Game 49 Recap: Blazers 114, Mavericks 112
Long Story Short: Andre Miller pays a touching tribute to Greg Oden by scoring 52 points, including 7 of Portland's 11 in the overtime period, to send the Mavericks packing and perhaps save the week for the Blazers.
The Game
I said in this week's Trailblazers.com Podcast that it appeared the Blazers' bag of miracles had run dry just when one or two would be handy. Obviously I hadn't looked carefully enough because Portland dug down deep in the sack tonight and pulled out a sweet, and much-needed, win against one of the best teams in the West on the road. Just when I think I'm out, they keep pulling me back in...
The game started out both briskly and well for the Blazers. The team made a concerted effort to get shots earlier in the clock than usual. Between that and quick feet getting down the floor the Blazers looked almost frisky. Though Dallas hit three shots to go up 6-0 at the very beginning of the night the Blazers, shooting instead of thinking, closed the gap quickly, tying the game around the 9:00 mark and pulling ahead in the quarter for good behind a brief flurry from Jerryd Bayless a few minutes later. The Blazers were still shooting jumpers but they came off of ball movement which meant the players were more open and the shots were, by and large, taken closer to the hoop than the ones that come off the dribble. A 20-footer is the inside limit of Portland's attempts in many quarters. In this period the 20-footers were long bombs. Dallas got its points from Dirk Nowitzki and Jason Terry but neither one of them looked as aggressive as Miller, Bayless, or LaMarcus Aldridge. Portland gets off to that crucial good start, 26-21 after one.
Predictably the second quarter didn't go nearly as well offensively. Dallas clamped down a little bit, sure, but the injured Blazers have had problems fielding any kind of second unit that can score consistently. All of a sudden Portland was back in the plodding, late-clock, long-bomb offense. Dallas, meanwhile, decided that wings driving would be the best way to exploit Portland's defense. Lacking an inside-scoring big man, they were correct. Drew Gooden and Rodrigue Beaubois got a couple looks inside but the real Neato Bandito for the Mavs in the period was Josh Howard. He started abusing the Blazers, first receiving bounty from guys who had broken down their defenders and commanded help, then torching the net straight up once he had warmed to the game. He scored 15 in the quarter. The Blazers scored 18 as a team. Dallas heads into the locker room up 3, 47-44. It looked like Portland had their early hurrah and were ready to get swamped.
The halftime pep talk must have included some discussion of Jason Kidd not being the defender he once was...and Jason Terry having never been a great defender...and Jose Juan Barea and Defense never having been introduced. Whatever the speech entailed, Portland came out determined to exploit Dallas' backcourt defense. It was the right plan. The first few scores of the period for Portland went: Bayless, Miller, Miller, Bayless, Miller, Miller. Only two of those attempts were beyond 10 feet. Dallas wasn't rotating quickly enough to stop the mighty Portland guard attack. When they did rotate gamely, having been baked to the tune of a dozen points in 4:30 by the duo, LaMarcus Aldridge happily stepped up and scored 5 in 1:30. Behind some Shawn Marion buckets the Mavs were scoring enough to keep pace but at this point they weren't supposed to be keeping pace. They were supposed to be opening up a double-digit lead and wondering where to go for drinks after the game. (As it would turn out the only place they'd be going for post-fourth-quarter drinks was the Gatorade bucket, but more on that in a minute.) After a dry spell the Blazers scored 9 points in the final 2 minutes and Dallas needed a last-second Barea heave from 25 to close the gap to 4. Blazers take over the quarter and lead 73-69 going into the final period.
A quick look at that third-period exit score will show you that to this point Portland was winning the game the same way they had their earlier contest in Dallas: limit the Mavericks' shots and points to a manageable level. The key to this plan was denying Dirk Nowitzki touches, which the Blazers were doing admirably. Dirk had only 6 shots to his credit at this point...not makes, attempts. But Dallas, as we mentioned, is a good team and they were having none of that in the final period. You knew Terry and the forwards who had heretofore kept them going were going to get some attempts, but this was going to be Dirk time. The Blazers hadn't won the game. All they had done was give themselves a chance to go shot for shot with the Mavs. Even sporting a four-point margin it wasn't a prospect you'd relish.
But these weren't the angst-ridden, navel-gazing, directionless, run-the-clock-to-death Blazers we've seen so often this year. Instead the Blazers seemed to realize that they like playing basketball and they like shooting. So they played and they shot. LaMarcus Aldridge and Steve Blake started the period firing and scoring. Blake looked particularly carefree as he hit a 20-footer and then a three a minute later. What the heck. We have to score, right? Then it was Miller time. Blake's three gave the Blazers 80 points for the game. They would end the fourth quarter with 103. Miller scored all but 5 of those remaining 23 points: another Blake three on which Miller assisted and a LaMarcus Aldridge layup. He had no fear and Dallas had nobody to stop him. He posted little guys and drove around bigger ones, much as we said Dirk Nowitzki did in the game preview. Indeed, Miller was Nowiztki tonight and Dirk did a pretty good impression of Miller by shooting awkward, fall-away jumpers. The Mavs' interior defense proved marshmallow-soft. None of Andre's 18 points in the quarter was scored from more than 13 feet from the bucket.
On the other end, though, Nowitzki was putting on a show of his own. The Blazers doubled him much of the evening but they were getting burned and went to single coverage late. He ate their lunch. It seemed no matter what Portland did, they were toast. Also the familiar bugaboo of stupid late-game mistakes raised its ugly head again. Fortunately the Mavericks missed no critical free throws so we couldn't pull the old "Don't get the free throw rebound even though you have two guys with inside position" trick. However LaMarcus Aldridge did miss two free throws with 59 seconds left in regulation. That left the score tied at 99. Then the next play down either Aldridge stupidly followed Batum as Nic cut through a screen to stay with Jason Terry or Nic stupidly didn't call out his intentions to LaMarcus. However it happened both defenders followed the dribbler and left Nowitzki completely. Boom. Dallas leads 101-99 with 41 seconds left. Miller hit a couple free throws to tie it again at 101 but the next trip down the court LaMarcus, waving his hands like Presto the Magician in front of Nowitzki's face while guarding him, poked Dirk right in the eye before Dirk even had a chance to make any kind of move. With the Blazers over the limit the unforced foul led to free throws, which Nowitzki calmly canned. 103-101 Dallas, 26 seconds left. Then came the shot of Andre Miller's life. He had dribbled the ball for a while probing but couldn't find any openings. With the clock running short and aggression needed he swept across the lane left to right and put up a sweeping hook shot over the fingertips of the defender. You read that right...a sweeping hook shot. Think Magic Johnson in that famous playoff clip in the lane, but this time the guy putting it up is half a foot shorter but the defender's not. It bounced off the rim and...and...went in. Sick. Tie game at 103. Nowitzki can't hit the game-winner from 17 and we're into overtime.
The extra period was decided by a couple of things. The first was Miller's 7 points, including a three to open the session that had everybody thinking that he had sacrificed chickens to some heretofore unknown basketball deity before the game. The second was Nicolas Batum's defense. The Blazers actually botched a couple of significant plays in the extra period. They blew the rotation getting over to Jason Terry for a three and JT put Dallas ahead with the shot. Then the next play after forcing a Nowitzki miss they let Kidd in for an offensive rebound putback. It looked like the small mistake ghost was going to haunt them yet. But in the end the Mavericks needed Dirk Points to finish the game and they got only 2 (and those early) because Nicolas Batum stood in front of him and forced him to shoot over the top fading away again and again and again. Those aren't unusual attempts for Nowitzki, but since they hadn't been falling past the midpoint of the fourth quarter you got the feeling that even he would have preferred some other kind of shot. Nic said, "Mais, non!" and made it stick. Dirk took 3 of Dallas' final 4 shots and got, in order: bubkus, nada, and squadoosh. Batum's defense made Juwan Howard's 16-footer with 44 seconds left--Juwan's only points of the game--the deciding bucket. Portland walks out of Dallas with a 114-112 overtime victory. Amazing.
