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Midseason Grades #2

We continue our mid-season look at individual Blazers...

Steve Blake  28.8 mpg, 7.9 ppg, 40.8% fg, 40.4% 3pt, 3.6 apg, 2.5 rpg, 2.58 ast/t.o. ratio

Steve Blake has had a couple of amazing seasons with the Trail Blazers (well, amazing Blake-wise anyway).  In '05-'06 he shot 43.8% from the field, 41.3% from the three-point arc and impressed Coach McMillan so thoroughly with his hustle and point guard custodianship that McMillan asked for him back after he had been traded away.  In '08-'09 Blake fired at a 42.8% clip, 42.7% from the arc.

Unfortunately the beginning of this season Blake has drifted close to the form that he showed elsewhere, playing on teams that were pretty much OK with trading him away.  That's not to say he's been horrible.  Rather he's been the pedestrian Steve Blake that most people see him as rather than the productive utility man Blazers fans have come to expect.  His shooting percentages are down significantly from last season across the board.  The 40.4% three-point percentage looks fairly good still but Blake has earned it in streaky fashion, hitting everything some nights and nothing others.  First, that's not Steve Blake.  Second, the Blazers have other players who can do the streak thing but bring far more upside.  When you consider that much of his oft-cited offensive compatibility with Brandon Roy is predicated on the distance shot falling any reduction bodes ill, as this is one of the main reasons to have him on the court.

Some of this can be attributed to yo-yoing around with the rest of the backcourt in the three-guard sets.  All of the backcourt players were in positions foreign to them in the early season.  This may also account for the significant drop in assist he's experienced this year. 

In Steve's defense he still brings an unimposing court sense to the floor that none of the other guards possess.  Miller has the sense but is more imposing.  Bayless doesn't have it yet.  But Miller appears to be assimilating and Bayless appears to be gaining some point guard sensibilities, both of which will usurp Steve's territory.  Perhaps he's feeling that pinch.  Or perhaps he's just having an off year.  Either way, it hasn't been the best year for him, even by his own standards.

Grade: C- 

Joel Przybilla  22.7 mpg, 4.1 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 1.4 bpg, 52.3% fg, 64.7% ft

Greg's back, now Greg's injured.  Greg's in foul trouble.  Now he's not in foul trouble.  Now he's in foul trouble again.  Now he's still in foul trouble but we need him in there anyway.  Oops!  Now he picked up another one.  Joel?  Oh Joel!  You're in.

And out.

And in again.

So goes the story of Joel Przybilla.  And up until the night he went fetal and started pounding the floor he gave the Blazers what he's always given them:  excellent rebounding per minute, credible paint defense, and a willingness to do what was needed when it was needed without complaining, taking space, creating headlines, or doing anything but contributing to the cause.

As with Blake, Joel's overall numbers are down this year.  He had a superlative season last year which accounts for some of it, but his overall production and percentages are slightly on the low side for his Portland tenure.  But, a few erratic sub-19-minute outings aside, Joel has continued to hold up his end of the court nearly every night under diverse conditions.  There's really not much to complain about with him except for things that are undeniably Joel-ish, like the inability to catch the ball in or near traffic.  Overall he's exactly the Joel you want and exactly the kind of bench player every team needs.

Grade:  A-

Click through to see reports on Rudy Fernandez, Juwan Howard, and Jerryd Bayless,

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Rudy Fernandez  22.2 mpg, 8.1 ppg, 40.1% fg, 35.5% 3pt, 2.5 rpg, 2.0 apg, 1.24 ast/t.o. ratio

Rudy has played only 23 games this year due to injury.  In those 23 games he's seen his minutes decrease by 3.4, his shooting percentage drop 2.4 percentage points, and his all-important three-point percentage drop 4.4 percentage points.  Like Steve Blake, Rudy's shooting has either been dead on or just plain dead with little in-between.  He's looked tentative on shots, his cuts (when made) haven't connected, and nothing is coming easy for him.  This has been especially true in the brief period since he returned from injury.

On the good side his defensive movement appears to be more sure than it was last season.  He still gambles but his stretches result in better coverage than they used to.  His defensive court sense appears better.  And he hasn't let poor shooting nights take away his hustle.

