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Game 5 Preview: Blazers vs. Bucks

More of this wouldn't hurt tonight.

Game Time:  5:00 Pacific   TV:  CSNW

The Bucks present an interesting challenge to the Blazers, different than the last couple of games.  Both New York and Chicago impale teams on a sharp, superstar spit then roast them over the rest of the lineup.  Milwaukee has point guard Brandon Jennings and center Andrew Bogut but they're not near the level of a Derrick Rose or Amare Stoudemire.  Instead the Bucks are like a slow cooker.  They brown you evenly from all sides at a simmer.  Consider:

  • Jennings is quick as a rumor.  He's a fine scorer though his overall shooting percentage hovers around 40% because he shoots inconsistently from distance and loves the three-pointer.  He draws fouls and can pass as well as convert off of penetration.  He's averaging 16 points, 5 rebounds, and 9 assists.
  • Bogut averages 12 and 11 plus 2.6 blocks per game.  He can score from mid-range and in, face-up, posting, or off the rebound.  He's a good offensive rebounder.
  • Forward Carlos Delfino is on fire from three-point range, attempting almost 9 per game so far this season and hitting 46% of them.  He's a good defender despite being 6'6". 
  • Corey Maggette has become the Bucks' sixth man, averaging 16 points in 23 minutes.  He'd be scoring far more if he shot better than 38% from the field and 17% from the arc.  That said he's averaging 7 free throws per game and hitting them all.  Maggette needs no introduction to Blazer fans.  Suffice it to say he could be Luol Deng, Take 2.  40 points from Maggette would not be amusing.

After this the picture gets hazy, though.  The Bucks have some decent players.  John Salmons and Drew Gooden are a couple of "almost weres".  Neither one is having a good time so far this year though.  Both are under 40% from the field.  Salmons hits some threes.  Gooden gets some rebounds.  Luc Richard Mbah a Moute is a bruiser, defender, rebounder, and sometimes scorer for the Bucks at small forward.  Earl Boykins is a veteran, waterbug point guard reserve and Keyon Dooling is a gunner at shooting guard but neither are seeing much of the floor.  If the Bucks were a sausage they'd be made from  33% prime grade, a few cuts past their due date, and a bunch of filler.  It tastes good enough with a beer and a bun but it's not haute cuisine.

Back to the slow-cooker analogy, Milwaukee wins by playing solid, consistent basketball.  If they move the ball, get back on defense, rebound as a team, and don't get too three-happy they can be tough.  You don't know from which direction they'll hurt you.  On their bad nights (which have included 2 of their 3 games this season) they go iso with mediocre players, they bomb away regardless of the defense, they can't rebound, and they abandon each other defensively.   They suffer from a lot of "oneness".  They have one guy who can pass.  They have one guy who can pressure and force turnovers.  They have one guy with the bulk and skill to drive and create contact.  They have one guy with a legit post game.  They have one guy who can shoot deep.  When you put these skills together you get a version of versatility but only if everyone is engaged and things are going right team-wide.  Otherwise you see the opponent get in the face of the shooter, sag back on the driver, get in the dribble of the driver, and so on.  The more they try to force it the less successful each individual becomes and the farther the team sinks.  Having multiple options doesn't work as well when there's only one option at a time depending on who has the ball.

As always the Blazers will want to rebound tonight.  It's no accident that their two toughest games have come against teams having good rebounding outings.  The Bucks' main players can rebound but Portland should be able to match them, if not outwork them.

The Blazers need to remember that this team will happily shoot deep with the slightest provocation.  They have one player who can hit:  Delfino.  Keep up on him but allow everyone else, including Jennings, to fire away.  Brandon Jennings at the arc is far less dangerous than Brandon Jennings on the drive.  Sag off and make him prove he can lead his team from there.

Milwaukee sports a ton of guys who aren't shooting well.  Avoid giving them dummy shots.  If you make them work they'll probably miss.  Get back in transition, use the zone if necessary to shut off the lane.

