Media Row Report: Blazers 97 Hornets 98
The story for the Portland Trail Blazers over the last few weeks (read it here, here and here) and for the next few weeks (or until Brandon Roy is back to being Brandon Roy) is late-game execution. With a roster that is once again deep and disciplined enough to stick around with any team in the league, games are being won and lost in the last six minutes, time and again. Guys like LaMarcus Aldridge, Andre Miller, Martell Webster and Jerryd Bayless are either making plays or they are not. Tonight's 98-97 home loss to the New Orleans Hornets was an emphatic "not" as the Blazers were out-scored 12-3 in the game's final 3:06.
Much like their loss to the Memphis Grizzlies earlier this month, the Blazers suffered a near total meltdown when it mattered most. Their only points in the last 3:26 came on 2 free throws by Rudy Fernandez -- awarded for a debatable but probably correct flagrant foul on Marcus Thornton for bumrushing a pick with his elbow -- and a free throw by Miller. Otherwise, the Blazers missed two jumpers, committed a 24 second shot clock violation, missed two more jumpers and then put the game in Jerryd Bayless's hands. Bayless missed one final contested off-the-dribble jumper as the horn sounded. That's 0-5 from the field total. "We definitely miss having that go-to player," Martell Webster said after the game. No kidding.
What made that cold stretch even more frustrating for the Rose Garden crowd was the electric offensive play that directly preceded it. The middle stretch of the fourth quarter saw a fantastic alleyoop from Miller to Aldridge, an even more beautiful give-and-go with Rudy Fernandez and Miller and 6 points from that old oak tree Juwan Howard.
How did things go from one extreme to another? It will be very interesting to hear Nate McMillan's explanation after looking at the game tape. A lot of confusion, a lot of tight play, a lot of miscommunication, a lot of hoping that someone else would step up. Hard to watch and tough to stomach.
On the defensive side of things, it wasn't magic that caused the breakdowns but it was the Nearly Magic Chris Paul. The Blazers point guards were pretty much helpless against Paul on both ends as he ended up tallying 24 points, 12 assists, 7 rebounds, and 5 steals against just 2 turnovers in 42 minutes. All of that while his team traded away two of his teammates -- Devin Brown and Bobby Brown -- on the same day. All told it was the best all-around performance by a Blazer opponent in the Rose Garden this year aside from LeBron James. And the gap between those two was closer than you might think. Paul's highlights included a gorgeous backdoor pass through traffic to a cutting Marcus Thornton for an easy finish and, of course, the game-winning jumper with less than 4 seconds to play.
Nate McMillan admitted that he didn't know exactly how Paul found himself so open for that relatively short game-deciding shot. It was a busted play to some degree, with Paul initially slipping to the floor and then bouncing up just in time to receive the pass, which caused the Blazers rotation to miss him. Despite the confusion, losing Paul at the worst possible moment was an inexcusable execution error, one that immediately led to a 20,000 person group desperation SIGH and, seconds later, a loss.
If there was a bright side to tonight's game for the Blazers it was the triumphant return of French forward Nicolas Batum, who is the greatest player in the history of basketball. Batum was met with a standing ovation when he checked into the game after missing the entire season to this point as he recovered from shoulder surgery. Batum promptly rewarded the home crowd with a swooping lay-in and, soon after, a great off-ball steal and coast-to-coast driving finish. "Three months is long," Batum said after the game, clearly excited to be back. "45 games is very long."
Batum admitted to feeling nerves as he stepped back onto the court but said the standing ovation helped focus his thoughts. "I was really nervous," he admitted. "[The ovation] gave me confidence, it put me in the game." I couldn't help but notice that Blazers General Manager Kevin Pritchard was one of the people standing and clapping as Batum checked in. I asked Batum if he had noticed, as he was standing only 15 or 20 feet from Pritchard when he took his position on his first possession. "Really?" Batum replied, breaking into an ear-to-ear smile. "I didn't see [him]. I was [telling myself to] focus, focus and be ready."
Batum, like his teammates, was disappointed by the loss but called his first run this year "very exciting" and a "great feeling." He also noted that his "condition is good" and that his shoulder is giving him "no problem." Sounds good to me. Start playing him 48 36 25 minutes a night starting Wednesday. Please?
Random Game Notes
- A great honor for the Portland Trail Blazers organization was announced during the game. Turns out the Rose Garden is the first major league venue to be awarded LEED Gold certification for buildings and organizations that deliver "best practices for a building's energy, water and natural resource performance." The Blazers' many efforts to earn this award included upgrading to energy efficient lighting, installing low-flow plumbing fixtures and recycling Juwan Howard. Here's the Press Release.
