Awoj: Blazers, Roy Agree to 5 Year Extension
by Ben Golliver on Aug 5, 2009 3:01 PM PDT
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PrintAdrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports has tweeted that the Portland Trail Blazers and Brandon Roy have reached an agreement on his contract extension. A Woj tweets...
Brandon Roy has agreed to a 5-year extension worth between $78-$82 million with Blazers, a source tells Y!. News conf. set for Thursday.
Roy will be traveling to Portland on Thursday to sign the deal, source said. The Oregonian first reported a deal was imminent on Tuesday.
Yesterday, Jason Quick of The Oregonian wrote that the two sides were close.
Later yesterday afternoon, the Oregonian's John Canzano tweeted that the two sides had a verbal agreement in place.
More today as this continues to develop. Given Woj's reference to a press conference tomorrow, it's likely that the team will be issuing an official statement, possibly as early as this afternoon.
Say what you want about Awoj but this continues his summer of scoop dominance.
3:15PM: Here's a link to the story A Woj just posted which is, essentially, a grammatically and syntactically correct version of his tweets.
4:30PM: Chad Ford writes on ESPN...
The contract will be for the maximum allowed under league rules. Specific numbers won't be available until the NBA salary cap is set next July. This year a starting max contract would be worth $87 million over the course of five years.
"We've reached an agreement in principal," Roy's agent, Bob Myers, told ESPN.com Wednesday night.
Roy is expected to sign the contract and make it official on Thursday, according to sources.
Chad Ford also tweets...
Max contract value can't be determined until next July. This year it would've been worth $87 mil over 5 years.
But next year the cap expected to go down and so will max number. So probably in the $82 mil range if cap drops 5%
7:30 P.M. Jason Quick has quotes from Brandon...
"My family and I are extremely happy I will be a Blazer for a long time," Roy said after agreeing to sign a four-year deal, with a player option for a fifth season. "And I am very focused and determined to bring a championship to the Rose City."
9:00 P.M. Storyteller builds on Ford's earlier tweets and looks at the exact contract figures...
A maximum extension for Roy, if it started this summer, would be 5 years and $81.8 million. However, since revenues are expected to drop this year, the maximum amount will probably be even lower next summer. So he might only get $78 million or even $75 million - we won't know until next July.
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
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Some people are lying. 83% never worried? Ha, there was mass hysteria on the site for about two weeks.
optimism ftw
by Cablinasian on Aug 5, 2009 3:06 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I wasn't going to worry
until the rumored ‘press conference’ where Roy was going to publicly share his frustrations actually took place.
Wait, they’ve called a press conference for tomorrow? And Roy is going to speak? OK, now I’m officially worried…..can I change my vote?
just for reference, here’s a fanpost of the news when it broke.
timbo:
Take a deep breath. Quick has just won himself the 2009 Hysterical Idiot Award™®, topping favorite and 12-time winner John Canzano for the prize.
If you are really worried about Brandon Roy and LMA running off because their 2nd contracts aren’t done on the first day in which it is legally possible, please run around in a circle in your front yard making whooping noises, so that we can all see who you are and have a good laugh.
optimism ftw
Worried? Hardly.
My “we settled to early and paid too much for Roy” post will be up shortly… Followed by a dozen others. Book it.
The worriers were simply the loud ones
When I rule the world, everyone will know how to use Excel.
by jscot on Aug 5, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
there were fanposts, fanshots, a swarm of @blazersedge questions for Ben to answer, callers into talk shows, etc. and the majority of people were freaking out. Sure, it could have been a case of the vocal minority to some extent, but 8% of people were worried? I doubt it.
optimism ftw
Cue the quote responses.
“Hey! Look!!! I wasn’t worried at all!!!!! I typed this right after the first report:
Blah, blah, blah, we’ll be fine, blah, blah, blah
"
It’s cool if you were worried. I can understand having some apprehension every time the future of the franchise appears to be distressed in some way.
But, of course I was never worried. :)
Yes! Yes! In the face!
A very vocal minority
can have the appearance of the majority.
honestly never was, you think if it was about money Paul Allen and KP would let our best player walk when we're about to be contenders? Please...
and all the “negotiation” drama was media-driven, these long contracts always take time to hammer out on details and structure, I WAS NEVER WORRIED
by rip_city_swagger on Aug 5, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Cabby is saying he himself was worried
But there were certainly a bunch of Negative Nancys and Worried Wilburs around here when he wasn’t signed to a max deal at 12:01AM.
