, but it seems obvious to me that it would still suck.
Downer cows are delicious! But even more so when sprinkled with fecal matter and possibly tainted with human DNA from industrial accidents!
Stuff I mentioned is pretty well documented and if it doesn’t bother you than that’s fine. Most Americans would rather not know the practices and happenings of the corporations that provide our food, especially if they can get the food for cheap. But with the globalization of the food supply and the concentration of processing in ever larger, yet fewer facilities the incidence of widespread contamination is a growing problem. Consumers can make a choice with their money, they don’t have to give it to an industry that practices unsafe, unethical, and unsustainable business methods while continuing to fatten the waistlines of more and more Americans. So I won’t advocate taking the choice away from anybody, but I also won’t ignore or accept these practices, nor agree with the justifications that people seem to present for getting their cheap food fix. I hardly think any of this deserves a “meh”.
I'm a Greg Oden honk, yeah.
Even when I was still a Sonic fan, I liked Oden more than Kevin Durant.
by AK1984 on Jun 12, 2010 12:20 AM PDT
by Tyler Durrden on Nov 11, 2010 12:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
you're talking to a molecular microbiologist here, and conflating a number of issues
1) You’ll have trouble finding ground beef that doesn’t have fecal matter unless you have a butcher grind up a steak. It’s just not possible to render all the meat of a cow without getting some guts sometimes. You talk about chalupas and big industry, but here the problem you seem to have is with all the world of ground beef (from any source…), and while trace fecal matter is pretty gross sounding, it’s in many things we eat and drink, so that’s life. If you think that’s gross, you should see what kind of bugs are on chicken! That’s why you must properly cook meats like ground beef and chicken, and the ability to use standardization to achieve that on a consistent basis is what actually makes fast food less likely to food poison you.
2) Downer cows can be a problem since it can transmit the prion disease known as “mad cow”, which is why we generally don’t eat the nervous tissue of cows, and no longer feed it to other cows (since that’s how it spreads). Have you checked recently what is the incidence of mad cow, also called variant CJD? Miniscule. You may want to bump that down on your list of priority issues to worry about.
3) Human DNA from industrial accidents? I don’t know what that is supposed to mean. Is this about GMO foods, or body parts from workers getting in meat grinders? If it’s the former, then long story short it’s a non-issue. If it’s the latter, then that’s not good for the worker at all, but for the consumer it’s about equivalent to point #1 in terms of product safety.
But anyway, “meh” is my response because I see a lot of righteous indignation about chalupas, but the reasons given for it appear to be either real problems caused by things other than taco bell (poor consumer nutritional preferences, poor working conditions in the third world…) or not real problems to begin with. Like you said it’s a free country and we are free to choose, including the choice about what to be outraged about. I’m also passionate about wanting to solve the world’s problems, but I’m not seeing any reason to direct ire at the likes of YUM Brands for serving chalupas. The worst I can tell is they’ve made making bad nutritional choices marginally more convenient and tasty.
thank you for pointing out how wrong I am to not love chalupas and fast food, and I am just a cabinet maker so you are right to point out how I don't have a right to foment an opinion as much as you do as a microbiologist. Good on you!
as to point three, I didn’t mention anything about GMO’s. It was entirely about an industry that has high incident rates of workers being maimed and having life-altering on the job accidents, because of the scale and pace that these mega-slaughterhouses utilize in order to maintain their high throughput of product, and the lack of training and skill that many of the mostly migrant workforce have before starting work at such facilities. I did not include this or the environmental impact of mega-ranches as far as waste material, water usage and the ancillary corn industry in this country which produces the main food for these ranches at higher and higher rates which leads to livestock that is less and less healthy because of the environment that they live in, and because of lack of variety in their diets and lack of vitamins that they would normally get from eating grass and things in the real world. This means that the cows on these ranches are being loaded with antibiotics and medicines that would not be necessary if the raising of livestock was done differently. If the industry that provides YUM brands with their meat is so great, how come they do things like treat the meat with ammonia to try and clean it up? The problem is the consumer has, since the advent of dollar menu’s, begun to have unrealistic and unsustainable ideas about what value food has. Value has turned into a cost/quantity metric, but often does not include healthiness in the equation. From a purely capitalist perspective can I fault YUM for simply making a profit off of giving the consumer what they want? No, but the same logic could be used for the tobacco industry. If people want to smoke, then who are they to say they shouldn’t based on some really negative aspects about the product that both industry’s lobby to suppress.
I ran a food based business this last summer for one of the local farmer’s markets, and I used all locally grown, natural meats. I was able to provide a good, nutritionally-balanced portion of protein at a reasonable price, and had the added benefit of being able to drive to where the animals were being raised to see for myself how the conditions were. The ground meat industry in this country does not typically have this kind of transparency, and if anything we as consumers have a right to be concerned with how our food is being treated from farm to table. If you want to convince me that I should just turn a blind eye to an unsustainable industry that profits off of the sale of tainted meat, in ever growing portions to a consumer base that already has poor knowledge about dietary guidelines and a growing waistline, you have a difficult road to hoe. My point is there is an alternative for people in this country, and maybe if people understood all of the things that go into creating an overloaded food product for less than a dollar it would give them a little bit more incentive to make a wise choice with their dollar. If people had a choice to spend the same amount of money on food that is good for them, the environment, and the health of our country, who is in the middle of an epidemic obesity problem, than I would hope they would. But maybe I’m just an idealist who likes good food.
