Photos: Brandon Roy Is Skinny
by Ben Golliver on Sep 21, 2009 3:44 PM PDT
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PrintJust returned from a tour of the Practice Facility put together by Tim and the good folks over at the SportsTwo Blazers Forum. More on the tour -- including a ton of photos starring some of your fellow Blazersedge readers-- later tonight or tomorrow.
The headline today was the presence of a much lighter Brandon Roy in the PF gym. Roy and Travis Outlaw were working with Assistant Coach Bill Bayno on a variety of jumpers with Roy concentrating on pull-up jumpers off of various pick and roll locations around the perimeter.
As Mike Barrett previously noted, Brandon has dropped a noticeable amount of weight. Now you can see for yourself in the first (albeit somewhat blurry) pictures of the new-look Brandon Roy to hit the internet.
Click through for more.
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
All Photos by Alex McDougall for Blazersedge.
For larger versions of any/all of these pictures, check out Alex's flickr account.
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
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did u buy the knicks?
u gonna build a new madison square garden?
Elizabeth had a partner and he had a rap from the cops, Him and Lenny Suckerpunch were just out Tooling around
by Lizzy Lowblow on Sep 23, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
That was my first time at the Practice facility....pretty sweet situation
I can imagine that getting a job with them would require some serious connections.
Everyone was great by the way….Bobby Medina must have enough airline miles to fly to Mars
Blurry pics FTL
I expected more from you Alex….
"What I'm not looking for is, uh, some big overgrown monster that's always thinkin' about food."
by Starvin' Marvin on Sep 21, 2009 3:51 PM PDT reply actions
Too bad he sold his good DSLR equipment to a Nigerian scammer this morning
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
For the last time I said I was Scottish, not Nigerian!!
Has the season started yet?
by SabasforThree on Sep 21, 2009 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Full transcript to come, but during an interview, KP answered the following question.
Question: Kevin, when you sign your full name, Kevin M. Pritchard, what does the M stand for?
KP: It’s from my mother; she named me Mortimer, because I was so Morterific it just made sense.
You wouldn't know traveling if it drove up in a greyhound bus. -- Larry Bird Lewis
by prezofdeath on Sep 21, 2009 3:51 PM PDT reply actions 10 recs
so mortimer ehhh.
"Awesome! Totally awesome! All right, Hamilton!"
by Slickrex on Sep 21, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Was Outlaw just jacking up half-court shots?
It seems like that guy does not know how to practice in order to improve. Was he trying to increase his BBIQ by osmosis from Roy?
by SonsofShawnKemp on Sep 21, 2009 3:52 PM PDT reply actions
obvious troll
is obvious.
You're saying that they look like they're giving it their all. And you know why they look that way? Because they're bad, and it literally takes them the maximum physical effort to accomplish basic baseball tasks like throwing the ball from short to first. When David Eckstein throws the ball to first base, he has to wind up like a shot-putter, spin around forty-three times, and launch it at an angle 89 degrees from the horizontal. Afterwards, he undergoes an IV drip for a fortnight and he's so out of breath that he requires several months of acupuncture to regain the power of speech. For this we laud him. -Junior of Deadspin on 'scrappy' players
i actually like Outlaw
he just usually takes the summer off and it takes him a couple months to get back into game shape and get his touch back….
Remember how he played at the start of last season? Don’t put your head in the sand on Outlaw for the 5th consecutive summer, Outlaw homers!
by SonsofShawnKemp on Sep 21, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Once again.
Too obvious. You’ve to bait people into making this blow up into something completely else, just making blatant statements isn’t going to work. You’ve got to work to work on your skills young bridge-dweller.
You're saying that they look like they're giving it their all. And you know why they look that way? Because they're bad, and it literally takes them the maximum physical effort to accomplish basic baseball tasks like throwing the ball from short to first. When David Eckstein throws the ball to first base, he has to wind up like a shot-putter, spin around forty-three times, and launch it at an angle 89 degrees from the horizontal. Afterwards, he undergoes an IV drip for a fortnight and he's so out of breath that he requires several months of acupuncture to regain the power of speech. For this we laud him. -Junior of Deadspin on 'scrappy' players
that’s fine if you like Outlaw… I love what he’s done for us over his career.
