Anatomy of Portland Trail Blazers' offense in 2008-2009 season.
This fanpost has been bumped to the front page because this is a must-read. Many thanks to iverigma2 for the hours spent on this post. -- Ben
Click through for a great breakdown of various aspects of the Blazers offense last season, including video clips, analysis and more.
Blazers' offense was once a semi-hot topic around various Blazers forums including here. I've been intrigued by the arguments from both sides since the beginning and thus determined to do a film study as thoroughly as possible to help me answer these questions: What are the reasons behind Blazers' highest offensive efficiency last season? What plays did we really run except for obvious ones like Roy/Aldridge/Outlaw's 1-on-1 isolation?
I digged into about 15 Blazers game films from 2008-2009 season (including playoff) and documented, categorized & analyzed all the sets Blazers were running. After a couple months of on-and-off work I finally gathered 162 plays classified in 6 categories and put together 21 youtube video clips. Thanks to the advanced feature on the youtube, I also put in lots of annotation on the clips which would help you understand my points.
Some notes:
- Opponents & games: I focused my efforts on the late-season and especially the playoff games because the team tend to be more familiar with coach's offensive sets and have better chemistry toward the end of the season. Also the opponent would study the plays that caught them off guard during the early part of the season and prepare the counter-move, therefore the plays that still work in late season are more reliable and effective ones. I also tried to avoid blown-out portions of the games as much as possible because obviously the defensive intensity was much weaker during those stretches and that would usually make our offense look unfairly good. Based on the same reason I avoided the clips against weaker defensive teams as well. However that doesn't mean every single play in my clips was against a quality opponent under a quality situation, but I made sure those plays are the majority.
- Terminology: I started gaining more interest in X's and O's of the basketball only after I became a hard core Blazers fan so please don't mistake me as a basketball coach or some kinds of guru. What it means is you wouldn't see me using any broad terminology to "generalize" our offense system - ex. motion offense, flex offense, triangle offense...,etc. Those are too hard for me to understand and I don't like to say things that I don't fully grasp. That's why the most difficult term I use is probably "Pick and Roll" and you are welcomed to identify and point out the grand offensive schemes that some of the plays belong to.
- End result of the play: Good plays and good execution don't necessarily end up with a made basket. After all the shooter/finisher needs to put the ball in. On the other hand a missed shot doesn't always mean this play is a failure or executed poorly. Therefore lots of well-designed and well-executed plays that ended up with a missed shot were still included in my clips.
One more thing before we get to the first set - except for one clip about Roy you wouldn't find any simple, straight-up 1-on-1 isolation play in my clips because there's really nothing to show from those plays. I am more than happy to admit that a lot of Blazers' sets are actually straight-up 1-on-1 for Roy, Aldridge and Outlaw. But I'd also argue that 1-on-1 has always been (and will always be) one of the essential plays in basketball of all levels and the Blazers didn't actually call too much 1-on-1 plays compared to other teams, especially those with a superstar wing player plus a borderline all-start big man. I never believed the notion that "Blazers' only offense is 1-4 Roy isolation" and the studies below only solidified my belief.
So without further ado, let's go thru the video clips & analysis after the jump...
1. Pick and roll
One of our primary plays this season is the pick and roll (P&R), or more generally speaking, the play starting with a high screen at the top. When executed perfectly (unfortunately it happened few and far between) it led to an easy basket opportunity:
However most of the times these play didn't work quite so perfectly, either because the big man didn't roll or the guard didn't dare to pass or both. While this is definitely an area for improvement for next season, it'd be a huge mistake to write off this play just because it doesn't always result in an easy basket under the rim.
Why? Because of the 3 most important elements in the Blazers offense - spacing, spacing and spacing. Even when the P&R doesn't fully work it would usually still break the balance of the opponent's defensive scheme and make them have to scramble to recover all over the court. Good spacing and quality outside shooters would benefit from this kind of situations. Look at the Orlando Magic, Turkoglu and Howard are only half of the reason why their P&R are such a lethal weapon - the other half are their outside shooters plus spacing. Here is the first example with detailed annotations:
Another case with more complex routes:
(I uploaded another uninterrupted version here, see how it was executed smoothly.)
Now here is a big compilation of 27 similar plays. Notice how our shooters benefit from even the slightest imbalance created out of the initial P&R and shoot wide open jumper again and again. The beauty of this play is that it doesn't require any amazing 1-on-1 moves to accomplish this. When Roy was the ball handler he didn't even seem to break a sweat to open up teammates. Just solid spacing, solid passes, solid executions. This is how efficient this play and good spacing can make our offense.
A variation of P&R is "pick and pop" which I think most of the Blazers fan are very familiar with because tons of Aldridge & Outlaw's shots were generated from this play.
Let's add one more flavor to the P&R, how about fake the pick and slide inside? If the defense is caught off guard, this would essentially look like a P&R play:
2. Roy's mid-range sets
As we all know Roy is a fantastic 1-on-1 offensive weapon and to utilize that, as I mentioned earlier, we ran a lot of iso for him. But does it always mean letting Roy bring the ball across the half court to top of the arc, clear out everybody else and start a series of moves consisting of jab steps, fakes, crossovers, change-of-pace dribbles, change-of-direction dribbles... to blow past his defender? Absolutely no! If coaches let him play like that from the beginning of the game, he'd have been exhausted by the 4th quarter when we really need him.