Until we see another month or so from him it's hard to say much more about Rudy's game than that.  The grade won't be as harsh as it otherwise might have been because of the injury and because it's hard to establish a firm baseline for a second year player.  This isn't the Rudy of last season but we don't know yet whether last season's Rudy was the Rudy that's going to show up every year.

Grade:  C- 

Juwan Howard  20.0 mpg, 5.5 ppg, 56.2% fg, 4.0 rpg

At the beginning of the year some folks were openly wondering what the heck this guy was doing on our team.  Maybe Howard himself was.  He's a long-toothed vet but he's also seen major playing time and has been known as a scorer.  Neither playing time nor shots were available.  Without huge defensive chops or massive energy contributions he seemed out of place in his 4-minute outings.  Then the entire front line got nuked and Howard starting drawing significant minutes.  And as Betty Childs discovered about Louis Skolnick in Revenge of the Nerds, once you got to know him he wasn't half bad.

Even with the shortcomings of age, fatigue (playing him 30+ minutes a night doesn't seem fair), and an unfamiliar situation Howard has given the Blazers some decent jump shooting (56.2% on over the top shots?!?), a little rebounding, and most importantly of all a veteran body thrown against superior centers.  Howard's mark isn't how many boards he gets, it's how many his man fails to get.  It hasn't worked every night (cough, SHAQ, cough) but opponents haven't found the Blazers to be pushovers up front most evenings.  That in itself is amazing.  Plus you never see an on-court expression outside of the occasional smile.  No matter what the rotation it's all business--Juwan being Juwan.  Scoring 16 or 6, attempting 12 shots or 3, the game is the same.  It's a decent lesson, and an added bonus, for this team.

I'm not sure how many games Juwan has flat-out made the difference in but without him the Blazers would have had a harder time in all of their post-Oden games.  Even saying that much is more than we expected.  When you pick something up at the Dollar Store and it finds a way into daily use without breaking you should be glad and not ask too many questions.

Grade:  A

Jerryd Bayless  18.1 mpg, 8.6 ppg, 39.3% fg, 30.2% 3pt, 3.9 fta, 79.3% ft, 2.3 apg, 2.16 ast/t.o. ratio

Jerryd Bayless has shown tangible progress so far this year:  better shooting percentages overall and from range, more minutes, double the points, better assist-to-turnover ratio, twice the fouls drawn.  He's doing just what you want for a second-year guy.  The fact that he's also made a game-changing impact in a couple of contests and co-chaired a few other successful outings is a bonus.  Of particular interest:  five games of 5 or more assists in the last three weeks.  Also of interest (but we already knew it):  he can finish at the cup as well as anyone in the league and he jumps out of the gym as well.  The fact that the excitement now blends in with his broader contributions on many nights is the most exciting thing of all.  Finding Jerryd's impact on the stat sheet and in the "W" and not just on the highlight reel is a significant step.

The down side?  First, he's still inconsistent, especially with the shot.  That's not unexpected for a second-year guy coming into his own.  Second, he tends to drift when he's not the focus of a play.  This is also expected.  The poor overall shooting percentages are probably the most serious flaw, but how are you going to complain when they went up 28 points overall and 43 points from the arc from last season?  Remember what I said about second-year players and mid-year grades above.

Grade:  A 

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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What mid-season grade would you give Steve Blake?
A
15 votes
B
218 votes
C
642 votes
D
302 votes
F
70 votes
Incomplete
25 votes
Detention for you, young man!
31 votes

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Blake a C-? Dude has failed this year. His defense is more porous than ever and he only finds the bucket in streaks. An aggressive offensive play from Blake raises eyebrows, and we say, “hey, wow, nice move Blake!” That’s no way to play ball. He’s been blown over by picks like no PG I’ve ever watched in my 20+ years of active NBA watching. I love his heart, but he’s got no business playing more than a handful of occasional mop-up minutes on this team.

Obviously, then, I’m a big fan of Bayless and everything he brings. But the straight A he’s been given surprises even me! He has stubbornly continued to go to the rack and gets swatted in situations where he needs to make better decisions, still over-dribbles a bit. But hey, I guess I shouldn’t complain about his A here. I’d love to see Bayless and Miller splitting time at about 28 mpg at PG for the Blazers, Blake on the bench only as insurance.

Juwan, Rudy, Joel: right on, right on, I believe.

by travis13 on Jan 20, 2010 12:44 AM PST reply actions  

I'm no fan of Blake's game

but I disagree. I think C- sounds about right for him. He’s below average, but the effort and work boost the grade. He’s also not that bad on defense especially considering the odd matchups we’ve had to use.