M.
It faded so quickly
I long for the days when contracts were done hastily and instantly regrettable like in the golden days of the Nash/Patterson era.
M—
Halcyon - my favorite Orbital song
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 5, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Sean Meagher should do the same vote over at Oregonlive.com
Maybe with this photo below it http://photos.oregonlive.com/photogallery/fa209100e1a714f7a9925ddf17b07e8f.jpg
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
as if KP had any say in the negotiations of Roy's deal.
KP was merely a representative of his employer’s wishes.
Portland's PG of the Future - Meet John Wall
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
I'm still baffled that people thought GM Kevin Pritchard was behind the stalling here.
If anything, Vulcan Inc. and Vulcan Sports and Entertainment executives were calling the shots on this stingy behavior.
At any rate, though, I was admittedly somewhat worried about Paul Allen suddenly turning into a miser, but I’m now glad everything is settled between the Portland Trail Blazers and Brandon Roy.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
it's up to 91% now
I was so unconcerned with the Roy contract negotiations that this is the first time I have commented about them.
The rest of you who voted that you weren’t concerned are lying.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
Come on man, if you were worried, you have no sense of the business. There is no reason why they wouldn’t resign Roy and soon Aldridge. This always happens to franchise players, it sets the tone for the rest of the league and LMA. He will think twice about the 12 mil a year
by elkaholic84 on Aug 5, 2009 6:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I wasn't worried
He was never going to walk, the Blazers aren’t that stupid.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
For reals.
People were seriously jumping off bridges. Now 91% weren’t worried? Sorry, the minority isn’t THAT loud.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
196 Were worried
That is a whole lot of posts and emails regardless of the percentage. Many of the 2150 who voted never posted, myself included.
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I'm glad it will finally be settled.
I never thought that there was any danger of him not signing the extension but its better to just put the issue to bed. One less thing for the national media to complain about in regards to Portland’s off season.
thank you for echoing my thoughts perfectly.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
Woj is definitely at his best when it comes to reporting news items.
The only time he gets annoying is when he starts to editorialize. Then he can be a bit grating.
Good for a twitter follow though. :)
Yes! Yes! In the face!
woo hoo
i want to know what the fifth year turned out to be. Player or Team option? Did we get a discount of $4 million?
It'll be interesting to see what the contract ends up as
Unfortunately we won’t know until next July….
For example, the extensions that Chris Paul and Deron Williams signed for last summer were reported as 5 year, $83.2 million. They ended up as 5 year, $81.8 million.
My sense is that with declining revenue, Roy’s deal could easily fall to 5 years, $75 million.
Think this is why Roy
took less than the max? maybe KP showed him what max would be expected in the next few years and how they needed to stay flexible? Max contract was $87 right?
by GreatOden'sRaven on Aug 5, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
No
Chad Ford has the wrong numbers.
This year’s max would be 5 years, $81.8 million.
Next year’s max will be ???. Probably $75 to $78 million for 5 years.
I don’t know who’s feeding Ford the $87 million number, but it’s wrong.
BTW, according to J Quick via comments on his blog piece
Tom Penn just confirmed the same thing to him – that the ‘max’ this year would be about $82 million.
Who is the resident cap expert at ESPN? Hollinger?
Simmons sometimes quotes/credits someone for his stats, but can’t come up with the name right now.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
The better question is how long after they post that
Will the message board be clogged with laker fans telling us Roy isn’t that good and the Blazers aren’t worth talking about, lol.
by Tyler Durrden on Aug 5, 2009 5:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I have not been paying attention
What else has whojensky reported first?
I can’t wait to hear Brandon talk about Miller.
did you hear Rick Majerus on 95.5 talking about Miller? All he could talk about is how much better he would make Brandon… great interview, talks about Miller’s character a lot.
optimism ftw
John strong is a great soccer commentator but his radio show is a joke. I still love him thought
by elkaholic84 on Aug 5, 2009 6:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Majerus = Yoda; Miller = Luke Skywalker (albeit a touch long in the tooth)
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
People think Russian is hard, but at least it's phonetic...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
still got that autographed baseball?
that’s about the only episode I remember
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Whoever it is writing those tweets
Keeps talking about being from The Dalles, too, so it makes me think it’s fake as well.
M.
