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Blazers Sign Juwan Howard

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2:45PM: Update from Jason Quick...

"I think he can still play," general manager Kevin Pritchard said. "His experience, and his experiences, are invaluable and we felt his demeanor is something we needed. He will have a voice on this team, and he will demand things out of the team."

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Pritchard said he intends on entering the season with a full roster of 15. The final spot will be decided in training camp between three to five free agents Pritchard will bring in. Pritchard said he will reveal those free agents early next week and said the invitees will be a mixture of guards, forwards and centers. Training camp begins on Sept. 28 with media day and a team dinner.    

Can anyone explain this?

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Jay Jensen is at the airport wearing baggy shorts and black socks bumping Hail to the Victors on his boombox.

Juwan Howard becomes the 8th former lottery pick on the Blazers roster, joining Brandon Roy, LaMarcus Aldridge, Jerryd Bayless, Martell Webster, Joel Przybilla, Greg Oden and Andre Miller. 

From the team... More coming...

TRAIL BLAZERS SIGN JUWAN HOWARD

PORTLAND, Ore. - The Portland Trail Blazers have signed free agent forward Juwan Howard to a one-year contract, it was announced today by General Manager Kevin Pritchard. Per team policy, terms of the deal were not disclosed.

"Juwan Howard will add a wealth of experience and veteran savvy to our young, talented roster," said Pritchard. "We look forward to Juwan's contributions on the court and in the locker room."

Howard (6-9, 250, Michigan) holds career averages of 14.9 points, 6.6 rebounds and 2.5 assists in 1,043 games (871 starts) over a 15-year NBA career with Washington, Dallas, Denver, Orlando, Houston and Charlotte.
 
Originally selected by Washington with the fifth overall pick in the 1994 NBA Draft, Howard garnered All-Rookie Second Team honors in 1994-95 and earned a spot on the Eastern Conference All-Star team in 1995-96.
 
Howard averaged 17 points or more and seven-plus rebounds in each of his first five seasons in the league. He has tallied 188 career double-doubles.

Howard, 36, played three games last season for Denver and appeared in 39 contests for Charlotte. In 42 total games, Howard averaged 4.1 points, 1.8 rebounds, 0.6 assists and 11.2 minutes in 2008-09. He reached double figures in scoring five times.
 
The Chicago, Ill., native has appeared in the NBA Playoffs four times, averaging 9.8 points, 5.7 rebounds and 1.2 assists in 23 games.
 
A member of the "Fab Five" at the University of Michigan, Howard was named Third Team All-American in 1994 after averaging 20.8 points and 9.0 rebounds in his junior season. Howard then entered the NBA Draft, becoming the first NBA player to leave school early and graduate on time.
 
Howard becomes the 14th player on Portland's roster. He will wear jersey No. 6.

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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I think this is good news

though it also makes hope they treat LaMarcus with the concern one usually gives an eight-month pregnant woman

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Sep 17, 2009 11:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

did you know Honka that it's actually 10 months for a pregnancy??!?!?!???!

since KP knows this, he has an extra month before real care begins

Rebecca Haarlow is one of the best sideline reporters. Please stop bashing her. Have some respect for our reporters

by broyposse on Sep 17, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not me - I dropped in 34 weeks

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Sep 17, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

:(

Rebecca Haarlow is one of the best sideline reporters. Please stop bashing her. Have some respect for our reporters

by broyposse on Sep 17, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was a good thing. I was already 8lbs 12 oz. My poor mother

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Sep 17, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what!??!?!?!?

your dad must of had hopes that you were the next GO…Greg Ostertag that is

Rebecca Haarlow is one of the best sideline reporters. Please stop bashing her. Have some respect for our reporters

by broyposse on Sep 17, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My sis was 9lbs3oz

The smallest of the 4 of us.My poor mother!

"BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US"
- Benjamin Franklin-

by We-B-Dunkin on Sep 17, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had a co-worker who was the smallest of three brothers.

He weighed 12.5 lbs at birth. The other two were 13.5 lbs. and 15 lbs. As men, they were all around 6’1" and from 235 – 275 lbs.

by MiledAnimal on Sep 17, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ouch

"BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US"
- Benjamin Franklin-

by We-B-Dunkin on Sep 17, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My uncle weighed in at a whopping

17 pounds at birth. And his mother was a tiny woman. At least prior to the pregnancy.

"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green

by antediluvian on Sep 17, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

welcome J-Ho1!

Rebecca Haarlow is one of the best sideline reporters. Please stop bashing her. Have some respect for our reporters

by broyposse on Sep 17, 2009 11:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's Josh Howard. KP got the wrong Howard.

Welcome Juwan Howard. I hate you (from your time with the Mavs).

by Norsktroll on Sep 17, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps we'll get better production per dollar

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 17, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, that's news. Thanks Ben.

Am I the first one to see this? It’s like people have jobs or something!

Dang I’m not the first anymore.

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Sep 17, 2009 11:35 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So, we like 4's that can shoot

it’s officially a trend.

Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash

by HurraKane212 on Sep 17, 2009 11:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

4s that can shoot, athletic 3s, and rough-n-tough 5s.

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Sep 17, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Juwan is probably a better option than Ostertag and co., but I’d still like to have signed a hungry D-league big. Pritchard went with veteran experience, which is understandable.

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Sep 17, 2009 11:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

for once, i have to agree

Rebecca Haarlow is one of the best sideline reporters. Please stop bashing her. Have some respect for our reporters

by broyposse on Sep 17, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll have a hungry D-League big in a few months - Pendygraphy

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Sep 17, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We still have a 15th spot

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 17, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quick said KP is going to bring 4-5 players into camp

and they’ll compete for the last roster spot

(see fanpost below for more from Jason)

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Sep 17, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, Greg Ostertag would've been a better option.

1. Ostertag can play center.
2. Ostertag can play defense.

Those are two things that Juwan Howard can’t do whatsoever.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Sep 17, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although we don't know if he can now,....

since he’s been out of the league for years. I don’t think it’s safe to assume he can still do so.

"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green

by antediluvian on Sep 17, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your Crazy

“Ostertag can play center.”

Just because that was his position doesn’t mean he can play it. Ostertag was over the hill when he turned 21.
This was much better.

by bigrhy on Sep 17, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying I'd sign Greg Ostertag; rather, he brings more to the table than Juwan Howard.

My personal preference would’ve been to bring in a young, defensive-minded center who crashes the glass like Dwayne Jones, who’d’ve been working his tail off daily in practice to prove himself.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Sep 17, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been out of the loop.

Ostertag was a serious possibility? Portland can’t find younger and cheaper talent elsewhere?

by torsoheap on Sep 17, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He wants to come back and had a workout, yes. But it wasn't exactly close.

Welcome Juwan Howard. I hate you (from your time with the Mavs).

by Norsktroll on Sep 17, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

I’d rather Portland mined the D-League for a young big dude willing to work hard than a washed-up never-was.

by torsoheap on Sep 17, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't get too excited about this.

I would have rather seen Joe Smith or even Mike Ruffin.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Sep 17, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Juwan is still a better player than Mike Ruffin. That is not saying much.