You won.
by Roybot on Nov 11, 2009 1:41 AM PST

by Magnum on Jan 20, 2010 1:50 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

i agree except the part about defense

he may try but he’s too slow and too small and is routinely torched

c / c- is about right

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Jan 20, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

There's no way

that a guy with a 2.6 AST/TO ratio and a 40% 3 point average gets a failing grade, unless he’s Chris Paul or something.

If you expected Blake to be an all-star, you might fail him, but we would all fail you for crazy expectations.

#10 #25 #52 #88 -- #5 is back!

by jscot on Jan 20, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

agree

even if you throw out the stats. (good or bad) He has more value to this team than just the up front stuff that makes the headlines. His tough character, veteran stability, and acceptance of his role, account for a lot (in my book). Grading on the curve, Blake is a C or above. (I gave him a “B”) He has held his own in this league and has been a model role player along with Howard.
   Most figure him out of the picture, when the Blazers reach the next level. But that “next level” has a ways to go, and still, Blake continues to do his part. (IMO) the guy has played most of his career out of position (i think of him as more of a 2 guard). He has played point, because he has been asked to and his fit in Nate’s (present but possibly past )system cannot be overstated.

by WyEast on Jan 20, 2010 10:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Blake

No, I never expected him to be an all star. Of course not. But his defense is the worst of any player on this team, worse than any other guy I’ve watched start at PG in the league this year. He’s just too small and too slow. He puts so much pressure on other guys and the team’s defense as a unit that having him out there is a liability in many situations.

That said, his effort is solid. I like him. I think Nate should receive the low grade for his handling of the PG position this season. Maybe I’ll revise my grade for Blake: D+

by travis13 on Jan 20, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

It is interesting perspective on Blake's defense

From all appearances the professional coaching staff disagrees with it. I see Blake moving his feet well and playing smart low-risk defense myself.

"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."

by lee3022 on Jan 20, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I concur.

"I don't always read blogs regarding the Trail Blazers
...but when I do... I read Blazers Edge."

- resurrect_ha28

by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jan 20, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

He’s not a stopper. Low-risk defense describes it well, and he plays it well. He’ll never be the guy that people want to shut someone down, but he is pretty solid defensively.

#10 #25 #52 #88 -- #5 is back!

by jscot on Jan 20, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Blake's D

His pick-and-roll D is very, very bad. On the ball, he gets by against slower guards only.

He DOES work hard. I have a lot of respect for him, but with Miller and Bayless on this team, Blake shouldn’t be playing many minutes unless Martell or Rudy can’t go. (Needing a shooter.)

From what I could gather, reading between the lines when Nate couldn’t make that road trip after his injury, Dean wasn’t comfortable with the PG rotation, but couldn’t make changes. He even said it was out of his hands. It’s well believed by many national writers (Kelly Dwyer has been really vocal) that Nate is fixed to Blake because he sees the situation not unlike when Payton arrived in Seattle and Nate lost his starting job. Nate loves Blake. I like Blake. I like Blake playing 7 minutes per game.

by travis13 on Jan 20, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Lately

I should point out that over Blake’s last couple of games, his pick and roll D has improved a bit. Just a bit. Early in the season I was embarrassed for him. Watch for Blake to be left behind BOTH offensive players in the pick and roll. Just unacceptable, and far too frequent.

by travis13 on Jan 20, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Kelly Dwyer is from Chicago and has to write an opinion every day.

Those two facts mean the following:

1) He really doesn’t know anything about Portland or Seattle teams other than what he might hear (and we all know – or should know – that you believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see).

2) Having to put out an opinion every day is never conducive to accuracy. And as it is only opinion, Dwyer doesn’t have to worry about it.