You can quote all the stats you want from this game but the basic story is that the Blazers won it with heart and confidence. They shot 53.5% because they worked hard enough to get makeable shots (only 10 three-pointers attempted in the game and 60 points in the paint scored to Dallas' 46) and didn't hesitate when they had them. They moved the right guys onto the right Dallas players at the right time and those defenders came through enough to make the difference. Even with all of that it was only a coin flip coming down the stretch but the whole idea of a coin flip is that it can go your way. The Blazers gave themselves that chance and it did. Well done.
Individual Observations
Andre Miller...whoosh. 22-31 for 52 points. He battered down the Mavericks. His offense was physical and they couldn't match it. He might as well have been Kobe out there for all they could stop him. What a performance! It's also a good reminder, though. Had this been Jerryd Bayless people would have been screaming to the highest heavens that he is the next Superstar of the League and Portland should start him now and always and so on and so forth. Miller had 52 points in this game and he's none of those things (except the starter part), never has been, and never will be. In fact he had 7 and 2 points in the two prior games. Good players can have fantastic games. You ride them and celebrate them but in the end you judge a guy on what he does night in and night out and not what he did in one or two games.
Speaking of Bayless, he keyed off of the aggressive vibe and Dallas seemed just as powerless to stop his penetration as they were stopping Andre's. 7-11 shooting up real close, 17 points and a lot of camel-straw-breaking when Dallas wanted to focus elsewhere.
LaMarcus Aldridge had 21 points on 10-20 shooting. He only had 4 rebounds and had some critical mistakes late though. But we needed every one of those 21 points and he looked as definitive in his offense as Miller and Bayless were in theirs, even though his consisted of jumpers.
Side Note: Outside of Juwan Howard's game-winner and 2 free throws by Bayless Aldridge and Miller were the only Blazers who scored after the 9:00 mark of the fourth quarter. They literally carried the offense.
Steve Blake hit a couple of threes en route to 10 points in 25 minutes. He appeared to be the guy who got hung out on that Jason Terry three.
The rest of the Blazers combined (Webster, Howard, Pendergraph, Cunningham, Fernandez, Batum): 3-14 shooting, 14 points, 2 assists, 2 steals, 4 blocks, 5 turnovers, 17 personal fouls. Juwan Howard gets credit for his 12 rebounds and the game-winning shot. Pendergraph had 6 rebounds and 2 blocks in 12 minutes. Cunningham provided the usual hustle and 2 blocks as well. It doesn't matter what else Batum did because he shut down Nowitzki late. Whatever slice of the game ball that doesn't go to Miller heads to Batum.
Final Thoughts
Ohhhhh this win is going to make things look more rosy. Assuming a Monday win against Charlotte (which may be a dangerous assumption) and 1 of 2 versus San Antonio and L.A. (also dangerous) this now looks like a decent stretch instead of an God-awful one. Even if only one of those 2 wins materialize it's not complete disaster. If nothing else, the gross 6-7 game losing streak is averted and Portland probably won't have to deal with anything close.
Hear the plaintive cries of Mavs' fans at MavsMoneyball. (No truth to the rumor it's going to be re-named "Andre'sMoneyBall".)
You can see the final Jersey Contest scoreboard for the month here.
Congratulations to Oldbaum who is our Jersey Winner for January! He edged out MavetheGreat by 3 points and Blazersand2000 by 4. What a month!
Enter the first game of the February contest here.
--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)
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Dre deserves his own woot train
Woooooooooo000000000t Woooooooooooooo0000000000t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and a few for Juwan and Nicky Barnes
fiftytwo
W24242424242424T W888888888888888888T!!
batum leaves over my dead body
#88 #52 #4 #24
jake locker=2010 Heisman winner
by thomasikehara on Jan 30, 2010 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
holy cow, seriously
If you’d have asked Dallas “which player do you want shooting the ball, game tied less than a minute left,” they would’ve no doubt said Juwan Howard. And if you’d asked where, they’d have said 15 ft or further from the basket. And if you’d have asked how, they’d have said “turnaround off the dribble.”
Andre Miller pays a touching tribute to Greg Oden by scoring 52 points
. Shawn Marion payed tribute to Greg as well by scoring 12.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
by Net Ranger on Jan 30, 2010 10:45 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
haha
I feakin' love Nicolas Batum....
and andre, and roy, and bayless, and oden, and juwan, and pretty much every other blazer
by thomasikehara on Jan 30, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
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I used to be called Nick Van Excellent, but I wasn't really all that excellent.
by The Running Man on Jan 30, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
Hahahahhah
"You can lose lots of money chasing women, but you will NEVER lose women chasing money. " - Mr.Landis
I said the same thing...
….to my buddies tonight.
Get well soon, G.O. (And stop taking pictures of your dingy!!!) #52
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Roy paid a tribute
to him as well. He stayed home (injured) and didn’t score .However, he had Greg over for a rousing photo shoot …And all was well in Rip City….
Are you sure it wasn't his body double?
I heard it was hard to tell them apart with their clothes on. But that was just NBA gossip distributed by female reporters.
So, if it was Roy, I wonder how he got to the game? Ambulance?
You know, I have always hated the Huskies and also the Seattle Sonics….. I have managed to forgive Roy and Nate for the time being….however, if Roy keeps going to Husky games and not Portland’s…
Guess I’m leaning towards the Timbo (sideline) view on Roy. Maybe when he gets back on the court, that will go away.
are you serious??
Because yes, watching a game is pretty hard on your hamstring compared to playing against the Mavs.
by Section323 on Jan 31, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
There is some humor in this thread
Some of it, not that funny, I guess
On a more serious note; Roy is a member of the Portland Trailblazer’s. If he is going to a game to sit and watch, he should be going to the Blazer game and watching them play and not the Huskies. You can learn a lot about your team by watching them play. Being involved first hand is part of team unity that, not only shows support to your teammates, but keeps your focus centered on the task at hand..
Showcasing Roy out of the context of his team is poor judgment and shows a degree of lack of respect(for teammates) and selfishness.
Roy can showcase his skills and notoriety in the all-star game.
Now instead of seeing him on vacation at his former home, I would rather either see him at the Blazer game or otherwise in some sort of ritual rehabilitation that has a regimented progression to full recovery from the hamstring injury.
Most medical procedures state that rest alone is not enough. I am assuming that he may be doing some therapy, but it is not too reassuring when you see him doing everything but.
The "notorious" Brandon Roy
If these posts are supposed to be funny aren’t really hitting the mark….if they are serious then I don’t even know how to respond cause they completely off base
" Welcome to the Bedge....where good, is never good enough"…Rudiculous
by 92wastheyear on Jan 31, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Plus the doctor giving him the treatment is in Seattle
" Welcome to the Bedge....where good, is never good enough"…Rudiculous
by 92wastheyear on Jan 31, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
Great Win
"You can lose lots of money chasing women, but you will NEVER lose women chasing money. " - Mr.Landis
Great game
Just got back, it’s nice to see your two favorite teams play such a great game.