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Sep 17, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd've rather seen Dwayne Jones, as he's a young, defensive-minded center.

Juwan Howard, however, is a soft, over-the-hill has-been who’s complete trash.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Sep 17, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

c,mon AK tell us how you really feel

"BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US"
- Benjamin Franklin-

by We-B-Dunkin on Sep 17, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joe Smith would

have been nice, I didn’t understand why we didn’t even talk to him (maybe we did but I don’t know)…

by Blenzer on Sep 17, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Finally I have someone I can wholeheartedly hate on

He was already bad in Dallas when I had to watch him the last time, he was bad in Charlotte, and he will be bad here. Shavlik would have been a better option. Or almost anyone.

There's Gotta Be More To Life

by Norsktroll on Sep 17, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i have to agree with this...on the Shavlik piece...i won't hate on Juwuan but Shave would have been better...

i think they gonna let him sit on the bench and coach Travis on how to play the backup 4

Rebecca Haarlow is one of the best sideline reporters. Please stop bashing her. Have some respect for our reporters

by broyposse on Sep 17, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will. Top 5 "FreeDarko Cancer Effect"®

Really the first player who doesn’t fit at all into KP’s concept. Though he probably told them great stories about wanting to do everything for the team. And won’t see the light of day on the court.

There's Gotta Be More To Life

by Norsktroll on Sep 17, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahah

if he sees the light of day on the court, our second unit is in trouble.

KP just wants another player that can talk retirement funds and IRA with Andre…and play UNO while the rest of the team attends TI’s concerts

Rebecca Haarlow is one of the best sideline reporters. Please stop bashing her. Have some respect for our reporters

by broyposse on Sep 17, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong

If he sees the light of day on court, it is because someone is injured (so he could get activated) AND we’ve blown out the other team so badly that the second unit gets rested, too.

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 17, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right!

our second unit is in trouble if someone gets injured;P

Rebecca Haarlow is one of the best sideline reporters. Please stop bashing her. Have some respect for our reporters

by broyposse on Sep 17, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quick said the Blazers called Howard's former employers

and everybody they talked to gave Juwan a thumb’s up

I’m not sure if KP consulted with the folks from freedarko.com

It will be interesting to see if JH “bucks” the FreeDarko “Cancer Affect” trend in PDX, if the Blazer’s fortunes go south this year, we’ll all know where to point the finger

Jason was saying the Blazers expect JH to help Oden and LMA with their post play, kind of an “extra” big man’s coach who will only be “active” when needed

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Sep 17, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

a thumbs up from our competition...

“Yes he’s a great guy (snicker snicker). It would be be great if you signed him (snicker snicker).”

by AverageJon on Sep 18, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

people says he´s a great lockerroom guy

and he adds a lot of experience too.
That´s more important when we´re talking about a 14th roster spot.

by Falcao on Sep 17, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would rather have the roster spot

Admittedly opinion of him is heavily influenced by his time in Dallas of course, when he played in 50 games and had a PER of 4! He was atrocious.

There's Gotta Be More To Life

by Norsktroll on Sep 17, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

considering he's older...not sure how he can improve on the PER of 4 unless he plays 5 minutes a whole season and gets 10 pts aggregate

Rebecca Haarlow is one of the best sideline reporters. Please stop bashing her. Have some respect for our reporters

by broyposse on Sep 17, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

to be fair he had a PER of 11 last year.

He won’t get any playing time. If there’s an injury, we’ll see some Dante before Juwan.

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Sep 17, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

players tend to increase their PER with increased minutes

of course you’ll see the small sample size hilarity like Steven Hill leading the league in PER, but by and large a player will play better the more he plays.

by jksnake99 on Sep 17, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or is it that a player who plays well will stay on the court rather than get yanked?

by Real 2K Insider on Oct 12, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then Juwan is the exception to that rule. He had a 4 in Dallas.

Welcome Juwan Howard. I hate you (from your time with the Mavs).

by Norsktroll on Sep 17, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is still below league average. And in his last playoffs he was -9. So much for playoff experience.

I can’t forget how bad he was. Malik Allen, Bass and even Fazekas played circles around him. Not to speak of New Orleans.

Welcome Juwan Howard. I hate you (from your time with the Mavs).

by Norsktroll on Sep 17, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't say he was good-- just that a PER of 4 is misleading

He hasn’t been an above average player for sometime now, but he was better than Frye last year.

by jksnake99 on Sep 17, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is debatable. He also played in 20 more games.

But of course Frye costs 4 times as much now.

Welcome Juwan Howard. I hate you (from your time with the Mavs).

by Norsktroll on Sep 17, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

so does this mean you sold your JHo jersey!??!!??!?

Rebecca Haarlow is one of the best sideline reporters. Please stop bashing her. Have some respect for our reporters

by broyposse on Sep 17, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

for sure it's debatable if he is better than Frye, but not for me. And not for what I think the blazers need.

I said this before in this thread already; both players may lay a turd in their limited minutes, but I’d rather have Juwan lay a turd in the paint than Channing lay a turd on the perimeter.

by dario argento on Sep 17, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

our backup pf

is outlaw, I expect Juan Howard to play as much as Ruffin or Shav did for us last year.

by Falcao on Sep 17, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, no love for Juwan. I like the move. Veteran savy. Will help keep defenses honest. Can shoot. Can pass. Can rebound. Only wants/needs a one year deal, and next year Pendergraph will be our man.

by Heizer on Sep 17, 2009 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm totally fine with this

we don’t need him to do a whole lot other than play some decent D and rebound a bit, and he can do that. The NBA is so much about the mental game, and he has played for a long time an understands how to play and defend, and is OK with his role as a reserve.

And as was stated above allows for Pendy or whoever to step up next year

by rip_city_swagger on Sep 17, 2009 11:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a bad human victory cigar.

at least he won’t make too many bonehead plays or fall for cheap fouls.

Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash

by HurraKane212 on Sep 17, 2009 11:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I am packaging him with Trout right now

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Sep 17, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well be sure to include some lemon wedges

Defenseless under the night
Our world in stupor lies;
Yet, dotted everywhere,
Ironic points of light
Flash out wherever the Just
Exchange their messages:
May I, composed like them
Of Eros and of dust,
Beleaguered by the same
Negation and despair,
Show an affirming flame.
-W.H. Auden

by Love on Sep 17, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I thought of that

but the only thing I like to eat with trout is trout. For me, it’s not a fish that goes well with other stuff.

By the way, your signature always make happy. Lovely poem, lovely thoughts

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Sep 17, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

rice pilaf?

Maybe Travis and Mike Rice are a trade package?

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Sep 17, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

bacon

Everything goes good with bacon.

My dad used to catch the fish in the morning and my mom would clean them and cook them while we little guys slept. Breakfast of champeens. – Elgin

Without you out there, we're nowhere here

by 22baylor on Sep 17, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll have my "Post-Howard Minutes Distribution" post up soon

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Sep 17, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Maybe we can get Memphis' unprotected first rounder for him

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 17, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to Portland Juwan.

even back in the days of the fab 5, he has never turned down a good hard foul. I’ll take his experience and 6 fouls on the Blazer bench, even though I still remember him hurting my beloved DA.
Does this mean Collins and other mystery quests are not coming to work out now?

by FrenchieFan on Sep 17, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He did hurt DA once

"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy

by Honka Playboy on Sep 17, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He hurt Derek Anderson?

