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Media Row Report: Blazers 94, Cavaliers 106

Sunday night in Portland the home crowd was treated to the annual LeBronathon.  The man of the hour did not disappoint, dumping in 41 points, 10 rebounds and 8 assists in a 106-94 Cavaliers defeat of the Blazers.

LeBron James, at this point in his career and life, renders the exercise of a traditional game recap pointless.  To co-opt an old Nike slogan, his better is absolutely, positvely better than your better.  The most perfect physical specimen to ever play the game of basketball, a focused and motivated James is without peer.  

He utterly dominated the first quarter of this game, continued to dominated the second quarter, got a little bit bored in the third quarter and then dropped the hammer in the fourth quarter. While the Blazers valiantly fought back from a 17 point second half deficit to briefly tie the game, James's shadow hung over that run.  These Blazers were simply not beating James. 

That James is capable of producing the statistics he does while drifting for minutes at a time feels like a mirage. Whereas watching Michael Jordan in person was like a great opera -- art -- James is more like a magic show. His speed makes himself and his opponents disappear when you blink; his power threatens like an oversized sword sawing a woman in half; his courtsense is the trick where he knows which card you're holding before you even look at it; his aura all swagger, all showman, every step choreographed and precise. 

James is the single must-see attraction in the NBA. Indeed, he's can't-miss, thanks to the insane number of cameras set up to capture his every move. But as high as the collective anticipation is for James every year he delivers beyond expectations time and again. Tonight, he was bigger, faster, and stronger than every before.  And I write those words every time he comes here.

 His first quarter was just silly: 8 for 8 from the field for 20 points. If there was a singular skill that stood out during those 12 minutes it was his ability to finish at the rim.  James redefines what "finishing at the rim" means. For James, the window of opportunity to gracefully drop in a layup or dunk seems three or four times longer than the average All Star's. He rises higher, more powerfully and with more control, effortlessly flanking the rim from side to side as he waits for the most opportune moment to release the ball.  Defenders go up and come down and James hovers or motors sideways or rises higher, before he inevitably finishes without a care in the world and with either hand.

To watch James on the fast break is even more preposterous.  He sees planes that no one else does, as if he is the only person wearing 3 D goggles and the only person moving in fast forward.  

And yet James the player could not have been more different than James the person I saw tonight . Where everything between tip and horn is so natural, everything else is so forced, so scripted.  James is now approaching nearly 10 years of superstardom yet his interactions with the media trail far behind the likes of Kobe Bryant (or Brandon Roy) when it comes to comfort, depth and feel.  

After the game, James made an off-color comment to a team attendant, stuttered through basic questions searching for words that he apparently doesn't have in his arsenal, addressed the media horde wearing only a towel (compared to Bryant who wore a full suit and tie to take questions on Friday night) and resorted to cliches that seemed to bore even himself.

Why?  Is he simply tired of the same routine?  Does he have nothing to gain from it?  Is he convinced that he understands the game in ways the average writer can't? Is he simply unable to convey thoughts that matter? I don't know.

Nearly two hours before the game I caught a glimpse of a more genuine James, and it wasn't pretty. James wore headphones as he warmed up, locked in a cocoon of his own creation, heaving shot after shot.  At the time, the Rose Garden was mostly empty and courtside security was not yet in place.  Four teenage boys -- mostly decked in Blazers gear-- gawked as James went through his paces, ESPN cameras tracking his every move.  As he worked towards the right corner, his admirers were within reach of a man whom they probably consider a superhero.

James mechanically drained his three pointers and then paused briefly as a ballboy went to retrieve a rare miss. Sensing an opportunity, one of the group reached out to James and patted him on the butt, not unlike teammates do countless times during every NBA game.  Perhaps with a little more cupping action than usual but, nevertheless, an innocent gesture. The move bordered on the bizarre because it was clear the two had no prior relationship.

James wheeled, removing both his headphones instantly, clearly flummoxed that a stranger had grasped his buttocks.  Upon seeing the culprit, who eyed the player with what can only be described as awe, James looked incredulous and indignant. With no other recourse available, James stopped his shooting routine, striding defiantly towards a group of his teammates that were standing near half court.  A string of profanities flew from his mouth as he relayed what had just happened to his teammates, who hadn't seen it.  To a man, they were equally shocked to hear of the occurrence.  James continued his chest-puffing diatribe, occasionally looking back at the group of teenagers.  The young men were pretending to gaze out in a different direction, pretending to be invisible.  While James's teammates assured him that the kid surely didn't mean any harm and that he was probably just wishing the player well, James continued to shake his head, failing to comprehend that someone he didn't know, someone outside his circle, someone so clearly unimportant, would have the gall to touch him. Him.  