How can Roy play at his best to help the team without burning out too quickly? Well how about letting him catch the ball as close to the rim as possible? That's where these mid-range sets come in featuring Roy coming off the screens by the big man, catching the pass and starting his offense in the low-post to elbow area (red circle below). He'd be put in an excellent mid-range position where he could shoot, drive or pass (the so called "triple threat")
As opposed to starting his offense at this position which takes much more effort to get to the rim. (Of course when Roy truly takes over a game it'd be better to do this because he can totally control the tempo and decide when to attack from this point.)
Not coincidentally, in a recent interview with Ben, Roy was quoted:
"A big thing I'm focusing on is trying to continue to improve my mid-range game. I've watched a lot of tape on Kobe, I listened to a lot of things they say about LeBron, I think that mid-range game is really, really where championships are won."
Also this is what Jason Quick said in another recent interview with Slam online:
"I know one of Brandon’s big off-season goals was to work on his game away from the ball. Coming off screens. Catch-and-shoot. Last year, one of his targets of improvement was three-point shooting and he came back much improved. I expect him to be better, therefore, at playing off the ball this season."
These, along with the addition of Andre Miller, make me believe we are gonna see more plays like this in the next season. Here is the clip:
As you can see, when defender was lagging behind chasing him around screens, Roy would catch the pass easily and did his damage. Like the following diagram shows: (numbers are position, not jersey numbers. ex. 1=PG, 2=SG, 4=PF. Circle is offense, triangle is defense, solid arrows are player movement, dash arrows are the ball movement and that little brown dot is the ball)

So what if the defense anticipates the play and tries to block Roy's route? Well then we have a very nice counter attack - lob pass to the rim.
Here is the clip for this counter move:
"But this play is very little different from just letting Roy play 1-on-1!" Some of you may be arguing now, and to a certain degree I agree. The outcome of this play does depend a lot on Roy's ability to make good decisions. But first of all, not every basketball plays are as complex as running in 3 routes, setting 5 screens and making 7 passes in order to get someone wide open under the basket. A lot of basketball plays are simply designed to put your star player in a good 1-on-1 situation so that he can exploit the match-up more easily. Those plays are usually simple but not necessarily easy to execute well and it still relies on the star player's 1-on-1 ability to score or create. Secondly, without this play Roy's touches would've come from either high pick-and-roll (or isolation without a screen), which is not something you want to run for him all night, or spot-up outside shots, which is grossly inefficient compared to other aspects of Roy's game. I believe this off-the-ball mid-range set is an excellent balance between fully utilizing his talent to help the team win and not exhausting him too early.
One more note about Roy's isolation plays: Even for those straight up 1-on-1 without off-the-ball movement, NOT all of them were as exhausting as you'd think. In fact many times when he only half-started his move he would already find the open teammates. This could be attributed to his ability to draw double-team, his vision, unselfishness and, again, great spacing of our outside shooters. Do those plays have anything to do with coach's X's and O's? No, they are rather instinctive read-and-reaction by Roy. But don't you agree those neat, efficient and not very energy-consuming iso plays are the ones we all love to see more?
3. 1-2-2 sets
[UPDATE] from kpelton's comments:
The 1-2-2 set is probably best termed a “horns” set. That’s the general name for when you see two big men up high, both of them in position to set a screen for the ballhandler. You might call this particular version a “horns flat” because both wing players are “flat” along the baseline.
[UPDATE] Tince's comments:
The 1-2-2 offense you didn’t know the name of is simply a modified version of the FLEX offense. You can tell because there is a weakside screen set on the opposite block with the hope to get a backdoor layup or a clean look at the elbow.
Ok the name is made up by me but I really had a hard time matching this one to any particular plays in the common basketball playbooks. I called it 1-2-2 because it usually starts with one player at the top, two players at the high post and two players at the corner.
This play would generate multiple options from the screens set between O1, O2 and O4 in the low-post area and O5 would be the passer at the high post. It starts with O1 passing to O4 then to O5. O1 cut inside the paint and prepare to set a pick.
First option is O2 to cut across the key off O1's screen.
Second option is O1 to come off O4's screen and catch & shoot. 
If the first two options don't pan out, O4 would turn around and post up.
Here is the video clip. You can find some minor variation of this play with different personnel & routes.
4. Screen plays
I apologize for the poor name again but I really don't know what these plays are supposed to be called. Basically it features a wing player curling around a series of screens, coming out to catch the pass and deciding to either shoot, drive or pass. We see this play ran mostly for Rudy but it'd been ran for Outlaw and Roy as well. Here are the clips with a bunch of annotations:
- Rudy off screens:
- Outlaw off screens. I think we ran this play a little more often than people remember.
If both of them are good at this, why not run them off the screens at the same time? You got it:
(note that at the end I put 2 examples of good continuity offense - meaning they knew what to do next when the initial play didn't pan out and calmly executed it.)
- Roy's screen plays. Admittedly some of them look similar to the "mid-range sets" I talked about earlier.