Take your pick who to run it at when on offense.  You could argue Portland has a mismatch at nearly every position.  This is not to say the Blazers are superior at every position, but every Portland player has some kind of advantage on his defender.  You can't go wrong except by making it easy for the Bucks to defend by pounding the floor, holding the ball, and telegraphing that the shot's going up from the exact person and exact position where the ball currently resides.  Let the Bucks set up and they're as good as anyone else defensively.  Plus they can rebound your misses.  Move the ball around, force them to move laterally, make them make decisions and help each other.  Even a little bit of that should free up shots.

In short, this is neither a revolutionary game nor a revolutionary opponent.  The Blazers need to bring out the good aspects of their play this year and avoid the bad.  If they can manage that, this should be a "W", a very nice 4-1 record, and a great 3 out of 4 on the road to start the season.  If we see another Chicago-style deep, dish-less offensive attack, though, the Blazers will be staring down the barrel of their second straight loss.  Even more so if they're foolish enough to give the Bucks the lane.

Enter tonight's Jersey Contest form here.

Brew Hoop has got to be one of the best-named blogs out there.  Pay them a visit and say hello if you wish.  Maybe ask them if they'd prefer Bogut or Oden.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com) 

P.S.  I know it's a L*kers blog but Land O' Lakers has some great stuff from Luke Walton on his namesake, Maurice Lucas.  Read it here.

P.P.S.  All of my fellow Generals alums should head over to the Friends of Grant page or look them up on Facebook (link fixed).  They are trying to resurface the athletic field at good old Grant High, a challenge in these budgetary times.  Every little bit helps.  

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I believe i'm First!! Woot!

Lets hope the blazers do better this time!

by Michael Baller on Nov 2, 2010 12:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Off guard Keyon Dooling, whose career USG% is 19.1% and just 16.7% so far this season, is not a "gunner."

The Trail Blazers would be lucky to have a defensive-minded off guard such as Dooling on its bench, especially when compared to that diminutive runt Patty Mills. Oh, and even though Dooling’s shooting stroke has been ice cold three games into the season, that should change sooner rather than later.

"Some things you can't unsee, bro." (The League)

by AK1984 on Nov 2, 2010 1:02 AM PDT reply actions  

I knew you wouldn't tolerate someone talking bad about Keyon

No need to call Patty a runt though : P

The only member of the Elliot Williams bandwagon

by MadBlaze on Nov 2, 2010 4:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is very true

Trying to make him a PG would just be Bayless 2.0, with even uglier results.

The only member of the Elliot Williams bandwagon

by MadBlaze on Nov 2, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ersan Ilyasova

didn’t hear his name mentioned, but he’s a gunner from deep at the 4 and a surprisingly good defender for his frame. given me fits in the past

by sparks89 on Nov 2, 2010 1:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Wes Matthews back on home turf

Maybe he will click into better form. Or maybe he will over-try and under-perform. I’m hoping for the former.

I’m also hoping for someone in the locker room to say they did a disgrace to Luke’s memory last night and tonight is the night we fix it.

put a body on 'em

by RayBourque on Nov 2, 2010 1:48 AM PDT reply actions  

The only thing that worries me

is Cory Maggette. There are few players in this league that aggravate me more than Maggette. This is a game where I wouldn’t mind seeing LA shooting face up jumpers, because anytime he backs into Maggette he’s gonna flop. That guy spends more time on his back than…I think you get the idea. Other than that, we should win as long as we don’t let Jennings get to comfortable in the lane. After all, as Mike and Mike will remind us about 86 times tonight, the Blazers are the best team in the NBA on 2nd games of back-to-backs.

by Blazer_fann on Nov 2, 2010 4:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Luke Babbit, Dante Cunningham, Rudy Fernandez, Armon Johnson, Wesley Mathews, and Fobrecio Oberto aren’t exactly as scary as…

Jerryd Bayless, Rudy Fernandez, Channing Frye, Travis Outlaw, Greg Oden, and Martell Webster.

I think our bench went from an A+ to a C+ in a relatively short amount of time.

by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on Nov 2, 2010 5:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe So.

Our Bench is still new.

I am not knocking JBay, Rudy, Frye, Travis, Greg, and Martell, but they had their bad days also.

Our bench at least put up a fight against the Bulls and cut it to almost 5 if Babbitt hadn’t traveled. Do you supposed be was nervous in his first NBA play?

I wouldn’t be so quick to knock our current bench. They have as much talent as a unit, but need more time to gell.

hg

by BBK on Nov 2, 2010 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

This wasn't Babbit's first play of the season was it? Seems like he played in another game...

maybe it was the pre-season.
Anyway…how do you put Oden on the bench? TrentEdwards?

Also Martell Webster wasn’t stellar on the bench MOST OF THE TIME. He was way better when he started and played many minutes…BEFORE Batum was back. Once Batum returned from his injury, Webster started stinking it up, even as a starter..looking over his shoulder.
Maybe you should include Batum in your list of bench players…along with Oden. He was probably on the bench more than Oden was last year.

Frye was horrible. At least in his final year here. Every time he went in to play I just cringed. Very nice guy but not good off the bench for the Blazers.

Jerryd was good especially before other teams scouted him.
Rudy is still on the bench…so no real change there.

I will give you Travis. He was great off the bench.

I’d still rather have Dante, Armon, Wesley off the bench than Frye, Webster, and Bayless.

by Natsthecat on Nov 2, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bayless > Johnson

At least at this point. That may not be true for long, but you’ve lost two years of experience off the bench there. AJ looks like a rookie out there. Bayless had his not-so-great moments sometimes as well, but a lot less that AJ is now. Given enough time, though, he’ll get it together.

When the world knows Nico Batum as "The Inevitable", I'll be very happy with where he is as a player.

"Batum, who stands 8 feet tall with a 9-foot wingspan and never makes mistakes..." - Posting and Toasting

by ictoagsn on Nov 2, 2010 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Compare Bayless's game to AJ's at the SAME POINT IN TIME.....

As I recall, Bayless was no where near as good.
Bayless cost more…way more. And the Blazers got a first round pick out of the deal.
Also, Bayless would have been pissed with the amt of minutes he’d would have gotten this year…

And yes, Oden is better than Oberto….

by Natsthecat on Nov 2, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, that all makes sense

But Bayless at this point in time > AJ at this point in time. That’s one area that the bench has regressed. Give it a year or two, and AJ should be ready to fill the role B-Rex was much more, but I think he’ll be missed this year. Which is better, a chicken in the hand, or two turkeys in the bush? Those two turkeys will be a lot better down the road, but there’s a risk to letting that chicken get away while you catch the turkeys. I think trading Jerryd was the right move (even though he was one of my favorite Blazers), but there’s going to be short-term loss before you reap the long-term benefits.

And if anybody tries to argue your last statement, I will gladly call them crazy.

When the world knows Nico Batum as "The Inevitable", I'll be very happy with where he is as a player.

"Batum, who stands 8 feet tall with a 9-foot wingspan and never makes mistakes..." - Posting and Toasting

by ictoagsn on Nov 2, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

This game, ugh, worried about this one.

I'm a Greg Oden honk, yeah.

Even when I was still a Sonic fan, I liked Oden more than Kevin Durant.

by AK1984 on Jun 12, 2010 12:20 AM PDT

by Tyler Durrden on Nov 2, 2010 6:56 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I worry about all the games.

But moving out of Comcast black-out range and getting to see the game even with Chicago’s announcers, I enjoyed watching our lifeless starting unit.

BRoy was good against the Knicks, and LMA although getting decent stats struggled. LMA was terrific against the Bulls, and BRoy although getting decent stats stunk up the place. Maybe tonight we can see them both do great. Anyway that is my hope.

hg

by BBK on Nov 2, 2010 7:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Now we can see if a trend from last year continues

Last season, the Blazers were very good in second games of back-to-backs, but only so-so in first games. So far this year, 1-1 in first games, with a lethargic performance in the first game, which was typical of last year. Those lethargic games were often followed by more energetic performances.

Perhaps the Blazers’ heart wasn’t in last night’s game, with the news of Lukes passing. Maybe they make it up tonight.