I'm a Greg Oden honk, yeah.
Even when I was still a Sonic fan, I liked Oden more than Kevin Durant.
by AK1984 on Jun 12, 2010 12:20 AM PDT
by Tyler Durrden on Nov 13, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
and the idea that these are not real problems to begin with is kind of frightening
don’t you remember the egg recall this year? That happened because of poor conditions at processing facilities in the egg industry. The plant responsible had not been inspected for quite some time, and only was inspected after their was found to be a problem. This to me is a scary scenario. Meat recalls from tainted ground beef often happen exactly the same way. Inspections too often don’t occur until there is a problem, and plants are rarely shut down. If their hadn’t been a salmonella outbreak this summer, that egg plant would have continued to operate under the conditions that they had been. I’m outraged by the idea that the industry is only culpable to use common sense and vigilance, when their is a problem. The scale the industry has moved towards has made the widespread distribution of tainted foods more prevalent as well. YUM foods buys from people who operate their industry with similar ethos to those that sold tainted eggs, and therefore they have made a decision with their money about what type of philosophy they wish to support. I as a consumer choose not to give them my money to profit off of this decision.
I'm a Greg Oden honk, yeah.
Even when I was still a Sonic fan, I liked Oden more than Kevin Durant.
by AK1984 on Jun 12, 2010 12:20 AM PDT
by Tyler Durrden on Nov 13, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Also the chalupa shell simply acts as a sponge to soak up grease and adds much unnecessary fat to an already unbalanced "food" item.
Sounds like you’ve enjoyed one.
I
Yeah I've had one, won't have one again...
I'm a Greg Oden honk, yeah.
Even when I was still a Sonic fan, I liked Oden more than Kevin Durant.
by AK1984 on Jun 12, 2010 12:20 AM PDT
by Tyler Durrden on Nov 11, 2010 1:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Even if the restaurants are clean the fast food industry has done more than any other
To further the industrialization and mechanization of our farming industry. In order to produce meat as cheaply as necessary to fill .79 cent tacos and 1.99 Chalupas and in large enough quantity to fill those in thousands if restaurants around the world, the practices and philosophies that these mega-ranches work under are absolutely horrifying. Contamination with various things happens on an all too regular basis, and lobbyists have pushed for legislation in the past forty years that has lowered oversight and inspections of facilities by 75% from frequency levels of the 1970’s. Yum brands who owns taco bell has also gotten in trouble for unfair treatment of migrant workers, and bad trade agreements that take advantage of foreign economies. Also the chalupa shell simply acts as a sponge to soak up grease and adds much unnecessary fat to an already unbalanced “food” item.
I guess in comparison to other fast food items it’s not bad, but compared to real food, it’s all disgusting.
I'm a Greg Oden honk, yeah.
Even when I was still a Sonic fan, I liked Oden more than Kevin Durant.
by AK1984 on Jun 12, 2010 12:20 AM PDT
by Tyler Durrden on Nov 11, 2010 7:51 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
hey those are delicious
i went to school in san diego for a year and the cheaper the looking place the better
Seriously!!!!
I had some dumb people yelling Chalupas behind me since we were at 87 points. And then other fans complaining about Patty NOT getting us Chalupas the other night. Seriously? People are stupid.
by Sir.Ludo on Nov 10, 2010 10:03 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
I once had a around 10 year old girl behind me
that chanted for Chalupas non stop from the second period onwards. Almost ruined the whole game for me it was so annoying.
It is just some good light hearted fun...
most fans probably don’t eat their free chalupa anyway. On a side note Taco Bell now serves Mexican food.
Yea for real
lighten up a bit! I was at the Raptors game with my kids and they were screaming for Chalupas, they’re kids after all (although they didn’t boo). It’s just a fun thing and even the booing is tongue-in-cheek.
by hellsfrozenover on Nov 10, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
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BLAZER GAMES ARE SERIOUS AND NOT FUN.
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by brandonmitchell on Nov 10, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
i'm not complaining about cheering for Chalupas - it is fun when we hit 100, for sure
like I said, I don’t mind getting a free one either
but when we boo our team in the midst of a win over possibly not getting them? Weak
Our team’s job is to win games, not hit 100 points so we can all get some free crap food
by rip_city_swagger on Nov 10, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
I wondered why people were booing so loudly over a turn over!!!!!
Seemed like the boos were coming from the other side of the court…toward the visitors bench area.