- Nate McMillan is stuck between a rock and a hard place right now when it comes to his rotation of bigs. After watching the Blazers go down 31-23 after one (including a 16 point deficit at one point!), give up 16 first quarter points in the paint and allow a combined 17 first quarter points to David West and Emeka Okafor, McMillan must be reconsidering the idea of starting Jeff Pendergraph. While SNAKE SNAKE SNAKE SNAKE has provided highlights plays on both ends, his consistency play-to-play just isn't there yet. He's a second round rookie and it's important to keep that context. But, to be frank, he's getting killed out there. I was going to save this stat for a forthcoming mid-year evaluation post but through the first 41 games of this season, opponents are shooting 57.5% against him. Compare that to 41.3% for Juwan Howard and 39.4% for LaMarcus Aldridge. Pendergraph also fouled on 24.2% of his 1 on 1 defensive possessions, compared to 7.2% for Howard and 8.9% for Aldridge. Now these numbers are surely subject to a "sample size" warning label given that Pendergraph missed the first 1/3 of the season due to injury. But still. Those are gaping disparities that are impossible to sustain.
- McMillan's theory, as explained to Joe Freeman of The Oregonian, was to separate Dante Cunningham and Pendergraph so the two rookies weren't playing defense together in the second unit. With Nicolas Batum looking and talking like he is ready for his minutes to ramp up relatively quickly, I would leave him in the second unit and play him alongside the two rookies. By definition, second string centers will exploit Pendergraph less than first string centers. And with Batum out there setting a tone defensively, I think you can get away with playing those 3 together for stretches, despite their youth.
- Have you heard about the new cocktail named Juwan Howard's Goatee? It's one part Glidden paint, one part Just For Men and one part formaldehyde... stirred vigorously. I'll stop now. Howard went for 16 points, 6 rebounds and 4 assists and looked like the most comfortable Blazer during the fourth quarter. Remarkable.
- The Hornets locker room vibe was nice and light, befitting their down-to-the-last-second road win in a tough building. Perhaps the most notable feature was a table covered with Chris Paul jerseys laid out waiting to be autographed. The recipient? An auction for Tom Penn's charity, Hoops for St. Jude. +1 Chris Paul.
- The Blazers took 84 field goal attempts to 68 for the Hornets and made 5 more field goals than New Orleans, yet still lost. How? David West made more free throws (10) than Portland's entire team (9).
- It was great to see Dave and Dave's father take their seats in the very last row of the 300 level, surrounded by Blazers fans -- rows and rows of kids... LOUD, early arriving kids -- in every direction. During the fourth quarter the Jumbotron briefly flashed a sign that read, "Thanks Blazersedge!" I had a nice moment of pride as another writer pointed that out to me. "Hey! That's OUR site!" To those that helped make Blazersedge night possible please allow a single tear to trickle down your face. Grab the hankie. Dab. Dab. You did it. And they loved it. Surely Dave will have more on the entire evening. Before the fourth quarter started, I asked him whether he had spoken with many members of the BE community during the game. Using the exact same tone, emphasis and words as Nate McMillan did when I asked whether Batum could play Power Forward, Dave replied, "Oh yeah." With a big smile. Bravo, Dave, your vision became a great reality.
Nate's Post Game Comments
Had some technical problems with the recorder tonight. Apologies. Check out a partial transcript of Nate McMillan's comments here.
-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter
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35 mpg for Batum!
Is there anyone in the league that Blake can cover who Batum can’t?
Nope.
Keep the kid in there.
Batum was awesome
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 6:48 AM PST up reply actions
wow, that Pendergraph stat is kind of a revelation
It might just be enough for me to change my previously held position that he should play more minutes in place of Juwan.
#52
I saw those stats a long time ago
Back in November, I think. I just didn’t say anything because I figures of all people, Jake and Cabby would have researched those stats.
by tominhawaii on Jan 26, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
True
I missed the first, but watching the rest of the game, it seems like Pendy might be selling himself out too much on the offensive boards, especially against a team with a guy like CP. It seemed like every missed shot Pendergraph was throwing himself wildly at the rebound and ending up stumbling into the first row or on the ground despite being in terrible position to get the board.
I love the effort, but when our defense is scrambling and outnumbered for the first 5-6 seconds of every possession, a guy like Chris Paul is going to exploit it. Maybe this wasn’t happening, though, hard to say.
#52
As good as Pendy has been for a second round rookie...
He does tend to miss defensive rotations and does not tend to slide to right places when his man leaves to double team guys like Miller on offense. (hence leading to turnovers) Dante also has similar issues with defensive rotation as well. While I understood Nate’s reason for starting Pendy, I wasn’t a fan of it.