Eventually, the kids slunk away. James finally popped his headphones back in and continued his warm-up routine.  He either didn't notice -- or pretended not to notice -- two young writers laughing hysterically nearby.

Such is life for LeBron James in 2010.  

Untouchable on the court, in more ways than one.

Random Game Notes

  • Here's a picture of the shoes that LeBron was wearing during the pregame.  As you surely heard on the television broadcast or noticed in the arena, he switched to two different color shoes during the game.  Of course he did. In the locker room afterwards he told reporters it was the first time he had done that.
  • According to ShamSports.com, by playing in his 10th game of the season tonight, Jeff Pendergraph triggered a condition in his contract that guarantees his salary for next year.
  • On nights like tonight, when LaMarcus Aldridge is hitting everything he throws up (8 for 11 for 18 points), you'd love to see him get 25 shots.  Instead the Blazers saw Martell Webster, Juwan Howard and Jerryd Bayless combine to shoot 8 for 24 (2 of 11 from deep).  If that doesn't frustrate Aldridge, it really should.
  • Steve Blake did not look particularly healthy in the 7 minutes he played in his first game back from pneumonia.  Loved the fact that Blake gave it a go; loved the fact Nate McMillan parked him back on the bench when it was clear he couldn't keep up with the game's pace.  
  • Brandon Roy again raised his game against marquee competition, especially in the second half.  As joyous as he was on Friday night after beating Bryant and the Lakers, he was equally disappointed tonight.  
  • The kiss heard round the world: Shaquille O'Neal was fouled during an alley oop attempt and went stumbling into the front row baseline seats where he eventually landed on Daniel Baldwin, who is related to someone that is famous.  Baldwin apparently has adopted Portland as his new home and was wearing a Blazers jersey over a Nike Turtleneck.  The two men smooched, much to the delight of the nearby cameras.    Curious, I had to see which jersey Baldwin was wearing.  Turns out it was Juwan Howard's.  Of course it was.
  • When the two men kissed, it was a major twitter moment.  Combined the two men have 2,750,820 followers. Baldwin accounts for 510 of those. 
  • At the back of the pack for LeBron James' post-game comments I had a front row seat for a towel-clad Zydrunas Ilgauskas merrily lip-synching to "Rhinestone Cowboy."  That image is burned into my retinas for life.
  • Paul Allen was enjoying the game from his courtside seat tonight. He was looking great.  Dwight Jaynes showed everyone how it's done, tracking down Allen after the game for the latest on his treatment.

Nate McMillan's Post-Game Comments

What was the difference down the stretch after you tied the game?

It comes down to making plays. I think they had about 3 offensive rebounds, we had some stops. I think there was a stop where they had 1 or 2 offensive boards in a row. And some breakdowns where we started to double-team LeBron when we could get to him. Now it's just if they miss some shots. Thought the kid Williams hit a big 3 so you're trying to force some things to happen, when you force the miss you've got to get the board and of course you've got to go down to score.

Your team played better in the second half than in the first

I thought they came out as the aggressors. LeBron was just unbelievable. You normally don't make adjustments in the first quarter. His 20 points came so fast. I think he had about 3 possessions where we didn't get in front of him and he was at the rim and then he hit some 3s and before you know it he had 20 points. We wanted to double-team but we couldn't get close to him to do that. I thought we came out the second half and played the way we played. Where we started to scrap. We got our traps going. We were able to get in transition, get some movement and get back in the game.

You doubled LeBron more in the second half?

Yeah we could get to him in the second half.  I thought that first quarter he pretty much just was in an attack mode. Got to the basket. He had 2 or 3 threes at that time. Some of them were off the ball. They weren't running isolation plays for him in that first quarter he was just making shots. One thing we could have done better is get help over to him when he was penetrating.

Were you happy with the team's fight back despite the loss?