I wish the Blazers would change the criteria for the stupid Chalupa…like the idea the Laker’s have..give out the Chalupa if the other team doesn’t score….a certain number of points…or if the Blazers get a certain number of rebounds..that would be good..
Or if the other team doesn’t get an AND ONE basket!!!
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We don’t have enough righteous indignation in the world. Thank you for standing up for it.
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Damned straight! You tell 'em, brother!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I like chalupas as much (or not) as the next guy
But I can’t believe that some fans were actually boo’ing before rudy hit that three. Think about if he had hit a 2 instead? Sitting at 99 points, the classy thing is to dribble out the clock, but can you imagine the crowd if we had?
It’s pretty sad, I agree.
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(I have never boo’d for a chalupa but this is my take)
I don’t think the booing meant they were saying “YOU SUCKKKK!”
It’s more of (in my opinion) communication between the players and fans when they know the game is over and it’s for fun. I think people get carried away but it also doesn’t hurt anything as long as people don’t take it too seriously.
And for the record I love Taco Bell when I get a chance to eat it (which is whenever I get a free chalupa hahaha)
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by brandonmitchell on Nov 10, 2010 10:23 AM PST reply actions
It's just harmless fun.
The booing isn’t serious and shouldn’t be taken seriously.
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by pualo on Nov 10, 2010 10:29 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
were you guys at the game last night? did you notice? it was sad
by rip_city_swagger on Nov 10, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
I was at the game last night
It wasn’t that big of a deal. The team actually got a decent ovation from the few fans that remained til the end. I’ll agree that it’s not a great idea to be booing your own team but it was harmless fun. I didn’t boo, but now I wish I would have
you wish you would have booed?
that’s a great attitude from a great fan for you :)
by rip_city_swagger on Nov 11, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
when the overwhelming sound in the arena at the end of a win is boos - yeah its serious enough
by rip_city_swagger on Nov 10, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
were you there? practically the entire place booed on that Patty Mills turnover - where am I exaggerating?
by rip_city_swagger on Nov 11, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions
I was there and it seemd like the boos were coming from the section on the
visitor’s bench side of the court…there was no booing around me!!!
Your post reminded me of this
Before the game some reporters were making small talk in the locker room and LeBron said he was still a little upset about being booed the other night when he dribbled the shot clock out in the last few seconds when the Cavs had 99 points against the Bucks. 100 would’ve meant free Chalupas, which really seems to fire up the crowd no matter what else is going on. Truth is Mike Brown told LeBron to dribble it out.
A couple years ago in the same spot — I think maybe against the Jazz, but I can’t be sure — Andy Varejao went down and got a cheap layup to get to 100 in the final seconds. Brown was not happy and slapped Andy across the wrist.
Anyway, LeBron said “I can’t believe people who buy season tickets get worked up over a g— d—- $1 (blank) taco.”
So no we know the REAL reason LeBron spurned Cleveland.
Wiggada Wiggada Zers!
When a post reminds you of something LeBron said
that is not a good thing. It’s innocent fun. It’s enjoyable to get the chalupa. Part of the experience. LeBron and rip city swagger need to get over it.
I need to get over it huh?
so you’re saying it’s ok for fans to boo our home team in a win because they didn’t get a chalupa?
I’m all about the fun and cheering for Chalupas, etc. but booing the home team during a win for any reason is LAME
by rip_city_swagger on Nov 10, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I think that is the answer to that obnoxious commercial.
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I AM sure the players understand the situation with the Chalupas
They are not going to be dejected and think about suicide about failing to get to 100. They are very intelligent successful people even the bench warmers.
YOu do have a good point and people at the rose garden shouldn’t care that much over something that meaningless, The gas to get to a Taco Bell might cost more then the $1 coupon. Cheering is definatley the appropriate response to the end of that game.
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by Garden of ODEN on Nov 10, 2010 10:48 AM PST reply actions
But even the Blazers
via the big screen encourage the chanting of CHA LU PAS. The noise may not all have been boos as I have a tendency to groan at turnovers no matter when they happen in the game. I just wanted us to win by 20; I didn’t care about the freebies.
I’ve always given my coupons to the local food bank where they get passed on to the homeless. Not a good food source, but at least it’s food. Now they aren’t handing out the coupons at the door where we exit which is fine by me.
BTW, what happened to the promotion of no more coupons, just take your ticket stub to TB …? That lasted, what, all of one game?
It is just something to get excited about
also 100 looks nice on the scoreboard.
WITH ODEN ON OUR SIDE
by bowdown on Nov 10, 2010 11:00 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Happens in Chicago all the time, where the fans get a Big Mac coupon
And yeah, it’s nice when it happens in the flow of the game but stupid when that’s all the final minute is about.
I personally HATE the stupid chalupa chant!!!
For one thing, it usually means no Blazer scoring for about a minute or two.
And thankfully the RG no longer puts up the signage for the Chalupa in close games.
Please tell me you weren't one of those who left before the end of the game.
I can’t bare it when Portland turns there backs on the Blazers even if they are winning by twenty. I would die to be there to the very end.
by thebigoutdoors on Nov 10, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
why would you think I left before the end of the game?