5. Post plays
The ability to score inside remains as one of the most important quality of a modern NBA team. Even though we're essentially a jump shooting team (but this has been improved) we still have several plays focusing on getting easy baskets inside the paint in addition to just posting Aldridge/Oden up and throwing them the ball.
- Cross screens in the post. Cross screens by big men inside to free up one of them - usually Oden. It's pretty straightforward so I'd just let the video (plus some notes) speak for itself:
- Hi-Lo post plays. This is another play designed for post players to work together, usually involves a player at high-post passing to the player at low-post. It could be combined with the aforementioned cross-screen play (as the 1st segment of the following clip would show). It could be used when the post player is fronted (as the 2nd segment would show). But IMO the most powerful and effective usage is to run P&R with this Hi-Lo play, as the final three segments would show. Think about how Dwight Howard usually scores off Magic's P&R offense. As a matter of fact it doesn't happen very often that Howard would just roll into the paint, find no defenders around, get the pass and dunk. His opportunity usually comes when he rolls inside and uses his agility and strength to seal the defender who just hurries back to cover him. Meanwhile the Magic player who uses his pick (usually at the wing) may not have the angle to pass, but he can just pass to his teammate who has a better angle (usually at the high post) - to deliver the ball to Howard. Hi-Lo play is particularly effective for Blazers because Aldridge & Oden are already legitimate threats at high-post & low-post respectively. We have an efficient P&R offense thanks to our great outside shooting and spacing, but if Aldridge and Oden can master this play, they can add even more options to our P&R attack and make it a much more dangerous offense. Aside from the P&R play in which Oden rolls inside and actually get the ball, this P&R + Hi-Lo play is the one I want to see added to the Blazers' playbook the most in the next season.
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(more on Hi-Lo sets can be found at The Coach's clipboard - an excellent basketball playbook website. Some of the plays are similar to what I mentioned above)
- Inside-out. Post player draws double-team and passes out to the open shooter. A simple and classic post play. But again some flavors were added by the Blazers coaching staff. First one is used when O4 has the ball in low-post, O1 at top of the arc. D1 cheats off O1 and semi-double-team O4 in the hope of forcing O4 to pass out and recovering back to O1 in time. O5 recognizes this, comes up to screen D1 and meanwhile O4 passes to O1 to have a wide open jumper.
This variation and other basic inside-out plays are shown in the following clip:
Second variation is even simpler. O1 made the entry pass and cut to the corner but somehow D1 expects him to cut to the weak-side along the baseline - either due to misread or defensive lapse (sometimes a little fake cut by O1 is needed to fool him). So now O1 sits in the corner alone and get the ball back from O4 to shoot a wide open three.
BONUS PLAY: this is IMO Aldridge's BEST post move all season. It's not a set play but it's so awesome I have to put it here. I really hope he can do something like that much more often next season.
6. Other simple plays
The last two kinds of plays - "cut without the ball" and "drive & kick" - are again simple but effective. However it's hard to categorize them and it would be interesting to know if these plays entirely depend on players' senses of read-and-reaction, or belong to a larger offensive schemes. But anyhow both of them tend to generate easy baskets.
- Cut without the ball: Note that this is different from the aforementioned "screen plays" even though they both emphasize off-the-ball movement. The latter are designed set plays, the former look more like players reading the defense and sneaking behind his man to the basket. The master of this play on our team is no doubt Rudy Fernandez. He and Sergio have done perhaps 30 times of "Spanish Armada" throughout the season and hopefully it can continue without Sergio. Other than Rudy, Batum is pretty good at cutting as well, which is rather impressive given his young age and inexperience. Here is the clip:
- Drive & Kick: Like I said many times earlier, our shooters are accurate and know how to space the floor. If occasionally one of them can drive instead of jacking it up from outside, that would make our offense more dynamic and effective. That's the so-called "drive and kick". Note that Roy's isolation play also often ends up looking like drive & kick but that's obviously not what I want to talk about here. So the following clip doesn't include any "Roy doing it all" plays, he might initiate a few of them but definitely not dominate in any. Again it's debatable if this play belongs to the "player's basketball instinct" category or a grand offensive scheme like "Dribble-Drive Motion offense". However I am fairly certain the answer lies somewhere in between, that is, it depends on the coach's offensive system to create opportunities to drive & kick (same for cut) but on the other hand it's up to players to read the situation and make good decisions instantaneously on the basketball court.
What we've seen from time to time last season is our offense becoming stagnant with hardly any movement and relying too much on 1-on-1. Therefore hopefully we can see more plays like those to generate easy baskets in the next season. I expect to see improvements in this area given the personnel addition (Andre Miller), young guys' "organic growth" and coaching staff's intelligence.
So how did these analysis help me answer the questions I asked in the beginning of this post? In short, Roy's awesomeness and entire team's incredible offensive rebounding rate are no doubt two major reasons for the offensive efficiency number. But the offensive system that McMillan and assistant coaches have installed for the team is an equally, if not more, important factor. It features spacing, simplicity and discipline. It puts players in positions where they know how to operate. It looks easy but I'm sure hard to be executed well. It's far from a perfect offensive system but I doubt anyone could argue against its effectiveness and efficiency.