Still, it might be worth putting him out there just to save Grandpa’s legs. Perhaps still start Juwan but pull him earlier for Dante instead of Pendy depending on the matchups?
"I think he’s been doing some good things. I think he’s been doing some good things. He’s had to play a lot of minutes lately with Blake being out. I think he’s been doing some good things." -Nate McMillan
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!! STOP calling Pendergraph SNAKE SNAKE SNAKE SNAKE
Pendergraph, PenderBender, or PENDERBEAST OK but not Snake! Please!
As to the Stat you cite I say Really? No Kidding? Oh yeah. He’s a Rookie!
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LMA Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I <3 LMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The PENDERBEAST is on the Prowl Looking for an Opposing 4 or 5 to DEVOUR!!!!!!!!!!
by LaMarvelous on Jan 26, 2010 12:57 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I call him Jeff and have high hopes for him
Not happy with Nate tonight,hope he can look in the mirror and admit that he made a mistake playing Blake but I doubt it.Rudy,Nic and Bayless need to sit on the bench and watch his defensve greatness so they can learn how to do it.I hope the Kids had a great time,congrats Dave,you da man
by southern oregon on Jan 26, 2010 1:35 AM PST up reply actions
You know who else is getting 'killed out there'? LMA
And yet I still hear people praising his defense. The entire league abuses LMA and people still praise his defense and give him $65 million
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 6:52 AM PST up reply actions
…through the first 41 games of this season, opponents are shooting… 39.4% [against] LaMarcus Aldridge.
also, “people” are giving him $65 million? I’m pretty sure just one guy has to do that. I know I haven’t shelled out $65 mil for a power forward lately. of course, that’s because I’m already paying Tracy McGrady $22 million to sit on my couch.
oh man, I think I'm average like, ten points, like, twelve, thirteen dimes, like two, three assists, and about four, five rebounds, and if we need me to play, play a different position, I might get a little bit more.
The Blazers organization consists of people yes
And I don’t know what the 39.4% stat means, you don’t either. I imagine that even Dave would admit its vague.
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
you mean more or less vague than "LMA is getting killed out there"?
by blacknoiseNW on Jan 26, 2010 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
i mean he's playing bad defense and in this game at least, didn't contribute much on offense either
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
from http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/12/4/1182582/synergy-sports-the-blazers:
2. LaMarcus Aldridge is Underrated on Defense
Aldridge rates overall as a “Very Good” defender. Amazingly, players shoot just 35.9% against him overall. We might attribute that to his length (ability to contest shots) and athleticism (you rarely see him burned off the dribble by a post man for an easy bucket). Aldridge rates “Excellent” in defending spot-up shooters, rates “Very Good” defending players in isolation face-ups and surprisingly (to me) rates “Excellent” defending pick and rolls. His man has shot just 22.5% when receiving the pass on a pick and roll. That puts Aldridge in the 94th percentile league-wide.
The one area where Aldridge gets the most flak from fans — his inability to guard guys on the block — is the area that Synergy has also identified as his weakest. He rates “Below Average” in the 20th percentile. It’s important to note, however, that he found himself in this defensive situation on just 17% of the defensive plays that Synergy charted. In other words, most fans and analysts that pick on this aspect of Aldridge’s defense are focusing on less than one of five plays he participates in. On the other four of five, he’s about as good as you can ask for.
I suppose stats seem more vague and open to interpretation when they disagree with your own opinions.
oh man, I think I'm average like, ten points, like, twelve, thirteen dimes, like two, three assists, and about four, five rebounds, and if we need me to play, play a different position, I might get a little bit more.
that or there's little to no backup on how those 'stats' were arrived at
with all due respect to Dave or anyone else, i highly bout they have watched 100% of plays and slated where LMA was on the floor at all times. do those stats take into account LMA was helping someone else? are they strictly when he was playing 1 v 1?
So yeah..
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
in fact in that very thread jksnake asks the same question
there’s no way you are statistically accounting for each player 100% of defensive plays. sorry
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
that is actually the entire point of Synergy Sports
it is a data gathering and analysis service that involves indexing every play of every game, as Ben, Henry Abbott, and others have explained. supposedly (I personally do not have access), they tag video of every play that every player is involved in, for every game. how exactly are defensive stats derived? I can’t give you a specific breakdown, because I don’t work for Synergy. did Ben cite help defense in his breakdown? no, he used 1 on 1 numbers. does that mean help defense numbers don’t exist? neither you or I are in a position to know that. however, you didn’t complain about LA’s help defense above, you called him a terrible defender overall, which is provably false.