Just because I hate the chalupa thing.
I stay until the very end..every game I attend.
Even when I have to start work the next day at 645am…to work 12hrs.
I did not think you did but I saw too many empty seats with five minutes left.
Thank you. We just lost to OKC by one. Can’t stand it.
by thebigoutdoors on Nov 13, 2010 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
MoodyFernandez addressed this....
Tonight I doing my favorite Oprah impression: You get Chalupa! You get Chalupa! You get Chalupa! You get Chalupa! You get Chalupa!
http://twitter.com/MoodyFernandez/status/2258285491126272
blah blah blah blah lame comment - lame commenter
by Bandwagon Butcher on Nov 10, 2010 11:31 AM PST reply actions
MoodyFernandez addressed this....
Tonight I doing my favorite Oprah impression: You get Chalupa! You get Chalupa! You get Chalupa! You get Chalupa! You get Chalupa!
http://twitter.com/MoodyFernandez/status/2258285491126272
blah blah blah blah lame comment - lame commenter
by Bandwagon Butcher on Nov 10, 2010 11:31 AM PST reply actions
I spent all my money on Blazer tickets...
if I don’t get that Chalupa I don’t eat.
by Escrote on Nov 10, 2010 11:33 AM PST reply actions 7 recs
Rice and Barrett were talking about this during the game
Rice said that some arenas have their give-away predicated on defense; such as free chalupa or whatever if Blazers hold opponent under 85 pts. I would MUCH prefer this.
"What we have here, is a failure to communicate."
by with_a_z on Nov 10, 2010 11:40 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
REC!
I have felt that way the entire team – we should get them if we hold the opponent UNDER 100 points
by rip_city_swagger on Nov 10, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
this is the answer
start a movement to convince the Blazers to change to defensive chalupas, instead of offensive chalupas.
by ItsMrHarris2u on Nov 10, 2010 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
all chalupas are offensive.
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by Milkbomb on Nov 10, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
They were talking about it because this is what LA does
1. LA should never being doing things better than us, but
2. Their promotion is for when they hold the opponent under 100 AND they win. Way way way better. With the benefit of their fans not booing a win very often, and the crowd helps keep the team focused on defense.
For us it should be 90 points or so. we play way slower than the L@k$rs. I would like this a lot more than the current promotion which ends up working against sportsmanship and enjoying the game.
yes, it is all in fun, but it totally breaks the spirit of good sportsmanship when it is a 20+ point blowout like last night.
Like you, I enjoy basketball.
I go to the games to watch good basketball and I want them to perform well and win.
However, for the majority, NBA games are about entertainment and that’s all this is. As you could see by Rudy’s smile after he hit that 3, it was all in good fun for the players as well. They knew why people were booing.
I wouldn’t ever boo my team, and I especially won’t boo them over chalupas. But people are just having fun, the team included.
by anupam on Nov 10, 2010 12:10 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Seriously
The same thing happened Saturday when we were playing Toronto, Blazers have 97 points and the SHOT CLOCK IS OFF and the fans were going nuts to get patty to shoot the ball, when the red lights went off and he did the sportsman like thing to not shoot the ball I heard boos from blazer fans, boos after a blowout win. Get a grip people, seriously.
The Camby man
Deliver the junkfood or get boo'd
What’s the big deal? Shoot the ball!! That’s all you gotta do… you don’t even have to make it.
The payoff is a big cheer from the crowd and everyone’s just little bit happier.
I think boo’s are totally justified when dribbling out the chalupas. It’s all in fun, and rankling a few uptight fans is just icing.
I hate hearing that crap at the end of the game. And its sad because sometimes thats when it gets the loudest. It seems some fans care about that more than the win. Those fatties.
by Taggs on Nov 10, 2010 1:23 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Last season there was an even worse scenario,
I can’t remember the game, but it was a very, very close game with not much time left, and instead of cheering the team to grind out the win, people repeatedly kept doing the Chalupa chant. Do people not realize that even with the cheapest ticket that can be purchased, that’s the same price as like 15 or so chalupas at Taco Bell?
The only reason i shoot 3's is cuz there ain't no such thing as 4's.
by cpt.morgan.ahoy! on Nov 10, 2010 1:30 PM PST reply actions
Yes!...and No! ....
I consider this a light topic. And in wake of recent events, maybe I just need to vent on a light topic.
Yes, I agree.
I was listening on the radio and the sudden roar from the crowd when the 100th point was scored was embarrasing…
Come on people! They are Chalupas…I think they cost less than 2 bucks…with or without a Blazer win…and they probably cost Taco Bell pennies to make…
You don’t BOO your team because you think you might not get your 58 cents worth of refried bean and ground beef…..I
If you can afford to be sitting in the Rose Garden…at any level…then your culinary and dietetic survival isn’t tied to the obtainment of a free Chalupa….I agree…tone it down…let it go….
No….
While I would say everything I just said….on the other hand….it’s meant to be a fun promotion….and most people do enjoy it…reasonably. So as long as we aren’t booing the team because we think they aren’t going to score us something we probably should feed our dogs….and as long as we aren’t cheering when we get them like we just got a coupon for a free Top Sirloin Steak…I say Let Them Eat Chalupas!
But things have gotten a little out of balance….
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
If I'm payin' $57 for a ticket
I can boo whenever I want. LaMarcus got a standing O. The crowd was behind the team all game long, especially in the second half. Some playful boos aren’t hurting anyone’s feelings…er, check that, aren’t hurting many people’s feelings. This is absurd to be debating, but like Krang said above, I can’t think about knee injuries any more
You can boo whoevr you want...
…if they are not on the Blazers.
Otherwise, get over yourself.
by Corvallis, OR on Nov 10, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
as soon as Rudy hit that 3 half of the stadium got up and left.
wasnt this with like 30 seconds left?
FuFu Cake Boy offense ftw!!
I don't remember how much time wass left
but as soon as we hit 100, it was like a mass migration leaving the stadium…they weren’t still there to stay to the end of a win, they were waiting for us to hit 100, didn’t want to leave and miss getting their coupon
kind of lame to me
by rip_city_swagger on Nov 11, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions
I want it raised to 110
Or maybe 107 and have a radio station sponsor it.
I used to go by tominhawaii. My real name is still Tom.
I disagree.
It’s the same reaction that people have when “their car” doesn’t win in the stupid little cartoon races they put on the jumbotron. They moan and groan as if there is some type of reward or satisfaction in being able to say, “I knew it was gonna be the red car!”
I really don’t think it has anything to do with actually receiving a coupon for free food. Rather its the sense of accomplishment or perhaps even the sense of comradery you feel when together the crowd cheers for something that is completely meaningless.
Shoot, even the players joke about how they think it’s funny when the crowd wants them to score. I figure, there’s a ton of kids in the stands too and they enjoy stuff like that. No biggie.
"I have contract with Portland.... I have contract with Portland... I have contract with Portland." - Rudy Fernandez
by Kroes32 on Nov 10, 2010 3:46 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
if you read any of the comments above
it’s not cheering for Chalupas thats an issue – it’s outright booing your home team in the midst of a win that is lame
by rip_city_swagger on Nov 11, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions
Do you think it's a "mad" boo?
I’d bet that most all those boos are followed by laughs. It’s just people being trying to be funny.
"I have contract with Portland.... I have contract with Portland... I have contract with Portland." - Rudy Fernandez
You people are ridiculous
Taco Bell is amazing, if they make up to $14 mil a freaking season they can deal with playful boos for not scoring 100 and getting fans a $2 value. Feed us!!
by BruceThreet on Nov 10, 2010 3:50 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
My apologies, rip_city_swagger
I was at the game and I cheered for the Chalupa and “awwwwed” at the missed attempts (no boos though). For this I am sorry. I didn’t mean to ruin your $20+ game experience, I was just trying to get the most out of my cheap $12 seats. I love the feeling you get when you cheer for the same thing that 30,000 other people are cheer for. I love it so much that I wanted to keep cheering with my fellow fans even after it was clear that we won. Next time I will remain completely silent until such a time as the on-court performance of the Blazers warrants applause. And even then I will limit my enthusiasm to a level appropriate to the atheletic feat.
Also, I’m sorry that I cheered when the fan made the $250 three-pointer in the first period break. That was out-of-line.
Blazers.
by Pelanderfunk on Nov 10, 2010 4:53 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
wow, why are you getting sassy - you should actually read my post before you comment
I’m totally on board with cheering, chanting, and celebrating Chalupas…no problem there
but the booing is not ok – when our team wins there should be no booing in that stadium
and for the record I think you remaining completely silent would be a step in the right direction
by rip_city_swagger on Nov 11, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
swagger
totally agree with you that booing our team is bad no matter what, but I think the reason there is some sassy-ness going on is the title of your thread.
If you would say something like “Booing the team for Chalupas…not cool” I think some folks would understand more clearly what your talking about.
"you eat pieces of shit for breakfast...." Adam Sandler (Happy Gilmore)
www.burton-arts.com (get u some)
I agree! Thank you for this post! I hate Taco Bell.
by lawalteral14 on Nov 10, 2010 5:02 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
What ilusorio Rudy had to say ...
“Sergio and I obtained chalupas to understand their power. We found them bland! Then Sergio showed that each one has 427 calories and 27 grams of fat.
Leaping upwards, we reviled the accursed chalupa and its pressure."
And then there’s the new XXL version: 650 calories and 39 grams of fat. Yummmmmmy! /s
Duct tape makes you smart.
I agree. The obsession over the Chalupa is just crazy to me. Those things are disgusting.
Why can’t the RG have a promotion with Burgerville for those regular cheeseburgers? Oh man those things are delicious.