I have nothing against Dwyer. He’s a good writer. But I believe his only qualification as a basketball “expert” is that he watches a lot of games. He certainly can’t have the time to watch every game and I’d be curious to know just how many times he’s seen Portland this season. To consider Dwyer as an expert source on evaluating Steve Blake’s play is similar to relying on my ability to critique the flying skills of Air Force pilots and Naval and Marine aviators conducting sorties in Afghanistan. After all, I have a large number of books on flying and military history, have a son who is scheduled to become a Marine aviator, know several former or current miltary aviators and have even flown a plane on a couple of occasions. Oh, and I watch the Military Channel. Hell, I have better qualifications than Dwyer does.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Jan 21, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Dwyer

I find him to be pretty acurate over all. His recaps on the BTB are pretty dead on, which tells me he watches most if not all of the games he talks about, and often if he didn’t get to see it, he says so right off. I don’t know what his basketball skills are like, but he seems pretty bright and can tell good from bad.

Blake is a back up in this league, the problem with portland is that they have a better back up in Bayless. Blake should be used in a trade before the deadline.

by usmcr3049 on Jan 21, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

You can't read either defense or between the lines

Dean played Blake FAR MORE than Nate was playing him. It wasn’t even close.

Nate played Steve about 25 minutes (don’t remember the exact amount) in the Houston game before the trip. Dean played him 40 mpg on the trip.

Steve’s p’n’r defense is pretty straightforward — he usually goes under the pick. Sometimes we switch, and he tries to deny/prevent until he can switch back, with reasonably good success, sometimes he goes under and cuts off the lane so his man can’t drive. The result is sometimes some open looks from outside, but his man doesn’t get a free lane to the hoop as frequently as Jerryd’s does. If Steve gets beat to the hoop, it is usually because he simply got beat by someone a lot quicker, not because he defended the p’n’r poorly.

You’ll always give up something on the p’n’r, if the offensive team runs it well.

#10 #25 #52 #88 -- #5 is back!

by jscot on Jan 21, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I would have been harsher on Bayless

Big improvement, but he’s a lottery pick in his 2nd year. We should expect some results. I give him a B. I also think you were too harsh on Rudy, who’s been injured. C+ for Rudy.

#52

by jksnake99 on Jan 20, 2010 12:44 AM PST reply actions  

he's a lottery pick who got virtually no playing time last year

He’s also been misused. We’ve tried to force him to be Steve Blake instead of the kind of player he is. I think we’ve gotten pretty good results considering those things.

You won.
by Roybot on Nov 11, 2009 1:41 AM PST

by Magnum on Jan 20, 2010 1:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree with Jake

As much as folks hate on Blake for dribbling under the basket and not doing anything down there, I’d take a few of those from Bayless instead of some of those half-butted right handed layups that seem to miss everything but the opponent’s hands. I think he’s looking for the refs to bail him out and sometimes the defenders are to far away to draw contact and Bayless still throws up a prayer layup. I want to see less of that.

by tominhawaii on Jan 20, 2010 4:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he’s looking for the refs to bail him out

i fear this becoming Bayless’s go-to move…..

by DrivetheLane on Jan 20, 2010 8:11 AM PST up reply actions  

so does he

#7, #10, #25, #52, #88

by The Arkitect on Jan 20, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I could see us doing a full JD

just dedicated to a Blazers drinking game. Doesn’t have to be alcohol of course.

- Drink if Nate changes his expression
- Two drinks if he yells at the ref
- Three for a T
- Chug if he gets ejected

by Timmay! on Jan 20, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

a drinking game is no fun if you never have to drink.

#52

by Royster on Jan 20, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

Then the entire arena froze as a primal, bloodthirsty shriek echoed through the seats and rafters. Beer vendors dropped their glasses, fans cowered, whistles fell out of refs' mouths, Coach Nate fell backwards into his seat, Monty Williams grew hair, watched it turn grey, and then sobbed as it fell out again all in an instant, and the Suns' blue and orange road uniforms suddenly included a conspicuous amount of yellow. B-Rex had arrived. And he was angry.

by musicdaniel on Jan 20, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions  

He's learning that from Roy

All he needs now is an annoying yell to go with it.

by superfly05 on Jan 20, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I also agree with Jake and you

except I would grade on the curve and therefore give him a C+ or possibly an incomplete. IMO, he could not be considered above average compared to the rest of the team. He has improved but jumping from incomplete to an “A” in one season hasn’t happened yet. This guy still has a long way to go.

by WyEast on Jan 20, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

how has he been misused?

Nate gives him every opportunity to succeed, by basically putting him out there and telling him to attack the basket and create or score as he knows how. Nate has said as much. He hasn’t been asked to play point guard too much, as either Blake or Miller has been out there most of the time with him. With the distribution duties taken care of, Bayless can freelance, which to my mind plays to his strengths.

by atomiccafe on Jan 20, 2010 6:44 AM PST up reply actions  

don't get caught up in "roles"

a “freelancing” Bayless would be equally likely to score an assist, J or layup. A “freelancing” point guard has to be ready to take what the defense gives – that is the basic definition of a point guard – someone that makes decisions with the ball in his hands. Deciding to score doesn’t make one less of a point guard.

by blacknoiseNW on Jan 20, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

how would you say he's been misused then?

I think he’s basically been put in a position to succeed. He brings the ball up, can attack the defense, but if it’s not there, he can drop it off to either Blake or Miller. Then those guys initiate “Plan B.” This gives him the freedom to attack from the perimeter without the responsibilities of initiating the offense and distributing to get other guys involved outside the context of the drive and dish, where he excels. You’re right, that whether you call him a “point guard” or not is just silly semantics, but that’s not really what I was trying to say in the first place. I’m trying to say I don’t think he’s been misused. How do you think the coaching staff’s use of Jerryd has hurt his production?

by atomiccafe on Jan 20, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Bayless hasn't seen a lot of burn as the only point guard in the game

in that sense, Bayless’ usage isn’t unique. We’ve seen too many lineups with multiple point guards, whether it is Bayless/Miller, Bayless/Blake, or Blake/Miller.

by blacknoiseNW on Jan 20, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

When you think about how arbitrary the positions are in basketball

it’s funny that we all try to pidgeon-hole players, and that it’s a gimmick to run a “three point guard” lineup. They’re just basketball players of different sizes with different levels of talent and skill in various areas.

When I play city league, we don’t ever discuss who is going to be the power forward and who is going to be the shooting guard. Granted, it’s not the NBA, but it’s easy to get carried away with ideas of what a traditional lineup consists of in terms of which five players are on the court.

by superfly05 on Jan 20, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

My expectations for Jerryd were a lot lower after last year

so I think I would have gone A-/B+ for this year. He’s been great at times, bad at others, but his lows are a lot higher than they were last year, and his defense has really improved, although part of that has to do with the simple fact that he’s learned to play somewhere outside of the jersey of the man he’s defending and not picking up needless fouls. Some of his stats have really taken a nose dive (check out TS%, but he’s gotten to a point where he’s at the very least showing he’s worth his draft spot, which is nothing to sniff at.

As to Rudy, it seems a little harsh, but I’m willing to keep him bumped down simply based on the fact that if these were lingering issues from last season, it’s partially on him to get it sorted out before the season rather than try and foolsihly play through them. Between him and Nic dealing with lingering injuries that have required surgery early in the season, I’m really wondering if all this training camp “competition for spots” did far more harm than good by making these guys feel like they had to earn their spots before dealing with their injuries when the games counted.

#52

by Royster on Jan 20, 2010 7:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I tend to agree.

Jerryd may be playing above expectations (at least mine), but looking at his contributions and what he’s accomplished, I say a solid B sounds right.

Blake a C and Rudy maybe a C+, but possibly an incomplete due to the missed time.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Jan 20, 2010 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I would also give Juwan an A+

he went from being a possible practice player/15th man on IR to starting center.. ya again i repeat CENTER
and is holding his own. his numbers have been amazing (and i thought at the beginning of the year he was the worst rotation player in the league, but he really really turned it on)

Just a minor setback for a major comeback.
#52
Now it's YOUR time.
#7

by GreatOden'sRaven on Jan 20, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

The point guard position has drawn the most flak this season

Not to rehash here. In the end if we win we give credit to Roy or LA or Martell and if we lose we blame a PG (which one depending on your horse).

Collectively they have produced fair results. A big part of the heart comes from Steve Blake. An big part of the future may come from Jerryd Bayless. A big part of scoring comes from Andre. Each brings baggage so my inclination is collectively grade them a C+ with the expectation that the grade will get better by the end of the year.

"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."

by lee3022 on Jan 20, 2010 1:38 AM PST reply actions  

This sounds like a pretty decent summary.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Jan 20, 2010 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

No too much issue with your grades

Bayless has shown great improvement but I’d give him a B.