I'm jus' funnin'
I haven’t seen the alleged Twitter account of LMA or anything, just supposing that it would be humorous if it was being faked and the person, likely an Oregon resident, mistakenly thought LMA was from The Dalles and not Dallas, Texas.
Just funnin’!
Mort
I'm from The Dalles
but since I don’t know a tweet from a chirp, I’m obviously innocent.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
Also: COMCAST SUCKS!
Yea... he is not in
Lake O this week…i think
Portland Trail Blazers 2009-2010 Western Conference Champs
What username are you talking about?
are you saything @LA4Real name is not real? He hasn’t talked about the Dalles at all. It seems legit except he says he is in L.O.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
Sounds like we buckled too early
I’d rather we’d waited till next season and forced the market to determine how much Roy is worth.
That way, someone could offer him the max that one can offer without his Bird rights, which is less than what we could offer, and we just match it and BAM instant savings.
It is a foolproof plan.
Mortimer
Now everyone will know
That if you are one of the best players in the NBA today and an incredibly clutch performer and on-court leader, the Blazers will overpay you. THAT IS NOT HOW YOU DO BUSINESS.
Morty
is it too late
for Brandon to get personally involved in trying to convince Hedo Turkoglu to come to Portland?
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I'm glad Brandon shut up after the radio interview.
He was sounding like a rookie negotiating his first contract extension. Well, I guess that was what he was, but he still should of kept quiet. No need to put even the slightest tarnish on his “The Face of the Blazers” image. (Couldn’t talk to Hedo because he was only obligated to the Blazers for at least two more years? Come on … like the Blazers would let him walk without matching any RFA offers even if it came to that?) Fortunately, he or his agent realized he should keep quiet after that radio interview.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Aug 5, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Except that it alienates Roy toward the franchise
And it also means we would have to hold off resigning Aldridge. That’s a bigger concern, because you know some crazy GM would offer him a max deal and we wouldn’t be matching it.
We could have just told Roy to "sack up"
If you challenge a man’s manhood, they are forced to acquiesce to your point of view.
Science.
Mortimer
Bill Nye the Science Guy!
Bill! Bill! Bill! Bill! Bill! Bill!
Science Rules!
Remember when McMillan was on that show? The episode about skin? There was a fanpost on it earlier…
OK, story time:
Many years ago, I knew a great guy with an unfortunate gig: bill collector. He hated his job, and did his best to work with those who were in financial distress. But there were others: genuine “deadbeats” who never intended to pay their bills in the first place and who would taunt bill collectors. THOSE guys my friend loved going after, using a variety of techniques—some a bit unsavory.
But one method he hit on was purely psychological, and, bizarrely, it often worked better than any threat or coercive technique. That is, he’d challenge the deadbeat’s manhood. He’d say something like, “a REAL man takes care of his obligations. Are you a real man?” And sometimes the same guy who had been laughing in my friend’s face & bragging about how he never paid his bills would hear this and meekly pony up. He just couldn’t take having his manhood questioned.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
nah, not enough flexibility
we should have not offered anything this year and offered him the QO next year. That way, we would have money in 2010 for a max free agent. Then we could resign him as a UFA in 2011 offseason. Do the same thing for LMA, and you have a core of Roy/Oden/Aldridge/2010 FA.
Now that is a foolproof plan. There is no chance that Roy or Aldridge would be PO’d with the FO and decide to spurn our offer in 2011 and walk for less money. Nah, they would understand and sympathize with our needs.
"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"
-Ron Artest
Well you just let them in on the plan
And maybe wink a lot when explaining it to them.
If they want to win, they’d go along with it. I, for one, am feeling quite disconcerted now that I know Roy cares more about dollars than winning. Looks like we got another Z-Bo on our hands :-(
Morty
The sarcasm dripping from your voice
Is really starting to make puddles around my feet.
Now can we start the official LMA is upset by his contract negotiations thread?
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Aug 5, 2009 3:32 PM PDT reply actions
What?!?!?! The deal isn't done yet!!?!?!
KP’s Golden Aura is fading! This is the summer of darkness!
I'm sure Canzano is already writing that one.
It’ll be in the paper in the next day or two.
Portland Trail Blazers, Future World Champions 2010-2021.
Rely on Boom Boom Batum
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
by Norsktroll on Aug 5, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yup.
I anticipate that Batum will be the long term answer. The five year gap between him and Roy ensures that he will be hitting his prime just as Roy is on the tail end of his career, and he will be the next superstar wing for the blazers.