I’m liking him even more as we speak.

by DonkeyShins on Sep 17, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And yet,

He still wasn’t the worst X-Factor ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hytNhCOhP8

made em jump like Rod Strickland

by Guaranteed on Sep 17, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why

does X-Pac look so much like Vujacic.

by resurrect_ha28 on Sep 17, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sean Waltman looks like the heterosexual version of Sasha Vujacic.

Ah, I can’t be too hard on “The Machine” here. The dude does have sweet hair.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Sep 17, 2009 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does this mean Collins and other mystery quests are not coming to work out now?

Quick said there’s going to be an open competition for the 15th roster spot in camp. May the best man win, but I suspect “fit the culture” will be the most-desired skill they’re looking for

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Sep 17, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Larue,

and in DA’s defense, he was damaged goods thanks to Howard’s hard foul before he was ever traded to the Blazers.
Howard makes sure there is no and one when he fouls.

by FrenchieFan on Sep 17, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope he doesn't play much.

KP signed him for his experience. A player-coach role so to speak.

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Sep 17, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He can teach LMA some dirty tricks

"BEER IS LIVING PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US"
- Benjamin Franklin-

by We-B-Dunkin on Sep 17, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually not a bad point at all...

Howard does have a bit o’ take-no-nonsense dirty in him – which is a common harping point people bring up about LMA.

by Knobby on Sep 17, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quick said Howard could've helped Portland against Houston

anyone who can bring an edge (chippy behavior) to the Blazer’s frontcourt is welcome by me, as long as he doesn’t take it over the edge and get fined/suspended or cost the team a win with excessives Ts

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Sep 17, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quick is good at reporting stuff that has happened and is a solid writer...

… but basketball-wise, his opinion is no more (and probably less) valid than the average BEdger.

by jksnake99 on Sep 17, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that you, Jason?

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 17, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

in Jason's defense

he said Howard was the leader in the clubhouse for the 14th roster spot, last week

Quick’s gonna be talking to Wheels and Canzano quite a bit this fall, if I hear the interviews (and have time) I’ll paraphrase them, here. How seriously you regard JQ’s info is yours to decide.

I’d rather hear it straight from from KP or Nate more often, too. But they have other stuff to do

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Sep 17, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

bring on the Fakers and Artest :)

by FrenchieFan on Sep 17, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of the NBA's greatest losers

the dude’s never been on a good team. Not a huge fan of this move, but I’ll trust KP on this one.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by Addicted to Quack on Sep 17, 2009 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What are you talkin about?

15 years and 23 playoff games is the mark of a winner.

Hopefully, he’ll double that in his one year with the Blazers.

I get the paper, so I don't care!

by Name's Ash on Sep 17, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

23 playoff games is probably 4 playoff series. That’s 4 playoff series in 15 years. That doesn’t sound like he’s been on any good teams. Four one and dones?

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 17, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Ash was being sarcastic.

"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

by Cablinasian on Sep 17, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I was.

I get the paper, so I don't care!

by Name's Ash on Sep 17, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I know

I meant to be replying to Dave, but was kind of rushed because of a work phone call. Sorry for messing up your sarcasm. :)

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 17, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, I see now.

We can still be friends.

I get the paper, so I don't care!

by Name's Ash on Sep 17, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, that was in jeopardy?

If that is all it takes, this friendship is doomed, because my truly obnoxious side hasn’t come out yet.

Didn’t some famous guy say, “I have not yet begun to spite?”

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 17, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I’m too sarcastic.

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 18, 2009 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

right

this isn’t Chauncey Billups or Antonio McDyess we’re talking about, here. I’d still like a more-experienced vet PF, but finding FAs like that who are willing to come to Portland ain’t easy. Getting one in a trade might be a little easier, if the team they’re playing for isn’t expected to reach the playoffs, at mid-season

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Sep 17, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On Monday night Courtside they said Howard had not yet shown up to workout.

If he arrived Tues or yesterday he apparently looked good enough to make a quick decision (for a 14th player/bench sitter).

At least he’s cheap ($825K. league pays the rest) but that drops our cap space at the start of the year down to $1.9M now.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 17, 2009 11:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Again, Quick said

the Blazers have had conversations with Howard, so they were probably set to sign Juwan if he wanted to come to Portland, and he was able to pass a physical

Jason said Howard was playing hard today at the PF, and encoraged the other guys to play another game when they were ready to take a break. He also told the other team to keep feeding Greg the ball when he was on a roll, even though Howard was the guy guarding Greg

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by two4larue on Sep 17, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aha! The real reason for this deal

.. is they plan to let Juwan get destroyed by Greg every practice to get Greg’s confidence up!

by Visionary2 on Sep 17, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hack-a-Greg

at least Oden should be ready for just about “anything” (re: hard contact in the paint) by the time the regular season games start

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by two4larue on Sep 17, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe he can teach brandon how to grow a gotee

bayless leaves over my dead body
andre miller>hedo

by thomasikehara on Sep 17, 2009 12:00 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

What is up with the Blazers needing to add old guys to this team? It's not what it may seem

to be on paper. Just because a guy is a vet doesn’t mean it’s going to rub off on everyone else.

by BRoyInThe4th on Sep 17, 2009 12:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Another good reason!

So the NBA won’t be talking about ‘the youngest team in the league’ all year, which is a not so subtle way of saying ‘no experience’ to our guys…

by Visionary2 on Sep 17, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dunno about this one

he might teach LMA how to be the next Juwon Howard… and that’s not a good thing.

by jksnake99 on Sep 17, 2009 12:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I am Whelmed:

Nowhere near “That’s Fantastic”, slightly above (or below) “at least they say he is a smart vet who will keep his mouth shut and hide his attitude between his cheeks and the bench”.

So, now that they have added a human paperweight, who are they going to get to play back-up PF that won’t be a huge drop-off from LMA? This move tells me that Outlaw is their choice and will stay with the team. Paragraph will be the 3rd center?

by Sashland on Sep 17, 2009 12:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How does that follow?

It’s a one year signing. Cunningham could easily be the backup PF of the future.

by TheMadKiwi on Sep 17, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

love the old school, Sam Cassell-like crafty-ness, towel-waving ability he brings to the squad.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Sep 17, 2009 12:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

People Calm DOWN! ITS ALL GOOD!

We just basically picked up an Assisstant coach!. Juwan wont get any minutes. He is there just for exp alone. He will be there to mentor and coach our young forwards, Personally, I think this is a great move and that we wont regret it. The only thing that scares me is he is a top five cancer effect for any given team. Lets hope he doesnt effect us this way, lets hope he just brings knowledge, savvy and can be like a cool older brother type. He is a vet and that is something we dont have much of. Im cool with this move.

Now if KP was saying something like JH will come in and play hella minutes this season, I would protest. If he was coming in to play, there were alot of other forwards out there I would rather have. Since hes coming to basically help with mentoring our youth and not really play, great! Thats all we need from him.

