Team not happy at practice today...
Rumor is that Andre and Nate are having words. Loud words.
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suprised it took him this long
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Bayless (in a 2 guard lineup)
if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
#4
uh oh
oh, well, better out than in I always say. My money’s on Nate in this kind of power struggle. Unless Brandon takes a side.
Shrek!
Yeah, Nate wins this one. I’ve never liked Andre Miller, anyway. Not a Blake fan, either. Bayless isn’t the short-term answer. I don’t know who is, maybe I’ve set my standards too high.
by unblindloyalty on Jan 7, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Should be interesting to see how this plays out
And you could see it coming after the last two games where Andre played pretty well playing his “style”, but yet can’t sniff many crunch time minutes.
#52
Good for Andre.
I’m sorry, I guess I should wait and see what it was about, but Nate probably told him that Patty Mills will be starting over him.
"What I´m sure about is that I never had a gun. For gunfights I have the Playstation."
~Rudy Fernandez
The argument was over the fact that Andre told Bayless to make the second free throw
When both Roy and Nate told him to miss it. Or at least that was “one of the topics covered” according to Quick.
"Rudy is not everyday a shooter," Fernandez said. "He's defense. He's passes. He's assists."
Miller's a punk
He’s been a punk since day 1, acting like he didn’t want to be here and saying he had no other options during the media day. He couldn’t pretend for one day, to make fans happy? I’m tired of him and his chemistry killing ways.
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by iDea on Jan 7, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ditto.
"I don't always read blogs regarding the Trail Blazers
...but when I do... I read Blazers Edge."
- resurrect_ha28
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jan 7, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
How is he a punk?
Seriously, what has he done besides vent frustrations? He has NEVER had problems with other teams in his entire career and players never have anything bad to say about him.
Really, is “punk” the right word?
"What I´m sure about is that I never had a gun. For gunfights I have the Playstation."
~Rudy Fernandez
by twiggs on Jan 7, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Like I said in my post (Everybody Stay Calm!)...
…I’m worried that Portland is going to get a bad reputation and be even more of a less-desirable destination thatn it already is. Just like Twiggs said, he has never had any problems like this in the 11 years he’s been a pro and also while playing for Majerus in Utah – not untill he came to Portland to play for the Trailblazers.
Get well soon, G.O.
#52
I agree
As usual, we are probably making too big of a deal. As fans, we do tend to over-react on things. While it is possible that the team might self-destruct because of this, it is more likely that it’ll be business as usual or the team might get better.
I suspect Roy calling a team meeting by next day or so to calm this down.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
Hmmm...
Why didn’t anyone go after him this summer? Why have other teams traded him in the middle of a season. Dont tell me “its a business”. From day one I did not get the love affair with Miller. He has done good for underachiving teams and has shown he cannot get any of them past the first round.
Its delightful, its delicious, its delug
Can't argue with you based on the facts.
But everything I’ve ever read about the guy – from Rick Majerus to Cleveland, LA, Denver, and Philly – they love him. They were all teams in situations where Andre wouldn’t be able to save them and he was to most attractive player to be moved (actually, a good sign for him). Denver didn’t recover from trading Andre until they aqcuired Billups. Cleveland was terrible until they got LeBron, and Philly went from a playoff team to a rebuilding project real quick.
I don’t think you can blame Andre for not getting any of the teams he has played on out of the first round. There a re A LOT of good players in this league who have, at one point or another, played for the Clippers.
Get well soon, G.O.
#52
can't find the link right now
but he did not have a great attitude while playing for the Clippers.
I mean, you can’t blame him. many players, sportswriters, and fans have felt the same way about the Clippers. but still.
oh man, I think I'm average like, ten points, like, twelve, thirteen dimes, like two, three assists, and about four, five rebounds, and if we need me to play, play a different position, I might get a little bit more.
LA?
He was NOT liked in LA, and his time there turned into a total disaster.
Denver didn’t recover from trading him because they traded him for AI.
Philly went to rebuilding project because, well, they decided to rebuild.
This is not quite as one-sided as you make it out to be.
#5 #10 #52 #88
Philly did not decide to re-build.