Also, that stupid chalupa chant hurts our play every time, every zaching time it gets chanted during a game. I swear, as soon as the players hear that stupid chant their brains turn off and we go scoreless for 4-5 possessions. I hate the chalupa chant.
#20
I say keep the Chalupas...
It gives the players something to laugh about when fans go crazy over a free fast food item.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
It's embarrassing
As is the entire Blazer game “entertainment.” Does anyone out there like plain old basketball? These are the greatest athletes in the world playing the greatest game ever invented, and the Blazers’ brass thinks you have to dress their product up like someone putting lipstick on a pig. And judging by the reaction of Blazer fans as the team approaches 100 points, the Blazers’ brass is right.
Like i said: embarrassing.
I was born in '52, and I believe in #52. Hang in there, GO.
You too, Przy: everyone knows you're the heart & soul of the Blazers.
No need to be embarrassed by something YOU didn't do!!!!
And the goofballs that want to “boo” aren’t embarrassed. Wonder who they are and what their problem is!!!
Being a Huge Blazer fan
and a Huge Chalupa fan can go hand in hand.
With regards to the Blazers..."Now if you want to crown them, then crown their ass! But they are who we thought they were! And we let 'em off the hook!"
I like how the L*kers
and other teams do it. You get the free food if you hold the visiting team under 100 points. That way you don’t have to jack up meaningless shots at the end, but instead just continue to play good D.
"Look at us. We're just like everyone else. We've bought into the same, ridiculous delusion." - Revolutionary Road
Kid next to me was asking his dad if they were getting Chalupas even before the end of the first quarter.
The problem with the Chalupas is in games like that, where it’s the last couple minutes and we’re close to 100 and it’s a blowout. If it’s a close game, and we’re fighting for a win, there’s mild chanting (the chanting is what bothers me, not the celebrating, because the fans chant CHA-LU-PA harder than LET’S GO BLAZERS) but everyone is mostly decent.
Not to mention the scoreboard, screen, box banner et al blinking CHA-LU-PA – keep that stuff down.
I got my Chalupa though, so I’m happy. Know what makes me happier? BLAZERS WIN
Trade John Canzano
I am offended by your comment
I have a friend who died and I don’t think the term should be sued lightly on a simple Chalupa promotion.
I used to go by tominhawaii. My real name is still Tom.
by LukeBabbittFTW on Nov 11, 2010 6:02 AM PST up reply actions
See
I didn’t do the typo, I replied to myself. Totally planned that too.
I used to go by tominhawaii. My real name is still Tom.
by LukeBabbittFTW on Nov 11, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
I like to have a typo in each of my comments
That way, people who don’t like me, can still read my comments, and have a fun little puzzle.
I used to go by tominhawaii. My real name is still Tom.
by LukeBabbittFTW on Nov 11, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions
Ok everybody, back away and get your hands off of my banana.
Oh sorry…wrong thread.
I thought I was in the fruit post.
Romance me with that Roy rainbow shot which took flight from way beyond the arc and sailed so high that before it came back down to earth sealing the victory, it kissed the rafters and said "You're mine baby."
Hey rip_city_swagger
I got to thinking later, you might have thought this comment was directed your way in some manner.
Sorry if you did, I didn’t mean it that way.
I haven’t been here for a few months and low and behold – A chalupa post is the leading post.
True story: just yesterday a guy rises up out of his cubicle and yells "everybody, get your hands off of my banana". I haven’t stopped laughing yet.
I’ve been here 10 years and don’t recall anybody yelling about anything. Seems as though a few people left some sticky notes on his banana. I didn’t ask him what the notes said.
Romance me with that Roy rainbow shot which took flight from way beyond the arc and sailed so high that before it came back down to earth sealing the victory, it kissed the rafters and said "You're mine baby."
Let's change the Chalupa rules!
Let’s make it about defense. If the Blazers hold their opponent to no more than 75 points AND win the game, then it’s Chalupas for everyone!
As a season ticket holder
I can say the Chalupa crap is the absolute worst part of the Blazer experience. I absolutely hate it. It ruins the atmosphere of close, important games when people all around are more interested in Chalupas than the actual game going on, and in blow-out’s it’s just embarrassing the amount of emotion people put into it. It makes me cringe every time.
Taco Bell could get the same amount of exposure for their money of the Blazers followed the Lakers model of rewarding defense instead of offense by giving coupons out if opponents were held below a certain score, and it would be a huge improvement in the game experience.
the poster formerly known as sergioftw, in recovery
by NoLook on Nov 11, 2010 8:42 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Sorry for partying
Blowout games get boring, the Chalupa’s provide entertainment and fun late in games. I fail to see the negative in people having some fun on their night out at the game. No one is booing the blazers, they are playing around and having fun with a promotion that keeps people there for the whole game. Sorry I’m not sorry.
- Sam
by RipCitySam on Nov 11, 2010 9:37 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
who are they booing then?
pretty sure they were booing the Blazers for not getting 3 points on that possession
by rip_city_swagger on Nov 11, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions
They are not booing anyone
They are having harmless fun rooting to get a taco with their neighbors and friends.