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by cavejunctionblazer on Sep 17, 2009 12:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

PS--

Thanks BEN for the breaking NEWS!! You guys are on it! Yall make this site so worthy!! Hands down—Blazersedge is the best Blazers site out there anywhere!!

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by cavejunctionblazer on Sep 17, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also injury cover, obviously

Is his contract guaranteed? If not, then we can cut him if we need the space.

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 17, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would think it's guaranteed, but it would be great if it wasn't.

I’m not objecting, because we need injury cover. I was just responding to the suggestion that he is really only for “coaching” purposes.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 17, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll cure cancer

by winning more games than last year.

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 17, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love it.

Life is hilarious.

by SolGoode on Sep 17, 2009 12:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Welcome Juwan

You’ll love it here.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Sep 17, 2009 12:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think this is a good move.

I remember watching Howard in many games where I was rooting against him and thinking what a frustrating player he can be. You don’t expect him to be very good, then he comes out and bangs hard, defends hard, takes up space, get some rebounds, and can hit an open elbow jumper or two as well. He is a good insurance policy. He’s a player who’s not going to lay a turd coming off the bench, which our rookies may very well do this year.

by dario argento on Sep 17, 2009 12:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

First things first..

Howard has never been a double-double guy. But he averaged a respectable 17 ppg for 10 seasons. Also remember that Juwan was basically forced into being a first option scorer with the Wizards from 94/95 to 00/01. He’s not really the kind of player (like a Malone or Duncan) who should be relied on to lead a team in scoring. The same thing happened in Denver where they tried to make him the face of their franchise in 01/02 and 02/03. Howard isn’t particularly good on defense either but he’s known to be a very hard worker. Portland is a good fit for him.

He’s had some tough years injury-wise as well. Last year he only played 3 games and the year before that he played in 50. There are some valid concerns about his age. He’s 36 and will be 37 in 2/2010. But I really think one of the Blazers goals this year is for LaMarcus to become an all-star. Granted that Howard was only named to the all-star team once, but once is once and he did that in only his second season. This past season was LaMarcus 3rd without an all-star appearance. Howard will help LaMarcus with his game and he’ll REALLY help Pendergraph. Provided that Pendy works out, it seems obvious that Howard can be a player/coach for the young fella. More so than a younger LaMarcus can right now. Maybe the Blazers are thinking long term and want a veteran guy to improve LaMarcus and get Pendy ready to back him up in 10/11.

Simply put, I don’t expect a ton from Howard this year. But I do believe if he stays healthy and especially if Outlaw is traded, he could end up averaging 10-12 minutes a game and provide some stability at the 4. Channing never really fit that bill and Outlaw isn’t a true power forward. Howard’s true upside is on the practice floor with our second unit. Remember that most guys in this league (especially forwards) don’t last after 35. So, for the Blazers to sign him, I see it as a clear indication that they think he can do much more for the team than just play.

Regarding Hedo Türkoğlu:

Look at the bright side, Blazers fans -- you dodged a bullet. He peaked statistically two years ago. He's allegedly 30 but could be closer to 32 or 33 for all we know. (Do you trust Turkish birth certificates? And isn't it weird that he played four years of pro ball in Turkey in the 1990s?)

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by halo_on on Sep 17, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Howard

I kind of prefer if they use those final roster spots to pick young guys that have an outside chance of making it in the NBA.

However, considering that they already have a lot of promising players at various points in the pipeline (Cunningham, Pendergraph, Mills, Claver, Freeland, Koponen) maybe the pipeline is full enough already.

by lsjogren on Sep 17, 2009 1:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

the pipeline is stuffed

Portland needed to add a couple of vets, I’m not saying that Howard was the “best” choice, but he was the right “kind” of player to add to a contending roster

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by two4larue on Sep 17, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have a D-League team that we could use for young pipeline prospects

But well that’s another thing the Blazers seem to have little use for in recent years

"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard

by Norsktroll on Sep 17, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that the Blazers would rather keep their coaches working with ther kids

Besides Martell (briefly) and Taurean Green(?) I can’t remember KP sending anyone to the D-League, or signing anyone off a D-League roster. I think they’d rather just draft Euros and let Philippi watch them develope overseas and report back

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by two4larue on Sep 17, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most NBA teams are not effectively using the D-League as a source of talent...

the whole developmental system needs to be overhauled.

Reno, Nevada is west of Los Angeles.

by RenoBlazerFan on Sep 17, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe we couldn't get Lebron

I am so disappointed. We keep bringing in low-maintenance veteran guys who aren’t superstars but who just might help the team. This is not Lebron at all!

I am so furious.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Sep 17, 2009 1:30 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Howard ≠ Low Maintenance

Welcome Juwan Howard. I hate you (from your time with the Mavs).

by Norsktroll on Sep 17, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Outlaw>Lebron

No Way… just a 2nd rounder would be fair

Big D from Blog-A-Bull - "Pritchard is such a genius that teams just give him players for free."

Greg Oden - The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 400 rebounds, and 65 blocks in under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946

by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Sep 17, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To explain my opposition: Some quotes from fans about Juwan Howard from his time in Dallas and Charlotte (his last 2 stops)
  • “Wasn’t the point of bringing on all of these Vets to add some players and have anyone actually get excited about big plays, about playing period? I’d trade Malik Allen, Magloire, Juwan Howard, and Antoine Wright for Darrel Armstrong right now.”
  • “so if we want to add Cassel or another scorer, i say we waive Juwan Howard…”
  • “If Dirk or one of the other bigs goes down for an extended period will Juwan Howard really help? No”
  • “He just seems grumpy all the time”

Charlotte:

Welcome Juwan Howard. I hate you (from your time with the Mavs).

by Norsktroll on Sep 17, 2009 1:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You are going ak on us

it’s hilarious

and you have turned in2 the oH
original hater

go head norsk..

S

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Sport is my boyfriend

by BlazerFan1 on Sep 17, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

AK hopes not

He’s been lobbying for a third string center for two years, and Big O (as in “OH, NO!!!”) is definitely a third string center on his good days, which are long past.

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 17, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greg Ostertag can at least play defense, which Juwan Howard is deathly allergic to in every way.

A part of me hopes that Greg Oden or Joel Przybilla gets injured, so that Kevin Pritchard can wallow in his idiocy of not acquiring a hard-nosed backup power forward who can move over to center in a pinch (e.g., Nick Collison, Jeff Foster, et al.) to provide depth and add roster balance.

If it takes him getting ironically “pritchslapped” to learn this simple lesson, then so be it.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Sep 17, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has there been anything

to indicate that Pritchard is actually done?

There’s another roster spot. Seeing as we now have Outlaw, Cunningham, Howard, and Pendergraph (later) competing for 12 backup PF minutes, it seems likely that any other stiff big man backup is likely to indeed be a center.

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 17, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

KP's leaving the 15th spot open

and there will be 4-5 players in camp trying to snag it

but, if the team only has 14 guaranteed contracts, they could sign a FA after the preseason that gets cut from another team, or make a deal on the eve of the season when the Euro-hold money becomes available

KP had better not be “done” but a lot will depend on how all these guys play and if someone can’t stay healthy

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by two4larue on Sep 17, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somebody can't detect dark, sardonic humor. As it is, my frustration boils over sometimes.