It’s just that I’m tired of him coming into training camp out of shape. Insulting people and calling them “bridge-dweller” is not a good argument—we’re talking about Outlaw here, not bridges (even though Portland is sometimes called “Bridgetown” and there is a neat bicycle ride where they close the bridges to cars and let you bike across them—very neat)
by SonsofShawnKemp on Sep 21, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
i have heard those reports as well
greed for $$$ is a great motivating factor for human beings. Outlaw wants to make a lot of $$$ (notwithstanding the fact he has already made more than middle-class citizens will make in their entire life) and hopefully that unchecked GREED will cause him to work harder and produce more for the team.
here’s hoping!
by SonsofShawnKemp on Sep 21, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup, only a selfish evil greedy person
Works hard to secure a new contract.
Whatever the motivation, reportedly he’s working hard, so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt— especially when it wasn’t exactly a secret that he didn’t work out in previous summers. Whatever causes the change doesn’t matter, because it’s a change for the better.
But yes, NBA players make a lot of money, because we all love to watch them. Getting more money is a great motivator for anyone, anywhere.
yep
I believe Outlaw tweeted as much… that he’s being motivated by greed for $$$.
I don’t care about the means, as long as the end is good. It’s not about teh journey, it’s about winning an NBA title.
by SonsofShawnKemp on Sep 21, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
This is a post regarding Brandon Roy...
..and his weight. This community is far too sophisticated to fall into O-live type trollism with you sir.
I think BRoy looks good and I am going to go ahead and trust that he knows his body and abilities well enough to be in the “right” shape for the season. It would be different if he’d gained 20 pounds…
Getting close to camp now… I can hear the squeeky shoes and the bouncing leather…
GO BLAZERS!!!
well
for me at some point the money becomes a “wow, i don’t really care about more money” because I have everything I want and need.
I haven’t reached that point because if I did I’d retire, volunteer more, and travel, but at some point an extra 100k or million just doesn’t matter anymore because it’s a drop in the bucket and people will either slack or be motivated by other things.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
I didn't realise that B-Roy needed to lose weight
I would have thought that his strength and relative size had been of benefit to him when he drives the lane and absorbs contact. But hey, I’m not his trainer!
"You've been warned...!"
A Stern Warning : http://www.asternwarning.com
From reading Barrett's blog
I don’t think it was on purpose. He got into swimming and biking over the summer and dropping 13 lbs was the result.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
According to MB’s post above, he is trimming everything towards speed this year, from lighter shoes to a lighter frame. Partly accidentally by losing weight with endurance training, partly on purpose because he didn’t fully like the feel last year.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
Ah - thanks guys.
I’ve been out of the loop for the past week and hadn’t read that article yet.
It no doubt will add years to his career with less weight on the legs, you’d have to think.
"You've been warned...!"
A Stern Warning : http://www.asternwarning.com
also had knee surgery around this time last year
but it was a quick recovery so he probably didn’t put on much weight because of that
we heard today from some team sources today that repeated some earlier reports… basically brandon put on extra bulk last year because he saw kobe put on bulk and thought that would work for him in order to deal with contact better. he dropped a bunch of weight this summer because he wants to be quicker, lighter, etc. and didn’t feel the extra bulk was of much use.
by Ben Golliver on Sep 21, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
lol before last year there were more worries about his durability. so he was probably over-compensating to some degree. he takes a fair pounding over the course of a season. this past season he seemed to get more calls and deal with the fouls better. he had a lot more gas left in the tank at the end of year 3 compared to the end of year 2 where he was really banged up.
by Ben Golliver on Sep 21, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
He should wear protective gear like Wade when he is worried about injuries when driving. Dude looks like a running back, only with lighter padding.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
I guess not when he wants to reduce weight. Just pointing out what others are using who get knocked around a lot.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
Hey, I think it's a good idea
But I won’t think Roy is wrong if he doesn’t wanna wear it, even if I think it would help him.
I am a gentle, forgiving soul.
M—
I'd feel better if Roy uses something like this.
by MiledAnimal on Sep 21, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
here here!
Numerically Blazers Edge is #25
by Outlaw is Rejector on Sep 21, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
What's that?
Some sort of armor for nerds so they don’t get beat up at school?
