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After watching Spain vs. France and listening to Dave and Casey on the podcast, I started having crazy position thoughts.  Brandon and Andre at point guard, Blake and Bayless at shooting guard, and Nic and Rudy at small forward seems right to me somehow.  So how crazy is this?  Brandon and Andre are both great decision makers.  Blake and Bayless are both great shooters, and Nic and Rudy played small forward against each other today and both looked great to me.  I know there is a problem somewhere but I just don't see it.  Defense?  What do you think?

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Did you watch Bayless play last year?

How do you deduce he is a great shooter? 17% from 3 point range and 25% mid-range? Granted Rudy at the 3 works at times but it is a huge match up problem against stronger Small forwards like Prince and Lamar and even Richard Jefferson. Bayless can get the rim with ease but as a point guard, as a 2 Im not so sure, and he has yet to display that he can run the offense without looking for his own shot and his shot has yet to fall in the regular NBA season as well as a subpar preseason this year trying to run the point. Martell will be back to form and I see him starting and a second group of blake, rudy, batum, outlaw and Pryz that can run if Blake pushes it and Outlaw rebounds….both big IF’s.

by TheOdenator52 on Sep 17, 2009 9:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Now THAT's a second unit!

Blake, Rudy, Batum, Outlaw/Howard, Pryz.

by mlsinpdx on Sep 17, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I appreciate your creative thinking but...

…you lost me when you said Bayless is a great shooter. I also favor Martell over Batum and Rudy at the 3.

by mlsinpdx on Sep 17, 2009 9:35 PM PDT reply actions  

All true.

Part of the reason I liked those players is that they all can play some point guard. But I’m not sure that really helps anything. Although having good ball handlers on the floor has to be of some benefit. I didn’t break down the units…lets see…Roy, Blake, Nic, Lma, Joel are starters and Andre, Bayless, Rudy, Outlaw, GO are the 2nd team. That 2nd team would be running and gunning wouldn’t they. 1st team all control. I like it.

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by Kampeska on Sep 17, 2009 10:44 PM PDT reply actions  

This is similar to where I'm leaning, too: Two fine Units

I’m leaning toward these two units in practice
First: Blake, Roy, Batum, LA, and, (OK, for the sake of argument) Joel… Great half court set.
Second: Dre, Rudy, (Martell over Bayless), Outlaw, GO – Fast break city, baby!

Now, I’m trying to figure out the transition – how Nate can get from the first to the second unit and back again. Here’s my shot at it: starting with the first unit, my first sub is…
1) Rudy as Blazers, and the NBA’s 6th man! (Maybe that will keep Rudy happy) (In for the resting-for-the-WCF BRoy)
2) (Maybe at the same time) Dre for Blake, and let’s start to RUN baby!
3) Then GO in for Joel – pedal to the medal with (Dre, Rudy, Batum, LA and GO – best FB 5!)
4) Then Outlaw in for LA, no real downgrade in speed yet…
5) Bring in Martell for Batum… Switch to pullup 3’s on the break with Martell and Rudy!

And now back to the starters…
6) Roy for Rudy (OK now have Dre, Roy, Martell, Outlaw GO… plenty of options there!)
7) (Maybe at the same time) Blake for Dre – to run the half court set
8) Joel in for Greg
9) LA in for Outlaw
10) Batum in for Martell

End of 1st half. Repeat for 2nd half,,

(Except for the fourth quarter, it’ll be usually more like:
Bayless, Rudy (wow already!), Outlaw, Cunningham, and… the guy to win the 15th roster spot, my guess, Steven Hill…
)
 
Good luck keeping this squad under 100, opposing coaches!

Blazers: RUN away with the title!

KP: Please don't trade the next decade's Scottie Pippen (Batum), Spanish Larry Bird (Rudy), Bill Russell (GO) or Captain BRoy - at least until they 3-peat..

by Visionary2 on Sep 17, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd modify you substitutions a bit

First of all Roy would not tbe the first guy to get out of the game, even if it’s for Rudy. I’d still bring in Rudy but Batum would be coming out and Roy would slide over to the three until Webster came in to replace Roy. Also I’d switch the order for of 4/5 and 9/10. Also one could swap starters for bench players but the positional subs would stay the same. Anyway you slice it, the Blazers have a fine team.

by NWfan on Sep 18, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correction:

Bayless is great at doing this:

"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."

by Arby on Sep 17, 2009 11:15 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

It would be good then that

Blake and Bayless are the shooting guards and can handle that.

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Wheels to Jason Quick

by Kampeska on Sep 18, 2009 8:10 AM PDT reply actions  

not really

1) Brandon at the point puts too much ball handling and playmaking load on him, when he should just be required to score the ball since that’s what he does best

2) Bayless at the 2 creates major defensive matcup problems and makes the lineup smaller. If he plays 2, then the PG will have to guard the opposing 2, and if its anyone other than Brandon/Rudy (as stated already a bad idea), then that’s a matchup problem also

3) Blake at the 2 – see Bayless at the 2 but with much more disastrous results, Stevie can’t guard Aaron Brooks let alone Kobe

4) Rudy at the 3 doesn’t work either. He’s to small and not strong enough to stay with the Carmelos of the world. We can intentionally play some small ball to exploit matchups, but playing Rudy at the 3 made his #s drop last year

I have an idea, why don’t we have this roation

PG – Miller/Blake
SG – Roy/Fernandez
SF – Batum/Webster/Cunningham
PF – Aldridge/Outlaw/Howard
C – Oden/Przybilla

seems pretty good to me

by rip_city_swagger on Sep 18, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Cunningham has already bulked up

so he’s more of a 4/3, I think Travis will be more of a backup SF than Dante

KP/Nate could still use a #3 center, in case of emergency. I don’t like the idea of LMA “sliding” to backup 5 (and Outlaw/Howard/Cunningham playing PF…) for a stretch of games if Greg/Joel were to get hurt

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by two4larue on Sep 18, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bayless...

Great shooter? I will need to witness it before I buy it.

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by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Sep 18, 2009 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Can we think a little bit more outside the box?

What would be nice to see more of this year is more matchup substitution rather than always going with time slotted, robotic subbing. In other words, work the matchups, rather than exhibiting preprogrammed behavior which allows other coaches to plan for mismatches in their favor.

We have a great degree of flexibility, let’s use it to our advantage as a way of probing for the other teams weaknesses.

How about Outlaw against slower defenders, Bayless against quicker, thinner guards, Rudy against players whose concentration has a tendency to wander, Martel against poorer perimeter defenders, Batum against the other teams best wing scorers, Blake against guys who like to help, Priz against guys who try to draw fouls, Oden against players who like to score in the post, Andre against the savvy penetrating point guards, Daunte and Jeff against more physical players, Jeff inside, Daunte outside, and Juwan on players that deserve to receive a veteran foul or two. Brandon and Lamarcus can be wild cards.

And above all, when a player is on a roll, let them play. When a player is not playing well, get them out of the game. It was amazing to watch last year as our substitution patterns would go directly against these basic rules. Too many times I would have to yell at my TV, and that just is not right, because my TV had nothing to do with the crazy substitution patterns.

There is more to an athlete than how fast they can run, they also better be able to see what they are doing and know why they are doing it.

by KINGofMACct on Sep 18, 2009 8:17 PM PDT reply actions  

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