Well we didn't play to stay close. I thought the second half we had a better half. The first half I thought they came out like a team that had dropped one and had respect for what we had done. They came in here ready to play and jumped on us right away. We didn't give in the second half and got ourselves back in the ballgame with an opportunity to win it. And then it comes down to making some plays. I thought Varejao was huge coming in off the bench. Their bench was really good with Williams and Varejao getting offensive boards and knocking down shots.

LaMarcus's season?

We know that he now is in a posit ion where he has to be that guy is establishing us in that post. Both he and Brandon are the guys that we were going to start the season playing through. And we're certainly going to play through now. We need him more than ever on the defensive end of the floor. Being without the center. He's a big key to what we want to do. 

Talked to him about not being in the all star game and his role?

Yeah, I've had conversations basically about where we are. It's changed. At the beginning of the year it was something different, what we were looking for from him. When Greg goes out it changes it again. And now when Joel is out he's playing a lot of center for us. Even though some teams are matching up at the 4 he's gotta be the guy that defends the basket. It's changed in a sense for him. So yes there's been conversations with him.

Struggle to find second scorer tonight?

Well, you know, a lot of those guys are getting shots off of Brandon's double teams. When we've been able to make those shots then we had shots at winning the game. I thought Brandon was able to make some shots, when they're committing 2 [players to Brandon], the rest of the guys have to make shots.

A lot of minutes for your starters? Is that getting to be a concern?

That's what was working pretty much. Well, you know, of course there's a concern but these are the guys we have. To give us the best chance to win you try to give them a rest and when you feel that game is close or about to get out of reach you've got to go with the guys that are going to give you a chance. That's forcing us to have to play guys a little longer and if our guys can come in. Tonight Bayless didn't have his eyes. Blake is coming off of pneumonia so our bench wasn't as good as they've been. It was just the situation we're in.

-- Ben Golliver | benjamin.golliver@gmail.com | Twitter

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i really think you misread that whole but incident.

isn’t it possible james simply felt that the touch was inappropriate because it occurred outside the context of competition and team camaraderie (people he is comfortable with). That particular context is what changes that type of action from being a inappropriate one to a legitimate one in a hetero-normative world.

it is certainly possible that he didn’t like it just cause hes a big diva… as u are suggesting.. but being a diva also comes with its own constraints. like being paranoid about fans attacking you and harming you physically.

My guess is lots of things whent into his decision to get upset about it. All three of the factors I mentioned there. It seems hard to me to get in his head and impute the morality tale you did, though.

by mandoman10 on Jan 11, 2010 12:18 AM PST reply actions  

I would be weirded out, too, but nevertheless

It’s disappointing to hear that he couldn’t handle the situation with more grace. He couldn’t even say, “Hey, kid, what was up with that?” He had to go be passive aggressive about it with his teammates and make those kids, who idolized him, feel horrible. And seriously? It’s Lebron James. He is 6’8" 250. I don’t think he was afraid of physical harm.

@Ben: that was a nice piece. Telling details. And while I agree that his game is a thing of beauty, I wish we could be less in awe of him and more focused on figuring out how to beat him. It’s as if that explosive first step he has on us comes even faster because we are all standing around, watching in amazement.

by Chadillac5000 on Jan 11, 2010 1:55 AM PST up reply actions  

that isn’t to say that I’m down on our guys tonight. Like Dave and others said, we needed more hustle on defensive rotations in the first half, but we didn’t give up.

by Chadillac5000 on Jan 11, 2010 2:05 AM PST up reply actions  

LeBron didn't react well with the children

and he deserves to be called out there, but the rest of the discussion of him here seems a little over the top in its connotation.

Is he convinced that he understands the game in ways the average writer can’t?
After the game, James made an off-color comment to a team attendant, stuttered through basic questions searching for words that he apparently doesn’t have in his arsenal, addressed the media horde wearing only a towel (compared to Bryant who wore a full suit and tie to take questions on Friday night) and resorted to cliches that seemed to bore even himself.

So he wore a towel and threw out some cliches, and the connotation is that he’s some uneducated, unpolished diva who can barely put a sentence together (unlike true gentlemen of the game like Brandon Roy and Kobe Bryant). So the guy doesn’t like to explain his philosophy on basketball every night after games. He probably gets more attention than any single athlete in the world right now (except maybe Tiger), and Portland doesn’t have any special place for him as it does for Kobe right now (as much as he may hate to admit it).