Regardless, Juwan Howard is a poor signing because he sucks and his contract cuts into any cap space that could have been used to absorb someone in a trade once the cap holds on the “Eurotrash Triplets” had been removed at the start of the regular season.

Unequivocally, it was a blockhead transaction by Kevin Pritchard. That’s his problem. however.

At any rate, y’all better hope Greg Oden and Joel Przybilla are beacons of health this upcoming season; otherwise, it’ll be a long, disappointing campaign with matador defense inside.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Sep 17, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was at that game when OysterBag punted the ball in frustration at the RG...

and got tossed something like ’96 or ’95… Hilarious and sad at the same time.

by Knobby on Sep 17, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was at the game against the jazz when he hit a half court shot at the buzzer of halftime.

It was gross in a sick (disgusting) (bad) (no really bad or negative) way.

by tevisthe4th on Sep 17, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is great news!

If only for the fact that it is new news.

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by T Darkstar on Sep 17, 2009 2:13 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Does anyone else remember this old commercial?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdF550Kt-7c

I’m going to start using Juwan in the form of a question, like “Juwanna see Steve Blake start at PG?”

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by two4larue on Sep 17, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Can't believe the reactions... Another check on the summer checklist!

Pardon me, but weren’t we talking all summer about needing a:
- veteran
- big man
- tough guy
- deep backup who won’t mind playing zero minutes,
- maybe somebody that could teach the young guys a few things?

I think we just went 5/5, didn’t we?

As to the people hoping for a ‘YOUNG guy who might develop’…
Uh…What?
Don’t we already have a logjam of ‘young guys who might develop’??
Why in the world would we want any young player with potential who might take away minutes from anybody already on this team??? (time to transition to championship building instead of asset building, people!)

This is really just too funny. I mean, this is a 14th roster spot! He’s practice fodder! (practice!?)

Just don’t mess up the chemistry Juwan and you’ll be fine…

by Visionary2 on Sep 17, 2009 2:40 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

Rather 2-3/5

Veteran: Check (he didn’t win much, but check)
Big man: Nope, he is as tall as Travis
Tough guy: Nope. He once was fluid and fairly strong though.
Deep backup who won’t mind: Well he will look real grumpy, but hopefully won’t really be
Teach the young guys: Didn’t work in previous stops, but maybe this time… He can teach them a ridiculous high release if that is what we want. And he is pretty good boxing out, although he doesn’t get a lot of rebounds due to his gone athleticism.

Welcome Juwan Howard. I hate you (from your time with the Mavs).

by Norsktroll on Sep 17, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the risk of getting skewered,

I’ve got to agree with Visionary2. I look at it this way. What did we really have to offer a 14th roster spot player? I understand that people are dumb-founded that the Blazers are going forth with Travis as a back-up PF. But it really looks like it’s going to happen. So what did we have to offer? Nothing. You won’t play except if there is an injury and probably not even then. You will get the minimum salary. It’s doubtful you will be on the active roster for even one game this season. And please don’t complain. Actually, could you be a great, upbeat locker room guy and let our bigs who make 10x your salary beat the #$%^ out of you every practice. Wow! It’s hard to believe there wasn’t a line to sign up for the job of 5th string PF on the Portland Trail Blazers!!!

by Sean M on Sep 17, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

you don't disagree

with NORSK. no one does.

"Awesome! Totally awesome! All right, Hamilton!"

by B-ROYalty on Sep 17, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know a thing about Howard as a player.

Totally clueless. It just seems like he accepted a lousy job for lousy pay with no guaranteed future or glory (playing time). If we were going into the season with a 14 man roster then we wasted the vet minimum on him. But it sounds like there is still another signing coming. So we had 2.9 mil to sign 2 more players. We got a guy who has 15 years experience in the NBA, has some playoff experience, and from initial reports is trying to pass along some of his experience to our young guys in practice. He probably won’t play or even ever be active. Discussing his limetime PER is sort of irrelevant.

I feel like the fans and KP are on a different wavelength. We are waiting for him to fix the Travis situation. He’s unaware there is a situation.

by Sean M on Sep 17, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Over 90%

of the people who comment here would take that job with that pay in a heartbeat.

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 17, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course they would.

And 100% of the people who comment here aren’t qualified for the job and wouldn’t be considered for it.

I figured I’d get that comment from someone, but not really from you, jscot.

by Sean M on Sep 18, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's actually a brilliant job

He could sit at home and watch, or sit on the bench and have a shot at actually collecting a ring.

There’s nothing lousy about the job. In a sense, being the “mentor” is very satisfying. I’ve had that kind of opportunity a few times in different situations, and it is as gratifying to see someone you’ve been helping/teaching succeed as it is to succeed yourself.

And this is a chance to see them succeed. Imagine that you are really good at your job, but retiring in a couple years. And they ask you to train your replacement, and bring in a real whiz kid. He’s sharp, he’s got all the tools, but he doesn’t know the company or the job, and you get to turn him into the genius that saves the company millions. And you know the chances are high that you can, and he’s just the kind of guy who is not only talented, but actually willing to listen to you, take your advice, and go places with it.

What a brilliant opportunity. Not just for the year or two, as you work with him, but you can watch his career with pride, knowing you had a little bit of part in it.

Vicarious victories are pretty neat, too. That’s really what a fan experiences, happiness in someone else’s victory. So why shouldn’t Juwan be a fan, and enjoy being a fan in the best seat in the house on the most exciting team in basketball?

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 18, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great point.

Although I find I need to read your points several times to make sure you are actually serious. I’ve decided you are on this one, and I’m probably wrong.

Howard probably got the best gig out there for him right now. I don’t disagree with that. Yes, he could get a ring.

I say lousy because I question how many other players would have said yes given my perception (maybe misguided) of player’s egos. This job can have a great upside, but it’s not a glamorous gig. Actually, it’s the lowest contract a player of his experience can receive (if he signed for vet’s minimum). So you present the glass half full view above, but the other side is minimum money, probably won’t play, can’t just slack off because the team won’t allow it. You’ve really got to have your ego in check to sign that deal IMO.

It’s a lot of money to a working stiff, but basically a joke in the NBA. It says you are just barely good enough to make a team. I generally assume a player of his experience doesn’t need the money so salary is more of statement of your stature in the league. I know very little about this guy, but it seems disappointment suits him better than wash-out. So where Greg Ostertag would be the luckiest guy alive if he got this deal, it seems reasonable to believe that Howard would chose to retire or look for something else if this is all he could get from Portland. Somebody has wanted this guy for 15 years.

And I still believe my basic point is valid. Being 14th guy on a roster for a player with his career is a bit humbling. Maybe not a job that a lot NBA players in his position would want.

I do hope he makes the best of it and helps the team. I doubt KP would have signed him if he didn’t think he could contribute. And, of course, I’m really pulling for Juwan to get that ring. You know, like this year would be fine.

by Sean M on Sep 18, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I'm serious (this time :))

Look at it this way. How many guys his age can still get even a minimum contract? He’s stayed in the league a long time, there’s an ego boost in that.