- Sam
sorry, were you at the game?
they were booing, and they were booing loudly, and they were booing because Patty Mills had a turnover on a possession when they could have eclipsed the 100 point mark
they weren’t rooting for chalupas, they were booing because they thought they might not get one
by rip_city_swagger on Nov 11, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
I would be more concerned
if people were booing during a loss or close game than when people boo in the last few minutes of a blowout. I personally don’t like chalupas (because bean burritos w/ no onions are so clearly superior), and haven’t ever redeemed a coupon, however I see no harm in fans being into the team hitting 100 points and getting something free. At least people are still involved in the game. In my own personal experience when the team is in the midst of a blowout and close to 100 points the party atmosphere has been quite enjoyable. Its all in good fun. And I highly doubt that the players will feel personally offended by the fans booing at that point in the game. I think this is being blown way out of proportion.
With that being said I am fully in favor of changing the promotion to something more along the lines of what the l*kers do.
by ripcitychamp on Nov 11, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed...
I wish they would do away with the whole concept.
We should celebrate wins, and be there to support the team, not cheer a marketing campaign in the guise of a gift.
WOW
While we are at it lets get rid of the Blazer Dancers because it might hurt some other girls feelings she cant dance or look like them.
BTW…how do you know if the fans were not booing the beer prices at the Rose Garden?
Just sayin…..
"you eat pieces of shit for breakfast...." Adam Sandler (Happy Gilmore)
www.burton-arts.com (get u some)
I think the issue is incentive, but I don't want to emulate that team from LA
How about if we out-rebound the other team?
Holding out for Hedo
So Rip City Swagger...
What should I do? Should I admit that I’ve made mistakes? Should I remind you that I’ve booed before? What should I do? Should I tell you how much fun I had? Should I really have to have my emotions and words at the RG pre-approved? What should I do? Should I have my voice removed? Should I eat Chalupas or not eat Chalupa’s? Should I tell you, I am not a role model? Should I tell you I’m a fair weather fan? That I would boo for Chalupas, for free food, for crack? Should I be who you want me to be? Should I accept my role as a disrespectful high calorie eating Blazer fan? Maybe I should just not show up because you don’t approve of my fandom? Should I make you laugh? Should I read you a script during blowouts? Boo him, don’t boo him, cheer now, cheer later, get loud, be quiet? Should we just clear the decks and move to Seattle? Coming through here! What should I do? Should I be who you want me to be? Nah.
Quit telling people what to do. Sporting events are emotional experiences, and that’s why it’s fun. Peace.
- Sam
by RipCitySam on Nov 11, 2010 10:05 AM PST reply actions 12 recs
nice attempt at remaking the Lebron commercial
although by telling me “quit telling people what to do” – you’re sort of contradicting yourself
you’re taking this way too seriously
this was just me ranting (as I state in the post), I’m not telling fans what to feel, what to do, or how to react.
What I’m saying is the prospect of a less than $2 Taco Bell item should never bring fans to the point where they are booing the team in a win. The team’s job is to win games, not to hit 100 points so everyone there can get some Taco Bell.
Sitting in the stands, at a win (after we got our butts kicked by LA), I was pretty disgusted to hear fans booing our team for any reason. And they were booing Patty Mills, who barely gets to play. Maybe he knows why they were booing, maybe not, but either way it’s not a confidence booster for a young player like him.
Blazer fans can cheer, chant, and root for Chalupas, and I’m all on board for that. But I feel like we’re better than letting something like that lead us to booing our home team. That should never happen – especially for a junk food coupon
by rip_city_swagger on Nov 11, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
Dang
Chalupas are like $4 bucks here. We should work out a scam where we ship them here and then I sell them for $3 bucks and we split the profit.
I used to go by tominhawaii. My real name is still Tom.
by LukeBabbittFTW on Nov 11, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
I'm impressed.
Rec’d
RIP CITY - We're back!
by CyclonicWinds on Nov 12, 2010 6:11 AM PST up reply actions
I have nothing against Chalupas.
I have even been known to eat then once in a while…. with my own money! It’s kind of fun to watch Portlands granola-foodie love bleed through on this thread, with the attacks on Chalupas themselves as, well, a nasty bit of junk food. Which of course, it is.
I do have something against booing my own team over a stupid little promotional gimmick.
Dunno why people are missing the point here. I think that’s the core argument of the post. Nutrition or not nutrition, how much you pay for a ticket, blah blah blah is all kind of irrelevant here.
Don’t boo your own team over a trivial amount of free food. If not for the respect our players deserve, than for your own self-respect then.
"That really stuck with me and built something inside of me. He's a two-time MVP. If he comes in and works like that, then that's what I need to be doing." - Armon Johnson on Steve Nash
by conspirator5 on Nov 11, 2010 10:35 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
The point is that the booing is not meant literally.
It’s a joke and therefore it should be taken as such. Not all boos are created equal.