"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"
-Ron Artest
France is like a 3rd world country
If we offer Nic a sack of pinto beans he’ll think he’s getting a max deal. He is loveably naive.
M.
Just tell him if he doesn't like our offer and wants to look elsewhere,
too bad, he can’t afford the buyout.
Batum is good, but he's no Brandon Roy, and will not be the replacement
by rip_city_swagger on Aug 5, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I never said he's B-Roy
My point is that he’s young right now, and extremely raw. He can’t do much on offense by himself right now, and had a significant percentage of his shots come off of assists. However I do believe that he has the potential to improve significantly on offense, especially given his inherent athleticism. He won’t become Kevin Durant, but he has the potential to be a Scottie Pippen/Tayshaun Prince hybrid. Don’t you think a player of that caliber can be the centerpiece of a contending team?
"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"
-Ron Artest
Batum will never be of the same caliber as Scottie Pippen
And his absolute best would be Prince, but I doubt he will be able to control the ball like Prince can.
My best case scenario is Batum becoming Shane Battier, and if he does that we won’t ever lose.
You say this with such confidence
Considering Batum’s age and NBA experience. Sure, it’s UNLIKELY Batum will be another Pippen. But “never?” Sorry, but that’s just overstatement. Let’s watch the kid for another season before declaring what he can never be.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
Batum already scores better than Battier.
Seriously, check his points per 36 minutes.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
We could always blackmail him.
Does anyone have any compromising pictures of him, or is anyone here REALLY good at photoshop?
Yes! Yes! In the face!
That's Halle Freakin' Berry to you, foo.
by MiledAnimal on Aug 5, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, we used to date until she hit the big-time.
Then she copped a ’tude and I dropped her like a sack of bricks.
No woman cheats on me ten times and gets away with it.
Plus she wasn’t returning my calls.
The stalker lawsuit was the last straw.
I hate when that happens. The same thing happened with Kate Beckinsale and myself. Its a true heart breaker
by elkaholic84 on Aug 5, 2009 7:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Any reports
Any truth to the rumor I just made up that the Blazers waited so long to make the deal because they were worried about Roy “pulling a Diaw”, as we say in the business?
As in, getting fat?
I think they were getting worried about him getting fat and eating a lot of croissants. I read it somewhere.
Mortimer, silly.
Roy's from the Puget Sound area
He’d be getting fat on coffee. Can not WAIT to move there (in five weeks!).
Ooph he'll be all top heavy now I bet
Last I heard, my sources said he was three wheeling down by Crooked River in central Oregon with no helmet and eating a ham sammich.
He was always so impressed with how skinny Oden’s legs were when compared to his upper body, and has worked hard to duplicate that feat.
OH ROY, IT USED TO BE SO GOOD…
Mo
That was yesterday.
He had both his kids on board. I dunno, I just don’t think he fits in with the culture.
He has become the “Glenn Davis” of shooting guards. Maybe 9 rebounds a game this year???
by elkaholic84 on Aug 5, 2009 7:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That's why KP and Nate worked out May in Vegas
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
The really funny thing is
I can’t decide if that photo is altered or not.
It’s from 2007 when he was on the Bobcats. You can only hope he slimmed down in the meantime a bit.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
Close enough
yeesh.
"It all depends on where his growth will come and we think his growth will come within us" -- Kevin Pritchard on Jerryd Bayless
Well, I like when the second suggestion on Google for my player is "dunk" and not "fat"
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
by Norsktroll on Aug 5, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 10 recs
Unfortunately
I just tried it to see what comes up for Oden, and not surprisingly the 3rd word is “injury”, and 4th is “bust”.
STUPID GOOGLE.
—M
I smell a fanpost, Norskie... Do ALL the Blazers and write it up...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
WHOOPS, MORTY. I mean Morty. Jus' sayin'...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Morty. Mor-ton. Mortimer Mort Morten Mortski Mortiester...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Brilliant as usual, Norskie! REC
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
See, I made myself goof up.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Norskie. Nor-ton. Nortimer Nort Norten Nortski Nortiester...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Don’t worry, its not altered. He is playing the role of professor Klump in nutty professor 3
by elkaholic84 on Aug 5, 2009 7:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It's the age olde strategy
Of bringing someone with you to a social event who is fatter and uglier than you, to make yourself appear more physically attractive.