Andre Miller plays very well night in and night out. Except for the 3 games leading up
to this one..which HE pointed out in the post game interview. Sounded kind of negative…the last few sentences about Andre:
“Miller had 52 points in this game and he’s none of those things (except the starter part), never has been, and never will be. In fact he had 7 and 2 points in the two prior games. Good players can have fantastic games. You ride them and celebrate them but in the end you judge a guy on what he does night in and night out and not what he did in one or two games.” So are you giving Andre a break in what he did the last few games or saying he played well in one or two of them?
by Natsthecat on Jan 30, 2010 10:54 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
It's NBA politics
There is a clear division in BE …..It’s editors (like most media people) always have a side. There is a great effort to remain neutral but it usually squeaks out in some form of content.
In fairness, it is part of human nature. Just having an opinion is expressing your thoughts and inadvertently putting you there.
The Miller game play was essentially out of the norm. He took advantage of a match up that allowed for him to post up. It not only caught Dallas off guard, but they were unable to adjust because Miller was pretty clever at disguising his intentions. Miller was killing them on offense, but they thought they could outscore Portland, regardless. On paper you would think this to be true…but this is the reason you play the game.
Miller will not be expected to do this again. He is our point guard and floor general and is normally a distributor and organizer. However it is important for everyone on the floor to be a threat to score and he can do that as well
Sadly, consistency on this team is lacking and some of the reasons are not just the injuries. The Miller/Nate/Roy issue won’t go away. The LMA chatter won’t either. This team still has to develop some identity that won’t compromise the play of the five people on the court.
There are two general sides or opinions on how to do that. Many fans get too enamored with individual players and not enough emphasis on the team as a complete functioning unit. A group that are all on the same page..
Only then, will we be able to claim a step to the next level and beyond. As we do this the box score points may start to look like this;
Player 1. 22
" 2. 18
" 3. 17
" 4. 16
" 5. 10
" 6. 8
" 7. 6
" 8. 4
I only put 8 up because I think it may be our future rotation (we just haven’t decided who those players are yet) My thought is 2 bench backup position players and 2 bench role/match up players. We have been successful with 2 units of five, but in reality too few minutes=less effective play.
Just to say
that I remember Dave suggesting Andre as a good possible pick up long before the summer of 09. Dave has always had good things to say about Andre’s game.
#7 #10 #25 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!
The point is not about Andre at all
good or bad. The point is that you can’t jump to instant conclusions from a 52-point game. Andre is a known quantity. It’s known than he’s generally not the type of player people would associate with a 52-point game. But he’s capable of having one. The lessons here are two:
1. Don’t assume that your good-to-decent player isn’t capable of going off for a monster performance or two. These guys are NBA players. They’re good.
2. Perhaps more importantly for our fanbase dealing with a bunch of younger, unknown-quantity players, don’t assume that a monster performance or two means your guy is more than a good-to-decent player.
Either way, what happens night in and night out is a better barometer of success than what happens at a player’s maximum or minimum output.
—Dave
yeah we just need to trade Dre
What a loser.
Allen Iverson should decline his allstar spot!
-Charles Barkley-
Ahhh
Allen Iverson should decline his allstar spot!
-Charles Barkley-
by We-B-Dunkin on Jan 30, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
Rereading the paragraph...it does sound as though you mean this in a positive way..just
doesn’t come across very clearly as Andre has had 3 bad games..not just one or two…
I actually agree with your original sentiment
Andre seems very underrated given what he’s achieved consistently over a very long career, and how much better he’s made the teams he’s been on. It’s not a coincidence that the Sixers went from being a playoff team to a punchline when they let Andre walk. Saying that he’s a “good player” I don’t think really does him justice. If Jerryd ever improves a team as much as Dre did for both Philly and Denver (and Cleveland, even though they were terrible), I would be quite amazed.
Yeah..I wish Andre would have gotten more Kudos along the way. Apparently has to be more of a media
darling for that to happen! Anyway..I hope he knows he has many loyal fans. He had me last year when the 76ers toasted us.
I heard somewhere that Mike and Mike hate him
" Welcome to the Bedge....where good, is never good enough"…Rudiculous
by 92wastheyear on Jan 30, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
Not much of our Portland media seems to like him.
The fact that he doesn’t get excited to talk to them really gets their panties in a bunch. They prefer the super sweet Steve Blake. I personally prefer the 52 point gamer, Andre Miller.
huh
Miller had 52 points in this game and he’s none of those things (except the starter part), never has been, and never will be. In fact he had 7 and 2 points in the two prior games. Good players can have fantastic games. You ride them and celebrate them but in the end you judge a guy on what he does night in and night out and not what he did in one or two games.
Dave, that’s kind of a weird write-up to do on a guy who just had one of the best individual scoring performances in franchise history and basically willed the Blazers to an unlikely win.
And as far as “night in and night out”, I watched Andre in his 2.5 years with the Sixers and he was consistently a guy who would basically put the entire team on his back and lead them to victory. He may not do it every single game, but that is definitely something Miller can bring to the table if you need it.
by dulcamara on Jan 30, 2010 11:04 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
I can see the logic behind it...
but, Miller just hit 22 buckets… no one ever wearing a Portland jersey has ever done that. He’s been inconsistent this season, but with a general upward trend.
To me it feels like 52 points and single-handedly beating the Mavs in the last two periods earns a player at least a night without criticism.
agreed
dave’s complements were almost back-handed. ‘andre played well, but he’s still pretty mediocre, so we should temper our joy with guarded optimism’.
no, we should celebrate! andre was freakin’ amazing. who cares if it happens once a season, that was a phenomenal performance and the dude deserves major props, not a reality check!
Didn't much care for that either..
When a Blazer has a career night it would be nice to not knock him for past performances.
On game day, I leave the turkey alone because it is some chemicals in that thing. Nate Mcmillian 11/26/09
No joke.
I used to be called Nick Van Excellent, but I wasn't really all that excellent.
by The Running Man on Jan 30, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
Miller is not popular with the wonks
It’s not just Dave. I think it’s payback for not kissing the media’s butt.
"The only 'Advanced Metric' that matters is what you see with your eyes." -Timbo, Nov., 2009.
I like what Kelly Dwyer said.
“If you’re new to the Dre Miller experience, understand that this isn’t some middling journeyman who enjoyed a night for the ages.”-Ball Don’t Lie
I used to be called Nick Van Excellent, but I wasn't really all that excellent.
by The Running Man on Jan 31, 2010 2:31 AM PST up reply actions
I thought the paragraph was focused more
on making a general point about how fans can overstate the meaning of isolated performance. Heck, until recently people would still bring up Martell’s 24 point quarter as a sign of his potential. This is the right game to point this out- he obviously can’t do t when Roy goes off, because Roy has done it before and will do t again. In fact, I wonder if Dafe’s been waiting for a game like this (well, maybe not quite like this) to make this statement.
I agree that it could have been placed better, though. I thought Dave gave Dre his props throughout the article as a whole, but Andre’s evaluation should have been about Andre.
by Epimenides on Jan 31, 2010 7:24 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, and I wish Dave would have come up with one of his inspired literary fluorishes to describe Dre’s night. It deserved an ode worthy of the great sports poets like Pindar and Grantland Rice.
by Epimenides on Jan 31, 2010 7:33 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Nate too
In the post game interview, Nate gave Dre some credit, but focused on the team effort. I think this would have been a good time to just give it all up for Dre and the 52.
Dre himself focused on the team effort in his interview
" Welcome to the Bedge....where good, is never good enough"…Rudiculous
by 92wastheyear on Jan 31, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions
I agree
don’t get me wrong, I’m a legitimate Blazer fan, but I was actually hoping we would lose after that immense show of ball hoggery. I think anytime someone “goes off” for that many points, rather than carrying the team, it’s actually the ultimate show of selfishness. If Miller would have got other players involved early in the game, I think we would have had a lot more weapons to turn to late in the game when we needed buckets rather than just watching the Miller & Aldridge Show.
It would be selfish
to stop shooting when everything is going in.
The point is to help your team win.
It was obvious from the start of the game that the team game plan was to attack their guards, who have defensive deficiencies, at every opportunity. They never found a way to adjust to that.
#7 #10 #25 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!
Seems like we have the Mavs number
Ironically enough, if the playoffs started today we’d be matched up with them. I’ll take it.
I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
When last year
We couldn’t beat them no matter what. They’re a year older and we’re a year wiser and that makes the difference.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
yeah
I was at one of the Mavs home games last year when they completely owned us. This year I just think the match ups are in favor to the Blazers for several reason which I’m sure are obvious and I’m to tired to list. I’m pulling for a Blazers-Mavs play-off series, but I’ll be happy just making it.
I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
They are old
In retrospect, trading Harris for Kidd closed their championship window.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
la
LA’s defense against players never seems to be discussed much. In every game players seem to easily push him back then shoot over the top of him. His only defense is slapping away at the ball. Dante a rookie seems to have this happen much less when he is in the game. In the Hornets game West could not score on Dante but when La guarded him he had a scoring fest. Oh yeah and late in the game he cannot score unless it is a dunk.
I thought his defense was pretty good against Dirk for the first three quarters. They did a good job denying him the ball, which was a team effort. Then, just when he was starting to get going with some P + R action, we stuck Batum out there and he was marvelous. So overall we did a pretty good job on one of the most dangerous scorers (and most difficult matchups) in the League.
lMA actually played Dirk well most of the night which often results in being out of position for the
Rebound,why the hate? he played a solid game
by southern oregon on Jan 30, 2010 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
I hope and expect Dre to get more than just polite golf claps
At the intros on Monday night,great game Dre
by southern oregon on Jan 30, 2010 11:12 PM PST reply actions
Were I there Monday
He would get near a Roy-level ovation when being introduced.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
He's been getting pretty loud ovations lately with no Roy. The team is kinda making him the premier guy for the moment.
Most of the guys except Blake
Get pretty good cheers.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Well Dave Jerryd Bayless didn't score 52 and I still think he should be starting with Brandon Roy.
It’s no coincidence we started winning and scoring when Bayless was in. Grab a lead, take Bayless out, lose lead, bring Bayless in and get it back. He was +20.
Nate for some reason likes to take out the players that go to the hoop and score. Just glad Andre Miller is a vet otherwise Nate would have pulled him. Bayless should be starting.
Yes
Steve Blake is killing me. I know he has some value and can hit open 3’s (which is great when we need them) but the guy brings so little to the offense that I cant believe Bayless isnt playing more.
This, of all years, is the one where bayless should be playing ALL THE TIME. He needs the burn.
Ball handling and dribbling are my strongest weaknesses."—David Thompson
I really didn't appreciate Bayless at the start of the year. Then I was talking about Bayless with a coach I know. He
pointed out to me all the things Bayless does out there. Most importantly that Bayless attacks the rim and gets exellent looks at the rim. This is so vital to success in the playoffs. Easy buckets are so valuable, and Bayless is doing this in just his second year.
On a fast break Steve Blake will pull it back out, use 24 seconds and we bad shot. Bayless on a fast break goes to the rim. Finally we are the team with that guy.
by BRoyInThe4th on Jan 30, 2010 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
A Bayless with Miller's smarts
Which J-Bay will get as he grows, will be amazing.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I hope Andre is teaching Jerryd how to finish at the rim. He has all these start-stop moves, uses angles really well, puts his body in the right place so you can’t block his shot. When Jerryd develops some of that savvy and touch, combining that with his speed and leaping ability, he will be awesome.
Dre can split a double team
Like very few in the NBA can.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
no doubt
I think Miller could be really valuable to Rex’s progression as a player. If I was Rex, I’d be Miller’s shadow and take like a sponge and soak everything up. If Rex can learn anything from Miller it’s gotta be how not to get his shot blocked, which has been an occurring problem with Rex in the past.
I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
Bayless gets to learn from Miller, Roy and Fernandez
IMO, he is fortunate.
by Hermistonmelons on Jan 30, 2010 11:58 PM PST up reply actions
I think Andre is a great mentor for Bayless
and is helping him with his impressive development.
They were a 1-2 punch tonight that was impressive.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
Miller and Bayless
is a bad combination on the floor because Andre pretty much kills Bayless’ game due to the fact that they do a lot of the same things on the court, instead of being complementary players
well, they both can shoot mid range jumpers,
so, you don’t really know who might take it to the rim. As long at the “same thing” has sufficient diversity of attack, seems like it could work. Of course they would have to get used to each other.
I just noticed they had a nice period together. Generally, you are right, we would have someone else in at 2.
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
it's about finding a good balance game to game
Against Houston, Miller couldn’t get going because they put Battier on him, and we didn’t have enough punch on the wings to make them pay for putting Brooks on our 2-guard (you don’t need to be big or quick to stand in the corner with Blake). If Brandon or Jerryd were in there, they wouldn’t be able to do this because Brooks can’t defend them
Blake did some good things.
It’s bit ironic that I am defending Steve now, since all season long my position was to start/play Miller more and play Bayless. Blake has been doing some good things lately, which is play decent D as well as not thinking too much on offense and shooting more off pick and rolls.
Sure, we all want to see Bayless get more PT to develop and Blake does play more minutes than most of us would like to see, but he has been solid as of late and not the same guy that was stinking it up while playing more minutes than Dre.
"I think he’s been doing some good things. I think he’s been doing some good things. He’s had to play a lot of minutes lately with Blake being out. I think he’s been doing some good things." -Nate McMillan
Bayless is starting.
I used to be called Nick Van Excellent, but I wasn't really all that excellent.
by The Running Man on Jan 30, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
Ronald DREagan
Dre was definitely running the show tonight. He hit some amazing shots and basically abused the Mavericks weak interior defense. I too find Dave’s recap a little mild in his praise for Dre. Dude put down a serious game against a good opponent, has had a damn good career, and looks like he can help us for at least another 2-3 years. He definitely deserves more than golf claps for this, his game was off the hook tonight.
The only negative is……..Lamarcus. Yes, Lamarcus Aldridge, he of the absense of ability to seize the moment and come up big when we need him. He had a good game tonight, but is that all we will ever get from this guy? 4 rbs? Missed free throws…AGAIN? Bad Fouls? When is this guy going to have a big moment for this team? This is year 4 and I cant recall Lamarcus ever coming up big in any game in the last few minutes. Has he ever scored over 30 points in a game (I know he has once or twice, but still)
He is a good player, but it is blatantly obvious to me that the guy shrinks in the moment when games are on the line. Roy can cover for that most nights, but sometime in the distant future we are going to need him to make some clutch plays, and I cant say I feel good about that.
Great game Blazers, and especially Dre Miller. This team is one worth rooting for, thats for sure
Ball handling and dribbling are my strongest weaknesses."—David Thompson
by Benson on Jan 30, 2010 11:25 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
He hit a game winner last year against Milwaukee
" Welcome to the Bedge....where good, is never good enough"…Rudiculous
by 92wastheyear on Jan 30, 2010 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, LMA has never contributed to a Blazer win. They won 54 games in spite of him last year. KP is stupid fro giving him a contract.
Good god you people are like jackals.