I do see some areas for improvement, though. First of all I'd like to see more plays resulting in inside shots rather than outside jumpers. Like Oden's roll to the hoop in the P&R, Batum and LMA's cut to the basket, Rudy's drive when he is wide open...etc. Secondly I'd like to see our guards - especially Blake and Roy - making more risky passes to the paint, especially to Oden. I am optimistic about the improvement in the next season because of the reasons stated above (Andre Miller & organic growth)
What do you think about my study? Do I miss or understate anything? Do I over-emphasize a certain points? I hope this post can be a starting point, followed by more in-depth analysis and comments from all of you BEdgers.
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Wow..
This is amazing. I can’t even imagine the amount of work that went into this. Great work and thank you!
by GhostFacePryzbilla on Sep 1, 2009 10:11 AM PDT reply actions
haven’t read it all yet (I will!), but giving you a preemptive rec based on the sheer amount of effort put into this
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
+1
I think it will take me about a week to get through it all, but I am going to do it. Seeing Blake call out LMA while setting a pick for him was a fantastic little touch that I believe is the reason he stays on the court.
It wasn't the first time I'd been kicked in the cherries and called a rat by a woman, but it was the first time I didn't mind.
Wow
thanks!
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
Excellent, excellent research
A couple of quick notes: I think what you’re calling the “pick and slide” is generally termed slipping the pick, or a pick and slip.
The 1-2-2 set is probably best termed a “horns” set. That’s the general name for when you see two big men up high, both of them in position to set a screen for the ballhandler. You might call this particular version a “horns flat” because both wing players are “flat” along the baseline.
When KP2 is praising your research,
You’ve done some good work.
I feel smarter about the team after reading this post. However, I also feel lazier because I can’t remember the last time I was able to create something this complete about any subject, which makes me feel bad about myself.
Ah, what the heck. You still get a rec.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
The pick and slide
is recognition, not a designed play, really. The man setting the pick realizes that his defender has recognized the pick coming, and is cheating out on the play to stop the man coming around the pick. So he simply says, “Hey, there is actually no one between me and the basket, because he is cheating, so I think I’ll just mosey on in there towards the hoop and see what happens.” It’s really just one of the options out of the pick and roll.
The key to the pick and roll is recognizing what the opponent is giving you (they have to give up something) and exploiting it. That is why experience matters — the more you’ve seen something, the more quickly you recognize and make the right response to make them pay.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
Last paragraph very true
Which is why the longer Nate is the coach, the longer the team will practice this and gain experience recognizing what the defense is leaving for them.
Indeed
this is more recognition than a play. When the off-ball defender “hedges” the screen, to stop dribble penetration, the man screening (LMA, GO, or Joel usually) can “slip” the screen and dive to the basket, in effect not screening at all, but opening himself up for an easy bucket
One other thought on this
that you didn’t mention, but might want to.
Sometimes, the man comes to set the pick, the defender recognizes it is coming and shifts slightly in that direction, to give himself an extra half a step in trying to fight through the screen. And at times, the man with the ball doesn’t go around the screen, but goes the other way.
Brandon did this once in one of your clips, and the announcer said he didn’t use the screen. That’s not really true. The defender shifted because of the screen coming from the left, and that shift gave Brandon the half step he needed to go right.
Once again, it is recognizing what the defense is giving you and taking advantage of it.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
great work
thanks a TON. this is fantastic
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Great job!
The only thing I can add is that as the maturation process grows,the reigns get looser and the horse is allowed more decision making.Our late 80s teams are a example but it WASNT overnight.All offensive sets need tweeking from year to year due to personal matters and predictibilty(by the playoffs sets and tendencys are largely solved )The challenge is to keep them unpredictable and at its best the defense beats itself regularly.
This should be on the front page.
I havent finished all of it, but it’s still REALLY fun to read. Beats doing college apps. hahaha
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
If this hadn't gone front page it might have been the most recced post ever.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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I haven't gotten all the way through this yet...
but I knew I’d be reccing it after the first paragraph.
You could have just as effectively opened with something like “Even though it meant abandoning the family including our faithful, sad eyed puppy dog, quitting my job and living out of my car (well actually somebody else’s car since mine was repossessed), I realized that my committment to the Blazers now all consuming and the focus of my life…my destiny if you will.”
A+ for effort.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on Sep 1, 2009 11:35 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Might be the best post of the summer.
Up there with timbo’s stuff.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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Reluctant Rec
This would have been easier for me if you had made it a 21 part series. I look forward to watching every video and reading every word; at the same time, it almost feels like Blazers Edge homework.
No fair!
I didn’t get to take Blazers Breakdown in school. Where did you go to school, Tom?
I got my NBA in Sporticulture from the Rose Garden
by p.r.o.o.f.PTB on Sep 3, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
If every team had fans researching in this amount of detail
Memphis could fire all their scouts.
by unemployedreflection on Sep 1, 2009 2:12 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Amazing Work!
Can’t wait to dig in deeper. This reminds me of what I used to do with my baseball cards as a kid, except it’s way more useful and somebody else would actually care. Well done.
feels like I just got an advanced degree
in basketball playcalling. AWESOME post.
One thing I take from this – I see why McMillan might want to start Blake and Pryzbilla. The PG ends up with an open jumpshot in a lot of these plays, and that’s Blake’s forte more than Miller. Oden just needs to get up to speed on the offense – Pryz never seemed lost out there, while Oden did at times. We’ll see how that shapes up during training camp.