KP and Nate felt that, after hearing about Roy’s 10 hour binges at Izzy’s pizza bar, if they get a true fatty next to him it’ll make Roy still appear svelte and in shape and that this, somehow, would trick Roy’s body and mind into thinking he was in peak physical condition and there would be no drop off in his production.
It’s crazy enough to work.
Mor—
With that same mindset-
I finally see why my beautiful girlfriend has stayed with me this long.
Yeah, if you're not using her to make yourself look better
Then she is using you. It’s just how the world works.
Mortimer
Good rule of thumb
When your chin/jaw is wider than your skull, it may be time to stop eating.
Unless you have a thyroid condition or something of the like. Not trying to be mean. Just trying to educate.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
Did Jabba even have a skull?
I figured his head just piled up that way.
Sean May and Jabba the Hut. Two of a Kind. That’s something his agent can use as a selling point.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
He just doesn't get up and down the court well.
But as long as you’re okay playing 4 on 5 on defense/offense, you can make peace with the acquisition.
M.
I'd hate to think how George Lucas came up with the idea
of an alien who smells bad and looks like a giant turd.
he was probably sitting around thinking
“hmmm, how do I get Carrie Fisher into a bikini?”
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Cue the cocaine jokes...
10 – 9 – 8 – 7 – 6 – 5 – 4 – rolling – and – ACTION!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
4:30PM: Chad Ford writes on ESPN…
The contract will be for the maximum allowed under league rules. Specific numbers won’t be available until the NBA salary cap is set next July. This year a starting max contract would be worth $87 million over the course of five years.
“We’ve reached an agreement in principal,” Roy’s agent, Bob Myers, told ESPN.com Wednesday night.
Roy is expected to sign the contract and make it official on Thursday, according to sources.
so we ARE paying him the max
and not an altered amount
by GreatOden'sRaven on Aug 5, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Chad Ford had the wrong number of $87 million up most of yesterday
He edited it to the correct figure of $82 million (rounded to nearest mil) last night.
Cablinasian is right.
It's a lot, but a bargain compared to Rashard Lewis (and a number of players on their third contract)
If it is 5 years and the last year is no option or a team option, that is likely to the advantage of the Blazers. Average salaries might fall significantly under the next CBA, star salaries likely won’t.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
It's my understanding
that star salaries will fall the most, since max deal are determined as 25% of the cap. If the cap drops, so do max deals.
True for Roy, his max deal beginning next year will be lower than this year’s number had someone started a max deal now (could be 5% lower or more). Yet the next CBA in 2011 might change that max percentage, eliminate exceptions like the MLE, give players less guaranteed years, etc. And usually the third NBA deal is where the really big money is. So locking him up 1 more year at the 2010 rate could be good for the Blazers, though it also gives Roy more guaranteed money.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
you knew it was coming
sadly Cheikh did not
by GreatOden'sRaven on Aug 5, 2009 4:34 PM PDT reply actions
He and Tom Tolbert do the afternoon show together.
Tolbert and Barbieri were talking about Brandon a year ago and Barbieri said he wouldn’t trade Monta for Roy. Tolbert didn’t want to humiliate The Razor so he said, “Uhh, I don’t know about that…” with his voice trailing off.
we should trade him for Foye
I hear he is good…
"No disrespect to Jeff Blake"
by Eat Politicians on Aug 5, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Oden is wide open on this play
And Roy goes for the contested shot? What a ball hog!
Actually, at a second glance
where is Batum’s defender?
I remember more about this play now.
After the dunk you see Nic’s face as he’s getting back on defense, and it was one of those “DANG! I’m sure glad I’m on B-Roy’s team!” faces.
"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"
-Ron Artest
that is the lineup of the future.
optimism ftw
by Cablinasian on Aug 5, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
With two great bench players set to check in.
Though neither will be Blazers in two years.
half right
Do you win much $ at powerball with that crystal ball, Merlin?
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
who is that flying little man,
and why is he about to make that giant cry?
by Tyler Durrden on Aug 5, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
good
i was talking with my neighbor last night and he was talking about how roy is slow and ruins the flow of the game.then i tried explaining to him thats how he plays and only uses his speed and quickness when he needs to, hes a controlled player and not wreckless, but he woudnt have any of it so i kicked him out
Trade for Luis Amundson!!Do it KP!!
I often watch us winning a lot of games
And think how much nicer it would be without this Roy character mucking things up.
M.