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Sep 21, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
As you can see
The suit eliminates wet willies, swirlies, noogies, purple nurples, indian burns, “kick me’s”, shoe lacing and pantsing. Also comes equipped with easy tear self regenerating tighty whiteys.
by Bskey on Sep 21, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Let me roll my 20 sided dice
see how many hit points to deduct
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Sep 21, 2009 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry SexT
When you have a username taken from Predator, you can’t accuse others of geekdom for Halo worship.
Pot, Kettle, etc.
PS- How did you choose which of your 20-sided dice to use?
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 21, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do you understand when people are kidding around?
Or must I explain it to you every time.
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Sep 21, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, pretty much every time
Thanks in advance
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 22, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
preferably in writing
always get it in writing my momma said.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
Also referred to as ...
a nipple twist or other less appropriate names.
"It's not who jumps the highest -- it's who wants it the most" Buck Williams
"and if EVERYONE confronted with a tough, disgusting situation pulled out, I don't think I would have been born." Mortimer
by Fund A Mental on Sep 22, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
sorry but.....Halo
is for the slow kids and 12 year olds…….it’s all about Call of Duty
Under winter skies
We stand glorious
And with Oden on our side
We are victorious
by WhiteRabbit on Sep 21, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
you hit...
the nail on the head with that one, i refuse to even insert disk into the Xbox, basically its perfect dart for the new generation, nothing wrong with it, but its just little kidish, and COD is all about strategy, teamwork and quickness. So if you want to play a game that makes you feel like broy, dont play Halo, play Call of Duty! or NBA live 09, or 10 when it comes out next month
-murhpi
"the secret ingredient is LOVE damnit"
Well, he is the Yellow Mamba, after all...
Ugh..that nickname he wants to give himself is putrid.
Anyone else think the main reason for Roy dropping weight is to reduce the stress to his knees? I am sure speed is part of the reason, but I can’t help but thinking that the knees are the main reason.
Krait & King Cobra seem much better choices
If Brandon really wants to name himself after a snake, maybe we could suggest either the King Cobra or the Krait. Both of these live on other snakes (even venomous Ones) and would enjoy having Black Mamba for lunch… The Krait even has Black & Gold coloring if the yellow color was really important.
Sting Ray is still my preferred suggestion. They are so graceful, and yet so dangerous. Kind of like our man.
Now, if only the opposing defenses were comprised of Steve Irwin doppelgängers.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
Rec for sheer chutzpah.
Coral snake
"BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US"
- Benjamin Franklin-
by We-B-Dunkin on Sep 22, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I LOVE the fact that Roy puts in so much effort in the off-season...
…into trying to get better and address ways he can improve his game/body.
"You've been warned...!"
A Stern Warning : http://www.asternwarning.com
I do too, though in this case the result remains to be seen
It worked well last year judging from the outside. But if he says he feels better now with less weight and has even worked with his shoe company in a speed/flexibility over more weight direction only he can judge that. And while players like Nic and Rudy obviously should rather add weight Roy seems to be somewhere in the middle between bulky and light. Hopefully it makes him less prone to injuries and not more.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
wasn't that a great nike ad!
Do you think NIke paid to have all that press about how wonderful they are, or did Mike get conned into doing it for free? Half the article was about Nike.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
It was fairly apparent that Brandon was sluggish, i.e. suffering from a high level of drag as he moved around the court last year.
He either needed to get in better shape at that same weight (lower body fat, better oxygen uptake) or use the weight loss method. Last year he clearly was having to—not wanting to—pace himself all of the time. It was one of the main reasons his defense was so spotty. The key to the weight loss is, did he maintain his strength? If he did, it is all good.
There is more to an athlete than how fast they can run, they also better be able to see what they are doing and know why they are doing it.
Good god.
If he was sluggish last year then he’s going to get to the basket every single time this year…
Has to live up to Tony Parker comparison
hence the weight loss.
On last night’s Courtside it was stated that Brandon lost 13lbs but is currently only 10Lbs lighter (206lbs).
Yes
and I do wonder how that drop in weight will play out. He’s a strong guy who’s powered through plays. Will he still be able to do that?
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
B-Roy looks like a champion!
(little does the NBA know that he will be one at the end of the season!)
Blazers win!