I suppose you can go into a rant here about how there’s no transparency regarding how these stats are gathered, but all things considered, I’ll be taking the numbers from an extremely comprehensive and well-regarded statistical gathering service, whose revenue stream and indeed very existence depends on the accuracy and reliability of their research, over the ranting of one observer over the internet needlessly grinding his axe over LA.
oh man, I think I'm average like, ten points, like, twelve, thirteen dimes, like two, three assists, and about four, five rebounds, and if we need me to play, play a different position, I might get a little bit more.
speaking of bad defense...
this is a vague way of defending your vague claim that he is getting abused by half the league
no the entire league laughs at our franchise for giving LMA 65 mil
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Aw, Ben...
It’s bad enough the Mikes are pushing a ridiculous nickname on us—not you, too! Bedge is better than that!
Yeah I was going to say the only hint of Blazersedge I saw was that "thanks Blazersedge" sign in the 4th.
Too bad they didn’t get more coverage. I was in section 101. I looked all over the arena for some Blazersedge signs.
One of the sites I go to just posted a thread that linked to some Greg Oden nude photos. What is
Greg thinking? I hope this doesn’t cause much embarasment for the franchise. Really dumb move by Greg.
lol
“One of the sites I go to”
Is it OK to guess which site you visit that posts photos of naked men?
by tominhawaii on Jan 26, 2010 3:53 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Humor fail
He got you, laugh at yourself, say “well played”, and vow to get him back someday. He’ll give you plenty of opportunity.
#7 #10 #25 #52 -- #5 & #88 are back!
LaMarcus killin me
Also I believe that part of the team’s last-game execution woes stem from depending on Roy so much when he’s healthy. Nate’s arsenal in late-game situations is really really poor. As I listened to him try to explain the Bayless play, I was struck by how utterly clueless he sounded.
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Also I heard Nate repeat his ultra-lame excuse 'guys have to knock down shots'
/facepalm
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 6:44 AM PST up reply actions
and lastly he threw Miller under the bus again
though Miller took a few ill-advised shots, AT LEAST HE WAS WILLING TO FREAKIN SHOOT UNLIKE THE REST OF THESE PANSIES
Ugh. Sorry I had to get that out.
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 6:47 AM PST up reply actions
Some nights it seems like nobody wants to take a shot...
what is the deal with that? Maybe they just enjoy the hilarity of watching MIller having to jack up a super long range three at the shot clock buzzer?
Yah, you're right leeroy. It's Brandon's fault. Hope he stays injured.
If this Blazer team doesn't light your fire, then your wood is wet!
I don't know what you're doing here but maybe you miscontrued what I meant
The fact that the team’s late game strategy is, and always has been, to stand around and let Roy go one on one leaves the rest of the team ill-equipped to step up and know wtf to do in crunch time is undeniable.
Whether you want to blame that on Roy or whatever and hope he stays injured is your own deal.
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions
How do you not know where CP3 is in the last seconds of the game???
Even if he was on the ground, somebody should have been looking for him.
Hate the snake name.
Welcome back Batumshakalaka !!!!!
Small ball does not win championships.....
Go Blazers !!
That wouldn't happen if we didn't have a player of his talent on the team.
Perhaps we should trade him for something less.
If this Blazer team doesn't light your fire, then your wood is wet!
or Nate could scheme a late-game offense that isn't horribly predictable and easily defended
and all the while get the other guys on the team some experience handling the ball/taking shots in late game situations
there’s that
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
getting other guys some experience?
isn’t that what just happened last night with the play he drew up for Bayless?
yeah, forget that, why wasn’t Roy or Outlaw taking the shot from the bench? what a terrible coach.
oh man, I think I'm average like, ten points, like, twelve, thirteen dimes, like two, three assists, and about four, five rebounds, and if we need me to play, play a different position, I might get a little bit more.
Dude..... I need to have a long talk about LaMarcus Aldridge.
Last night: 16 points, 6 boards.
Juwan Howard: 16 points, 7 boards (off the bench)
That’s all I can muster.
Life is hilarious.
also Juwan played better D
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
LMA not coming up big
Isn’t it telling that in the season after LaMarcus gets a huge contract that makes him essentially a franchise player and with the game on the line, the Blazers don’t go to him?
he's getting killed on the morning shows and rightfully so
and yet his stats look decent. so goes Lamarcus
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 6:53 AM PST up reply actions
i love Lamarcus, but...
i just wished someone would show him some old 2 man game tape on old Karl Malone and tell him “Now go do dat”.
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
on sports radio this am they suggested he go work out with MMA guys lol
ive decided that i dont love lamarcus as much as i love the idea of how good he could be
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Steve Blake worked out with an MMA guy
I’m assuming you love him.
oh man, I think I'm average like, ten points, like, twelve, thirteen dimes, like two, three assists, and about four, five rebounds, and if we need me to play, play a different position, I might get a little bit more.
