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Check this out.  Mock Drafts cripple a franchise.  Isn't this the next logical step in the evolution of hands-on media making news as much as reporting it?  Does anyone else get the impression that pro sports are morphing slowly but surely into American Idol?  Plus...isn't this guy a nutcake?

Watch out next time you make your pre-draft predictions.  You could be working over your favorite team.

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mock drafts don't ruin a franchise

Players like Crabtree being an arrogant SOB ruin a franchise. You may think you deserved to go higher, but the bottom line is you didn’t.

You want a bigger paycheck? Go out and earn it.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Aug 6, 2009 11:35 PM PDT reply actions  

But I did earn it!

I sang way better than Sanjaya and 48% of the people thought so! This is bogus, man! Bogus!

—Dave

by Dave on Aug 6, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

(Shaking my head at my pathetic Raiders)

That being said….that is why there is so much talk of adopting a rookie salary scale like the NBA has.

"I'm tired" -Me

by 92wastheyear on Aug 6, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea

I think pay scales give some Law and Order to teams. These big shot rookies get paid more than vets, and they haven’t played ONE NFL game. The instant gratification that is demanded by my generation really undermines the idea of a building a team.

by kajuayn on Aug 6, 2009 11:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Plus…isn’t this guy a nutcake?

That’s exactly what I thought when I read the article. I don’t know anything about NFL salaries, though. Craziness.

Still on the Rex bandwagon.

by dan_the_man on Aug 6, 2009 11:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Nutcake is a new bit of slang for me.

But I’m pretty sure I agree with it. Sucks for the 49ers that they have such an unintelligent guy. On the other hand, he might be easy to trick into taking less money for some other nonsense reason.

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.

by staylost on Aug 7, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was a terrible column

Crabtree is worth what a team is willing to pay him. It doesn’t matter where he went in the draft. How about when a left tackle is drafted first and a quarterback drafted after him gets paid more money? The tackle was drafted first, so he should be paid more by this logic.
You have to factor in how much a player will want on their contract when you draft them. One of the reasons that the Seahawks might have passed on Mark Sanchez and chose Aaron Curry was because he will be cheaper to sign.
Last year Matt Ryan was chosen 3rd overall and got the largest contract with the most guaranteed money. He proved in college that he was worth that kind of money, just as Crabtree proved while he was in college. If the 49ers don’t think Crabtree is worth it, they can simply trade him for a player more to their liking.

by KitIsh on Aug 6, 2009 11:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Not so fast...

Gonna have to disagree with the opening statement: “Crabtree is worth what a team is willing to pay him”

Only because teams usually don’t end up paying a player what they perceive their worth to be, they pay a player what they need to so that they’ll sign a contract and play for their team, at the (presumably) lowest cost that they can- which usually turns out to be higher than the initial offer. Agents, and their unfortunate success at driving up costs, are part of the reason for this.

I don’t know, I swear this made more sense in my head. I just don’t like the use of the word “worth”.

by Heathos33 on Aug 7, 2009 1:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never wish injury or bad fortune on anyone.

That said, he is just asking to have some awful, career-ending injury in this next year.

I heart taxes.

by everett on Aug 7, 2009 12:12 AM PDT reply actions  

True. Tempting fate is dangerous.

I feel like Rubio is in a similar boat.

Still on the Rex bandwagon.

by dan_the_man on Aug 7, 2009 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

care

to explain your analogy?

oversea'er

by arnhem on Aug 7, 2009 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whats to explain?

Rubio wouldn’t even try out for cities he didn’t think were good enough. He has (or seems to have, thanks to the media) a very similar arogant attitude.

by In Walks Rudy on Aug 7, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a ground-breaking, if intellectually bankrupt, concept.

"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw

by Norsktroll on Aug 7, 2009 1:27 AM PDT reply actions  

I don’t think that last comma should be in there, but the author put it in.

"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw

by Norsktroll on Aug 7, 2009 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's a comma splice.

It should read one of two ways.

1. It’s a ground-breaking, if intellectually bankrupt concept.

2. It’s a ground-breaking — if intellectually bankrupt — concept.

Ah, there’s nothing like syntax.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Aug 7, 2009 1:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I disagree

It’s a perfectly good parenthetical phrase.

Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.

by pualo on Aug 7, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've seen that a few times

My writing prof loves to mark the splicing commas in red ink.

by Chris-8ally on Aug 7, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's absurd

You can never, ever, have too many commas, unless, you know, you’re a nerdy prof (who is, probably, overly concerned about punctuation rules that don’t apply to the real world) or a technical English book publisher – the kind that is mired in decades of tradition – or a lawyer; lawyers need for exacting language is often confusing, but generally necessary.
Point made, more or less.
Ok, really, I do love the comma. I think it’s necessary to indicate pauses in speech. But my English professors alleged there were some sort of rules about this. To avoid this conflict, I went into political speech writing, where you need to write like a person speaks. Take THAT, English profs!