They thought they were going to compete for a playoff pot without Andre. Seeing as it is the eastern conference, I guess everybody is competing for that eigth spot – regardless of record. But Philly did not trade Andre because they decided to rebuild – not with Brand, Iggy, and Dalembert’s contracts. Even if they did trade him because they were rebuilding…that wouldn’t mean they let him go because they did not like him.
Get well soon, G.O.
#52
Punk may be too much
But that’s what popped into my head immediately after reading that garbage interview with Brian Smith a couple weeks back. 2 garbage interviews in less than half a season is a bit much. The fact that he’s played on 5 teams in 11 or 12 years, says something.
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I think Juwann howard has played on quite a few teams..at least 9 in his 16 years. What does that
say about him? Philly would love to get Miller back. I do know this. Miller hasn’t made things easier by not being all media ready. I think he just didn’t get a fair chance here. I think he was telling the truth. He didn’t. Blake is a wonderful guy etc. but is not a player who should start over Miller. Put yourself in Miller’s situation. He wants to bring this team wins. He wants to be on a team that is winning. And then he has to watch Blake start…Bayless play ahead of him in crunch time against Memphis. All of a sudden McMillan decides to ride the hot hand…sure seems like an odd time to play THIS card when all along he has NOT done this. Anyway, I think Miller will not be the only veteran who will find similar greetings from Nate. Watch.
Philly did NOT want Miller back
and I doubt they do now, either.
Do you have anything that suggests they want him back?
#5 #10 #52 #88
Exactly. I'm soo tired of the over reactions and assumptions against Miller.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
?
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bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Bayless (in a 2 guard lineup)
if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
#4
#24
by thomasikehara on Jan 7, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
Wow!
This could get out of control quickly.
My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.
I am sure the company line will be that it was a constructive conversation
And this stuff “happens all the time during the season”
#52
by blazermaniac32 on Jan 7, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Eh, I'm afraid that might be the spin but not the reality, though
It doesn’t matter if that’s what they call. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Nate go Sarge on this and shut Miller down even more than he already has. His way or the highway, and it looks like Miller might be intentionally or intentionally choosing the highway. Ugghhh. This sucks, as I love me some Miller, but it looks like Nate just doesn’t want to play his way, and we know who will win that one.
Yes Nate will win that exchange.
It was nice having someone who create on their own other than Roy and occasionally Aldridge. Adding Miller hasn’t been right since the beginning, and that’s a shame because we could use him.
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by blazermaniac32 on Jan 7, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
And guess what? You know who will LOSE this one? It WON'T be Miller. It will be the fans.
And the teammates who would have continued to benefit from Miller’s style of play.
Andre's way of forcing a trade?
If you let them make you, they'll make you into paper mache.
At a distance you're strong until the wind comes, then you'll crumble and blow away.
- Incubus
miller can talk??
Miller shouted throughout the exchange
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Bayless (in a 2 guard lineup)
if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
#4
by thomasikehara on Jan 7, 2010 11:57 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Dam sounds like Miller and Nates egos are not meshing...
too bad this team needs less jump shooters and more attackers. I think both Dre and McMillian are to blame though. McMillan wanted a veteran PG but wasn’t willing to give him the keys. Sounds like there is a lot we don’t know.
As a collegiate athlete, Miller was coached by Rick Majerus...
…who is legendary for yelling at his players.
But that was a long time ago… Miller’s had a lot of coaches since then; I wonder how many had “strong personalities.”
Miller’s was on a great streak; this is really unfortunate. And unprofessional.
IE, the way that is totally ineffective for your skill set
Why the hay did you want him in the first place, Nate.
Like taking advantage of size mismatches?
Or playing one on four clear out?
#52
by blazermaniac32 on Jan 7, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, that was a significant quote
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
by dan_the_man on Jan 7, 2010 12:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
High Comedy
Look at Ben’s caption under the picture of Miller on the Memphis Media report. Ben is clairvoyant!
#52
by blazermaniac32 on Jan 7, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
There is no reading between the lines with that quote.
Ouch, man this sucks cause I’ve liked what I seen from Miller in the last couple of games. He’s really helping take some of the offensive load off of BRoy lately. Some one turn down the bunson burner cause this chemistry is about to explode.
I’m curious to what kind of crap Andre felt like he didn’t have to take? 4th quarter benchings?
"When you've got Brandon Roy on your team, anything is possible" - Corey Maggette
Growing pains
I’m not worried (yet), but I’m very curious to see where this goes. We’ll likely find out tomorrow night.