When he acts like a dick, like he did pre-game, he deserves be called out, but this seems a little much for the crime of not giving a great interview on some random night in-season.

#52

by Royster on Jan 11, 2010 8:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I think when a stranger gropes your butt

you are allowed to react to that in whatever hostile manner you feel like at the time. You have no obligation to be polite to a random ass-grabber. That’s just weird.

"It all depends on where his growth will come and we think his growth will come within us" -- Kevin Pritchard on Jerryd Bayless

by Jumbo on Jan 11, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

What does Nate mean by “Tonight Bayless didn’t have his eyes.”

Court vision???

by billsfan4life on Jan 11, 2010 12:23 AM PST reply actions  

LeBron had one moment where he shoved his defender as he came up the court

sending him staggering. I thought at the time it was a punk move and beneath him.

Wilt was as dominant a physical specimen as LeBron and much bigger and far stronger. But nobody else I have ever seen compares. Wilt offered to fight Muhammad Ali in his prime and was turned down. Wilt might just have won.

"I could almost fall asleep when he's got the ball," Demopoulos said of Roy. "That's how comfortable I feel with him. He always comes through."

by lee3022 on Jan 11, 2010 12:48 AM PST reply actions  

boxing does have rules...

you gotta hit Ali before you can hurt him.
Wilt woulda fannin’ the air till he was ready to drop.

"Travis went all wang-dang diddly wubba SPROING wow-wow on everybody " Dave's recap, season opener

by Berkeley on Jan 11, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Lebron

There are a lot of things about the guy that make him a wonder. Physically he is more scary than shaq in his prime. But mentally and personality wise the guy is a comparitive dwarf. The pregame sideshow, the biting of fingernails, interactions with media etc are just a few examples of what is holding him back.from acheiving the kind of broad based respect others have enjoyed before their own fall from grace (Jordan. , woods, vick, magwire )

by doomsdaymachine on Jan 11, 2010 1:37 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

How about the dancing?

To me its showboating and disrespectfull to the other players and fans. I don’t really care if they do that before the game but as soon as tip off, the dancing has to stop. I remember the first time I saw it, I was amused but by the 4th quarter I was annoyed. I didn’t watch this game so I don’t know if he and Cavs are doing it on road games as well.

by VinnyB on Jan 11, 2010 3:29 AM PST reply actions  

I didn't see any in the 4th

I hope he doesn’t pull that crap on the road either. Noah tried to get him to stop it, would have loved if he had layed LBJ out on the floor.

by gotissues68 on Jan 11, 2010 6:06 AM PST reply actions  

Lebron is an idiot, always has been & probably always will be

He simply lacks the brainpower of guys like Kobe and MJ. Couple that with ten million sycophants kissing your butt your entire life and you’re probably not going to find a polished human being.

On the other hand, he possesses a combo of brute strength and quickness unlike probably anyone who’s played his positions.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jan 11, 2010 6:36 AM PST reply actions  

1

…i’ll give him one championship

by MPP24 on Jan 11, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

His Shot...

Has gotten much better as well… I would have loved to see him pull up for those 3’s early in his career. Now he is hitting them…

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by Slopedoug on Jan 11, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Give the guy a break, wish he was a Blazer

I think ppl are being a bit hard on the guy – yeah, he probably overreacted, but I don’t think many ppl would like random ppl grabbing their asses. And in terms of short replies to the media… well, as you said, the guys been a star for 1o years, you think he’s bored of answering the same questions endlessly? As well, it’s the NBA, if he did say anything controversial or interesting he’d be criticized (or fined or whatever – the Arenas thing has made everyone paranoid probably, and don’t think Nike doesnt have him on a short leash, esp. b/c of the Woods ordeal).

And in terms of his intelligence, I’ve read in numerous articles from GQ, ESPN etc. where they may criticize him for other things, but they all state he is pretty intelligent, informed, and funny. Shaq even recently said he could be a coach right now, and many have raved at his BBall IQ.