He's too selfish to win a championship
"What I'm not looking for is, uh, some big overgrown monster that's always thinkin' about food."
by Starvin' Marvin on Sep 21, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
smh
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
so true
Numerically Blazers Edge is #25
by Outlaw is Rejector on Sep 21, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Look at him get all that attention with his weight loss, not sharing any of it with anyone else
Has the season started yet?
by SabasforThree on Sep 21, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Serious question
I posted this elsewhere, but does anyone think it’s a good thing that Brandon didn’t touch a basketball during the summer?
I’m sure he wanted to make sure he was healthy for this season and whatever.
But I think it was also a big mistake. Maybe I’m wrong, but I doubt any other elite players took the summer off. My guess is Brandon takes a step back this year.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
I don't think so...
I think he spent all last summer working hard on his three point shooting and his play off the ball. He did do a lot of biking, but not to the exclusion of hoops. I don’t think it’s common for bigtime players to take the summer off. Taking the summer off from 5 on 5, I can see, but I don’t understand why he wouldn’t do individual drills.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
last summer he had his knee 'scoped
so he was limited to the bike and pool work
and from the looks of things, Brandon’s days of guarding small forwards are over
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
He'll still end up guarding them
Like when we play the Lakers, or anyone with a star SG. Because Batum will be on the star, and Roy will be on the weaker perimeter player.
M—
Mhm, that would be Ron Artest. Not a good matchup either way.
Also their bench is kinda troubling, imagining that Odom would be the backup PF against Travis/Dante/Howard.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
D'OH
Forgot about Artest. Last year it’d be Ariza.
So, Roy on Kobe, Martell on Artest. Roy can be amped for the Laker game and it works.
Problem solved!
M—
Howabout
Nic on Kobe, Martell on Artest and Roy on Fisher?
Fisher couldn’t drive past a wet sponge at this point – I reckon Brandon would be able to stay in front of him ; )
Works for me!
Hopefully now with Miller as the PG and Batum and Webster’s offensive development, WE will be the only team in the league where you can’t hide your star player on defense… everyone has to be defended.
That’d be nice!
Morty
Oh, man
If Roy has to guard either Kobe or Artest, we’d better just bench him and play somebody bigger. Size matters, you know.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
you just know the L*kers
targeted Ron-Ron because he’s had success against Roy and the Blazers
L*A hasn’t won up in PDX forever
and Portland is gonna be the toughest team for them to have to deal with, this year and going forward
Roy guards K*be, accept the challenge. Nic and Martell can deal with Artest
But who does Rudy guard when he comes in the game? Sasha?
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Yeah
I also think the Oden/LMA duo was part of the reason they had to bribe convince Memphis to trade them Gasol. They knew what was coming, and that Bynum might be able to at least compete against Oden, but they needed another big man to counteract LMA.
They knew what was coming, and to stay ahead of the game they knew they needed two top quality big men, and now a Roy-stopper. It will be interesting to see coming personnel moves — these two teams know that, after SA has one more chance to crash the party, the West mostly comes down to Portland and LA for the next 3-4 years, anyway. The Eastern media may not know that, but everyone else does.
LA is in “win now and try to find guys that will help us compete for the next 3-4 years” mode. Once Kobe loses a step, they are going to have to come up with something major, but until then he gives them a chance as long as they can stay somewhat competitive at other positions.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
Artest should help them against the Spurs and the Cavs as well
I’m not sure if L*A has had trouble guarding Manu or LeBron, but adding Ron-Ron couldn’t hurt (unless he wigs out again and hurts team chemisty, as well all hope…)
OTOH, Andre Miller has typically played well against the L*kers, so that could’ve been part of Portland’s motivation for signing the veteran PG
it goes both ways
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
42 pts in game 2 doesn't sound like success.
They should’ve tried for Battier too. Something tells me they know no one can stop Roy if he’s on fire.
by hobbyshop_hero on Sep 23, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
it’s worrisome.
Can’t worry quite yet though.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
if that’s true, then fantastic.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
too much ball touching
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
by cloudydays on Sep 21, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
That was my interpretation as well
It is overstating it when he says he didn’t touch a basketball, I am sure.
M—
Ah
You have calmed many of my worries.
--
by CaptainSexyJacob on Sep 21, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Nah.