It seems like an eminently winnable game.

by hercher on Nov 2, 2010 8:50 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow. Looking at the box score,

The biggest killer from the donut from beyond the arc. That was devastating in all facets; the 3 ball definitely did not go Rudy’s way (and taking 6 3’s and missing all of them reminds me of some truly awful nights out of Bo Ryan’s Wisconsin teams). Yes, not every shot is going to fall, but at some point you HAVE to stop taking the 3 and start trying inside. And vice versa.

According to Yahoo!‘s box score of the game, Wesley Matthews was -15 in the plus/minus (I had to say that, it’ll cross out everything if I do +/-). That’s ugly, and I hope he can step it up tonight.

"Ah gravity, thou art a heartless b*tch." -Doctor Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 2, 2010 10:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Who turned it bold?

I think it should be fixed now…

When the world knows Nico Batum as "The Inevitable", I'll be very happy with where he is as a player.

"Batum, who stands 8 feet tall with a 9-foot wingspan and never makes mistakes..." - Posting and Toasting

by ictoagsn on Nov 2, 2010 11:06 AM PDT reply actions  

haha "deep, dish-less"

you know, i’m deepdishless as well.

i could sure go for some chicago-style pizza right about now.

"careful, man. there's a beverage here."

by Oh. Em. Gee. on Nov 2, 2010 11:55 AM PDT reply actions  

I'd really like to see the Blazers come out zipping the ball around like they did against Phoenix.

I thought our ball and player movement that game presaged a shift in our offensive philosophy away from “Player 1 pounds, pounds, pounds, shoots the midrange jumper, then Player 2 pounds, pounds, pounds, and shoots the midrange jumper, then rinse and repeat”. We’ve unfortunately regressed in the three games since Phoenix. Regardless of whether the Blazers are better offensively when they move the ball and share the scoring load (they are), it’s just more entertaining to watch.

"One of the bright spots of the young season has been rookie point guard Jonny Flynn, whose name sounds like he should be the lead character in a Broadway Musical. "What are you doing here, Jonny Flynn?" "Why I'm here to court trouble, and woo a girl, and build the most fantastical contraption the world has ever seen!" -- Dave, Game 7 Blazers versus Timberwolves preview

"It was bad reffing...but not rip apart the fabric of time bad." -- The Arkitect, Game 79 Blazers versus Mavericks Post-Game Thread

by BlazersOrBust on Nov 2, 2010 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Someone should tell LA that they are playing against Chicago again.

..and that guy that looks like Corey Maggette isn’t really Corey Maggette….it’s his twin brother Maury.

Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.

by jenstcy on Nov 2, 2010 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep....for some reason Magget really gets into LMA's head.

Maybe Magget will be all thrown off by LMA’s new size/game.
Or LMA will revert back…sometimes that happens 2 steps forward, one back.

OTOH…maybe the Blazer’s offense will move ahead, now that they’ve gotten the one step back out of their systems.

by Natsthecat on Nov 2, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hope we get to see some basketball today

Bulls game looked like no-one even wanted to be there. I just want to see us play team ball and team defense…even if we lose.

If we continue to revert to bad habits and bad defense when things get tough we will never get out of the first round of the playoffs. We’ll continue to drop 2 or 3 playoff games with our bad habits and then get put away by a team that has it together on a certain night whether we do everything right or not.

Last night I would have loved to see the guys try and lock down on defense and just let the offense come to them. Instead I saw guys chucking up wild shots hoping to just trim the lead. Our rookies showed us how to turn stops into offense just before the travel call on Luke and nearly put us back into the game.

by poorwebguy on Nov 2, 2010 3:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Here's the deal

If the Blazers and the Bucks both play their games tonight, Portland will win. That wasn’t true in Chicago. The Blazers’ main task is to not play so poorly (in the style they did last night) that they turn the slow cookers into microwaves. Signs things are going wrong: Jennings is scoring in the lane, Bogut is dominating the boards, Maggette scores 40.

—Dave

by Dave on Nov 2, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

I just want to see the Blazers revert to defense when nothing else is going right. I’m going to put it on my Christmas list. Defense should be the last thing to go.

by poorwebguy on Nov 2, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

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