Bottom line is he’s a human off the court – and by many account, though not this one, a pretty decent guy – and a superhuman on it. Enjoy him and don’t look for ways to diminish the man. If he was a Blazer the whole state of Portland would worship the ground his Lebrons walk on

by Gmurray81 on Jan 11, 2010 8:26 AM PST reply actions  

Lebron has had numerous episodes that you can point to and question his judgement

Our opinions aren’t based off one episode but instead a series of episodes that began, for me, when he was accepting gifts in high school. I also don’t think anyone is calling him pure evil, humans rarely are. As far as magazine articles, those are generally edited and glossed. ESPN is is love with Lebron and will probably never print a cross word about him. Lastly I’ll take anything Shaq says with a grain of salt.

And frankly I don’t think you speak for all Portland fans that we would be thrilled if he was in this town. For one I don’t believe he’ll ever win a title and he’d need to win four or five before it will overshadow his ego.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jan 11, 2010 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4350557

Here’s a good one that details some of the troubles Lebron went through in high school. I particularly like how he accuses the high school association commissioner of trying to ruin his dream. I think only someone with a jumo-sized ego would jump to that conclusion, especially when he basically admits he cheated the system.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jan 11, 2010 8:44 AM PST up reply actions  

those cameras on the basket standard

you would think that they are a potential injury hazard to players in that location, and as such, would not be allowed.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jan 11, 2010 8:57 AM PST reply actions  

Roy was wasted in the 4th

In hindsight, giving Roy a breather in the 4th might have allowed us to be competitive down the stretch. Miller should have come in for Roy, not Bayless. Then whoever had it going could have stayed out on the floor when Roy came back.

Of course if nobody is hitting any shots but Roy, we had no chance to win against this top-tier team.

by ralphzillo on Jan 11, 2010 9:06 AM PST reply actions  

Bayless was still the right call, there

but Blake on the court was not. Blake was something like -9, in only 7 minutes played. He wasn’t ready for prime time.

by blacknoiseNW on Jan 11, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

James was definitely king of the court last night

I liked the fashion statement with the shoes. It works for those 2 colors. Batum was missed. Although no single person can really stay in front of LeBron for too long, length can bother him at times. Watching the slower, smaller players in Roy, Miller, and Martell attempt to D him was painful to watch.

Seems many here do not care for his antics and ego. But can you really expect less of a polarizing character from a person who’s ego has been stroked since the 1st day someone realized that he was going to be a cash cow (junior high)?

Ovewrall, It was an entertaining game. Roy did his thing. LaMarcus…eh… yeah.

Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.

by Net Ranger on Jan 11, 2010 9:34 AM PST reply actions  

Batum was missed ? sure

but how about ODEN ! One of these days.

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by Berkeley on Jan 11, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Lebron gets his, no matter what

the difference was inside – and the Blazers are either short or light, there relative to teams like Cleveland. Huge mismatch that a good team took advantage of.

by blacknoiseNW on Jan 11, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Oden and Przybilla

would have changed some of James’ shots. Przybilla would have drawn some charges, too.

by dream1958 on Jan 11, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Zydrunas Ilgauskas IS.......your next AMERICAN IDOL!!!!

Did anyone get video of that? If someone posts a video of Big Z singing Drivin’ My Life Away on YouTube, I may never watch anything else again.

Yes! Yes! In the face!

by LeafHawk on Jan 11, 2010 9:41 AM PST reply actions  

Lithuania's got talent?

who knew?

When reached 40 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Jan 11, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow Ben, you should get a job writing for ESPN New Service's Basketball Blog Assistant...

We’re not talking about football here. You can stop LBJ by just getting into position and taking the hit. Charging, turnover…

The Blazers during the first half didn’t have anybody willing to do that. And THAT was the problem. He’ll make a certain number of perimeter jumpers. So will Kobe, so will Brandon Roy, so will Melo, so will any of the stars. But when LBJ is allowed to get to the rim unimpeded, THAT’S when Cleveland can’t be defeated.

To the Blazers’ credit, they figured this out in the second half. Marty did a pretty nice job on him. It wasn’t James’ “being bored,” it was actually getting in front of him and forcing him to pass out.

Blazers could have even WON THIS ONE if they weren’t turnover-plagued chokers down the stretch. But they were.

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by timbo on Jan 11, 2010 9:58 AM PST reply actions  

You mean like last year

when Joel was set for half an hour when LeBron ran into him, and didn’t get the call?