A lot of guys do that. Andre Miller, who is probably the most durable player in the league, always takes Summers off.
I only care about Brandon staying healthy. That’s going to have a bigger impact on performance than anything else.
by Nick Van Excellent on Sep 21, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Really? What guys?
I don’t doubt that a lot of guys take the summer off… but do any truly elite players do it?
Lebron turned the corner this year when he saw at the Olympics how hard Kobe works every day during the offseason. Wade too. They spend their summers lifting and playing ball every day.
Guys on the level of Andre Miller – tough guy, good player, but can’t shoot a lick – can take the summer off. But can a max contract type guy?
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
Bro
Don’t matter cause he is a stud.
--
by CaptainSexyJacob on Sep 21, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Andre can shoot, just not threes.
I have seen/read plenty of interviews where players talk about taking extended time off after the season ends. I’m not going to go spend a bunch of time researching it, but I don’t think it’s all that uncommon.
The only way I see Roy NOT being a career superstar, is if he gets injured. I want him to rest up and I don’t mind him taking a few months off every Summer.
by Nick Van Excellent on Sep 21, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Steve Nash exclusively plays soccer during the off-season
Dirk spent that summer in the Australian outback playing zero or essentially zero basketball.
"I just sort of know that around the water cooler they talk of reality tv stars, and I strictly drink coffee." -- EvilKaramazov
by BlazersOrBust on Sep 21, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
How many championships do those guys have?
Busts, both of them.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
The Spurs are shutting Tim Duncan completely down this summer
Only training to improve the muscles and flexibility around the knees. In fact, Popovich has said he prefers that Duncan comes to camp out of game shape. Well, Timmy is considerably older than Brandon, but getting really healthy isn’t a bad thing. That was why Roy e.g. skipped the Team USA camp to avoid any risk.
Typically, Duncan would begin heavy lifting and conditioning work at the beginning of August. This summer, the Spurs have bumped that back until Aug. 31. In the meantime, Duncan has shed 15 pounds, down to 240, which should also help ease the workload on his balky knees. “His body is in the best shape it’s been in a while,” Popovich said.
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
Brian Scalabrine
didn’t touch a basketball this summer…
nuff’ said.
Numerically Blazers Edge is #25
by Outlaw is Rejector on Sep 21, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
He also doesn't touch the ball during the season.
Pubert Jones > Hedo
by rockingharder on Sep 21, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
ohhhhh
Burn Brian!
Numerically Blazers Edge is #25
by Outlaw is Rejector on Sep 21, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
"Lighten up, Francis" - Sergeant Hulka
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Sep 21, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
scoreboard
how many rings does Chuck Nevitt have?
(the prosecution rests)
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Yams Yams
"Lighten up, Francis" - Sergeant Hulka
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Sep 22, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure
Resting muscles and working out others is definitely a good thing and helps build strength.
However, not picking a facet of his game to work on… hmmm… not sure.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
who is that short asian kid in those pictures?
:)
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
I bet he speaks asian real good.
"Lighten up, Francis" - Sergeant Hulka
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Sep 21, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, great, Travis is working out with Brandon. Everyone will have all the minutes they want…….
Does anyone see the issue here? There are a lot of talented players and not enough time for them to play.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
OUTLAW IS TEH SUXORZ!!!!!!!!
trade him for a real SF like LeBron please
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
or Danny Granger
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
If the trade machine says it's a go...
book it. There are a lot of GMs who would totally trade Granger for Outlaw straight across. Throw in a couple second rounders and we’ve got Lebron easy!
Lebron is a high price
to be honest, I would take a second round draft pick at this point—it’s sort of the Sergio Syndrome that will take over when KP realizes we just need addition by subtraction and the subtraction is getting rid of Outlaw.
by SonsofShawnKemp on Sep 21, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
umm understatement of the year?
Lebron is a high price
dont see why trading Travis Outlaw would be “addition by subtraction”, but w/e
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
Ya only do that if a guy is damaging to the team not only on the court, but off
I don’t think Outlaw has it in him to be a team cancer.
He may be unhappy this year when he doesn’t get many minutes, and a trade would be best for his career, but he won’t become a whiny cancer who ruins chemistry.