It wouldn't make anyone cross
If he was paid less. A large contract means we are likely to have him for awhile and will have ample opportunity to watch him miss free throws when he looks scared out of his mind. A fan can lament this, and no, that does not make them a jackal.
by Sound_Automatic on Jan 30, 2010 11:59 PM PST up reply actions
he doesn't actually make that money yet
so in theory, we shouldn’t complain about it until next year.
His play is a long term concern for the team. We shouldn't wait until next year to talk about it.
Hire Jim Hashimoto.
Free AK1984.
#52
No t eally. Even if they pay him 10 million less they are still at the cap when they sign Oden. The only
thing it determines is how much luxury tax PA is willing to pay eventually. and it’s his money not mine.
the point I was trying to make
is that LMA seems to be a liability at the end of games. He shrinks in the moment every time.
He is a very good player, but he needs to step it up
Ball handling and dribbling are my strongest weaknesses."—David Thompson
Saying he shrinks every time is patently untrue. You mean to say that he has never made a crtical free throw or made an
important shot late in the fourth? Never? You have a lot pof game tape to review to support that commet.
I just wish all the Aldrige bashing would go away
It’s annoying to read negative comments about players on my favorite team on a fansite based on that team.
by tominhawaii on Jan 31, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
Do you have something to support that he has
Im not trying to bash the guy, I said he has a good game. But im pretty sure i could name off ten times that he has bricked a 5 footer, missed free throws, or has been scared to shoot for every one time that he has made a clutch play. Its just who he is right now.
Hopefully he grows out of it, but dont pretend like our 2nd best player has been a clutch performer, when clearly he has not.
All that said, he is a good player and is still young. Im just waiting for him to make it happen late in games
Ball handling and dribbling are my strongest weaknesses."—David Thompson
When you say dump stuff like "never" the burden of proof is on you. I don't know a single human
who is so perfect or imperfect that they will always do a thing or never do it. It’s lame ass commentary and they only reason to use is if you really do intend to bash instead of discuss.
ok then
switch never to Very very rarely.
I’ve watched every single Blazer game for the last 4 years, and Lamarcus hitting clutch shots is like seeing an albino-pigme Giraffe. And just within the last month I have seen him bumble away 3-4 games.
No, nobody is perfect, but I think the trend of his late game performances are a fair point of critisizm
Ball handling and dribbling are my strongest weaknesses."—David Thompson
remember how a good song used to be overplayed on the radio
which turned it into a bad song?
That’s what’s happening here.
It’s OK to critisize the players.
If that’s all you can do – STOP. They are our players and we would rather see support for them than the same song over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
Thank you. – Elgin
GOP in HD
by 22baylor on Feb 1, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
LA will get better with experience...think about how many times has he HAD to make the clutch play?
Ever since he’s been here…so has ROY!!!
Lma is basically
A young KG… Takes too many jump shots… Disappears in the 4th…
The only difference is that lma doesnt rebound (and doesnt crawl on the floor to mock an opponent)
by JMLakaShotCaller on Jan 31, 2010 1:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I've been noticing this lately as well...
It’s easy to criticize LMA for his knack of fizzling towards the end of games, but this guy brings a lot of positive attributes, and I have been comparing him myself to KG for the same reasons you are. I’ve been very impressed lately with the ways that LMA makes himself valuable throughout the game, and while it’s been frustrating to watch his lack of growth as a scorer, he’s showed a lot of improvement in some other aspects of his game, and makes his presence felt in other ways as a passer and as a team defender. The fact that he’s been pulling 20 points a game as the focal point of the other team’s defense isn’t a minor achievement.
by HeathBlizzard on Jan 31, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
The whole not rebounding thing
is kind of a big deal. LA is more like Rasheed Wallace two years ago, with less rebounding.
Andre Miller might have just saved our season
A long losing streak was quite possible without this win. But with this win and getting Roy back very soon, we WILL make the playoffs and we will be fine.
Every night a new hero for this team, tonight was Dre.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Thanks Andre!
We appreciate that you saved this outburst for a truly deserving opponent, the Mavericks. Feel free to do that almost anytime against them. Not that I hate the Mavs, I kinda like them, well, some of them, but I’d like them more in another division.
Significant gravitas shortfall expected in 2010.
Not even Dirk could stop him tonight

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Jan 30, 2010 11:37 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
is this the end of that steal?
Where the Blazers had just lost the ball (I think it was Dre actually) and then like he’s done a number of times, snatched it right back and dropped it home? Loved that play.
I was unfortuantely relegated to radio tonight
So I don’t know but I have to say Wheels was fun on a night like this.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
nah
on the steal he poked it away from and scored on kidd
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." -- Bertrand Russell
Exactly
That’s knowing how the game is called, what contact is allowed and what isn’t. Note that his arm is low, and just far enough out. That kind of contact is allowed. Rex should learn that kind of subtlety.
I agree. It is illegal but not called and good Basketball
THe irony strikes me. Much like any traveling call i the NBA. It is the NBA. There is no such thing as Traveling, LOL
by Hermistonmelons on Jan 31, 2010 7:45 AM PST up reply actions
Gap
Check out the space between sole and wood
by doomsdaymachine on Jan 31, 2010 6:27 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
THat is it
The Photo had to be retouched
by Hermistonmelons on Jan 31, 2010 7:45 AM PST up reply actions
I feel sorry for the opposing scouts.
How in the hell do you scout a time like the Blazers? On any given night someone else steps up in a big way individually for this team. I cannot wait until this team is at full strenghth again. We are going to be so dangerous!!!
That's why we're good
Especially with #7.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Players to go over 50 vs. Dallas
Pts. Player Site Date
62 Kobe Bryant @LA 12/20/05
53 Tim Duncan @SA 12/26/01
52* Andre Miller AAC 1/30/10
52* Kobe Bryant @LA 3/2/08
*=OT.
Not bad company
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/013110dnspomavs.cdef9d1e.html
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
first one to go over 50 in their home court..impressive
"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.
"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.
by Tofu Anonymous on Jan 31, 2010 2:04 AM PST up reply actions
Ahhh Tom
Too much good Pulled Pork in this world to be hating so much
by Hermistonmelons on Jan 31, 2010 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
well, feel free to complain about this game.
Its not like you have to make sense, right ?…. :-)
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
Dave, this is a little strange.
Good players can have fantastic games. You ride them and celebrate them but in the end you judge a guy on what he does night in and night out and not what he did in one or two games.
What “good” players do you know who have scored 50 points against a team with a wining record? It doesn’t really happen does it? This month Dre has been playing at an all-star level, which just happens to coincide with Nate realizing he can use him in the post. (Not really his fault considering we had Oden occupying that space). Dre has always been good, considered by a ton of Sixer fans to be the MVP of that team.
From 1990-91 to 2009-10 only 33 players have scored 52 or more points. I don’t see a lot of “good” players on that list. Pretty much just all-stars and hall of famers. A few of those players scored their points against terrible teams. (Charles Smith scored 52 against the worst defensive team in the NBA, literally). I don’t think you can really take away from what Dre did.
Brandon Jennings
Dwyane Wade
LeBron James
Kobe Bryant
Brandon Roy
Tony Parker
Michael Redd
Jamal Crawford
Ray Allen
Kobe Bryant
Gilbert Arenas
Allen Iverson
Damon Stoudamire
Jermaine O’Neal
Dirk Nowitzki
Tracy McGrady
Kobe Bryant
Allan Houston
Tim Duncan
Jerry Stackhouse
Allen Iverson
Tony Delk,
Shaquille O’Neal
Karl Malone
Michael Jordan
Glen Rice
Willie Burton
David Robinson
Reggie Miller
Dominique Wilkins
Michael Adams
Bernard King
Charles Smith
I used to be called Nick Van Excellent, but I wasn't really all that excellent.
by The Running Man on Jan 31, 2010 12:18 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah ! Maybe Dre is better than what Dave and Nate think !