Whoa, very nice.
"The playoffs now are my grind. My grind for a championship,'' Roy said. "Whatever needs to be done to get there I'm gonna do it.''
Just had to come down and say "very nice!"
Now I’m going back to read it all. Lots of in-depth stuff, it’s going to take me time to digest it all.
μὴ φοβοῦ, μόνον πίστευε.
too busy
highlights for every game was really too time-consuming for me. plus some other mysterious reasons… I stopped the work on Blazersclips.com and most likely will not continue. I’ll probably do some more X’s and O’s film study in the coming season though.
I am giddy...
glad to be praised like this by you. thanks Ben!
YOU ARE FAMOUS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"And our second unit can probably start in most NBA cities." -Maurice Lucas
very nice iver
love your vids and what happened to blazerclips.com?
Trade for Luis Amundson!!Do it KP!!
highlights for every game was really too time-consuming for me. plus some other mysterious reasons… I stopped the work on Blazersclips.com and most likely will not continue. I’ll probably do some more X’s and O’s film study in the coming season though.
Now I get it
you’re exhaustion after putting together one of the most educational/entertaining posts of the ages caused you to reply to the wrong person.
Thanks for the video lesson. I learned a lot about hoops and am now itching for more Blazers, c’mon October.
Congrats
not only did Dave give you front page presence, but Henry at Truehoop gave you top billing in today’s bullets. You are King/Queen of Blazer coverage for this week.
NBA coverage
If anything better comes out on the league as a whole in the next month, I’ll be surprised.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
Some (probably too hasty) observations from the video footage
1. I was amazed how often the Blazers sets produced wide open threes. Helps explain why Blake, Batum, and Rudy shot so well from distance.
2. The Blazers struggled with the 1-2-2 or “horns” set quite a bit. The concept of the play seems fine, but it rarely generated good looks.
3. One of my favorite sets with what you called “Roy midrange.” Roy is really difficult to guard with a live dribble and does a great job finding open players when double. Reminds me of what the Lakers do with Kobe . I’d definitely like to see more of it. Perhaps its success is one of the reasons it’s become a point of emphasis for Roy in the off-season…. I also loved Rudy catching and creating off of screens. His vision is really impressive.
The two other sets that looked especially effective
were the cross screens for the bigs and basket cuts. Oden looked quite a bit more comfortable score when getting the ball off of cross screens than other situations. I’d like to see several of these a game to get Oden in the flow.
The basket cut isn’t really a play so much as a read off of any given play, but it inspired me to cut to the basket more when I play.
totally agree with #2
I think one of the problem is our screens were often half hearted ones without actually blocking anybody.
Awesome work
Rec’d
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Sep 1, 2009 5:35 PM PDT reply actions
R-E-C
Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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If I were Nate
I would want this taken down off the Internet right away. :)
Great post.
Did anyone notice how hard Rudy’s man has to work when he’s running around those screens? Rudy can so easily go any one of three directions, and his man has to try to be in position to cover all three.
More High-Low, please.
More off the ball screens.
Fewer Roy isos. Get him the ball in good position off a screen every time.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
Holy crap
I am conflicted:
1. Rec for an AWESOME post
2. Dude—you are helping out the other teams too much…..shhhhhhhh….we want to sneak up on em, and spank em.
Reno, Nevada is west of Los Angeles.
by RenoBlazerFan on Sep 1, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
P.S.
53 recs— You are my hero. Until Norsky rolls out his new spreadsheet, anyway…
Reno, Nevada is west of Los Angeles.
by RenoBlazerFan on Sep 1, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks, iverigma2
This is a trememdous analysis! We can learn a lot.
Only, like a couple people have already said, I’m a little worried that our opponents can learn a lot too .. although I know every team has scouts and analysts breaking down game film.
Still .. great job. And thanks.
Yeah, I was joking
Our opponents have highly skilled people looking at the same game films. Iverigma2 did a great job, but he’s not a pro like they have.
Besides, knowing the various options and being able to stop them are two different things. And this year, there will be new variations because of the development of our rookies, the return of Martell, and the addition of Andre.
Remember that 24 point quarter from Martell? Imagine if you have him and Rudy running off of screens like that at the same time.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
by jscot on Sep 1, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Blake is good at hitting people coming off screens. Martell/Rudy with Blake feeding them could be deadly.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
Thanks, jscott ..
It’s nice to be reassured by the voice of perspective. Yes, knowing the plays and stopping them are two different things.
Yes
And just imagine how tired the opposing wing players get chasing them around — and then Brandon comes back in for Rudy. That kind of offense can force the opposing starter to sit down while Rudy is in the game, which helps on the defensive end as well. I hope we see a lot of that.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
If I were the Oregonian....I'd fire Canzano and hire iverigma2
it seriously bothers me that hack like John Canzano gets paid for his garbage
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Sep 1, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think all future clips of the Blazers' offense
should come from games against the Lakers. And it should show us scoring every time. Somehow, it makes it feel that much more satisfying.
Fantastic post!
by dlewis22 on Sep 1, 2009 7:07 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
good golly miss molly this is sick
and the clips of oden dominating in that stretch during game 3 on the P&Rs made me smile.