M—
correct
until he gets mad about being backup PF and only getting 20 minutes per game, there is not rush to discard him.
I hear that Webster is looking incredible and Batum is lighting up Europe and maturing by the day! Outlaw (perhaps due to his 4 previous summers of laziness) is looking to be the odd man out. The guess here is that Outlaw is traded by the deadline :)
by SonsofShawnKemp on Sep 21, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions
i heard
that Oden looked like an all star in training camp last year
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
good point… MB and KP overinflated his stock.
I’ve never heard that Outlaw is “looking good” during the off season though.
by SonsofShawnKemp on Sep 21, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
2nd round pick?
Jeff Pendergraph
Jermaine Taylor
Dante Cunningham
Sergio Llull
DaJuan Summers
Sam Young
DeJuan Blair
Jon Brockman
Jonas Jerebko
Derrick Brown
Jodie Meeks
Patrick Beverley
Marcus Thornton
Chase Budinger
Nick Calathes
Danny Green
Henk Norel
Taylor Griffin
Sergiy Gladyr
Goran Suton
Jack McClinton
A.J. Price
Nando De Colo
Robert Vaden
Patrick Mills
Ahmad Nivins
Emir Preldzic
Lester Hudson
Chinemelu Elonu
Robert Dozier
I understand the animosity towards Travis here on this blog, but I don’t think he is a worthless player. Take a look at the list above, 2009’s 2nd round picks… in three years come back and tell me how many of these players put up a season as good as Travis’s last season or better (on a winning team). It doesn’t matter which season or how many, then take the total number of players (that do as well or better than Travis) divide it by 30 and you have an idea of what percentage your trade would be worth.
I’m not a whole-hearted Travis supporter, but I don’t believe he is a disease that needs to be cut from the team for next to nothing. There are teams that are short on proven athletic forwards that can create offense from the bench.
Sergio went to the press and showed his discontent with his place and future on the team. He was an assist machine, but never proved he could be an offensive threat in the second unit which depended heavily on Rudy and Travis to back up Aldridge so Roy could have a break.
I agree there is a log-jam at the 3, but Batum has yet to develop an offensive game (as of this point), Martel has been out a year, and there is no true proven backup 4 (except Juwan, really though?)
Find a trade that would help out the blazers and help another team, go for a power forward, but I just don’t understand the reasoning behind trading Travis for a shot in the dark.
by Oggbog on Sep 21, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Minnesota
Would be the perfect destination for Outlaw. They need a SF, we need a backup 4. Send us Gomez and the rights to Rubio, and we throw in a 1st rounder.
by blacknoiseNW on Sep 21, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
And the firstborn child of every Minny resident
As long as they’re giving up Rubio for Outlaw, why not ask for everything?
Sarcasm aside, not going to happen. Rudy maybe, but just maybe. Not Outlaw.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 21, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Minnesota drafted their replacement for Rubio in the 6 spot
Flynn will have two years developing his NBA game while Rubio is developing his physique and fundamentals.
Also, Rubio will play his first game in Minnesota wearing someone else’s uniform. So now that we know Rubio isn’t hopping to jump to the NBA – his trade value has diminished significantly.
It won’t take nearly as much to get Rubio as people currently think. The 2-year timeframe suits Portland just fine – and Outlaw is heavily underrated relative to Rubio. Rubio isn’t going to be a productive NBA point guard for 4-5 years, at best.
by blacknoiseNW on Sep 21, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Regarding Ricky Rubio, I still believe the Minnesota T'wolves should just cut its ...
ties with the 18-year-old Spanish sensation by offering him to the New York Knicks straight up for unprotected first-round draft picks in 2012, 2014, and 2016. That’s a fair deal for every party involved in it.
As it pertains to the Portland Trail Blazers, I wouldn’t want Rubio to have his rights traded to the Portland Trail Blazers if I’m his agent or parents. With no disrespect to Portland, it’s a small-market city with a coach who’d mishandle a point guard such as Rubio due to the kid’s splashy, flamboyant skill set.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
Rubion was a #5 pick
whose value took a hit. A #5 who probably won’t play for 2 years (for sure won’t play for 1) is not worth 3 lottery picks. Not to any team.
by blacknoiseNW on Sep 22, 2009 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions
How do you know if those would ultimately be lottery picks?