The ego boost of being able to still help the team in a different way probably overrides the “14th guy, minimum contract” factor.

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 19, 2009 2:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He gets $1.3M, which isn't exactly lousy pay.

But the league feels so bad about us having to pay that much for him that they are going to pay everything over $825K, and we only get charged $825K against the salary cap.

My concern is the salary cap situation. This moves us down to $1.9M under the cap (after we renounce Randolph and the Euro’s come off the cap at the start of the season), but KP says he plans to sign a 15th stiff player during training camp (that will move us to about $1.1M under the cap). That’s a lot less flexibility for an Outlaw trade than the $2.7M under the cap we could have had without signing Howard and a 15th player.

So there would seem to be 4 possibilities.

1) KP has a trade worked out already and needs less than $1.1M in cap space.
2) KP has a trade worked out already and needs less than $1.9M in cap space, which he could have by delaying the signing of a 15th player until after the trade.
3) KP has no trade worked out already and will only have $1.1M in cap space to find a trade by the trade deadline (middle of Feb).
4) KP doesn’t plan to trade Outlaw for a backup PF – in which case you better hope Howard or the 15th stiff can really still play if LMA is injured.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 17, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Add:

5) (Haven’t heard yet whether this is a guaranteed contract). If not, just renounce when necessary before the deal..
6) KP has a trade worked out that needed another $1M or so in salary to send their way to balance.
7) re: 4, KP DOESN’T plan to trade Outlaw for a backup PF… but it’s OK because Nate is able to play GregZilla on the court at the same time to make up for any lack of LMA…
8) Nate lost a high stakes poker game, so had to hire 2 ex-teammates… Got Hershey, now got Howard… check!

Blazers: RUN away with the title!

KP: Please don't trade the next decade's Scottie Pippen (Batum), Spanish Larry Bird (Rudy), Bill Russell (GO) or Captain BRoy - at least until they 3-peat..

by Visionary2 on Sep 17, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty good

I’m not sure how salary matching works. I know that you can match salaries up to 125% plus $100K or something. But can you do that with cap space? Let me illustrate my question.

If you are sending out $6 million in salaries, you can take back 125% ($7.5 M) plus $100K, so $7.6 million. If you are sending out $4 million in salaries and $2 million in cap space (total $6M), can you also take back $7.6 million? Or are you limited to $6 million, the amount you sent out plus your cap space?

If the latter, you actually have more flexibility with a couple of cheap expiring contracts than you do with a little bit of cap space.

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 18, 2009 1:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it's not $125% of (salary sent +cap space) + 100K.

You can receive $125% of salary sent + 100K to end up anywhere over the cap. Or you can receive (salary sent + cap space) + $100K, i.e. you can go 100K over the cap if you use the cap space you had.

I think a simple way of looking at it is that cap space can get you more in return if your cap space is greater than 25% of total salaries being sent out.

Using your $6M in salary example: You can always take back 7.6M = 125%*6M+100K no matter where that puts you over the cap. But if you have greater than 1.5M (25% of $6M) cap space, then you can take back even more salary. i.e. if you have 1.6M in cap space then you can take back 6M + 1.6M + 0.1M = 7.7M.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 18, 2009 3:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But my point is

that expiring contracts can actually bring back more salary than cap space.

Suppose we sign another vet as our third center, and it takes our remaining 1.9M cap space for a one year contract.

We now have these two one year contracts at 2.7M, plus (if we trade Travis) another 4M. That is 6.7M in expiring contracts, right?

We could trade the three of them and bring back 6.7M * 125% plus 100K, or roughly 8.5M.

If we didn’t sign the two vets and eat the cap space, we could have traded Travis and brought back 4M (Travis) + 2.7M (space) + 100K, or a total of 6.8M.

We can bring back more salary with expiring contracts than we can with cap space.

So my point is that having cap space consumed by expiring contracts can actually give us more flexibiility in some trades than the cap space would give, if the 125% rule applies to outgoing salaries but not cap space.

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 18, 2009 4:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Urgh

I’m using 4M for Travis, but that’s Steve’s number. The same principle applies, though.

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Sep 18, 2009 4:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but it depends on how much cap space you have

when you do the trade compared to the salaries you are sending out. In your example, we have zero cap space because you added another player that consumed the remaining $1.9M cap space we had, and you traded 3 players which also increased the total outgoing salary.

Let’s look at the current cap space situation and just consider the option of adding one player to the team and to the trade versus trading Outlaw alone as the team stands now.

In our current situation after signing Howard we will have $1.9M in cap space.

Now if we want to trade Outlaw ($3.6M) are we better off signing another player for $0.8M (reducing our cap space to $1.1M) and eventually (after Dec 15) trading him with Outlaw, or would we be better off using the $1.9M in cap space we have now to trade Outlaw?

1) If we keep the $1.9M in cap space we can take back:
 $5.6M = 3.6M + 1.9M + 0.1M

2) If we add and then trade a new player ($0.8M) with Outlaw we can take back:
$5.6M = 125% * (3.6M + $0.8) + 0.1M

So in our current situation it makes no difference (with these slightly rounded numbers) because in the second case we would still be $1.1M under the cap, which is 25% of the $4.4M in salaries we are trading away.

Therefore, just adding another player so we can trade that player (or another veteran minimum salary) player does us no good. At this point If we want to trade for a player with a salary above $5.6M we will need to trade Outlaw plus a player (or two) with a salary above $800K, and in that case our salary cap space is no longer useful.

Finally,

3) If we add another minimum player as KP said, and therefore reduce our salary cap space to $1.1M, and trade Outlaw alone, we can take back:

$4.8M = 3.6M + 1.1M + 0.1M which is greater than 125% * 3.6M + 0.1M

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 18, 2009 5:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All agreed

My point was that adding Howard, and even another player, doesn’t really limit our flexibility much, if at all, as long as they are expiring contracts. We can just toss them in to make salaries match, and we might even have more room to work with if we do.

That is slightly less appealing to the other team, because they get another player which they may not want, but if we want to make the deal happen, we can throw in a little cash to cover those salaries.

But ultimately, taking up our cap space with one year expiring contracts does let us take back more salary, if we throw in those ECs as well. So we should not view the Howard signing as limiting KP’s flexibility at the February deadline — it may actually increase his flexibility.

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by jscot on Sep 18, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

See the Foster example below.

In that case we could get him with just cap space prior to Howard, or we could get him with Howard plus another minimum FA player added to the deal. But we could’t get him with just Howard added to the deal.

Also we have to wait until Dec 15 to trade Howard plus another signed FA, whereas we could have done the straight cap space deal on the first day of the season. Plus we probably want one or both waived players back, and we would then have to wait 30 days to re-sign them.

So there are other complications from not using the cap space.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 18, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point If we want to trade for a player with a salary above $5.6M

That puts Jeff Foster’s salary out of range, unless Howard (etc) is involved in the deal

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by two4larue on Sep 18, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Foster's salary is about $6.1M

1) Prior to the Howard signing we had $2.7M in cap space so we could have done a straight Outlaw + cap space (3.6+2.7+0.1 = 6.4) for Howard ($6.1) deal.