Still on the Rex bandwagon.
by dan_the_man on Jan 7, 2010 12:03 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Man, I hope you're right, and I was wrong (above)
There is a chance I suppose that a closed door meeting after the fact might allow them to find some common ground, but so far there hasn’t been a sign of that all year…[crosses fingers]
This was basically the counter-argument
that Dave has been giving us for the past 4 years whenever anyone was advocating that we bench Blake/Jack for Sergio/Bayless to “develop” them. When guys are getting PT for reasons other than simply “we need to maximize are chances of winning this game tonight”, players react badly.
#52
violent practices
have led to winning streaks in the past — I seem to recall Webs. and Przy going at it in one practice, Blake throwing a chair, etc. — and the end in those cases was improved team play. Somehow, though, what we’ve heard of this one so far sounds a bit different.
frustration and 30 minute shouting maches are diferent
i hope it works out though
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Bayless (in a 2 guard lineup)
if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
#4
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by thomasikehara on Jan 7, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
Here is an update to the blog linked above
“I encourage open and honest dialogue, I think that is always good,‘’ Pritchard said. "I think it can be (healthy). We have the ability to take it one of two ways and I believe in the character of this team, and you know, I think we can come together.’’
Pritchard said the exchange was “normal”.
“On every team I have ever been on … guys have opportunity to speak what they feel. That’s OK. The question is, can we become better because of it. Either you can or you can’t. I’m hoping we can.’’
Pritchard and McMillan both said there would be no punishment forthcoming.
“Absolutely not,‘’ Pritchard said. "We don’t muzzle people. It’s like being in a marriage. If you don’t say something it builds and builds, then it’s said, and when it is and it is honest and open, you can get better from it.’’
McMillan was sharp when asked about the exchange between he and Miller.
“I’m not going to comment on my talk with the team. It wasn’t with Andre, it was with the team,‘’ McMillan said. "We talked as a group.’’
bayless leaves over my dead body
Start Bayless (in a 2 guard lineup)
if you should strike Oden down he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine
#52
#4
#24
Miller told Bayless to make the free throw???
When did that fact come out? Verified?
ps: tominhawaii has a stiffy right now.
The free throw stuff is just the spark
a symptom of an underlying problem that has been building. Regardless of what happened in that situation, the real issue here is Andre’s role with the team. If Nate did say “You don’t play the way we want to play”, then that is very very telling, and underscores what’s been obvious to most people all season.
Andre is obviously frustrated with his role on this team, and I think whether you agree with his role or think it should be something more, it’s hard not to understand where his frustrations have been coming from all season.
For me, it’s hard not to hold Nate at least partially accountable for this mess. He should have been much more clear with Andre from day 1. The appearances seem to be that he’s been stringing him along and talking out of both sides of his mouth since training camp opened.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
your last paragraph = right on the money
it’s absolutely ridiculous that they would bring in miller and not even give him the chance to play as the sole, #1, starting PG. WHY bring him in if you’re not gonna even give him a fair shot??
Hell, the past week is really the 1st time he’s been the unquestioned starting PG and he’s been FANTASTIC!!!
totally agree with douglast and pdxrob
you could tell from andre’s demeanor in his first interviews this training camp that he was annoyed by nate saying the job was blake’s. he was trying to be professional about it and say the right things, but it was easy to read between the lines.
i guess i just saw it differently
it’s pretty hard, i’d say, to hide disappointment when you’ve just been recruited to a team, always been a starter – and a good one at that – and then told that, of all people, steve blake is going to get those minutes. i never faulted him for sounding annoyed by that.
i guess i was just happy he wasn’t spouting off to the media and causing a HUGE stir.
Yeah...if someone told me that I have to take a backseat to someone on a project,
when that person is half as qualified as I am, I’d be pretty unhappy about the situation as well.
It’s all for the good of the team and such, but it doesn’t mean that the person in the situation won’t be disappointed. It’s just human nature.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
if Nate and KP told him he was gonna have a fair shot at starting...
then that wasn’t professional, either, because the way it all played out it was painfully obvious that he did NOT get a fair shot at starting.
We don't know if Nate told him that
For all we know, Miller could have said all the right things to get signed because he had no other options out there. NO teams were beating down his door.