Pendy
Guess Pendy is getting put in a bit too much before he’s ready.
Give Batum some minutes at the 4 with Aldridge sharing duties with Howard at the 5.
From my understanding of BB
The number of free throws tells the story.
According to most, the lack of free throws is lack of aggressiveness and to many jumpers.
I heard Wheels comment on the fact that Portland had four fouls to NOH none at one time in the third and one time in the fourth.
We made it easy for them and they made it hard on us.
hg
but those jumpers according to Nate should be knocked down at a 100% rate!!
lol
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 7:07 AM PST up reply actions
I think West is a pro at getting fouled. Also I think the Blazer rookies tend to foul as they are NEW
to the NBA and need to learn not to foul. Remember Bayless last year? FOUL MACHINE. He has gotten much better this year. Also in the pre-game I heard that NOH historically does not allow their opposition to get to the foul line much. (recorded this..was at the game).
The game didn’t seem as bad to me as the loss to Memphis for some reason. I think it was because I KNEW how tired and how long some of the players had played in Friday and Saturday’s games. Miller, LA and Webster all played monster minutes. Esp Miller and LA in both games….Webster played all 48 minutes in Detroit but played only around 30 some minutes against the Celitcs…oh and HOWARD…also played ridiculous amts. of minutes.
The first game back after a road trip with only one day off is NOT EASY.
YET THE TEAM IS NOT TAKING THAT EASILY MADE EXCUSE…they had some tired legs.
I say give them all a break!
How do you set a guy for twenty minutes and then expect him to come in stone cold and hit with the game on the line?
If Bayless was the guy who could break down the defense, and his play early in the game showed that he was, why did Nate pull him with 7:38 remaining? Bayless was doing a better job of containing CP3 than either Blake or Miller.
Nate makes me crazy. His Blake fetish was at the root of the problems with Miller. His Blake fetish stands in the way of developing Bayless.
Either Blake, or Nate, needs to go…….maybe both, if Nate can’t figure out an offense other than running isos for Roy.
Great to see Nic on the floor. When all the pieces are back, we have an amazing amount of talent.
by upper left corner on Jan 26, 2010 8:16 AM PST reply actions
Not defending Nate or the team.
JBay is coming off an injury and wasn’t sure he could play, the trainer only cleared Batman for 15 minutes a game. As a result that may have been the reason for their lack of play.
I am not a BB whiz, but Antonio Harvey said that we had quit moving people and the ball and started gong one on one. That was the big reason we let them back in the game when it appeared we had the momentum and the game in control.
My problem with that is I don’t understand why. If we know we lose when we become a jump-shooting team and we win by passing and movement offense, why then do we always go back to the jumper? Is it because of laziness, fatigue, fear, or looking for a quick fix whether then doing what they know needs to be done? I just don’t understand it.
They are young and they will learn. I know sometimes I lack patients, but it would have been so easy to come out with the win if they wanted it bad enough.
hg
oh well, we lost to a team that has been playing very well....
It was still a fun game to watch. I loved the energy the bench brought and it was fun to watch Bayless, Rudy, Nic and Dante play together… they were balling. And Nic was awesome! He’s definitely confident about his game. Right out of the gate he scored. It was good to see (plus his D!!). Very excited to see what sort of player he will develop into.
I’d like to see this rotation once Roy returns:
Miller, Roy, Webster, Aldridge, Howard
Blake, Rudy/Bayless, Batum, Cunningham, Pendergraph
..and then you play Rudy/Bayless behind Roy depending on who is producing that night. You can also move Rudy to the 3 and Batum to the 4 depending on the matchup. This creates room for Bayless at the 2 if Cunningham is having an off night.
Ben is right. Pendergraph isn’t a starter yet. I know we’re trying to keep miles off Howard’s tires but we need his veteran leadership in the middle, particularly without Roy. I’m really, really disappointed in LaMarcus play recently. He’s a good player but he’s JUST good enough to annoy the hell out of me when he isn’t being aggressive. When the game is on the line you better expect somebody like a Pau Gasol to step up and make plays late. Why isn’t our #2 showing up? Everyone talks about LaMarcus the All Star one day. Well, he’s a ways off from that yet. In order to be an All Star, you need to take have the ability to take over a game late when your team needs you most. LaMarcus fails in that respect. These are the shots he took late in last night’s game.
6:41 misses a 9ft jumper
5:58 he makes a gimme in the paint
3:12 misses an 18ft jumper
Seriously? That’s our budding All Star power forward? In a close game late he took a grand total of 3 shots and only made one of them? No free throws. I don’t get it. No Roy, no excuses.