2) Now we can’t do an Outlaw + cap space or an Outlaw + Howard for Foster deal because can’t take back more than $5.6M in either case, as calculated above.

3) But if we sign another veteran 1 yr minimum salary player ($0.8M) then we could trade Outlaw + Howard + new player (125% * [3.6 + 0.8 + 0.8] + 0.1 = $6.6M) for Foster ($6.1). Assuming Indiana doesn’t want Howard or the new player we can also send them $1.6M as part of the deal so they can immediately waive both players at no additional cost to them.

The latter scenario is what jscot is talking about above. Although it doesn’t matter to this deal, in this particular case, because of the starting value of our cap space, we can take back a little more ($200K) by acquiring two players and trading them than if we had held onto to all of the original cap space. The catch here is that you can’t trade a free agent you signed until after Dec 15. So if any deal like this must wait.

A 2nd catch is that we may still want the free agents we traded. We could re-sign them after they were waived by Indiana, but we would have to wait for 30 days to re-sign them.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 18, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

good stuff

FYI, I copied your previous entry with all of the “Travis + 125%” numbers for future reference…I can wait until after Dec 15, let’s just hope there’s no serious injury to Greg/Joel/LMA in the meantime

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by two4larue on Sep 18, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Howard signing means this deal never happens in that form.

If Indiana were willing to just trade Foster for Outlaw then we would have told Howard that we would sign him day 2 of the season, and made this trade using the cap space on day 1 of the season. We could always add a 15th guy on day 2 also. That would be much better for us and for Indiana.

Since we can’t do that now, and since this trade couldn’t happen until the middle of Dec, I would say it’s not likely to happen without other (non-FA) players also changing hands. That opens up lots of scenarios including no deal at all, to combinations with or without requiring the remaining cap space, and with or without including the former free agents.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 18, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right

Either Indiana or KP was unwilling to do Travis for Foster.

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by jscot on Sep 19, 2009 2:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm guessing Howard got a guaranteed contract,

either because he could get one somewhere else, or because he doesn’t need the money (basketball reference.com estimates his career salary earnings as $137M) and wouldn’t sign an non-guaranteed contract and risk the indignity of getting cut.

5) But you’re correct, if it isn’t guaranteed we could cut him and recover some of the $825K depending on when he cut.

6) We couldn’t trade him until Dec 15, so it’s unlikely KP has a trade worked out that would wait that long. Also, since we would still be $1.1M under the cap, the $825K in extra salary gains almost nothing compared to the additional $825K in cap space unless we added another player besides Outlaw ($3.6M) and Howard ($0.8M) to the trade. i.e. 25% * $4.4 = $1.1M.

7) Since I believe we used GregZilla on the floor simultaneously only once last year, plus considering foul issues limiting GO’s total time, I’m not thinking that’s a viable option yet (but it would be nice if Joel could play backup PF). Plus injury issues can make everything real complicated if we don’t have a backup, or backups, that can play both center and PF.

8) LOL

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 18, 2009 3:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

6) KP has a trade worked out that needed another $1M or so in salary to send their way to balance.

That’s about all he needs to trade Outlaw for Turiaf…assuming Nellie wants Travis more than one of his few big guys

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by two4larue on Sep 18, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turiaf's salary is $4.1M.

Even after we sign a 15th player to a veteran minimum salary ($0.8M) we will still have $1.1M in cap space. That’s plenty to do a straight Outlaw + cap space (3.6+1.1 = $4.7M) for Turiaf ($4.1M) deal without including one of our vet FA’s.

But I don’t see Nellie trading Turiaf for Outlaw. Any trade for Turiaf would have to include other players that Nellie would want.

by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 18, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

and your guess is as good as mine

as to which players Nellie would want. Probably Rudy and Martell, he usually likes 3pt shooters and physical penetrators who can drive and kick

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by two4larue on Sep 18, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's unfair Broyalty. Norsk is rarely heavy handed with his opinions.

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by TwoDeep on Sep 17, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't a mean comment, he knows me

"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard

by Norsktroll on Sep 18, 2009 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

people seem to be cranky today. A mensch in the locker room and someone who knows the game on the practice floor is what this team has been needing. Now the guards can look to Miller for guidance, and the big guys to Howard. Maybe now, Nate will be freed to come up with a decent offensive strategy.

by Blazin' on Sep 17, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I CAN EXPLAIN NARCOLEPTIC ROBOT

Narcoleptic robot is the essence of internet hilarity. Love it.

And Juwan Howard significantly takes away from our character, but he also is not very good or young and is one of the few black guys who looks like out of place WITHOUT a high-top fade. All reasons sit on my hands sullenly when he is introduced. Actually I’ll boo, once, then poor whiskey from my flask into my coke, then I’ll offer that to whoever took me to the game, then shrug when they decline and say “hey, more for me…. jerk”.

by begottenson on Sep 17, 2009 3:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm confused... is this Juwan Howard Jr? Like, Juwan Howard's son or something?

We didn’t really just sign the Juwan Howard I’m thinking of, did we?

Is it 1996 again?!

by ArbyOSU on Sep 17, 2009 3:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"I think he can still play"

Anybody else think that it sounds horrible?

by Bend3r on Sep 17, 2009 3:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

well, it doesn't sound very decisive

I guess they’ll find out. I suppose they couldn’t get Juwan out on the practice floor to check Oden without a guaranteed contract

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by two4larue on Sep 17, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I thought that was funny, too. “I think”??

Don’t you figure that one out before you sign the contract? Unless you are just signing a practice dummy, of course.

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by jscot on Sep 17, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have always really not liked him for no reason other than perhaps his looks.

something about him has always rubbed me the wrong way….but I heard his interview on the radio and he actually sounded like a cool guy. I have no idea if hell be able to play though.

by tevisthe4th on Sep 17, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL that joke about jay jensen never gets old LOLOLOL

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by BlazerFan1 on Sep 17, 2009 4:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

RE the pic


awkward

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by BlazerFan1 on Sep 17, 2009 4:15 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

We just signed Juwan Howard.

Woop-De-Doo.

I sincerely doubt he’ll hurt us. And there are always trades made my playoff team with the intent of bringing in a veteran 3-4 near the trade deadline. Usually its Joe Smith getting shopped around. Maybe it’ll be Juwan Howard and Trout this year… Both have deals what expire, and both could bring something to a team needing space. And in return, we could fix one of our holes. Now, I’m not going to say what the hole is, as I have a feeling it’ll be one of those mid-season fixes. But, I thik that J. H. and Trout are extremely movable, and can bring back good talent.

by Jeremiah S on Sep 17, 2009 4:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The last time Juwan Howard got traded 2 years ago, it brought back the oversized contract of Mike James and Justin Reed

"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard

by Norsktroll on Sep 17, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You and AK1984 need to go have a drink together

so you can discuss Armageddon, I mean the signing of Juwan Howard.

by Sean M on Sep 17, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not Armageddon, I just have bad memories of him

He has made a number of teams worse. Dallas lost almost half the games he played in the regular season two years ago (22 of 50), when only losing 31 games in total while he was there. The big man situation won’t matter at all as long as LaMarcus, Greg and Joel are all healthy. If one of them goes down with an injury, it starts to get difficult. At the very least a lot of small ball. The Blazers are aware of this, otherwise they wouldn’t have gone after Millsap and Lee.