Play like your contract year was last year.

by LimitedUpside on Aug 7, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ego

I don’t understand where some of these guys come from. They say they are the next great player but want all the money up front. If you think you’re the next Jerry Rice and that you’ll be catching 1,500 yards a season for the next 10 years then take your absolutely rediculous rookie paycheck, get through the first couple years, then hold up your 30-TD stat sheet and ask for a raise.

I hate seeing how much power the agents have in situations like this. JaMarcus Russel screwed up a very important part of his career playing these games and his agent deserves the blame. It’s hard for me to imagine a 22 year old kid saying “What, only 22 million?! No way will I do my favorite thing in the world (play football) for such low pay!” Yet ever year some agent gets a kid to say exactly that.

Until they finally put a NBA-like scale in place I hope some teams just wave goodbye to these kids and let them swing in the wind for a while. Sure it would be great to have Crabtree there for the preseason but not if it hamstrings the team for the future. Let him sit at home and watch on TV while everyone else plays and if he still won’t sign when the real thing starts then wish him the best of luck in the next draft. If he can stay in shape without actually playing for anyone or working out for anyone during that year because they still own him via the draft, even without a contract in place…

I’m as big a fan as anyone but I have little sympathy for a greedy, egotistical kid and none for the agents who milk these things. I’d send Crabtree a DVD of Brandon Roy with a simple note: “Take the money, do your job, show that you deserve it, and you’ll get paid.”

by JonathanPDX on Aug 7, 2009 2:11 AM PDT reply actions  

If he goes through with it ...

He’ll probably end up like Maurice Clarette. That kid from Ohio State who wanted to come out early and sued (and lost!) and then was picked up by the Broncos and summarily cut because he was too busy thinking he was too good. Show up to camp and prove you’re worth the money.

by gotissues68 on Aug 7, 2009 3:13 AM PDT reply actions  

NFL needs to fix this

They should just have rookie pay be a concrete number based on draft position. No negotiation between the team and player, just a flat 3-year deal worth a specific value for each spot in the draft. Rookies shouldn’t have the entitlement to behave this way. The big contract should be earned whilst playing out their rookie deal. Salaries are much more elegant in the NBA than in MLB and NFL. Salary caps and totally guaranteed contracts.

by The J-Bus on Aug 7, 2009 5:53 AM PDT reply actions  

I think the NFL deserves a fair share of the blame too.

It was only a matter of time before some prima donna decided that he was too good for this unofficial rookie scale they had going on. They should have taken a clue from the NBA and instituted an official pay structure for rookies so that this couldn’t have happened. Granted, guys like Rudy, and probably Claver in the future, end up with lower salaries than they probably deserve in relation to other rookies, but they also don’t have to declare for the draft before they actually want to play in the league.

by erastus25 on Aug 7, 2009 5:57 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm not that familiar with the process but

how can a guy get picked in the draft then decide to withdraw for a year and enter next year’s draft? If that happens, are the 49ers screwed out of a draft pick? Seems absurd…

"Do me a favor. Put your lip over your head... and swallow." Max Goldman

by clinchmobb on Aug 7, 2009 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

This story belongs in S.I.

In their “Sign of the Apocolypse” box. You know, in the front of the magazine.

by Chris-8ally on Aug 7, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions  

that's fantastic

If there are rookie salary slots, then he should follow them. If he’s more like a free-agent, where you can sign at any amount, and the slots are only guidelines, then I guess he can make that threat if he wants.
But either way, this will give other teams pause in the future when he’s a free agent – do they want to deal with this headache? Do they want a guy who is only playing for a big contract later? That doesn’t indicate that he will embrace the team concept, as he will want to pad his stats. I mean, if you are willing to sit out a whole season, clearly your team will never be the top priority in your life.
I enjoy his chautzpah, but only because it’s entertaining. I can only hope for more outrageous arguments in the future.

Play like your contract year was last year.

by LimitedUpside on Aug 7, 2009 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

The average NFL career is what, four years?

Smart to get as much moolah as you can, even if you are a rookie. I say that as a 49er fan.

Now where’s my white wine and brie…?

by MiledAnimal on Aug 7, 2009 12:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Here is the comment I liked the most...

 … Just because fans and media – very few of whom watch even a smidgen of tape, have access to team scouting reports or even comprehend the game of football all that well – were more excited about Crabtree means absolutely nothing.

A point I’ve tried to make on numerous occasions here at BE. Comprehending the game of basketball and watching games or pouring over stats does not an expert evaluator of talent make.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Aug 10, 2009 8:07 AM PDT reply actions  

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