I’m not saying he did that, but there’s a chance of it, just like there was a chance Nate told him he’d start. We just don’t know.
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We DO know that Nate stated at the start of the season that the "players will EARN their starting roles"
That statement is ON RECORD. I watched the pre-season games. I was there. Miller out played Blake by MILES. Yet, Nate did the 180 and started Blake. Now if Nate said from the BEGINNING…“I am going with the starters who 54 games for us last year” (and went on to be tossed out of the first round with Brandon asking for HELP) then fine…Andre would be disappointed and perhaps SHOCKED but at least he would have been told the TRUTH from the start of the season.
come on, he hasn't had a fair shot?
The guy wasn’t playing 5 minutes a game, he was playing 25-35. And he wasn’t playing well in those minutes.
Everybody’s saying that the free throw thing isn’t a big deal. ARE YOU KIDDING? Undermining the coach in that situation threw Bayless under the bus. You can’t do that crap. It’s hard to figure out what he was thinking in that situation. Making the FT with no timeouts wasn’t a smart play. Why was he telling Bayless to make it?
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first off, we don't know that he undermined the coach.
what we THINK we know is that BRoy said one thing and Andre said another. We don’t know that Andre got the call from the bench and then overruled it. I find that hard to believe, and assuming it is what happened is not fair. Much more likely is that he made a judgement call on his own, that was the opposite of what the bench wanted. Clearly we need to work on our communications from bench to shooter in those scenarios.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
TWO things
1. IF miller really did tell Bayless to make the shot, knowing that Nate wanted him to miss it, then yes, obviously Miller is 100% in the wrong. But damn, Bayless isn’t stupid – everyone in the entire RG knew the proper play was to miss the damn shot – and I think he TRIED to miss it, but made it accidentally, right?
2. NO, I don’t think Miller has had a fair shot. Playing as a generic guard in some bullshit hokey pokey 3 guard lineup because a.) your coach doesn’t have the balls to start you because he’s in love with Blake, and b.) your superstar guard Roy apparently likes Blake better, is NOT being given a fair shot.
So because he wasn't starting
and we didn’t overhaul the entire offense to feature him, his game wasn’t up to snuff?
I think he came into camp out of shape. Nate gave him an opportunity to play his way into shape, off the bench, and he pouted and started spouting off to the media about how unfair all was. I can’t blame Nate or any of the players for not like that move. That sort of crap kills chemistry and relationships.
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Well, when he was playing well in the preseason
and Blake was playing terribly pretty much the entire preseason and early season, I think you have a legitimate gripe about the “players will earn their spots” stance that Nate was taking at the time.
#52
i think we can all agree that nate is very inconsistent with everything he says
and it’s really hurting/misleading the team
You don't think Blake earned a little slack to get through a slump?
Blake has played great ball for two seasons. A preseason slump is hardly reason to bench the guy.
I’m not a big Blake fan and was semi happy when we got Miller. I’ve never been a big fan of his game, but I knew what he was about on the court. But since day 1, he’s acted like he got a raw deal in free agency and had to take our offer, he had no other choice. I mean, he came out and said that. On media day. When fans were still flying high with anticipation.
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I also want to add that I question Nate at times too
He absolutely makes some questionable calls and substitutions. But I don’t think he’s been in the wrong with regards to Dre.
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Sure, he earned a little slack
but I don’t think he earned six week’s worth of slack. Besides, if you’re going to give Blake that much slack, you don’t say “the player playing the best will start”, you commit to Blake being the starter. Every account from Ben and Quick was that Miller was killing it in practice and they expected him to start, so if you’re outplaying someone for the better part of two months and still haven’t “earned” the position, I think you have the right to be miffed.
Of course, even after he “earned” the starting spot, it was at the expense of Martell, who had been playing well, and Miller was still sent to the bench until about 3 weeks ago when he became the starter supposedly for good.
#52
That slump needed a lot more than a little slack.