I might bump Blake up to a C or maybe a C+. The problem is that his skill set is duplicated by other players. Even though Miller’s outside shot isn’t as good (% wise it’s not that bad, it just looks ugly), Miller brings a skill set that’s sorely lacking on this team. I credit Blake for playing hard and trying to do what the coach asks of him. He has come back to Earth at bit this year. He makes a reasonable backup but can look lost out there. He’s been misused at the expense of a better player and an up and coming youngster by McMillan (and his sometimes bewildering substitution patterns). But that’s not Blake’s fault.

I would bump Rudy up to a C. He’s had that back problem and the bad luck to be behind Roy on the depth chart. Minutes are the key to consistency. Where does he play? He’s not really a point guard and that position’s covered anyway. He’s not really a small forward. If you play him at the expense of Webster, Martell might start having his own consistency issues again. With McMillan’s infamous hook (and too many players to choose from), how can that help either one with their confidence? You could move Roy to SF and have him play SG but with Webster and Batum already at that position, it’s just a waste of talent. I would NOT play Rudy at the expense of Batum. Although Rudy’s a crowd favorite and a good player, methinks KP would be doing a favor by trading him.

The Blazers need to find a way to sign Howard for another year. Where would they be without him upfront this year? Along with Miller, Howard is a great example of ‘how it’s done’ for the young guys.

by rockman on Jan 20, 2010 2:49 AM PST reply actions  

Of course, we don't know what deals will be done between now and next year

But who would you drop for Howard? The roster is full, and we get a first round pick, and we might bring Freeland over from Europe, and we have an MLE to use.

There’s been a lot of talk about getting a PF/C to provide toughness. If you think Pendergraph is good for that role, then we’re fine, but if not we need to get someone else.

So if we keep Juwan next year, who do you drop? Mills? It’s a long shot, but the potential is there for him to be something special.

#10 #25 #52 #88 -- #5 is back!

by jscot on Jan 20, 2010 4:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Portland may not have to worry about it.

Freeland is still young (21 or 22 I think) and hasn’t been over yet for summer league. I’m thinking Claver spends at least one more year in Europe. KP can look to trade out of the draft or select another “stash” guy.

Steve Blake, Travis Outlaw and possibly Dante Cunningham could all be FA’s, along with Howard. Joel could opt out (though I doubt that).

Still, resigning Juwan next summer has to be pretty much near the bottom of KP’s to do list.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Jan 20, 2010 8:39 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree

It may be a non-issue. But you can’t say “Juwan should be back” without recognizing the currently-crowded roster.

#10 #25 #52 #88 -- #5 is back!

by jscot on Jan 20, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

at some point several players are going to have to be trimmed

its just a matter of when

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Jan 20, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree.

I believe Portland needs to institute a no facial hair – short hair only policy with all of it’s players.

A dress code is not enough.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Jan 20, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

LOL

"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."

by lee3022 on Jan 20, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

i like Juwan

But you can’t grade him without recognizing that he has the worst PER out of all rotation players, the worst on court-off court on the Blazers and is producing below replacement value according to Pelton’s analysis. I know statistics don’t tell the whole story, but when all the stats point to a player being the worst player on the team, and being replaceable by players off the scrap heap, you have to tell a pretty persuasive story to give the guy an “A.”

by atomiccafe on Jan 20, 2010 5:21 AM PST reply actions  

Howard is below replacement level

He’s like the fifth or sixth choice to play center and he’s playing like a third choice. Expecting him to play as well as a backup is beyond his abilities.

by tominhawaii on Jan 20, 2010 5:48 AM PST up reply actions  

replacement value isn't what comes off the bench

it’s what you can get for basically nothing on the open market. That means Juwan is giving us less than a player who might be available off waivers or from the D-League. Now, he’s not all that far below replacement value, so he’s not hurting us that much in comparison to those guys, but that is damning with faint praise. Given Juwan’s statistical production and the fact that he is a clear liability defensively and on the glass, we have nothing to lose by giving Pendergraph more run.

by atomiccafe on Jan 20, 2010 6:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I dunno

Replacement level is really an estimate. The real-life version of replacement level would have to be Anthony Tolliver or Shavlik, and I don’t think they really shined here. I’d certainly rather have Pendergraph playing than Juwan, but I think there might be an overestimate by Hollinger/KP2 of just what we could expect from a D-league level replacement.