#5 #10 #52 #88

by jscot on Jan 11, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

or last night, when LeBron just barreled full force into Martell's chest, and Martell got called for the foul

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jan 11, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Lebron is much better overall than Kobe, it's not even funny. Can people please stop saying Kobe is the best in the world?

You can’t stop Lebron, he kills us, and everybody else, every single time. Kobe on the other hand doesn’t. Compare the last 2 games, which aren’t abnormal examples, and it’s not even close. I don’t know what you can do to even slow Lebron down when he wants to take over, but Kobe doesn’t scare me nearly as much.

by Coastie07 on Jan 11, 2010 9:59 AM PST reply actions  

You're comparing a SF to a SG, for starters...

Kobe can make every shot in the book. James can mash people like a freight train and then hit open looks from the perimeter because people are giving him 3 steps to keep him from driving.

Kobe is a much more proficient passer.

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by timbo on Jan 11, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

You're kidding, right?

Kobe Bryant as a better passer than LeBron James? You can’t find a single analyst on the planet who would say that. Not only has LeBron averaged 2.5 more assists per game than Kobe throughout his career (7.0 vs. 4.6), he does so by making passes that no one this side of Magic Johnson would even attempt.

by The_Real_Mike on Jan 11, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Two completely different offenses

Kobe doesn’t have the ball in his hand all the time becasue he plays in the triangle.

Lebron plays in the Lebron vs 5 offense.

by KBZ on Jan 13, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Kobe is a much more proficient passer.

This is comical, timbo. Come on.

Switch Lebron and Kobe, and the Cavs go about .500 while the Lakers win 70 games.

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Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Jan 11, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

“Switch Lebron and Kobe, and the Cavs go about .500 while the Lakers win 70 games.”

This seems to be a popular sentiment. Of course, I disagree. I don’t think Kobe’s versatility is given enough credit vs Lebron’s power and speed. Versatility ensures that if one facet of your game is neutralized, you can take advantage of another facet.

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by Gils_Keloids on Jan 11, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm only talking about how people say Kobe is the best player in the world so we would be comparing all players and positions overall.

And when it comes down to it, Lebron is a lot more effective overall. Sure Kobe taking the last shot is scary, but as far as the rest of the game, I’m way more afraid of Lebron beating us than Kobe.

by Coastie07 on Jan 11, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Kobe is a significantly more gifted shotmaker.

To suggest Kobe is the more proficient passer, though, is complete madness.

#52

by jksnake99 on Jan 11, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

If I'm playing H-O-R-S-E

with some sort of limitation on dunks, give me Kobe 10 times out of 10. If I’m trying to win basketball games, give me LeBron any day of the week.

#52

by Royster on Jan 11, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Depends...

Lebron doesn’t always shoot as well as he did last night. When Kobe has his shot going he is unstoppable.

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by Slopedoug on Jan 11, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I've been following LeBron for a while...

And I love LBJ, but if you’re talking about someone making a big shot at the end of the game, you have to go with Kobe. He’s much more proficient there. LBJ had a huge shot against Orlando in the playoffs last year and another one against the Wizards the year before, but I feel like Kobe makes a lot more of those deep, hand-in-the-face winning shots than ’Bron. However, the overall benefit of having a guy like LeBron who can both create and finish is better than just having a shooter like Kobe, in my opinion.

by Night Train on Jan 11, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

You're right, Portland would not take LeBron, or Durant for that matter

Come on leeroyjenkins, you really think his ego is that out of control, or his character is that questionable? I don’t want to rag on this, but the guy has had media up his ass since he was 15, and that’s the worst that has come up?
Most teens would have been partying like rock stars 24/7 and getting as much $ under the table as possible, especially knowing that they were going straight to the league. He’s handled himself extremely well, all things (overblown media, complete with blogs!!! twitter etc., the endless hype, poor upbringing, temptation galore) considered, and he has developed into one of the top 10 players ever. I don’t work for ESPN btw, but wouldn’t mind the paycheque.

Yeah, why would the Blazers want him? I’m sure all our guys are angels and would have handled the pressure just as well. Let’s remember, he’s only 25. I don’t mind people joking around and chiding him for things as he is definitely a little cocky/arrogant and I enjoyed the article, but let’s maintain some perspective here

by Gmurray81 on Jan 11, 2010 10:22 AM PST reply actions  

I Hope Those Post Goes National...