I notice in Nate’s comments, after a seemingly stolid “Miller was great” he pointed out his legs were fresh. Point being ? Oh, yeah, he sat on the bench last night… all part of the plan (?).
Hopefully this will establish some Blake like confidence in Nate (and Brandon?) for Miller. I’m sure (or at least I sure do hope) they both enjoy a big win like tonight which should build some good feelings together. Also nice to get a rather more complementary Blazer story on the wire to somewhat eclipse the latest Oden news.
I really thought the Blazers were running out of gas, but once again, they play another amazing game. Maybe the “Roy out” status lulls the other teams to sleep. Batum is another encouraging story. And I am loving the “old vets” play. A great story. Maybe we will beat LA again next week !
"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener
I think Miller is a great PG when you play to his strengths.
Post ups, fast breaks, offensive rebounds. That hasn’t traditionally been the sort of PG Nate is used to coaching, so it’s expected that it would take some time to gel.
Supposedly Nate wanted Miller all along and has been a fan of his, so I don’t think Nate actually has anything against him. I just don’t think he knew how to use him at the start of the season. Plus, having Oden posting up a bunch really killed any chance of Dre really working it in the post.
I used to be called Nick Van Excellent, but I wasn't really all that excellent.
by The Running Man on Jan 31, 2010 12:55 AM PST up reply actions
Dre worked it in the Post with incredile passing when Oden was playing
by Hermistonmelons on Jan 31, 2010 1:03 AM PST up reply actions
Not nearly as much.
He also had a hard time adjusting to Elton Brand’s arrival in Philly. It was a pretty rough start. Miller isn’t exactly used to playing with a center who dominates the post like that.
He’s better with a Camby, Dalembert type of guy who gets his points off lob passes and put-backs.
That’s not to say Miller doesn’t work with Oden, only that it hurt Miller’s scoring game and probably would have taken a while before everything really clicked. The way the offense is now you can see Miller getting a ton of more looks in the post.
I used to be called Nick Van Excellent, but I wasn't really all that excellent.
by The Running Man on Jan 31, 2010 1:18 AM PST up reply actions
The Miller-Oden chemistry was fine from what I saw
There were a number of issues early in the season but integrating those two certainly wasn’t one. Saw a few beautiful assists when Dre cut to the rim after feeding it to Greg in the post. Also there were comments from both of them that they enjoyed playing with each other – Greg made comments that Dre looked for him when they were on court and in an interview tonight Dre said that feeding Greg and getting his confidence up was his no.1 priority. Continuing to help Greg develop as he was this year is the main reason I think keeping Dre is a good and important decision.
thoughts of Miller ODen
are probably why Miller was brought in. Nate loves Blake, Blake does good things, post passing is not his strength though.
All I know is when I saw Miller as a sixer in the Rose Garden last year I remember thinking we need a guy like that. He was the one visiting player who surprised me in a game, others did what I expected or at least suspected they could do, miller impressed.
"Oh Yeah!" ~ Kool Aid Man
I think Dre did a better job with Oden than anyone else on the team.
I still don’t think the offense was running very smoothly. I also don’t think it’s a coincidence that both Roy and Miller started playing well once Oden went down. Both those guys need space to get into the lane and Miller especially needs the post to work his magic.
Eventually it would have gotten ironed out, but at the start things weren’t so smooth. Statistically the offense had lost a ton of efficiency from the previous season.
I used to be called Nick Van Excellent, but I wasn't really all that excellent.
by The Running Man on Jan 31, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
I think I understand what you are saying
Miller feeds players who move better Like a Small foraward Back Cutting) and Oden’s presence in the post means he doesn’t drive as much.
I just see two things. Miller will say flat out that Championship Teams score inside, so he feeds it inside. Also, the comment below from madblaze about Millers number one priority increasing Go’s Confidence.
There is so much “Playa Hating” and mischarachterizations that sometimes we too easily interpret posts that way. My bad
by Hermistonmelons on Jan 31, 2010 7:56 AM PST up reply actions
Not to take anything away from dre but...
Tony delk? Lol
by JMLakaShotCaller on Jan 31, 2010 1:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
played for kentucky, 6'3", was in that great game vs duke
won by christian laettner’s last-second shot
ignacio
Dre was amazing--not enough can be said about that but what about Batum down the stretch
Phenomenal defense from the high flying Frenchman down the stretch. Not only did he stop Dirk cold but he had a couple of big rebounds. Not necessarily difficult boards but key all the same—if Dallas got even one of the two I remember it easily could have been a different outcome
You have my axe!
by you have my axe on Jan 31, 2010 2:14 AM PST reply actions
True
This game showed the value of a stopper, who can effectively deprive the opposing team of their star, by shutting him down at least rendering him ordinary, whether in volume or in efficiency. Like Battier against the Lakers in the NYT article, or when Sacramento got Ron Artest a couple of years ago and dramatically improved its defensive stats. A number of people predicted that Nic’s injury would affect the Blazers more than expected, and this game may have illustrated that point. Martell’s good, but an article or two notwithstanding, probably not elite. Nic is.
I know a buncha people said it already, but...
Dave– whats with the negative vibes on Andre’s spectacular game? You usually take the most menial of player performances and splash some interest to the stat lines. Andre breaks out for 52 and you bash the guy for his previous plays? No celebration of a monumental individual achievement? I’m not reading in to this that much, but you seem way off base compared to your usual analysis.. that is, unless BRoy is guest-ghostwriting your analysis tonight. Then I could understand the Andre-Bashing.
admittedly
The odds of Dirk missing that many crunch-time shots again are next to zilch. We got lucky that he was off. LMA would’ve been crucified had Dirk hit even one of those shots.
Loved Dre’s game. Most field goals EVER by a Blazer. Can’t knock that.
Also as mentioned before, most points EVER by an NBA player who didn’t leave the ground all game.
LMA will be bashed anyway
He missed his late-game FTs once again, and committed a half-foolish, half-flop foul on Dirk in the last moments. He lost Dirk on another possession the same way he lost Paul the other night.
I credit Batum with those stops on Dirk, he stayed in front of him and jumped with him. Did anyone notice that Batum’s arms raised up from a defensive, standing position were still in Dirk’s face when Dirk rose for shots? Man, that kid is gifted.
"OK Kids! Who wants a basketball? That's why I love my Chevy Silverado."
Can’t really complain about LMA’s miss at the end, but the freethrows are inexcusable. Same for the slapping Dirk in the face. What exactly was LMA trying to accomplish there?
by dwaynebillybob on Jan 31, 2010 4:37 AM PST up reply actions
It wasn't just luck. Batum made Dirk alter the trajectory on his shot
All four shots were short because Dirk had to fall away and increase the arc on his shots to get over Nic’s crazy long arms.
by upper left corner on Jan 31, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions
Batum was big
I love seeing Batum on the floor in crunch time. His over-the-shoulder save of a ball going out of bounds with 1:40 in OT was a big possession. … I thnk the Blazers got a bit lucky b/c Andre doesn’t hit those 3s, hookshots, and falling down drives very often—and not all in a row.
That play was sweet
He has such poise and a good head on his shoulders for being so young.
Props
1) Dre for earning the respect he should now receive.
2) Nic – for the hand in face defense against Dirk.
3) Nate – for the sense to keep riding Dre for 41 minutes.
4) Juwan for magic.
5) Dave for this comment:
“Dirk took 3 of Dallas’ final 4 shots and got, in order: bubkus, nada, and squadoosh”.
One of my favorite games ever! Wow!!!!
Dave... Kelly Dwyer is what we expected
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Andre-Miller-drops-52-points?urn=nba,216670
If you’re new to the Dre Miller experience, understand that this isn’t some middling journeyman who enjoyed a night for the ages.
Andre Miller(notes) has never been an All-Star, but he’s enjoyed a few All-Star level seasons. He’s also been a double-figure scorer his entire career, averaging 14.5 points per game, while acting as one of the better pure point guards of his generation. In fact, poll any NBA observer over the last two decades, and they’d likely confirm the notion that Andre Miller – above such stalwarts like John Stockton, Jason Kidd(notes), and Steve Nash(notes) – is probably the best lob passer of his era. Nobody throws a rim-high spiral like this guy.
by Hermistonmelons on Jan 31, 2010 8:33 AM PST reply actions
To be fair, he follows that with something similar, just laid it out better with Props first. Show the man respect first
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Andre-Miller-drops-52-points?urn=nba,216670
But a scorer? Miller could always post-up, dating back to his college days, and nail the mid-range jumper. But he was never a huge worry for opposing defenses. Especially heading into Saturday night, 24 hours after dropping exactly two points against the Houston Rockets.
Or seven points against the Utah Jazz, two nights before that.
Or six points against the New Orleans Hornets two nights before the Jazz game.
by Hermistonmelons on Jan 31, 2010 8:36 AM PST up reply actions
Andre
I don’t know whether it is just a coincidence but Miller has been huge on recent road games but not home games.
I think he was the key to the Blazers being able to pull out 2 of 4 games on the last road trip. (one could perhaps argue Webster should share that honor, however) And obviously Miller was the key to them getting 1 of 2 on this road trip.
Anyway, after Miller having quiet games against Paul and Williams, it was great to see him erupt like a volcano in this one and earn himself some records on the all time list of single-game performances by Blazers.
In the longer term, the big story is Batum. Batum’s defense is one of those things that can help win a team a championship. You need a guy who can keep the Kobes and Lebrons and Nowitskis of the world from making the game-winning shot.
Obviously, that is only one of the things you need to win a championship, and Blazers need a whole lot more of those pieces of the puzzle before they will be in a position to compete for one. But Batum’s defense is one of those pieces, just like Brandon’s offensive talent during crunch time is.
Yet
Batum’s +/- was minus 10 for this game…. I like Batum’s defense. Maybe the -10 was the fact he wasn’t on Dirk for many of his minutes. Dirk was scoring then
by Hermistonmelons on Jan 31, 2010 8:41 AM PST up reply actions
It was great watching Dirk miss those
one-legged fadeaways in the fourth and OT, but it probably wouldn’t happen again.
It was good to see Nate let Miller do his thing since it was obviously working.
This season has been crazy so far. Portland is equally likely to lose five in a row against crappy teams, but win five in a row against the top teams.
The key to the victory
was the Blazers’ ability to defend that two-man play and encourage Dirk to clank.
Hats off to Batum and Aldridge. – Elgin
GOP in HD
Great game.
If LMA could ever put the late game nerves to rest we would be dangerous. I don’t know why after 4 years the guy seems to be mistake prone at the end of games.
I think it is because Roy takes the lead in the 4th qtr. And LA has always played with Roy.
I think LA gets jangled BECAUSE HE DOES HAVE HEART AND CARES…and is afraid of making a mistake. I think with experience he will be fine.
Awesome game
Give Aldridge a little slack. he scord 20. Now suddenly Howard’s fine because he hit ONE shot.
I'm drawing a total blank.
by collectiveshane on Jan 31, 2010 9:41 AM PST reply actions
I saw on some old youtube highlights that Dre has blocked dunks by some 7 footers including Dirk.
This guy has a freakish wing span for a guard.
Not only can Batum play defense
I honestly feel he could be the 2nd option behind Roy on the offensive end. It seems he spent most of the game just running the baseline looking to get the ball in a corner. Why not run some plays for him? He has obviously been working on his pull up jumper, and I think with a bit of practice he could excel at taking the ball to the rim. And we all know how he can finish.
He meant Batum I think....and while Roy is out..anyway it would be nice to see plays for Batum
or maybe he can just get them with on the court flow created by the PG….
I'll hazard a guess and postulate that Dave saw the dominate theme of this thread coming, and tried to head it off at the pass
Andre Miller is still Andre Miller – and he ain’t no superstar. Nothing he did last night transforms his season into anything other than what it already was.
As I have argued several times – Miller is making his positive contributions when he is scoring – with his effectiveness directly related to his proximity to the basket when he shoots.
Last night’s performance was incredible, and I am a grateful fan for Miller making it happen. The Blazers uncharacteristically had an advantage not named Roy and rode it to an improbable win.
But if you think this ratifies Miller’s career or season, you are barking up the wrong tree. Miller hasn’t changed, and this was still an atypical performance.
Going forward, however, it is very clear that Miller represents a significant mismatch against certain teams, and that mismatch can be exploited.
by blacknoiseNW on Jan 31, 2010 11:26 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Not the theme of this thread really,
more a point in general, philosophical terms about huge nights not being the barometer. We know Andre is who he is…a very good pure point guard with some scoring instincts. He’s been that way for all of his career. So a 52-point performance doesn’t make you change your assessment of him that much. Damon Stoudamire was the same way in his huge night against the Hornets a few years ago. This also applies to evaluations of players like Bayless, Batum, Webster, etc. Though you’re a little more excited because they’re at the beginnings of their careers and they have the potential to have more such nights it doesn’t really matter until they actually do perform on a consistent basis. And when they do it’s pretty likely they’ll end up at a place less than the max you see on that one night. Figuring out where takes some time.
—Dave
That's the thing.
I do know what Andre Miller is. I’ve been watching him for a long time. He’s a relatively unspectacular borderline all-star, but only in the second half of the season.
The 52 point performance doesn’t change that, but it’s not the most surprising thing in the world. For one thing he got the benefit of an overtime period. For another thing, Dre is the master of giving his team what they need. If they needs rebounds he’ll crash the board. If the big guy has a mismatch he’ll pound it down low. In the playoffs against the Magic last season he abused Rafer Alston and raised his scoring to 21 points per game, (Along with 6 rebounds and 5 assists) because that’s what his team needed.
BTW, Miller was one of only 5 players to average those type of numbers during last years playoffs and he did against one of the best defensive teams in the league. It’s not like they didn’t have a chance to scout him. Miller doesn’t have “some” scoring instincts. He’s one of the best post up point guards EVER. Around the basket his scoring instincts are out of this world.
I understand that people shouldn’t be expecting this every night (duh), but I predicted that Miller would be scoring around 18 points per game by mid-season, which is reasonable. He’s been so underrated for so long it just feels a tad bit unfair to diminish anything he does. He’s already had enough of that.
I used to be called Nick Van Excellent, but I wasn't really all that excellent.
by The Running Man on Jan 31, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
quibbling a bit with a fact
Miller’s career season high is 17.3 ppg – so predicting 18 ppg by midseason would be, what?
I think what I disagree with most is the notion that Miller is the solution to the Blazer’s problems. He has been a good point guard, and can do some things inside. However, he isn’t the Answer, and never will be.
Used properly, the current edition of Andre Miller is a complementary player that can be a useful weapon with the right matchups. He is not a player that will consistently impose his will on opposing defenses.
The three games preceding last night were not an aberration. Against a strong interior/help defending team, Miller’s opportunity to positively contribute decreases immensely.
by blacknoiseNW on Jan 31, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
Predicting 18 ppg by mid-season isn't anything special at all. Anyone who had followed Miller at all could have seen that coming.