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by Royster on Jan 20, 2010 7:22 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

you're right

KP2 clearly says in the link you are limited in who you can acquire in the middle of the season because players go overseas, or get buried at the end of some team’s bench where they’re hard to acquire. The point of the statistic is just that Juwan isn’t really giving us anything that we couldn’t replace relatively easily (with Pendergraph, I suppose). However you slice it isn’t an “A” quite the stretch?

by atomiccafe on Jan 20, 2010 7:26 AM PST up reply actions  

This could be one of those instances that differentiate ...

… real NBA coaching from analyst number crunching.

Not to devalue Kevin Pelton or John Hollinger, as they do really interesting work and provide some neat tools for both fans and NBA organizations to use. But I’m betting they will be the first to admit that they only capture a portion of what constitutes evaluation of a player’s value and level of contribution.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Jan 20, 2010 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

agreed

the numbers only tell part of the story (which is why the NBA is so fascinating). But I think you have to acknowledge the numbers and move on by saying “in spite of what the numbers say Juwan has offered x, y and z and has far exceeded expectations, so he merits an A.”

by atomiccafe on Jan 20, 2010 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

At a guess ...

… I’d say that Juwon has provided the following:

1) leadership on the court – I’m betting he does a fair amount of talking and directing out there. Jeff may be the more atheletic player with more upside, but he’s still a rookie learning the ropes.

2) A consistent outlet shooter – most of the shots I’ve seen him take are those 16 – 20 footers out front. 53% is pretty good for jumpshooting. When options A and B aren’t there, Howard has been a reliable fallback.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Jan 20, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd have to agree.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Jan 20, 2010 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Objections

How do these reviews follow yesterday’s? Your standards seem completely subjective here, when yesterday they were more objective. Pick one. I’m okay with c- on Steve, and an A for Howard, while arguable, has a good explanation in your summary. Joel’s piece just makes me sad. I guess my only real complaint is an A for Bayless! I’m in his camp but inconsistent doesn’t earn that grade. I didn’t know he was a Bedger but you’re clearly protecting his feelings. The improvement is nice, bump him from last year’s D to a C+.

by jiminut on Jan 20, 2010 5:24 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

He's grading against expectations

At the start of the year Bayless was buried on the bench and wasn’t expected to have to give more than a half-dozen inconsistent minutes a game. Instead he’s pulled as through a couple of Royless games. Viewed in that light I think he’s done pretty well. Not sure I’d give him and A, but a solid B seems fair. He’s exceeded expectations by quite a bit.

by Charon on Jan 20, 2010 6:12 AM PST up reply actions  

More than just a couple games

his overall and percentage production are both up and he’s making a difference on the court. For a second-year guy in his first playing time that’s great. If he did this same thing next year his grade would lower, but you have to consider the situation.

—Dave

by Dave on Jan 20, 2010 7:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Still seems high based on some of your pre-game comments

At least couple or few times recently you’ve said “this is the time for Jarryd to step up” (I’m paraphrasing) and he hasn’t stepped up. His effort is great, and he’s filling a role by initiating plays, it’s just that the execution is less than stellar. I thought his early season progress was great, but he’s fallen short on several opportunities since he got Nate’s confidence (notwithstanding the 31 points). Good, not great.

by jiminut on Jan 20, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

When the outside shot is falling he is an A+

The rest of the time a solid B compared to last year.

by Jacksonville on Jan 20, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

The standards are different

for bench players and guys you don’t normally know what you’ll get out of. Grading on value is legit. Also the expectations are different for a Jerryd Bayless than a Brandon Roy. Jerryd’s “A” game would be a “D” for Brandon because Roy’s bar is set higher. Compared to last year’s Bayless, Jerryd is playing wonderfully. Compared to the Blake we’ve seen, Steve is playing in mediocre fashion, maybe less if you consider the bad shooting streak he went through a few weeks ago.

—Dave

by Dave on Jan 20, 2010 7:19 AM PST up reply actions  

For Steve Blake.

I grade him high when we use him as a situational 3pt threat, and not so high as a point guard.

Though when we have Oden/Roy/LMA all at top health, Steve is still the best fit with the 3pt range.

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by staylost on Jan 20, 2010 7:02 AM PST reply actions  

And I give Bayless a B-.

Guy is super streaky right now.

In Bayless I trust.
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by staylost on Jan 20, 2010 7:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Gotta wonder about anyone who rated Blake at either end of your scale.