…so that Ben can be properly lambasted for this hack article. Great work there, calling out LeBron James for being inappropriately touched in public. Then wearing a towel while “talented” writers such as yourself burst into a locker room to ask questions.

Really Ben, you rocking the three-piece when you hit the gym? Way to make bloggers look bad.

by The_Real_Mike on Jan 11, 2010 10:32 AM PST reply actions  

Wow, this is well beyond dumb

To suggest that LeBron reacted the way he did because he thought he was above the person who touched him is complete and total idiocy. It can’t be more plain. The man reacted to being touched on the rear end, just like anyone else would do. I would be extremely weirded out if someone did that to me, yes even in a basketball setting. This wasn’t during the course of the game, this is during warm-ups. I mean, I am having trouble knowing where to even start. Do you allow random people you don’t know in your office to slap you on the behind? Teammates and co-workers who you are familiar with and know on a personal level is different, and you know it. Do you kiss your boss’s wife on the lips if you’ve never met her before? If this had happened in a professional work setting, it would have been deemed sexual harassment. Correction, it still is sexual harassment, even in the basketball setting. These are not young boys, they’re teenagers as you said, and they know very well what the consequences of their actions should be. Security throws people out for stuff like that. I guess I will end my rant here… I just hope you realize how misinformed that writing was. I mean… Wow.

by Night Train on Jan 11, 2010 10:33 AM PST reply actions  

Anyone else would have quickly convinced the kid not to do that

and not marched down to his teammates and beefed and complained about it.

He’s a diva. Thanks Ben for the insight. – Elgin

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by 22baylor on Jan 11, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotta disagree

Elgin, have you watched many NBA games since you quit playing? I would guess that 80-90% of players in the league would have done the same thing, including other stars like Kobe, Wade, Bosh, ’Melo, etc. I can think of two stars who might have handled it differently… Tim Duncan and Steve Nash.

by Night Train on Jan 11, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

LeBron has all the power in the relationship

All he has to do is to turn around, give ‘em the ’brow, and say "Don’t do that" and it’s over. To march down to the other end of the court and make a big deal of it with his teammates shows that he doesn’t know how to handle fans. Someone should straighten him out. Maybe Shaq will talk to him.

Eh, probably not. – Elgin

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by 22baylor on Jan 11, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Fully agree

This is beyond over the top.

Lebron doesn’t have the right to be a little taken aback when a teenager steps onto the court and grabs his butt during a shootaround? No matter who you are, you haven’t given away the right to be pissed off when a stranger grabs your butt. Simple as that.

You try to make this sound run of the mill by saying it was “not unlike” what teammates do during a game – even though you later acknowledge it was “bizarre” because it involved a complete stranger. Which is it? I’m going with bizarre.

And prior to that, you question whether Bron has the “ability” to express his “thoughts” in a manner you deem worthy? That’s borderline offensive.

Love your on court analysis, Ben, but I would tread carefully analyzing players who show their “genuine” side off the court. It’s even more tricky to break down.

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by KP Corleone on Jan 11, 2010 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not like our coach

has ever met a cliche he didn’t flog to death, too.

#52

by Royster on Jan 11, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

noone is saying he doesn't have the right to be pissed off or taken aback

But 10 years and the world worshipping the ground you walk on does not give anyone an excuse not to grow up and handle the situation like a man.

Look, I’m not going to walk away from this piece hating LeBron. I will still be in awe of his freakish displays of basketball poetry. I will also still be pissed that the league gives him calls that are reserved for about two or three other players and the Harlem Globetrotters.

It’s just a little disappointing that someone who has achieved grandmaster status at the art of basketball is still so immature and… yes, humanly imperfect… particularly around the people that adore him.

and the actual quote is

Why? Is he simply tired of the same routine? Does he have nothing to gain from it? Is he convinced that he understands the game in ways the average writer can’t? Is he simply unable to convey thoughts that matter? I don’t know.

I wouldn’t characterize that as condescending or offensive. Ben isn’t saying that James is unintelligent. He’s contemplating the disparity because I think he (and a lot of us) would actually like to see the court the way that Lebron does. He doesn’t really draw a conclusion, just notes that Lebrons interviews don’t really have much depth or feel to them and wonders why.

by Chadillac5000 on Jan 11, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree

His reaction is not because it was sexual, it was plain inappropriate and a violation of his private space, man or woman.