Seriously, your sarcasm
I’m up to my knees in it.
ANY IDEA IF THE FIFTH YEAR IS A PLAYER OPTION???
by dbartha on Aug 5, 2009 4:57 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
More important than the money amount.
This is really the only part of the deal I have been concerned about.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
Players currently on a maximum deal according to RealGM
Joe Johnson, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, LeBron James, Shaquille O’Neal, Dirk Nowitzki, Carmelo Anthony, Tracy McGrady, Kobe Bryant, Jermaine O’Neal, Dwyane Wade, Michael Redd, Tim Duncan, Chris Bosh
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
I think he is technically just below a max deal
Plus a lot of his contract is being paid over 20 years or something like that.
M—
Zach Randolph had 30% of his contract deferred, which'll be paid out over six years starting ...
in 2012. You’re also correct that Randolph’s contract isn’t quite a maximum-level deal, so RealGM is wrong on that account. Yet, the contract included incentives that could’ve brought it to maximum-level status.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1913969
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
Deductions for damage to the building.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Zach does have some skillz. What would have been a fair contract?
I’m thinking five years, $40 million, and a lifetime membership to the NAASC (National Association of American Strip Clubs).
Along with...
eww Jermaine O’Neal
eww Tracy McGrady
and of course
eww Kobe Bryant
Great!
I never understand what the negotiating is for if they eventually just cave and give the max anyway. Not just Roy but like in the NFL, they “negotiate” then make Eli Manning the highest paid player in the NFL.
To be honest on pure basketball merits I don’t think Roy is a max player, just a tad below that but he’s so important to this franchise and city plus everyone overpays anyway so they had to give the max. I hope they don’t pay the max to Aldridge but a cut below.
Special middle finger to Quick and Canzano for making this something out of nothing. I’m sure Canzano will take all the credit and say his moving words caused a grassroots “sign Roy” movement that led the Blazers to get this done.
by neutroticblazerfan on Aug 5, 2009 5:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The NFL is different
Because they have a hard cap and so you can’t go above that number, unlike the NBA.
As for those two, its their job to a certain extent, sells papers in the off-season. Stupid but there ya go.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Eli isn’t the highest paid player in the NFL. But guess who is?…. Ben Roethlisberger makes, I could be wrong, but 27 mil a year. Which is absolutely ridiculous. Please correct me if you know the exact figure
by elkaholic84 on Aug 5, 2009 7:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
That sounds extraordinarily wrong.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Ben = $102M/8 years = $12.75M = less than Brandon
And NFL contracts are not guaranteed.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Link on Big Ben's money...
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFl&id=1181
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Next article ideas for Canzano
“Why is a basketball player the highest paid person in Oregon?”
“Is Brandon Roy going to give back to the Portland community or is he another selfish athlete?”
“How can Roy make 82 million when so many people are struggling in the recession?”
“Meet Eda, she’s a 90 yr old grandmother of four who can’t make mortgage payments and a huge Blazer fan, she can’t pay her mortgage, will Roy step up and use his 82 mil to pay her mortgage?”
by neutroticblazerfan on Aug 5, 2009 5:16 PM PDT reply actions
I heard Ron Artest gave his diamond encrusted watch to a poor kid from China for his education
Roy should do that. Then challenge some female TV and weather announcers to a binge eating contest for charity.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
I heard ron artest sits in the nude for the entire half-time so that his uni can dry out
by Tyler Durrden on Aug 5, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
and by uni I mean uniform. And by nude I mean naked.
by Tyler Durrden on Aug 5, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
define
“entire”
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
as in not just a shower, as in while everybody is sitting down listening to the coach.
apparently he does not like to play with a wet jersey, so he immediately takes his clothes off, and hangs them up to dry. Heard it from someone who works the houston market, I think on the jim rome show. It is said to be awkward for some of his teammates. Also one time he almost missed the very last bus leaving on a road trip, and as it was about to leave he showed up wearing only his underwear, this was the bus that had the administrators and team owner on it, not the team bus.
by Tyler Durrden on Aug 5, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
as in if you and me and ron-ron were all hanging out sitting in my living room watching a movie,
he would be naked, and we would be afraid.
by Tyler Durrden on Aug 5, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
maybe it's just me, but...
I’d be afraid of Ron-Ron even if he WASN’T naked
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Aug 5, 2009 11:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Why don't they have a spare jersey to change into during halftime?