While a good guy in the community with his foundation, Howard hasn’t demonstrated much “leadership” by example in his career either. He wasn’t able to transform bad teams or push good teams over the top. And I never really bought into the concept of a “veteran player in the locker room who can’t play much but teaches the young guys”. The Blazers could have ordered Raef to sit in the locker room and at practice last year and pep talk the young players if that was the big advantage.

"I think he can still play" - Kevin Pritchard on Juwan Howard

by Norsktroll on Sep 17, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great news

This solidifies Outlaw’s permanence as back-up PF. No way Howard is getting any of those minutes (unless it’s a total blowout.) Plus it makes trading Travis impossible unless some team is willing to part with their banger PF in exchange…. I doubt that. I know that probably makes a few Outlaw haters unhappy to hear, but I’m telling you, Travis is core.

I love the team. LOADED. Quality back-ups at every position, versatility, inter-changeability, youth, maturation, with a touch of veteranship. Need it be said all quality humans as well?

I really feel that 15th guy is going to be a center.

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by bow4meow on Sep 17, 2009 4:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess

but I didn’t see the Howard signing as affecting Outlaw’s status one way or the other, unless you were expecting KP to sign a FA PF that could actually challenge Travis for minutes…it doesn’t seem like there’s too many of those FAs still out there…or at least they weren’t invited to attend Portland’s pre-camp cattle-call

If you’re gonna be “happy” with TO playing 10-12 mpg behind LMA then I guess it doesn’t take much..but I doubt #25 and his agent will be doing cartwheels. If everyone stays healthy I still expect a 1st-hlf trade involving Outlaw. Not because he’s playing poorly, but because he can’t get off the bench for his “accustomed” 25-30 mpg in a contract year> It’s not Bedgers who are gonna run him out of town, it’s Batum and Webster playing all of those SF minutes

Martell’s injury last fall just “bought Travis some more time” in Portland, but the clock’s still ticking down

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by two4larue on Sep 17, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

REC.......

I like all our guys but consolidate already.

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by We-B-Dunkin on Sep 17, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the SF glut

this is the position that might make for really unhappy campers. If not their true position, the PTB have a few guys who can either slide up (like Rudy) or down (like Travis) into that position. Add Cunningham, a guy who appears to have a future as well. So if the team decides to let go of Travis, won’t either Web or Batum be not that far behind?

Look who’s gotten the boot the past coupla years— Jack and Rodriguez— two moaners. Outlaw has always accepted his role. When has Outlaw ever complained about minutes?
I don’t think it’s in his nature to be greedy. He has verbalized (like many many athletes) aspirations of all-star caliber play. I cannot see that fostering into discontent. The other thing is Travis’ value is not going to ebb based on minutes. Everybody knows what Travis brings to the game.

This is not to rally around Travis, but I think the more likely trade bait is going include Web or Batum + Bayless (of course.)

It will be interesting to watch develop. The beauty of the current package is the PTB’s ability to hit teams with an array of different line-ups— big, small, defensive, run & gun, tempo; what it means is the PTB can force teams to match up to our guys for a change.

As to being “happy” about PT, well… winning cures a multitude of ills.

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by bow4meow on Sep 17, 2009 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Travis is a great kid

He’s not the kind of player who is going to complain. But he has high expectations for this year, and assuming everyone stays healthy it’s just very difficult to see him getting the 25-30 mpg and 10+ shots he’s been used to. That’s going to create stress for him in his contract year. He might shrug and keep his unhappiness inside, but there also may be some backchannel conversations between his agent and KP, and the Blazer’s GM may quitely try to accomodate Outlaw and deal him away for a different kind of player

As far as Webster or Batum, I think Nic is a keeper, for sure. He just brings the total package at such a young age—the sky’s the limit for him. Martell could be dealt once he’s proven he’s all the way back and healthy—his contract is good for a reserve and great if he’s a starter—but it’s not nearly as tempting to other teams as Travis’, because Outlaw’s deal is expiring at the end of June. I think Batum and Webster can coexist for a few years, and compliment each other pretty well. If Rudy is eventually dealt, Nic could backup Roy at SG and they could all get 30+ mpg and do a lot of good things with Brandon and LMA

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by two4larue on Sep 17, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In case someone didn't already mention...

…the medicine-eating robot is a reference to a Saturday Night Live sketch with Sam Waterston. Very out-of-left field-ish if you ask me.

by JusChilln345 on Sep 17, 2009 5:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm only on board with this move

if we also bring in Jimmy King and Ray Jackson.

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by SandbergOnSports on Sep 17, 2009 5:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i like it

the reason is he will bring in depth, but also this gives us the option to put outlaw at the 3 incase batum or webster get injured he can step in and be that back up 4, plus he is a vet to teach lamarcus all the moves

by BLAZERS#52 on Sep 17, 2009 6:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No. No I can't.

“Can anyone explain this?”

Dub Tee Eff?
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As for Howard, I don’t expect him to play much but he could be a good situational backup 4.
Hopefully his veteran xp will help in the locker room while still allowing the young leaders to ‘run’ the team (alongside Andre who I expect to co-run the team with Roy. LA, and Blake.)

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by DMKPDX on Sep 17, 2009 6:12 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

So he likely won't even dress most games

This isn’t a big deal one way or another.

Even so, this is the day I end my love affair with the Blazers, because they signed Juwan Howard. The man is human filth and I hope he commits vehicular homicide AGAINST HIS OWN FACE.

No way I’m rooting for a 14th man like him. NEVER.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Sep 17, 2009 7:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You shouldn't be having affairs anyways Mortimer

The PTB should be your one true (NBA) love anywho. That means you take the good with the bad… for better or worse as they say…

You stuck thru alot of tough times with the PTB … don’t quit while the gettin’s good

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by bow4meow on Sep 17, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm wondering if this is simply a move to replace Luke.

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by TwoDeep on Sep 17, 2009 8:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mo is back with the team and has resumed coaching duties… news came out a few weeks ago.

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by Cablinasian on Sep 17, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I read that

but no one seems to know about his health really, his stamina or ability to travel with the team. For Luke’s sake I hope he’s fine, but I’m sure the Blazers would be compelled to let him back on the team even if he wasn’t totally up to doing the job (for PR reasons if nothing else).

Obviously, I’m just speculating here.

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by TwoDeep on Sep 18, 2009 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In which case

it wouldn’t be really “replacing” Luke, but supplementing him since he may not be fully up to the task. I would guess there may be an element of that, since no one really knows, even if he is up to it, if he is going to continue to be able to do it.

If you might lose a coach for part of the season again, it doesn’t hurt to plug in a guy who can partially fill that role.

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by jscot on Sep 18, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

howard was used at center in dallas

that bears a wee bit of mentioning. total misuse of his strengths (mid-range jumpshot) and weaknesses (a poor rebounder and shot blocking).

Not exactly a great fit on a team that already has Dirk Nowitzki.

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