But what does that say about Miller? How many PG’s consistently score around 20 ppg by the time the playoffs roll around?
He is not a player that will consistently impose his will on opposing defenses.
Depends. He imposed his will against the Magic, averaging 21 points a game during the series. They are one of the best interior defensive team in the league.
The three games preceding last night WERE an aberration. He had been averaging around 19 for the past 15 games. Those games had a whole lot more to do with tired legs since he was playing a ton of minutes and carrying the bulk of the offensive load. Kudos to Nate for benching him and getting him some rest.
I used to be called Nick Van Excellent, but I wasn't really all that excellent.
by The Running Man on Jan 31, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
More to the point is that Andre scores like this when Roy is out
and won’t when Roy is back. And that is a good thing for the Blazers.
by blacknoiseNW on Jan 31, 2010 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
Not the most surprising thing in the world?
Well, maybe not, but it rates up there.
A career high at age 33 is surprising, anyway. By that time, you figure you’ve got enough data points on the guy to know his potential for scoring big. Maybe he’ll bump his career high by a point or two at that age, but most players don’t.
But Andre didn’t just get a career high, he smashed it. Previous high was 37, right? And he smashed it by 8 points in regulation. And he went on to rack up another 7 in overtime, which is no small feat.
You do NOT expect a guy to go for 45 when he’s 33 if he’s never gone for 40 before. That’s just crazy. And 52, even with OT?
I don’t know how to search for it, but I would guess that there are less than five players, and maybe only one, in the history of the league who increased their career high by 8 or more points in a game after the age of 30. Andre did it by 15. That’s bizarre.
#7 #10 #25 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!
unpredictability
The Blazers strongest characteristic since the injury plague hit has been their unpredictability.
They do things you’d never expect. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. Last night we saw the positive side of that.
a thought
Last year Dallas was one of those teams that the Blazers couldn’t figure out how to beat. People said bad matchup.
This year it turned out to be a great matchup.
I should go back and look at last year’s news and see what it was about Dallas that explained why the Blazers had a hard time with them.
This year it seems clear: Dallas lacks defense in the paint, and lacks bigs who like to score in the post who could take advantage of Blazers lack of centers.
pretty much
I was at the Christmas day Mavs game last year when they owned us. This year, they don’t have the post presence to take advantage of our size, they don’t have the defense to keep our penetration out of the paint (Dre,Rex,Roy). We could probably go with a starting line-up of Dre, Roy, Webster, Batum, Aldridge against them if we did meet them in the playoffs ( which has a good chance ). Dampier can’t take advantage of Aldridge, and Nic as shown was probably our best defense against Dirk anyways ( Although LMA did good first 3 qtrs ).
I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
They are very vulnerably defensively at the guard positions
and we can attack that from both guard positions this year.
Kidd is slowing down, and Josh Howard is struggling this year. He killed us for a short time, but then started just chucking at the end of the half which let us back in, and never got going in the second half.
Dirk still kills us, and Barea and Terry are too quick for us, but we’ve been able to compensate enough to keep in the game this year.
#7 #10 #25 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!
Another impressive stat for this game was the 2 turnovers in 42 minutes
from Andre.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
I get Dave's point about Andre
Dave just keeping everyone cool. He’s not down on Andre. He just recognizes that usually the outliers for an average aren’t as stark as 2 and 52. Andre has scored 6, 7,2, and 52 points in his last four games. The average is16.75 per game.
Some of the stat guys of Blazers Edge keep making reference to “regression to mean.” That’s simply what happened with Andre. He played against some great point guards and for some reason didn’t do so well. Then he hit the Mavs and did extremely well.
In the end, Andre comes out close to his normal average. The difference is he returned to his mean very fast in one game instead of over several games. I celebrated his prowess during this game. I just don’t expect him to do something spectuacular as often as K*be or LeBron.
As for his all-star status, how often was Drexler voted as a starter while Michael Jordan was playing? How about Buck Williams when Malone was in his prime? My guess is if one were to list the top point guards over the last ten years in order, Miller wouldn’t be considered among the top four year to year. Maybe number 5, but not top four. Was he good and could he have replaced a Nash or Kidd or Paul without embarrassing himself? Yes. Would he have been voted in or selected by the coaches? Probably not.
This is what I think Dave meant
as well
RoadBlazer
Drexler and Jordan
played in different conferences so they didn’t compete head to head for an all-star spot.
my mistake
The point still stands. All star voting by fans only stinks and there may be, on a relative basis, better over all players in a conference that keep an otherwise deserving player out. Miller isn’t going to beat out Nash, Kidd, Williams and Paul for the All Star game. I want Portland to have him if there is one. Two are older but still good and the other two…well, enough said.
should have said
I want Portland to have him if there is somebody better than them.
Who's the last NBA player to score 50+ w/o getting more than 12-14" off of the ground?
You may have to go back into the 1960’s for that answer. His ability to create so much space around him when he needs it is unique.
If he does indeed only have 1 more season with this team, I’d hope that he gifts Bayless with that nasty pump-fake of his before he goes.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
I hope that Miller continues to teach Bayless. I think Bayless has already
learned how to pass much better than he did last year. And the work around the hoop so that he doesn’t get his shots blocked..I want Bayless to learn this also. And he will.
Andre is the perfect compliment to a lot of players long term.
And, occasionally, he will be so on that he will own another team.
If he does it again with Roy back, I actually envision Roy defering. They seem to be getting along lots better IMO. Roy realized “Somebody Moved his Cheese” to a better place
by Hermistonmelons on Jan 31, 2010 5:36 PM PST reply actions
Miller is the 5th oldest player to post a 50+ game
after MJ, Alex English, Bernard Smith and Karl Malone.
3rd oldest to get to 52, after malone and smith.
I have come up with a new nickname for Dre.
Catman. He kind of looks like the cheshire cat in the face. Big ups catman I knew this guy was a baller from the get go.
Miller’s play both last night and all season really shows just how ridiculous Nate’s decision to start Blake at the beginning of the season (and thereafter as well) really was. The man is truly clueless.
The decision to play Blake almost the entire 4th quarter and OT almost cost us the game. Blake gets us killed on defense. Try watching him….the other team almost always targets him….he can’t get around a pick without some brainless switch that leaves him on someone like Dirk….he can’t keep a guy in front of him….he does not deserve to be taking away even one minute of playing time from Andre or Bayless. When Roy comes back…Blake should be a permanent fixture on the bench…..zero minutes until his contract is up. We need to move on from Blake to improve….
Dre justifies KP's summer move, again...
The real problem with Dre in early season was Nate and Brandon… Dre is doing what they brought him here to do, and more: be a savvy veteran point guard, since Blake, Sergio and Bayless couldn’t get it done last year in the playoffs.
So what does Nate do? Put him on the bench, then not play him in the 4th quarters, then start all three guards while moving Brandon to small forward. Wtf? The Roy complains that he’s more comfortable playing with Blake.
We needed a better PG because Blake gets torched by Brooks and just about everyone in the league. So KP got us that guy.
BTW, Blazer fans are amazing. I’ve been checking out the opponents’ sbnation blogs after games — they’ll have 8 comments after a post, while Blazersedge has 194.
When 'Dre shot that awkward looking hook shot...
at the end of the 4th, I couldn’t believe it went in. That was sick… Did you see ’Dre’s reaction when he realized it went in?? He was like ****. Even he couldn’t believe it went. And then in OT when shot his awkward looking 3 pointer, I thought why the h**l not. Amazing game from ’Dre.

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