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
I'm like 45 minutes into it... and I needed to take a break - I will finish in the morning
=Not a speed reader…
Big D from Blog-A-Bull - "Pritchard is such a genius that teams just give him players for free."
Greg Oden - The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 400 rebounds, and 65 blocks in under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Sep 1, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS IS EPIC
I think this deserves a permanent link in the sidebar. If only CSN could incorporate this information on a game by game basis to educate fans. I LOVE IT!
Senior Asian ambassador of Blazers Edge
Blazer's fans
Craziest of the bunch! Can you imagine any other fans going to this length to study their team? Crazy.
This isn't studying "our team"
This is studying basketball. I would bet there are high school coaches calling their players and telling them to look at the film in this post, to show how effective off-the-ball screens at unexpected times, and double screens, and the pick and roll, can be.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
good stuff...
just wondering how u got all those games. I would love to go back and watch some full games from last season. Is there a place online to do so?
Simply the best basketball post I've ever seen here or anywhere else!
Someone should give you a job doing this (if you wanted one).
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Sep 1, 2009 8:16 PM PDT reply actions
incredible.
it’s like being invited to a team film session. so nice, i’d rec it twice.
GG MFer!
-joel przybilla
21 homemade youtube videos!?!
i’m this close to creating three more screen names just to rec it three more times.
GG MFer!
-joel przybilla
by hossticles on Sep 1, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great post, still haven't read it all. That will take a while. Nice job though. I've been
going to your youtube channel for a while for Blazer highlights. Hope you keep up with that this up coming year.
Impressive
however, I am unable to open the videos. What is the video format and is there a program I need to download to view them? It may have been deleted by mistake.
I look forward to viewing them as preparation for the new season. Thanks.
Truly amazing.
Iverigma, thank you. What a wonderful undertaking. We are enriched by you.
Bedge or go home.
thank you
This was amazing. This post and the geneology of the history of Blazers moves were the best two ever. The thoughtfulness of the posters here makes me love this site. After studying these videos, I think even I could be a point guard in this league.
rec, great work
now I know why the Grizz laid off their scouting/mascot/whatever department, they’re just gonna hire you. This is pro stuff mate. Thanks.
1-2-2
The 1-2-2 offense you didn’t know the name of is simply a modified version of the FLEX offense. You can tell because there is a weakside screen set on the opposite block with the hope to get a backdoor layup or a clean look at the elbow.
This is the best post I’ve ever read for any sport on any website. Props to you!
Someone has to say it
This was a very good post, and I don’t mind sticking my neck out and claiming that I enjoyed it very much.
Others might tip toe around the situation, make sure it is “okay” to like something, but I prefer to lead the pack.
This was awesome.
Mortimer
You're just showing off
by using words like awesome, when really it was only fantabulous.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
Wow.
This is amazing. I’ll comment again after I read and digest everything, but I just wanted to jump in and say great job. This is insane.
Source Videos?
First of all, excellent post. This is amazing.
But where did you get film of all the games? I have been wanting to study Blazers film like this for some time, but the biggest problem is that the full games are not available anywhere. That is, they aren’t available anywhere I have looked.
Is there a website or torrent tracker somewhere that has all the NBA games, or is this a private collection that you created throughout the season?
downloaded from bit torrent. email me for details
not sure if it’s appropriate to talk about it publicly…
It's like having access to the logged and cued video files of the Blazers or Synergy. Great collection.
There's Gotta Be More To Life
Not only does this make me feel like I understand basketball now
but it provided me with much-needed Blazers footage. I want to make another account, because rec’ing only once seems unfair.
Honor Alaa Abdelnaby.
First in the NBA. At least alphabetically
It took me a good 2 hours to go through it
and i read pretty quickly, but there was no way i could just watch some of those videos once or twice. great post. I, like a few others on here, really want to know where i can watch some full games from last season. this would make the rest of this off season go by a lot quicker.
ditto
wow. I will enjoy the season more and see the game better because of this post. amazing.
So who’s going to do this for defense?
Outstanding work
and I’ve bookmarked several of those Brandon Roy videos for the next time I attempt to illustrate the full cost (e.g. drafting Shelden Williams rather than Roy because Roy was considered “too similar” to Johnson rather than the more accurate “younger, cheaper, and better”) to the Hawks of acquiring Joe Johnson.
Joel and Steve
seem to be masters of this system. The seem to have so much recognition of how the defense is responding. They also are willing to play the roles that get no credit. It’s great to break some of these plays down to find the hidden factors, the third guy in the play screening for the guy setting the pick, etc.
Another note: Who else noticed that Oden shoves the guy right after he sets the pick?
Joel and Steve
are veterans and have played in Nate’s system for a while now. Steve is a student of the game. Joel knows his role and goes after it.
Andre didn’t know why the Blazers are so high on Steve. As he learns all the off the ball things that Nate wants, and sees Steve doing them so consistently, it will make sense to him.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
yeah I noticed that too
Joel often is the guy to set the key screen to open up the whole play. Steve’s strength is reading defense and moving to make himself open when he doesn’t have the ball.