"I'm at clips-blazers + Juwan Howard just posterized Marcus Camby. Crowd is still reeling. That dunk was from 2 decades ago."
- Bill Simmons on Twitter
You are proposing to split 10-12 minutes between Rudy and Bayless?
That is how many minutes are available at back-up SG. Makes no sense to me. Blake should sit. JB is the back-up PG.
by upper left corner on Jan 27, 2010 8:31 AM PST up reply actions
Brandon Roy!
He’s our super star and we miss him. It’s hard for any team to win consistently without theirs. Nitty gritty time in the 4th is when defenses step up. It’s harder to get points then; that’s why you go to Roy, Koby, James, Wade, Paul etc. at the end when you need critical points. Without them it’s a lot tougher.
So what do we do when we lose a game like this? We blame the coach for going through Roy too much when the game is on the line. Are you kidding me?! And we also blame Nate and Blake because their injured favorite missed the final shot and didn’t get as many minutes as they desired.
This team (and coach) has been doing an incredible job considering the injury circumstances. How can I be disappointed in last nights game? We were without our biggest star and best player, both centers and Outlaw, it was Nic’s first night back and Bayless’ time was limited following his injury. I thought we did damn well!
P.S. Bayless has been given plenty of opportunity so far this season so quit whining. He’s done some good things with that opportunity but hasn’t yet shown all that much in a rather important area for a 2 guard, i.e., shooting.
If this Blazer team doesn't light your fire, then your wood is wet!
by TwoDeep on Jan 26, 2010 9:14 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
Oops .... that should read Kobe. Sorry Kobe.
If this Blazer team doesn't light your fire, then your wood is wet!
Hindsight is always 20-20, but I have to admit, my wife and I both groaned when we saw Blake at the scorer's table
with two minutes to go. He’d been getting abused on defense all night. I think it’s because Nate is so turnover averse and he really wants ball security in crunch time, I think risk takers like Rudy and Andre make him crazy.
i agree, Nate seemed furious with Miller
i think the fact that Andre hoisted up a few shots without running 22 seconds off the shot clock passing the ball around the perimeter was very upsetting to Nate
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
Nate needed Blake in their so he could step out of bounds towards the end...Blake isn't good in
last minute crunch/clutch situations…MOST of the time. I DO remember one STELLAR clutch shot he made at the end of a game last year…that won the game for us and won’t forget it…..seems like more often though..this year..he has stepped out of bounds toward the end…more than once…toward the end of the game.
Amusing story...
Couple games back, I was watching a Blazer game and the new G/F comes in the room and starts watching as well. As Blake was running across the screen, she comments “that Blake guy is awful. I went to the Rose Garden the other day and he seem to miss all his shots. They could have won without him because it was a close game and if he didn’t miss all those shots”. So, I reply, “That’s Blake for you. He won’t drain the shots that’ll put you up in a close game, but he’ll drain them once there are some differential in points between the two team”. As on cue, Blake drains a three to put us up by 24 points and getting an immediate agreement from the G/F.
Still, I didn’t have too much of a problem at the time because Blake was playing some good D. However, I am starting to get pretty sick of Barrett slobbering over everything Blake does. I remember couple possessions where Dre dimes Howard for a layup and Dre tips a pass out of bounds, and the comments were “Nice pick by Blake” and “Nice rotations by Blake”. Hmm….
"I think he’s been doing some good things. I think he’s been doing some good things. He’s had to play a lot of minutes lately with Blake being out. I think he’s been doing some good things." -Nate McMillan
you like it when Rice calls him Blakey
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
Iso
It is beyond me that they only ran 3 ISO’s the entire 4th quarter and 7 total for the game. It is their bread and butter. For the season ISO is 16% of their offense in the final 3:00 since roy has gone out it has dropped to 10%. I say if you are going to use a system, stick with it regardless of personnel. In the 4th Qtr last night of the 3 ISO’s 2 were made baskets, Rudy and Jerryd, and the 3rd was the shot at the buzzer. I’d like to think we could have done better than we did had we not had a lapse of almost 10 minutes without an ISO.
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by InvisibleNinja on Jan 26, 2010 10:12 AM PST reply actions
Defense ?
In Nate’s comment’s the very last 2 sentences read;
We had the game in our hands and kind of let it slip away, but we’ll learn from it though. You’ve got to get stops down the stretch."
again
You’ve got to get stops down the stretch."
Everyone seems to talk about offensive failures This small little comment says a lot.
When the Blazers get this part, they will win games like these. Good defense can compensate for missed shots and is the balance the Blazers have not mastered.