I’m sure someone will say, “He wouldn’t have done that if it was a hot chick”. Don’t be stupid.

Private space is private space for Americans of any social class.

"This is not a game for boys. This is a game for men." - Phil Jackson

by Gils_Keloids on Jan 11, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Quick really hammered on LMA

What name does he use when he posts here? – Elgin

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by 22baylor on Jan 11, 2010 12:00 PM PST reply actions  

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by LaMarvelous on Jan 11, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm offended by that

Jason Quick doesn’t know the first thing about advanced stats.

#52

by jksnake99 on Jan 11, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

But he does know about PF Fail in the Clutch...

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by timbo on Jan 11, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Quick

He’s nothing like me whatsoever, but he’s a pretty good beat writer when not trying to speculate or analyze trades.

#52

by jksnake99 on Jan 11, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

What? Didn't everyone get their fill of the LeBron gushing from ESPN? Oh, thats right you were at the game...

Seriously now, every possible superlative has already been written about “The King” so how about writing about something else. Like the fact that LaMarcus had his first decent game since injuring his ankle?

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by LaMarvelous on Jan 11, 2010 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

LaMarcus made many suspect decisions in the fourth qt. I cannot fault his teammates for not displaying full confidence in him this season, or even this game. The offense isn’t exactly running like a well oiled machine either .

LeBron= so funny. He tries so hard. I dont hate on his game, that would be silly, he’s so good, and smart. Anyone calling him dumb is lying to themselves . But everything about him is scripted, to the 10th degree. Even Kobe’s scripted-life-ness wasn’t as bad as LeBron’s is. Kobe went to the prom with Brandy, remember that! HAHAHAHHA , that seems so tame compared to LeBron, well doing anything these days.

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by BlazerFan1 on Jan 11, 2010 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

Come on, Sophia

if you’re going to bag on Kobe’s scriptedness, at least this as an example. I dare LeBron to ever top that.

#52

by Royster on Jan 11, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

ben.hater

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by BlazerFan1 on Jan 11, 2010 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/?p=23223

Looks like Ben has a detractor about his LeBron commentary.

I gotta say, it was a little overblown.

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by Arby on Jan 11, 2010 2:18 PM PST reply actions  

Miller had a great game against LA

and a very solid game against Cleveland. Last I checked, neither were crappy teams

How did you guys win that?
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by douglast on Jan 11, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

This went from funny - to weird- and then back to really funny.

I first started reading the story about Lebron’s ‘outrageous’ behavior pregame with the mindset that the author here is clearly being sarcastic with his criticism of Lebrons response to being fondled. And then it kept going…and going…I had to reread the entire article to make sure I didn’t miss a part describing how Lebron punted a 3 year old girl from half court to the upper deck – because even that type of action shouldn’t have invoked such a venomous criticism.

Seriously guys, lets just step back and look at what happened. Some random Blazers fan groped Lebron while he was practicing. What type of response is this suppose to get? If some stranger grabbed my butt, I would go absolutely crazy. This article proposes that Lebron’s reaction to the touching was a direct result of his diva status, and that since the molester wasn’t a teammate or acquaintance he was treated poorly. The irony here is that the author is the one thats imposing a different standard onto Lebron by expecting him to be grateful that a fan grabbed him, or to somehow be ‘cool’ and understanding of the actions because of the position hes in. Does anyone see the lunacy in this?

In fact, Lebrons reaction of walking away and joking about it with his teammates is admirable. I would have either a) ripped off the hand that did the grabbing, or b) had the douche kicked out of the arena. At the very least, I would have yelled and prolly punched the guy in the face.

by neyvit on Jan 11, 2010 5:08 PM PST reply actions  

The butt-cupping tidbit...

is stupid. Really? I probably would of done the same thing if A STRANGER CUPPED MY ASS (unless it was Rebecca Haarlow).

Ben is obviously not very fond of Lebron

by Qreatine on Jan 11, 2010 10:47 PM PST reply actions  

This should have been

at the top of this thread, so it could get rec’d massively.

#5 #10 #52 #88

by jscot on Jan 12, 2010 2:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice

Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.

by KP Corleone on Jan 12, 2010 6:48 AM PST up reply actions  

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