Oden pushing
Yeah, I noticed that too. If I see it, you can bet that one of the three refs sees it. How many of GO’s “rookie” fouls were from this sort of silly transgression? He doesn’t need to do that. He’s big and strong enough to simply turn in place and lean against his man or to set a wide stance so that his man has to go through him to get the rebound?
This. Is. Awesome.
started reading late last night (i’m on east coast time) and fell asleep in my chair after an hour. finished this morning. really great stuff.
And in the midst of all the awesomeness I noticed something that reminded me of what I perceived in LMA last year as a troubling tendency. I found it, ironically, in the post of LMA’s Best Move Ever…
In the clip LMA gets the ball in the post and sets, looking L into the lane. the couple of second’s hesitation allows his defender to set, and although LMA still scores with a beautiful, gorgeous, awesome, emphatic, “call me soft? Really?? you talkin to me??? Soft THIS!” move and dunk over Yao, he couldve made it easier on himself.
When he received the ball, he didn’t recognize that the baseline on his R was wide open. an IMMEDIATE move spin AWAY from the lane and toward the basket via the baseline wouldve led to a more open, easier shot.
I remember seeing this countless times during the season. LMA would forgo the immediate move to the open spot (usually baseline) and instead would hold the ball for a second to settle himself in the post and eventually make his move INTO the lane which was usually where the DEF was more present…
now, despite this, LMA obviously did pretty damn well last year, but i salivate when i think of how much more effective he could be if he made a few more immediate decisions in the post.
Uunderstand i have no actual evidence that this happens regularly, but my memories of these occurances are myriad.
Do you know what I’m talking about, and have you seen it to be a tendency of LMA? or am i just being a nit picking lame-o..?
again, this post is awesome.
you may in fact be god.
:)
I'd still honk once!
Again, we're talking experience
LMA is extremely talented, but doesn’t yet recognize those opportunities you are describing. Over time, he will.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
LMA waits for his defender
He often does that in the post. I think he’s programmed to not make a move until the defender is in position. He’s a pretty mechanical player with the ball. Off the ball, he is more fluid.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Wow
I understand the play and flow a lot better now. If I wasn’t so old I’d feel confident enough to try to be a walk on for the Blazers.
I know it’s been said already but we know you’ll never tire of it – thanks so much for your work.
I am in AWE
You have done a great service for the fans breaking down the offense. You may not be used to terms such as motion offense, but you certainly understand and can convey how the offense works. Thank you!
Has the season started yet?
one of the best things I've ever read period
thanks for your work. Bravo.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
magic fan here,
loyal reader of 3QC, but this is one of the best bball blog posts i’ve maybe ever read. great, great stuff here.
www.last.fm/user/mhetrick04
And Congratulations!
Your blog is the first bullet today in Abbot’s TrueHoop Wednesday’s Bullets. Your blog’s a national phenom!
Uh oh, now everyone really is going to know the secrets...
Very cool though!
Absolutely amazing!
I’m sad that I can only give you one rec for this. I feel as though I have been given a framework for being able to watch the Blazer’s offense this coming season to enjoy it all the more.
I just wanna say
that Blazersedge is the best blog site in the world. It really is. We (although I’m hesitant to include myself in this) are the smartest sports fans. It’s amazing how much interest can still be retained in the off season with amazing posters like Ivergima2. Ivergima, I watched your videos frequently on youtube. I just wanna take you for your hard work and love for the Blazers. Dave and Ben are the luckiest bloggers in the world.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
Greak work iverigma2!
I just want to add something to your description of those Roy elbow isolations. Defenders cannot handcheck above the foul line extended. When Roy catches the ball in the triple-threat position, it only takes one step to get to the rim and the defender cannot overload to one side or handcheck to slow Roy down.
This is a bread and butter play. For some reason the Cavs have yet to figure this out and continue to force Lebron to start near half-court. Barkley has been complaining about this for a couple years now.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
The media told me that Mike Brown was a great coach. Are you saying that they’re lying?
…
On a side note, it’s kind of funny to see him start at midcourt and kamikaze through the paint.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
Maybe Lebron isn't as adept at curling around picks
Compare him to Roy’s playing style. Roy is more subtle and sneaky. He uses a lot of hesitation moves. Lebron is more like a freight train. He’s amazingly quick for his size, but he still needs some room I think to run. Lebron James doesn’t go around people; he goes through people.
The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.
Kings fan
WOW
Jaw. On. The. Floor. This is the post of the summer, if not the year so far. I’m bookmarking it for future reference. Thank you SO MUCH!!! This is exactly the kind of thing I wish I could do on my own…I feel proud of myself just for noticing when Travis fails to rotate on defense (which is, like, every other time down the court). Marvelous work. We Blazer fans are so spoiled!
Besides adding my accolades to all the others ...
… I just want to point out to all those people who believe that Nate McMillan is a middling coach at best that this should be enough to show just how well coached this team is.
Now add in these guys becoming more experienced, then consider what effect a Greg Oden with a better offensive game will have and you should see what I am sure Nate sees – an offense that steam rolls opponents on night when it is clicking and keeps the team in the game even when it is not.
hakkaa päälle !
I signed up for an account
Just so I could tell you how amazing your post is. I just learned more about the blazers offense in the last 2 hours than I have in 5 years of reading Canzano. A must read for any true basketball fan!