Patrick Ewing sweated so much that he’d change into a fresh jersey at halftime.
It solves two problems, to me: nice dry jersey for Artest that he prefers, and no naked Artest that no one prefers.
Morty
yeah I'm not saying I'm anti-nudity
but generally if there is only one naked person in a room full of clothed people(and it’s not a certain kind of establishment) this can be an uncomfortable situation. I also heard he likes to stand and not sit. But that’s just Ron-Ron going Ron-Ron!
by Tyler Durrden on Aug 5, 2009 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
He's the guy at the YMCA who puts his socks on first after the shower
And then stands there talking to everyone without advancing in the stages of dressedness.
M.
I love how the Blazers handled this deal because
it only helps fuel the flames of making Brandon take his game up to the next level. Roy’s already sold the fans and the city on deserving the max. Now he can go into training camp with the mindset of proving it to the Ownership.
Portland's PG of the Future - Meet John Wall
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
oh he may have not gotten the max? i should pay more attention.
/slaps self
Portland's PG of the Future - Meet John Wall
Treat people well because Karma can hit you at any second.
Brandon deserves the max if only for his tireless efforts
in pimping the Blazers his first couple of seasons when they still carried the stink of the Jail Blazer years.
How does a five year Max ticket sound?
Are you an “Honored Citizen”? That would be a $1375 value. Or $4730 as an adult. That would be a very generous offer. Maybe for 5 year season ticket holders.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
The best part of this is:
At least six more years of Brandon Roy, God willing.
μὴ φοβοῦ, μόνον πίστευε.
Maybe I'm slow.
But Quick is now reporting that Roy has a player option in his fifth year.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/08/agent_roy_blazers_reach_agreem.html
μὴ φοβοῦ, μόνον πίστευε.
Which means in four years
We’ll be talking about an extension, no big.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
So Roy got exactly what he wanted
Good for him. Why did we take so long to give him exactly what he asked for?
I think this all had more to do with setting a precedent for lma than it did with not wanting to give roy the max
by Tyler Durrden on Aug 5, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Probably true
LMA’s negotiations will probably be a bit more contentious. Roy was obviously getting max dollars, but the market for Aldridge isn’t so clearly set.
Yeah, Roy got exactly what he wanted. That will teach LMA to give in quickly???
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Aug 5, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Message: We don't care if the owner is a multi-billionaire and we're even gonna make BRANDON FRICKIN' ROY squirm...
…………………………… So those of you not named BRANDON FRICKIN’ ROY, don’t plan on Max deals…
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Translation: If we give you rough time wait about a month and then we will get down to business.
It doesn’t accomplish anything to bluff for a month when everyone in the game can see your cards and know you are going to fold on the river.
Their message to LMA was going to be exactly the same regardless of how much posturing they did with Brandon. You aren’t Brandon Roy, you weren’t rookie of the year and a 2-time all-star. Now let’s talk contract.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Aug 5, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh, if he opts out (likely) that's exactly what the Blazers didn't want to do to save some money.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
Now on to the L-Train
Who hopefully will give us another five-year extension as well.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I'd rather not sign LaMarcus Aldridge to a contract extension.
It’d be more prudent to let the market dictate his value next summer.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
Bad idea
Some crazy, desperate GM may offer him a max deal to pry him away from us and we probably wouldn’t match. We can’t afford to take that risk just to avoid dicey negotiations.
At worst, a maximum-level offer sheet from another club would be for five years and include ...
just 8% annual raises. So, even under those unfortunate circumstances, Aldridge would still earn less than Brandon Roy if the Portland Trail Blazers matched said offer. I, however, doubt any team would take that kind of shot in the dark—especially in a down economy and tumultuous times with an impending CBA negotiations.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
We've helped several guys get large paydays this offseason
First was Hedo, then Millsap (ESPECIALLY Millsap), and then Andre Miller, and now Roy.
WOW!
I have seen a lot of comments about Brandon today, saying he isn’t worth max contract and that he could never lead a team, saying they see him just as a role player. Are they crazy? Have they never seen a Blazer game?
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
Prolly not!
Who on Earth is thinking such thoughts?
It’s like they’re reading a negative scouting report from before the ’06 draft if they say such things.