Like Nate said above, “learn” from your shortcomings and then remember them the next time. The Blazers need consistency to solidify natural behavior and instincts. You will be surprised at how good defense can keep other aspects in the background. Usually if you play good defense the offense takes care of itself. (Jack Ramsey)
Except we did get stops
In the last two minutes, we shut them down except for one broken play.
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I can't argue
I didn’t see the game. When I don’t get to watch, I usually go to the coaches comments and get his perspective on what happened. I then go back and compare his notes with his past game notes and my past game observations. The memory is taxed a little (for me), but usually you can find some common answers for loses like this one. I still remind myself, quite often, that sometimes you just get beat by a better team.
Therefore, I was commenting more on the big picture or philosophy, if you will.
Collison hit a jumper with two minutes left
and then we shut them down until the last play, and it was a flukey one.
You are correct that this is key. But from 3 1/2 minutes out, they only scored on 4 possessions, and of those, the only one that was poor defense was when we didn’t get back on transition and CP3 got a 3 point play. In the half court, we played good D, but they made good plays to get a couple good looks and made them both, and then we had the fluke play.
Darren Collison shoots 42% and 25% on 3s, and he made both of his shots down the stretch, one of them a 3. If you have to control David West and Chris Paul, giving up a 3 to Collison doesn’t mean you played bad D. He misses that and it never comes down to the last play.
The failure in this game most certainly was offensive. We made no FGs in the last 3:51, and only one FT in the last 3 minutes.
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It's a mindset
that I will never be able to shake. You may only score 79, but if the other team scores
78 , you win. I think you will find that when outcomes of games are decided, defense plays the most dominate role. Trying to outscore out offense teams will never be the route to championships. It’s so easy to get caught up in offense. It is “the show” in the NBA.
Defense along with some other fundamentals has less glamor and often less attention during the game flow. Of course, the final 4 minutes of a tight contest, sticks in peoples minds the most, and if you can’t score, it has solid ground to qualify your conclusion.
Could it be possible, that good defense may have allowed the Blazers some easier chances at the hoop? You state that they made the plays and we didn’t. Some Blazer wins have had the same scenario. In other words, these games could go either way, depending on who gets the stops and who scores. Which is exactly my point, defense may always be in the background, but it is almost always the difference maker.
I don’t know if NO’s defense had anything to do with our execution down the stretch, so I continue to comment only on the defensive mindset, in general.
Ps I am sorry for commenting when I didn’t see the game. I have this conclusion etched and it won’t go away. I used Nate’s comments out of context, to drive home my opinion on defense.
We blew out to an 8 point lead
between the 7 and 4 minute mark. And you are right that defense helped to create opportunities — we weren’t great in the half-court offense IMO, but got some nice opportunities before they got their defense set.
In the last four minutes, N.O. played excellent defense, no doubt about that. Collison is a good defender, and so is Chris Paul, and they played both of them. They pretty much kept Andre down all night, and totally closed him down in the last four minutes. He did get one good look just before Paul made his game winner, but mostly, they shut him down in the half court.
We did get a couple good shots, the one Andre missed, and Juwan had an open shot (and he’d been scoring to that point, as well). But we had too much standing around on offense, not enough passing, not enough off-the-ball movement, and no attacking the basket.
You will never completely shut down an NBA team that executes well. The offensive player always has the advantage, because he knows where he is going and you have to react, and he is quick enough that the difference gives him an edge. No matter how good the defense is, if an offense executes well, they will get good looks, and some of them will go in.
The key is to take away their first option, then react and take away the second, and make them go to at least the third or fourth option. If you can do that, chances are high they will make a mistake or hesitate enough in reading the situation that you have a chance to recover, and they have to start over again.
In my opinion, both teams were playing very good defense in the last four minutes, but N.O. made all of their open looks and we only managed a couple of good looks in that time due to poor execution, and converted none of them.
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You are right in my opinion. I was at the game. (reply to WyEast) defense DOES
MATTER!!!! When Batum was in the game we were able to score due to better DEFENSE! It created offense. PERIOD. Noone is mentioning the first quarter…they were BEAT..TIRED at the end. The Blazers came back from a 16 point deficit…that happened at the start of the 1st quarter!!!!
I think the defense in the 1st quarter was NOT good. The Blazers came back from being down 16 points.
I agree. Jeff is a rookie and should probably not be starting. He will get better with time and the rotation of Batum, Jeff and Cunningham sounds like a good one.
You are correct about the first quarter
Well, it improved the last four minutes, but the first 8 minutes were abysmal. Credit to them for making all of their shots, but they got too many easy looks.
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lol you gotta get stops the entire game, not just down the stretch
giving up 35 pts in the first or whatever tells me that was not the case last night
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions
You are correct
But it also tells you that holding them under 100 means we played some pretty good D after the first.