The New York Knicks might be dominant by the time 2012 hits.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
I'd give you 2016, 'cuz anything is possible
but dominate by 2012? With what? Nate Robinson? Lebron? I’ll believe it when I see it.
by blacknoiseNW on Sep 22, 2009 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I doubt they are dominant
but I also doubt they’ll be in the lottery.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
That's exactly why I wouldn't do it if I was Minny
Ya hold on to this piece, it won’t lose value unless he gets hurt. The Rubio Mystique, whether warranted or not, will only grow as the time he can do an affordable buy-out draws near.
No reason to sell low now.
M—
Right
It’s not as if they expect to win this year anyway. So why trade a chip that may be very valuable later? All they could get right now would be someone who would make them mediocre bad instead of bad horrible bad. So what?
They might as well stay bad horrible bad, get another high draft pick, and then trade Rubio when he’s about to come over and the media is foaming at the mouth about how good he is going to be.
Right about that time, some stupid GM somewhere will be ready to give up three all-stars and a lottery pick to get him. That’s when you trade him, not now.
It would be different if they were actually GOOD right now. Then, you trade him for a player that would make you really, really good. But if you are going to lose anyway, then you are going to lose. Might as well lose really effectively so your fans can dream about a #1 pick, rather than dream about making it to 33 wins.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
Lebron??!?! Are you kidding me?
That guy is TOTALLY selfish. He’d be taking away so many shots from Roy and aldridge, not to mention the number of assists he’d be stealing from Andre Miller, and the blocks he’d be stealing from pryz/oden.
by moflow on Sep 21, 2009 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
And how are we going to develop Batum into the top SF of all time if Bronbron is taking all of his minutes?
Pass.
by TheThinWhiteDuke on Sep 21, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
rec
"Early to bed, early to rise, makes a woman healthy, wealthy, and wise. That's why you all are wiser than me. It's cloudydays."
Lebron gets 10 shots with us..tops.
With all the ball-hogging that BRoy does. Now there is a selfish player. The # of lbs he lost is exactly the # of extra shots he plans on putting up per game.
I figure 68 mpg for 4 players, that's only 17 minutes per player
There are a lot of talented players and not enough time for them to play
Rudy, Batum, Martell and Travis
Rudy backs up Roy for about 10 mpg, Travis backs up LMA for the same amount
That leaves 48 minutes at the SF postion to divide among the 4 of them
Assuming they all stay healthy, there’s either gonna be one guy left out, or all of them will be unhappy
(The PG and center minutes will already be divided among 4 other guys, again, assuming they can all stay healthy)
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
and I’d argue that the organization is trying to boost the amount of minutes that Rudy plays as well… which only adds to the logjam.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
And that is why we experimented with a solution for the minutes logjam last year
By putting in 6 men on the court. Based on how successful that lineup last year, I’d imagine we go with that strategy more this year.
Especially if there are replacement refs
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
The minutes answer is simple
To guarantee exteneded minutes, the bench players jsut have to push the lead to 20-30 pts and they will get to stay in the game. If they can’t do that then they go back to the bench while the starters push the lead up to 20-30pts. Only then do the becnh plaers come back in.
The bench players only geet 10-18 minutes per night, if they want more, they’ll need to earn them. Their fate is in their own hands.
sounds good to me, as long as this "reward system" is understood by all the players
because if not, and a couple of weeks go by and there are no blowouts, I don’t expect “bench morale” to be very high
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
If Roy plays 38 mpg, the Blazers are having a bad season
by blacknoiseNW on Sep 21, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
It was definitely a good time.
Nate was incredibly patient with the pictures and you have to respect KP rocking the pink shirt. Best part was some of the group wandering into the players locker room. Greg Oden’s shoes are ridiculous.
wish I would have known and/or gotten an invite
I work just up the road from the PF and drive by it almost daily. Dang, I would love to have gone to the tour.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
I wonder how one gets on the list of “Haves” around here, instead of remaining a “Havenot”
by SonsofShawnKemp on Sep 21, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
you need to ad hom a lot of people
Love.
by L-TrainFTW! on Sep 21, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
What a jerk
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
I'm not worried, nor will I worry
A lighter Brandon? That’s fine. Hopefully this team can run more this season and a lighter, quicker Brandon alongside Andre Miller might work better. Great players add weapons to their arsenal almost every season. I’m looking forward to the new Brandon.