Mo—
Here is a collection of thoughts from twitterverse
the_sports_page: I dn’t think so, roy dn’t strike me as dominating RT @JonesOnTheNBA: RT @hoopshype: Can Brandon Roy be the main guy on a championship team?
godofredo: @hoopshype I see Brandon Roy as more of a sidekick extraordinaire… How good would he be next to someone like Kevin Durant?!!
bxmizzle: RT @emelissa0919 Trail Blazers G Brandon Roy has agreed to 5-year extension worth up to 82 million <— is he worth that?<He’s still Unproven
ELGINDOTCOM: Brandon Roy is good but not 80 million good.. Seriously
Tyrantanic: @hoopshype brandon roy is a nice piece but I see him not as a centerpiece but more of a michael redd type player
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
Hahahaha
Yes, if only we could have someone who can score 3 points more and add nothing else like Kevin Durant next to Roy… a TRUE superstar like Durant, if you will.
If Kobe can be the main guy on a championship team, I think Roy— who, pace adjusted, was just as good and much MUCH much better in 4th quarters— can be.
I dunno who Tyrantanic is, but I can confidently say he/she has not paid attention to Roy when he plays, if he compares him to the one dimensional and extremely selfish Redd. Cheese and crackers, ya don’t need to watch every game to know who is who in the NBA, and what people can do.
Morty
I agree
I think brandon is worth every bit. I still think brandon doesn’t get the national attention he deserves so I dont think it is too shocking to hear these kinds of statements. And brandon as a sidekick would be dumb.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
I made the mistake a year ago
of underestimating Roy and feeling like he had essentially ‘peaked’ in terms of production. Big mistake.
Others are likewise underestimating him, which is understandable. But I believe them wrong, wrong, wrong for doing so.
I get it more, a year ago
We were just 41 and 41, he averaged 19/5/5— good, but not a superstar, to most outsider’s eyes.
He kinda burst on the scene purty good this recent season. I don’t expect everyone to take into account pace adjusted stats or to watch every Blazer game and see and feel and drink his impact, but the average fan should have realized by now that he is a damn good player.
I mean, just a superficial glance at his regular ol’ stats show he’s a superstar, so ya don’t need to do any high falutin’ fancy stats works to have a general understanding of his worth.
People… just don’t pay attention.
Mortimer
i think alot of people dont realize roy made a leap last year in his contract year.
before last year, staying on that trajectory, i might have agreed that he isn’t worth max.
but he uped his point production and killer shark skillz in that contract year.
Remember when Clyde left - Vulcans beware of how you treat All Star cornerstones....
that is what I was worried about.
by Rick C in Tigard on Aug 5, 2009 7:00 PM PDT reply actions
that press conference he looked HUGE.
i would not look at that guy and go “professional basketball player!”
baseball effect.
he looks goofy while hes throwing a lob so a guy can dunk on your head
then you look goofy
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Aug 6, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I wasn't worried
but I don’t fault those that were. I can definitely wig out on stuff if I’m being impatient or overthinking stuff. I kind of tune out on basketball over the summer so that was probably part of it….
"No disrespect to Jeff Blake"
"Say what you want about Awoj but this continues his summer of scoop dominance."
WHAT?? Didn’t we just read a Woj column declaring that Lamar Odom was “strongly leaning” towards signing with the Miami Heat? That column was simply laughable. I’d have bet my house that Odom would resign with the Lakers. Anyone who believed that “strongly leaning” nonsense was extremely gullible.
Woj is nothing more than the tool of his sources, who have obvious agendas and axes to grind. You know: like the source that apparently stays up nights sticking pins in his Kevin Pritchard voodoo doll.
Contrary to your statement, I think Woj’s work this summer ended any credibility he may have once possessed.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
RT: the source that apparently stays up nights sticking pins in his Kevin Pritchard voodoo doll
Mark Warkentein has Chauncey Billups
And now Kevin Pritchard has Andre Miller
let’s take this outside, and may the GM with the best PG win the NW division
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Congratulations
You locked up a stud. Many happy returns from an envious admirer.
SACTOWN ROYALTY - Try our thick creamy shakes!
You can finally call Portland
your 2nd home Mr. Roy!! welcome home baby!!!!
Now the drama is focused on Mr. Aldridge.
The magic # is 0!!!
ps. t minus John Canazano creating some new drama about LMA's situation
5…4…3…2…1…
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Aug 6, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Calzono, whatever
Corazine Calculator Calcium
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Aug 6, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
why didn't Roy go for 6th year?
maximum allowed by bird right is 6 year, right? I wonder why Roy didn’t go for that.
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