He was playing really poorly and it wasn’t for a couple of games either.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
sorry about above,
here’s the thing, unfortunately Broy is a top 10 player in the league and Andre Miller is not even top 20. Because of that, it is mostly Andre’s job to do what he can to mesh with Broy. Could Broy help this process? Sure. Has Miller had a chance to mesh with Broy? Maybe, But it doesn’t change the fact that it is on him to do so. When Shaq got traded to Clev, Pau to LA, Jermaine to Miami, Jefferson to SA, Etc., almost everyone said and agreed it was their job to mesh with the superstars(Lebron, Kobe, Dwade, Duncan) not the other way around. This change is clearly hard for Andre.
I do think there is a system, especially now with Oden out, where Andre and Broy could coexist, by utilizing Andre amazing ability to post up. I just don’t know if its going to happen. Especially now.
I just don’t see why everyone is backing Andre, when it appears (to an outside observer) that the majority of this is on him, but who knows.
Brandon and Miller have meshed.
They play fine together. I don’t get where this is coming from. Who has Brandon been starting beside during his streak of 15 games with 23 points or more?
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
agree about the free throw thing being a big deal.
honestly I am surprised he opposed Nate and Broy and that Bayless chose his recommendation over the other two. Just really strange to me.
That's assuming that Miller got the message the bench was conveying.
"She turned me into a newt!
A newt?
...I got better."
I find it more likely that there was a misunderstanding rather than anything else.
I seriously doubt Dre or anyone on this team would try to undermine the coach in a game critical situation like that. It’s more likely a result of miscommunication.
Like him or not, Dre is a veteran and not some punk kid that is in his early years. Given the circumstance, I doubt he’d try to make a power play in a middle of critical final juncture of the game.
Any rate, we won’t really know until all the details come out, but I think you might be a little quick to throw Dre under the bus when we really don’t know any of the details. Let’s reserve any judgments until then.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
I don't have the power to throw Dre under the bus
But Miller already threw Nate and Roy under the bus when he spoke with Spears, and more recently, Smith.
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Selective memory, since I also remember Roy telling the media early in the season that he'd rather play with Blake.
If there are people getting thrown around, it’s mutual rather than one person doing all of it.
Ultimately, it’s Nate’s responsibility to communicate expectations and handle playing time and lockerroom issues. Let’s not forget that Dre isn’t the only one that hasn’t been happy with Nate from the off-season to this point. Nate’s dealings with Miller, Fernandez, and Bayless all could have been better.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
by xedubx on Jan 7, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
who threw who under the bus?!
bayless threw andre under the bus by telling the media about that play instead of just owning up that he didn’t know what was the correct thing to do in the situation.
Andre wasn't playing well and Blake was playing WORSE. Yet Blake continued to start.
I don’t know if anyone could play up to their potential when this kind of thing was going on. Miller has played very well since starting AND he’s had to deal with the whole sitting out the 4th quarter thing. I think he understood this as long as Blake was making the 3 point shots in the 4th quarter but it seems like he failed to understand why he sat out when Blake was not there and Bayless was left in…hot hand riding my a… …at THIS point McMillan decides to ride the hot hands??!!! McMillan hasn’t done this all season yet when it comes to bringing Miller off the bench he DOES.
I do not know all that goes on with the team. Maybe Miller is a whiny sulky guy and we need to just dump his butt…we’ll see when there is another veteran who is NOT on the last year or 2 of his contract playing here in Portland. I am going to watch closely to see how well these players do under SARGE. That is IF the Blazers will be able to attract any decent FAs after this debacle.
Also if Mller was in the game maybe HE would have been able to make the pass to Brandon for the game winning shot. I don’t know that Miller did tell Bayless to make the shot. Why did Bayless listen to him? Must have made sense to him on some level. I think I heard some broadcasters..former players say…so that we could get the rebound…not sure how that would happen.
This may blow over in the long run, but just keep this in mind:
Once you’ve said something, you can’t unsay it.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
hopefully this doesn't hurt the Blazers chances at a future FA
Miller is a respected vet among players
Sure it will hurt. Players aren't stupid. They don't want to enter this kind of system. Unless they
LIKE being micromanaged to the NTH º. Or have some sort of marytr complex.
i'm not a big "fire nate" guy, but I have some concerns
but I think its very fair to say he completely mishandled the roster/playing time issues from start of training camp until our deluge of injuries fixed the problem for him.
2 big concerns I’ll be watching:
1) Will he do any better at managing the 1-3 positions when Rudy and Nic are both back?
2) Absent any major consolidation, will he learn from this and do a much better job next fall when camp opens?