He’s most certainly not earned an “A”, but to give him an “F” is way out there too. A “C” or a “D” I can fathom, not so much a “B.”

by goobie1 on Jan 20, 2010 9:09 AM PST reply actions  

I gave him a C

He’s cutting it, in a very difficult situation. – Elgin

OK...so girls in movies where guys wear hockey masks have a better survival rate than the average Blazer player. - Dave

by 22baylor on Jan 20, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

An A for Jerryd Bayless??!

Jeesh. There goes the credibility for these reviews.

He’s been given plenty of opportunity to step up this year but he has only in those few games where his most undependable shot happened to be falling. And when his shot isn’t on, his drives become far less effective. So what then?

Bayless has poor form on his shot release thus I’m thinking its unlikely we can ever depend on him to shoot consistently. He still hasn’t shown me that he will ever be a good play making PG and he is too short (along with his shooting woes) to be consistently effective at the 2. Since we already have two pretty good off guards I think its time for KP to see what he can get for Bayless; but I suspect its not nearly as much as many here seems to be thinking.

If this Blazer team doesn't light your fire, then your wood is wet!

by TwoDeep on Jan 20, 2010 9:35 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

eh 9 ppg in 18 mins with a 2/1 assist/TO ratio isn't terrible

for a second year player

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Jan 20, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

As we've been reading so often here,

defenses have figured Bayless out.

Averaging 21.6 minutes In the last 5 games, for this stretch Jerryd’s shooting percentage is a paltry 32% with his 3 point percentage coming in at a not so lofty 28%.

Many are badly trashing Blake although his 3 point percentage for the season I believe is at 41%. Nothing says that fans have to be fair but it would be nice to see a small sampling of it. I believe I comment like this as much to support Blake against the heavy fire he is under as I do to express my opinion that I don’t think Bayless is the answer.

If this Blazer team doesn't light your fire, then your wood is wet!

by TwoDeep on Jan 20, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Miller>Blake>Bayless

Simple, really.

Dave’s grades for them?

Miller got a C, Blake a C- and Bayless an … A??

WHAAAAA???

by LaoTzu on Jan 20, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't mean to attack a fan favorite (and one of my favorites)

but does Przy really deserve an A-?. I mean when he was playing he did not look like he did last year. I give him a B- but mostly because he raised the bar for himself last year. If last year hadn’t of happened then maybe a A- is the right grade.

by Escrote on Jan 20, 2010 9:38 AM PST reply actions  

i agree

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Jan 20, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I think that Joel was better this year when he started. However, I think that ever since his

wrist injury last year his ball handling skills have gotten worse. It was almost necessary to HAND him the ball in order for him to “catch” it. Also I don’t recall how his shooting was last year but this year he was not at ALL an offensive threat. That’s one of the reasons I think Juwann, though nowhere near the defensive blocker..has made a significant contribution. He can shoot the ball.

by Natsthecat on Jan 20, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

So..I would not give Joel an A. Especially when you consider how he played off the bench.

Whenever Oden went out there was a noticable difference on the court. Like I said previously..Joel improved as a starter. I’d give him a B. He definitely is a great team mate and didn’t bitch at all about ANYTHING.

by Natsthecat on Jan 20, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Andre Miller deserves an A+

The Leeroy Rule: being insistent >>>> being correct

by leeroyjenkins on Jan 20, 2010 10:19 AM PST reply actions  

C-/D+ for Blake is accurate, though he's been showing signs lately of improving

He’s in there to be a 3 pt threat, so he’s gotta make them. And quit turning the ball over so much. Unfortunately no amount of effort will magically make him quicker on D against other NBA PG’s.

by WakeUpOden on Jan 20, 2010 10:33 AM PST reply actions  

I think all of the players deserve a ....

…. hug.

Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

by timg56 on Jan 20, 2010 10:52 AM PST reply actions  

Also, Joel hasn't seen any real decline in his numbers in the last 6 or 7 years

barring the first 30 games he played this season. However, every player on this team got off to a slow start, didn’t they?

by RenoBlazerFan on Jan 20, 2010 12:29 PM PST reply actions  

HOW CAN YOU GIVE BAYLESS AN A a AND MILLER A c???

Off one night???

Fernandez never was right. He just returned from major back surgery.
INCOMPLETE

by LaoTzu on Jan 20, 2010 5:20 PM PST reply actions  

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