If the D is better in the first, the game is different but we probably win without a lot of trouble. But after that, the problem wasn’t defense.
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the first five or six minutes were the deciding factor imo
fatigue, jet lag, whatever you want to call it. that was ugly.
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Yes
I thought Nate was just trying to cover any questions that may be asked. I am always glad to hear comments about defense and hope that it gets to the forefront more often. I jumped on it some.
Defense needs to be played for 48 minutes. (IMO) It is the most valuable tool of the trade.
This isn't noted often enough. You can put just about any team of NBA players on the floor and
night in and night out they will score about 95 points, give or take. The team who can get stops will win the game.
The other thing I don’t get, is this fixation on the last two minutes of the game, or the last shot. The fact is, a basket in the first quarter contributes exactly as much to the win as a basket as the buzzer, a stop in the second quarter is a valuable as a stop in the last 30 seconds. An unguarded Chris Paul is as big a blunder 1 minute into the game as it is on the last shot.
yes, I agree
I think most team’s success ratio is definitely attributed to playing 48 minutes of consistent and fundamentally sound basketball. You put yourself in jeopardy in the final minutes by not ’holding serve" during the first 40 minutes of play.
Even the good teams have trouble with this for 48 minutes, but the idea is to make “philosophy” out of this mindset.
sometimes i just wonder if nate sees and comprehends the problems we all see
yeah we’re not NBA coaches. so what. some of the problems are pretty obvious and the solution is not ‘we just gotta knock down shots’
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
I think you can largely ignore Nate's public comments
They probably have little relation to what he says to his assistants and the players.
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same old problems aren't getting corrected, so if he is addressing them behind closed doors he is not doing a great job of it
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by leeroyjenkins on Jan 26, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
I read the comments
as whats on his mind. Basically thinking out loud and still trying to answer questions. You know, it’s all after the fact and doesn’t fix nothing if you see the same things in future games. The part about “learn from our mistakes” and “defensive stops” are just a couple of the items that sometimes sneak to the surface.(and are in the back of his mind) I’m sure Nate recognizes his teams shortcomings, but getting them translated out onto the floor is another matter.
This is a good time(this season) to bite the bullet and address them more aggressively. It is a longer term commitment and will produce more controversy, but it could pay off down the road.
Difficult with young players (many with marginal talent that don’t have the full compliment of skills). But you could at least provide a fundamental foundation for them to improve their game.
He has this certain group of players that individually perform better in certain environments. In effect it divides the team some. Dividing a youthful team with potential never gets them a true identity to build from. (other than building everything around Roy). Injuries has forced a “gut check” and for the most part, they have done well in this area. So it is also a good time to evaluate your players a little more deeply and get a feel for what you want this team to look like down the road.
I couldn’t know if this generation will produce a championship contender, but if it does, I’d bet there will be some different faces in the photo….and, sorry, but they will be a good defensive team.
Yes, if they don't win something will happen. I guess. Well, probably not. But they have to win. They just have to.
Well, if we get shut out this week
our playoff spot is in significant jeopardy. And it will be hard to get a win in either game in Texas.
We can survive a 1-3 week, but if we want to make the playoffs, an 0-4 week is not advisable. Too many teams right behind us.
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I agree that if they want to get in the playoffs they have to continue to win at a reasonable pace. I just wonder
what catastrophic event will occur if they don’t win this next game that they HAVE TO win. Will Batum’s arm fall off? Kevin Pritchard get sucked into a black hole?
With all the
injuries this year I don’t think I would temp fate.
by Flapbreaker on Jan 26, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Bad things
A) They will be behind LA, Dallas, Denver, Utah, and San Antonio. That is five teams, including the two most hated.
B) They will potentially be behind Memphis in the loss column. That makes six teams.
C) They will potentially be tied in the loss column with Phoenix, Houston, N.O., and OKC. That’s four more teams, which means on the verge of dropping out of playoff position BEFORE the Texas trip. It is one thing to drop back as a result of the trip, quite another to drop back before you leave.
D) They will be favored to lose the tie-breakers with Denver, Utah, Memphis, and N.O., at least, and four potential conference losses this week would wipe out much of the conference record advantage they have built over the first half of the season, hurting other tie-breakers as well.
The catastrophic event that might occur if we don’t win at least one this week is that the losses come back to haunt us and we get knocked out of the playoffs.
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Sure, and of course none of those teams will drop a game they should have won for the rest of the season, and
they certainly haven’t one that so far this year.
It comes out in the wash.
Greg Oden..
Taking off from work…
Taking off his pants. O boy!
by captain flitzy on Jan 26, 2010 12:41 PM PST reply actions

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