That being said, even if Brandon finds his lack of bulk is a detriment to his game? Brandon’s the type of person and player that would work to change. Brandon will find the right balance, there might be a degree of experimentation.
It’s nice to have a player that is coming into the season in shape. It’s hard to lighten up, bulking up is always an option. A little more depth, hopefully fewer minutes per game, and a lighter Brandon might make for better overall season and post season. I thought Brandon looked tired towards the end of last season.
I’m psyched for the new season, new Brandon, new Webster, new Oden…..new/old Andre Miller….bring it on!
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
I thought Brandon looked tired towards the end of last season
Roy told a teammate he was “so tired” on the bench during game 6 against Houston. It wasn’t the extra pounds he was carrying as much as having to carry the rest of his teammates on his back (42 points in game 5, etc)
Here’s hoping Miller will help everybody work smarter, so Roy doesn’t have to work harder
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Roy wont be driving the middle as much with andre miller but will be in the post more
and setting up for threes more often
Less weight on Brandon is perfect!!!
The less weight you have the less weight and stress you are putting on your knees.
Only downside I can see
to this is if he lost strength/hurt his ability to finish at the rim while taking contact. We’ll see how B Roy looks in the season, but he can always bulk back up if he feels like he needsa to. It will be very interesting to see if he has more energy/explosiveness, that would be great
Give Rashad Floyd a permanent slot on 95.5 the Game
Ha, another superstar player who didn't touch a basketball all summer
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/61700/20090921/scalabrine_played_it_safe_this_offseason/
"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard
Kobe onced bulked up to 230 lbs
For the 04-05 season, Kobe decided to bulk up.
Bryant certainly looks ready, having bulked up to 230 pounds and spearheaded weight-lifting sessions and pickup games with the new Laker family for the past few weeks.
Playing weight was probably 220 lbs.
Then in 07-08, he wanted to trim down and go back to around 200 lbs.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2944034
On his weight loss of 19 pounds, he said it was the first time in nine years he had weighed in at 200 pounds.
I think 205 lbs is a good weight for Roy. It can certainly improve his lateral quickness on the defensive end.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Posse and Prez
You guys look good, heres to you.
Numerically Blazers Edge is #25
by Outlaw is Rejector on Sep 21, 2009 5:23 PM PDT reply actions
Ouch.
Unintentional Dougall blow.
You wouldn't know traveling if it drove up in a greyhound bus. -- Larry Bird Lewis
the love runs deeper
than physical letters on a screen.
The love is deep, and it is for you.
Numerically Blazers Edge is #25
by Outlaw is Rejector on Sep 21, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
are you
the nerdy looking guy with the Pryz shirt on?
(if yes, those other people need to leave you alone—you look fine)
by SonsofShawnKemp on Sep 21, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Air Max Rise?
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Sep 21, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Great post. BRoy looks noticibly thinner which is kind of weird. I think it's good because he will
be quicker off the dribble and be less likely to get injured.
speaking of weird
Outlaw looks kinda weird with hair
by blacknoiseNW on Sep 21, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions
These "didn't touch a basketball" statements don't hold much weight
Roy is such a hard worker there is no need to doubt his offseason workouts. As for the weight loss, I say lets see what steamlined Roy can do. I’m guessing the court will be littered with broken ankles in the wake of our superstar. And at the very least, if bulkier really is better, it’s a lot easier to put that muscle back on during the season than it would be to take it off.
for someone who has "...hardly touched a basketball"
Roy has pretty good form on that J – considering it is the offseason, and his feathery touch counts as hardly
So awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m sure that was a great experience for you guys. How were you chosen?
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
With Oden’s development and the addition of Miller, maybe Roy can stop driving the lane and getting pounded so much (think MJ circa 1996-1998). Whether intentional or not, I like this change (especially this year, consider it a final experiment prior to our championship window flying wide open).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exOxUAntx8I&feature=channel_page
by The Cactus Leaguer on Sep 22, 2009 1:12 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
His strength
is not going to drop off much. He’ll always be the strongest (in game strength) at his position.
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