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
You sound like Clownzano
Its not about actually getting the chalupa, everyone knows those things are pure gut rot. It’s the fun of hitting the chalupa mark. F@@! classiness, why do we have to judge our fellow fans who you know are just having fun and not actually booing the team? Get off your fan pedestal and go get your self some victory tacos!
by hellablazed on Nov 11, 2010 11:11 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
not on a pedestal at all
it was just really sad to me to hear boos – regardless of what for, in a Blazer win. When Patty Mills turned the ball over – he heard a lot of fans booing him. Maybe he knew why, and maybe he didn’t – but that’s what I mean, w’ere really going to boo at a game we;’re winning because we might not get a free Chalupa – kind of tacky
by rip_city_swagger on Nov 11, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
rip_city_swagger!
If you or anyone else knows a way to get someone to change the rules on the challupa thing…PLEASE DO IT!!!
It would be sooooo much better if the reward was based on DEFENSE. That’s what they are supposed to be focusing on this year right?
Well make this a part of that. The Blazer people can decide what the point score or whatever..of the opposing team should be…
Just a suggestion. Plenty of people DO NOT LIKE THE WAY THINGS ARE NOW.
No one disputes the crowd wants to have fun.
as has been stated multiple times, the promotion incites the crowd to boo the home team at the end of a game they have won. it’s crazy backwards is all.
Change the promotion to Opponents Score in a Win or Hustle Board in a win. Whatever. Just stop making it about scoring needless points at the end of games.
Sure the players know why the crowd boos. It is still dumb. A promotion that gets the crowd to boo the home team at the end of a win is just stupid.
the post wasn't lost on me
I HATE IT TOO!!!! I HATE IT TOO!!!! I hate that we booed our team, WHO WON THAT GAME. I get it. I really do. You were trying to say that our boys deserve FAR better than to be booed cause the fans thought they weren’t getting free chalupas. You were trying to say that wanting Chalupas is not a a bad thing. An “Aaaaaw” is acceptable but NEVER a boo in this instance.
For the record
I’ve never heard the crowd boo when we get close to 100 but don’t quite make it and the game is close.
i.e. a 98-94 win
But when it’s clear the game has been decided well before the end of the 4th and a win is locked up, fans focus on the chalupa.
Big deal. Chalupas or not, every fan walking out of the RG in a blowout win is walking out with a smile on their face. The organization and the players know this. Most of the fans know this. The only ones that don’t are ones that take things in life way too seriously.
They were all just saying
BOO-URNS
I'm a Greg Oden honk, yeah.
Even when I was still a Sonic fan, I liked Oden more than Kevin Durant.
by AK1984 on Jun 12, 2010 12:20 AM PDT
by Tyler Durrden on Nov 11, 2010 6:55 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Whatever I like chalupas
" Yeah, this is pretty much me, every day. Staring at butt holes and getting my buzz on. "
Booing for chalupas...really.
I didn’t boo, but I sure didnt like the reckless handling of the ball from Patty. My biggest problem with the chalupa is when people are chanting it when the game is not out of reach for either team.
Didnt the Blazers have to shoot something anyways to avoid a 24 sec violation?
"When you've got Brandon Roy on your team, anything is possible" - Corey Maggette
I'm pretty sure people weren't booing.
They were saying “chaluuuuuuuupas” and it just sounded like booing because of the vowel, the same way it sounds like booing when Houshmandzadeh makes a catch and the crowd yells “hoooooooooooouuuuuuuuuussshh” or when Rudy swishes a 3 and the crowd yells “ruuuuuuuuuuuudy”.
"So I said, 'Supercollider?! I just met her!'" - Humorbot 5.0
Just be thankful
that the Blazer fanbase would never ever be involved in a Malice in the Palace type of incident. Or small scale rioting to commemorate a finals win. On the whole, Blazer fans are supportive and enthusiastic. That said, one should be wary of foods that utilize construction caulk guns in their preparation.
Didn’t Rudy seem to know what the boo’s were for in his post game interview?
I think instead of booing the fans should start chanting chalupa, chalupa, then there’s no mistake about what’s going on, and everybody realizes it’s all in good fun.
Romance me with that Roy rainbow shot which took flight from way beyond the arc and sailed so high that before it came back down to earth sealing the victory, it kissed the rafters and said "You're mine baby."
Reverse The Chalupa Like Most NBA Teams
Most NBA teams award a free chalupa if you hold the opponent under 100 points instead of the way the blazers do it by scoring 100 points.
by WasdstompGaming on Nov 12, 2010 10:34 AM PST reply actions
That's probably because most teams don't play at a snails pace like we do
Although I would love to see the promotion turn into a defensive reward.
Agree
I love Chalupas, and I would never Boo the Blazers. Just like I love Ocean waves but I will never do the wave at a Blazer game!
ALLLL Rudy Then!!!!!
Even when sober . . .
I love Taco Bell. CHA-LU-PA! CHA-LU-PA!!!
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