Wow
I’m surprised and impressed.
I would have thought that anyone who read Canzano for five years would have been made so dumb that they wouldn’t understand this post.
If you’ve withstood the Canzano effect, you must have been really, really smart to start with.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
If you read Clownzano for 5 years to learn about basketball.
You wasted 5 years! I have been on BEdge for only about 8 months & this is the best post I have seen. Nice job Iverigma!
He did it! Yes he did!
This is a lesson for my wife
I literally used your post to help teach my wife to appreciate basketball. It’s like a clinic. Well done, sir!
Buck Williams for the hall of fame
REC, REC, REC
My unworthy “THANK YOU VERY MUCH” is all I have to offer.
Oh Heck, REC again!
As I said before, I never repeat myself.
Fantastic work
What you are calling a 1-2-2 seems to me to be the basic Princeton or UCLA shuffle of John Wooden’s very long Heyday. Good high low picks with the occasional switch pick across the lane. I always hope I get guys in a pick up game that at least understand that much. I learned a lot from your post and I am an x and o’s guy!
Very Cool.
RoadBlazer
Thank you so much
for the great content. Especially in this blazer-drought offseason. thank you again.
Gettin me pumped
Great post dude. The best part about the well-executed plays that ended up with missed shots was that so many of them were shots typically missed by younger, less experienced players. (Except maybe Prizbilla, who coincidentally still had the best offensive season of his career last season). The main thing is they were able to find their stroke. I’m going to finish reading your post now.
by wheresBlazerBill on Sep 2, 2009 7:39 PM PDT reply actions
FANtastic. This year's gonna be fun...
Ditto…
I hope next year’s post will contain a section of ‘fast break clinics’ run by Dre and Co.
(BTW, that’s when I will consider Nate a great coach – if he shows in addition to being able to teach slow down half court to a young team, he is then able to teach them how to run!)
Forgot...
Meant to say that, if this group can figure out a way to run, then when the other team gets back, this great half court set is ready to operate…
um... archive this and ...uh... get this guy a job.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
"New Man Law: If you don't show up for the draft you don't get to come later if you're picked. If you believe in yourself, show up and sit there. If nobody else believes in you, take it and cry like a man...in front of the cameras."
-Dave
Pick and roll?
is it just me or do our big men “roll” the wrong way the majority of the time? As a kid, I was taught to set the pick, then “roll with” the ballhandler so that you’ve got the “picked” player on your back and have a free lane to the hoop. I coach middle-schoolers the same way. Maybe the NBA game moves so fast that the typical “pick and roll” can’t be executed as it should? Seems like our bigs would have even more opportunities if they rolled the right way.
Then again, maybe I’m just too old school? What do the experts say?
by hellsfrozenover on Sep 3, 2009 12:34 PM PDT reply actions
Thank you!
I thoroughly enjoyed — and appreciated — iverigma2’s handiwork. thanks!!
With either GO or LMA, I hope we can get the P&R going even more than previous years. especially given Andre Miller getting most of the time at the point. For 15 years it was unstoppable at Utah with Stockton & Malone even though everyone knew it was coming virtually every trip down the court. Why? Because with a simple 2-on-2 game there are so many options that are available when the play is executed properly that the defense can’t possibly take them all away. Not that the Blazer bigs are on the level of Karl Malone (yet), but the nice thing is that, should the play break down, the Blazers have more weapons that Utah of the ’90s, so getting a deuce or trey is still a good bet. It all starts with having a point guard who is ready, willing, and able to play the two-man game.
wowzer
This would be impressive if it came from Nate McMillian himself. Very well done and almost unbelievable for an ‘average fan’.
Incredible post
This is already linked all over the Intertubes and has even been Metafiltered. Well-deserved, too. If I weren’t allergic to learning, I’m sure I’d study it in detail.
It's taken me days to get through this. I've watched many of the
clips over and over, stopping at certain points to get a better idea of positioning, who’s where, etc. This is absolutely the most informative and educational post I’ve seen at the Bedge or any other site and it has certainly raised my BBIQ. Thank you so much!
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
Psha
Just as Travis will never raise his BBIQ for obvious reasons, you can’t raise yours because you are of the female gender.
rec
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
Fulsomely FLAGGED, my Flatulent Farouk.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
My flatulence
is probably not a topic for Bedge.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
You are too modest, oh Magnificent Mogul!
Your every voluminous vapor is noteworthy.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
It has been known to draw attention, I must say
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
One thing I don't understand about the 1-2-2/"Horns" sets
Why is the center out holding the ball 20’ away from the basket while the PF is under the basket setting screens? If you look at the personnel we have, if Oden or Przybilla have the ball 20’ away from the basket they really can’t do anything except pass. Neither of them are any threat to shoot or put the ball on the floor, which means that their defender can sag off them and do whatever he wants. If Aldridge was the one holding the ball while Oden/Przybilla took his place as the player who operates under the basket setting screens, it would open up a bunch of new options for the offense and make the play more difficult to defend.
if Aldridge were holding the ball 20 feet from the hoop, that would mean that the third option on the play would be Przybilla/Oden curling to the ball to post up on the low block. If Oden develops his post game, that’s a very effective option. It’s not playing to Joel’s strengths, though.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.

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