Of course either or both of those things can be mitigated by KP making some roster consolidation moves that ease the burden on Nate to handle the depth. The question is, do we trust Nate has learned from this debacle, or should we hope that KP delivers him a roster that doesn’t force him to have to make the hard decisions.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Likely guess:
1) No. Blake will once again get too many minutes.
2) Maybe. Hopefully, he learned something about better integrating a major acquisition since if he wants to coach this team, he’ll eventually have to deal with integrating another major acquisition down the road given the trajectory of this team. Dre really was his first significant free agent in all his time in Seattle and Portland, so perhaps he just never had the proper experience to deal with this as a coach (and perhaps his experience in taking backseat to GP colored his judgment this time)
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
i think it goes beyond just one new guy though. it didn’t look like he was doing much better in integrating existing players either – a much improved Oden, Bayless, Rudy. He didn’t seem to have a very good plan on setting and defining roles that players understood.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Miller's ability
to get the team to do well with his style of play certainly exposes some of the weakness in Nate’s coaching. As if it wasn’t already apparent with trying to blend in Oden’s game with the rest of the team. Instead of changing and adapting a game plan to the personnel at hand, Nate seems to be just another coach that overvalues his ‘system’. It might be logical to look at the improved record over the last five years as vindication, but I think it has more to do with the quality of players that KP has brought in, than Nate’s system. I mean it would be quite an achievement to NOT win with these guys. If Nate took the players from five years ago and got them to over 500, that would be impressive indeed.
Miller has shown he can direct the team when he’s in the game. It’s only natural that the coach would have some territorial issues but it’s to his detriment at times and this looks like one of them. Nate has show a high degree of mental rigidity in a game that’s fluid by nature. The coach has also been inconsistent with saying the best players will be on the court.
By the way, I watched the Memphis game and saw Bayless at the free throw line in the closing seconds. It’s my recollection that the announcers were saying that Roy was telling Bayless to miss the second free throw. That’s what it looked like from the camera angle also. No mention of Miller at all. Did I miss something? Where did all the talk of Miller telling Bayless to make the second free throw come from?
Well said.
Agreed completely about Nate. Soooooo frustrating.
Also about the free throws. Unless the cameras missed it completely, I didn’t see Miller anywhere near Bayless at that time.
Me neither...
I only remember Roy stepping up to say something to Bayless, actually.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
It made me laugh
because Roy covered his mouth when he went over there, like nobody had any idea what he was saying. Maybe Roy told him to make it, and blame it on Miller.
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The video
http://www.nba.com/games/20100105/MEMPOR/gameinfo.html (1:45 mark for those who want the pertinent clip)
Both of them walked up at the same time. If there was a disagreement, I think it should have been pretty clear to everyone involved at the time.
#52
Thanks for the video
Hm….and the plot thickens.
Personally, I think we are making mountains out of molehill as usual. But it is rather interesting that there are some inconsistencies out there. You would think any issues they had about making or missing the FT would be resolved when all three of them were together.
52 + 88 = 140% better team.
im sick of this
Why cant we all just get a long. I mean you play a freakin ball game for a living! Miller deserves to be pissed. I love Nate, but the way he has handled this Miller thing is hurting our entire team.
The Dude: Hey, careful, man, there's a beverage here!
by cavejunctionblazer on Jan 7, 2010 12:43 PM PST reply actions
Nate needs to pull a Kanye West
Yo Andre Imma let you finish ( the game ) but Steve’s been with the team for YEARS FOR YEARS.
by gotissues68 on Jan 7, 2010 2:56 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Who cares who's right who's wrong
The issue is the pool that’s going round the office. Two bucks and pick the day Andre’s trade gets announced. Here’s a tip; it’s before Feb. 19th.
This is not surprising
Nate: Control Freak Boss
Andre: Accomplished Loner Employee
Have you ever seen this work out well at your job?
NOPE. But thank goodness I've never had to work for a control freak boss. I DO know that it NEVER
hurts to find what is likeable about a boss and try to put this out there for the boss to notice…bosses like to be appreciated. Just ask Blake. He knows the deal. I think Nate will just need to keep all rookies on his team and maybe a veteran who is counting his days till he coaches and things will be just DANDY in NATELAND. These guys will all love and appreciate Natey.
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