NBA Locks Out Refs

Not new news, but bad news just the same. NBA reffing's not great but anyone who's watched Summer League or low-major college ball knows it could get a lot worse...

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We though Oden got called for ticky-tack fouls before...

There’s no way that this lockout can be a good thing for the product on the floor.

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by T Darkstar on Sep 18, 2009 2:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

He needed preseason with the regular refs to help him get his fouling problems fixed. Now we will be lucky if we get the regular refs back by the start of the season and he will have to adjust again during the season.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 18, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

crap.

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Sep 18, 2009 2:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

A lot of people are gonna get exactly what they asked for

And boy o’ boy are they gonna regret it.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Sep 18, 2009 2:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Replace them with robots

by undutchable on Sep 18, 2009 2:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Hello 1995.

It was AWFUL.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 18, 2009 3:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Stern is awful

The union’s contention was not on about pay, but rather about trying to force an agreement that goes against federal age discrimination laws. The offer that was rejected by the union would have encouraged older refs to retire to avoid getting their pensions cut by the new agreement. Also by giving lower pension benefits younger refs would be financially encouraged to leave the league sooner rather than later. Without a contract signed and agreed to by the union, this practice would be illegal under federal law; hence all 57 referees voted against Stern’s last offer.

Never in the history of mankind have workers ever received better compensation (Pay and benefits) or working conditions without the fight of a strong union.

by NWfan on Sep 18, 2009 5:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Actually the Black Plague had just that effect

the poor folks who survived commanded much higher wages due to the scarcity of laborer’s.Just saying

by southern oregon on Sep 18, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Another side

Some of the older refs need to retire. Refereeing is very physically demanding, and a lot of these guys are so far past their peak it isn’t funny.

And lower pension benefits are the wave of the future. It’s happening all around the world.

Illegal under federal law? So would be the players’ CBA if it weren’t agreed to by the union, probably. That really means nothing.

The owners are getting the squeeze due to the economy. They are looking to pass some of that on to the refs (it isn’t Stern, it’s the owners). Next will be the players.

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 19, 2009 1:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hope the refs never come back.

Ofcourse the new refs are going to be beginers and call bad fouls. The old refs bias towards big cities and star always hurt smaller markets and basic fairness. After time, a year, they will be professional refs with the basis.

by vie1scott on Sep 18, 2009 11:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Why would the new refs not have the same biases for big teams and big stars?

It happens on every level. Having a reputation as a player or a team helps you.

If anything the new refs will be MORE star struck, most likely.

Mo—

by Mortimer on Sep 19, 2009 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

In 1995 the superstars were extraordinarily disrespectful of the replacement refs

as if they were daring them to toss them. A lot of the replacement refs were intimidated, but many technical fouls were called.

David Aldridge of NBA.com:

As a reminder, the union sent out an informational memo Thursday detailing the numerous fines and suspensions handed out by the league during the period when replacement officials were used in regular season games. According to the memo, the NBA issued more than $200,000 in fines and suspended players for a total of 26 games for fights in November of that year, compared to $147,000 in fines and 22 games in suspensions for all of the 1994-95 season. … The memo also quoted prominent players, including Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen, who decried the job the replacement officials were doing and welcomed back the veteran referees once they agreed to a new deal on Dec. 7.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 19, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs