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Weekend Discussion: The Other Side of the Coin


A couple of days ago we asked people to chime in on the best and worst things about Blazer fans.  We were careful to distinguish between that topic and the best and worst things about BEING a Blazer fan.  The response was enthusiastic and the commentary interesting, so this weekend we're going to have a go at the latter question.

What, for you, are the best and worst things about BEING a Blazer fan?  We're not talking about the characteristics of the fanbase as a whole anymore.  We're talking about your favorite thing about following the team--the best reason to do so, if you will--and whatever makes it hard as well.

My best thing would be the sense of camaraderie you get from supporting the Blazers.  The entire fanbase has been raised on the same set of stimuli.  When you mention Clyde Drexler or Rasheed Wallace everybody knows who you're talking about.  Not only that, everybody has an emotional reaction and stories to share.  And when they share those stories, everybody else knows what they're talking about.  Blazer fans are bonded.  You could meet a guy in a L*kers jersey in China and not know who the heck he is.  That guy wearing a Blazers jersey--whether it's in Beijing, Bangkok, or Barcelona--you know him.

The hardest thing for me is just how long it's been since the team won it all.  Many folks weren't alive in '77.  For the rest the championship is relegated to nostalgia.  The times we've come close since have been thrilling but ultimately we've had to settle for just falling short.  We've found a million things to love about the team but it would be nice to have that one, shining moment again.  You wouldn't have to explain why you root for them.  The excellence would be clear to everyone.

Those are mine, what are yours?  Have at it below.  I always enjoy the responses.

--Dave (blazersub@yahoo.com)

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Worst for me is the inferiority complex that comes with rooting for the Blazers. We’re not taken very seriously outside of our market, and deep down that hurts.
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The best part is the junk drawer.

There's always money in the banana stand!
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by TheTinfoil on Aug 28, 2009 10:43 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

yup... tha'd be about it on the hurt side...

I dig it when we finally get to shine though and tha’d be the best part for me.

when everyone that had a problem before when they could talk and be half way right, suddenly shuts up and has to keep quite when Portland comes up…. it’s nice. I try to just smile and nod but once and a while I make a complete mule of myself and things like " HHHHAAAAAAAA, SUCKS TO BE A PHILLIE FAN/ PACER FAN/ TIMBERWOLVES FAN, CHICAGO FAN NOW HU!!!" …. but that’s only after they come to terms and admit portland is the shizzznit ;) ….

I love being a fan of this team. por vida hombre.

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

"New Man Law: If you don't show up for the draft you don't get to come later if you're picked. If you believe in yourself, show up and sit there. If nobody else believes in you, take it and cry like a man...in front of the cameras."

-Dave

by faith on Aug 30, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah the good old years!

Of course I do remember the championship year and even years before.

The best part for me is that Portland and Oregon have a team. The minor league baseball and hockey were not so bad. I went to plenty of games and we cared that we won. But having a major league team is huge. Harry Glickman will always be my hero. In the early years we went to games knowing we would probably lose but get to see stars perform. Real bone fide stars only seen by travel out-of-state or occasionally on TV. We still cheered our lungs out but then, when the team learned to win (having the right confluence in 1976 was the catalyst) the town grew up around them. It has been wonderful and all the more precious when we can see our sister team the Supersonics, snatched so cruelly from Seattle.

The worst is that the games are no longer possible for me. We went to most home games for every year from 1973-1997. As some of you know I am disabled and cannot travel out of central Oregon so TV and Internet are my eyes and ears. That worst sure got better with Blazersedge. You folks are so amazing – not just Dave and Ben, who are rock stars, but the rest of you here as well.

by lee3022 on Aug 28, 2009 11:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I too live and retired in Prineville OR.

I can’t go to the games because of my retirement funds got elaborated because of cancer and a heart attack. I have said all my life that Cancer would never kill me because getting cancer would give me a heart attack. That is not really true but it might be.

Anyway all is well in my health department I’ve been cancer free for two years, I have recovered from my heart attack.

As said above I can’t go to the games and Comcast ruined the chance of watching on TV. Therefore BE has been the greatest as far as being able to stay attached.

I don’t know where in central OR you live in but if you have to depend on Radio reception you are in trouble.

I can relate to your best and worst.

hg

by BBK on Aug 29, 2009 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's hoping a continured remission for you

The sorry state of DISH and DirectTV not buying Comcast NW has left many out. Mid-year last year Bend Broadband finally achieved whatever they were waiting for and I signed up so I do get the broadcasts now (Sisters). If DISH gets Comcast this year I may switch back as the NBA network is not on Bend Broadband. I feel for you.

by lee3022 on Aug 29, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

When Bend Broadband signed up

My boy in Bend has Comcast now, so if the right game is on I can get over to watch it. He doesn’t get home until late and I live quite a distance from him (Prineville Damn area). So don’t get to watch many. Comcast is still the worst.

Thanks for your reply

hg

by BBK on Aug 29, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

my picks

Best: The fact that it’s not a super well-known team. You see people all over the country wearing Lakers/Celtics/Cleveland/San Antonio jerseys and hats, and it’s like seeing Yankees and Red Sox hats…those teams are such well-known “brand names” that you don’t know whether somebody is wearing their stuff because they’re a fan or just because it’s trendy. The Blazers are obscure enough that you know that if you see somebody rocking a jersey or a hat in public, they’re a real fan and you can go up and start a conversation.

Worst: basketball season is almost entirely during the schoolyear, so I can only go to games when I’m home for winter or spring break, and this year that’s not a very thrilling selection of teams.

by shighkin on Aug 28, 2009 11:25 PM PDT reply actions  

You even see L@ker and LeBron jerseys in Scotland

disgusting.

"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue

by jscot on Aug 29, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

How 'bout this: Worst thing about fans ... in general

Greg Oden posted a Facebook update saying he was going to attend the Ultimate Fighting Challenge something-something. I responded saying “STAY OUT of the ring,” or some such witty junk.
Then I got curious what other people were writing to Oldman Oden.
Lots and lots of “Take me wit youuuuuuuuu!!!!111”-type begging.
Which leads me to point 1:
Fans usually want something.
Mostly, they want you to succeed because, well, we’ve sunk some part of outselves into this person/team.
But on some level, more overt with some than others, they WANT something personal. They want to glom onto whatever fame or fortune that person has. They want insider treatment. They want a freebie.
Point 2: Other people posting on Greg’s page said something to the tune of: “Get back to practice; don’t be a Bust!” (Correct use of the semicolon is mine, not the posters’, many of whom seemed to have a very tentative grasp of the written language to begin with.)
This is awful, and I caught myself wondering why on Earth this person would go out of their way to write something so stupid, so embarrassing, so … mean.
To me, this is like the most selfish act out there. Greg, and most other pro-athletes are real people. They get up each morning, put on their shorts one leg at a time, and do the best they can. I’d like to follow some of these posters around for a day and chuck rocks at their glass houses.
Point 3: I’m not immune! I’ve used fandom connections/influence to get into concerts for free, or with good seats. I’ve hogged celebrities time with stupid inane talk, with hopes of getting closer to their limelight. It’s human nature I think. but really, like most things, we’ve got to be nice about it, yes?

/rant

Rudyculize: The act of Rudy making others look slow, dim and generally oafish.
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by Y5k on Aug 28, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions  

My take

My best: The memories, specifically the games my dad and i used to listen to on the radio, Bill Schonley and his catch phrases “Rip city, yesr sir!,” “T.P. for three!!!” etc. Schonz was the man, is still the man and if i had the chance i would love to thank him personally for those memories.

My worst: The heart breaks, Our first finals team of the Drexler era that lost to the pistons, the 63 win blazer team that lost to the lakers, The final Drexler era team that made the finals and lost to the bulls, The Pippen Blazers that lost to the lakers in the 4th quarter of the WCF, up to the present with our team losing to the Rockets after ending the year on the type of hot streak that allmost allways propells teams past the first opponent they face.

by blazerbeliever97504 on Aug 28, 2009 11:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Best is hearing from the international fans. I love finding out why they have chosen the Blazers. Their reasons have nothing to do with being a knee-jerk fan; they’re not rooting for the team because it’s popular or following a superstar because of a marketing campaign. If they want to watch a game it’s at odd hours, often on a sketchy internet connection. They sometimes have to work hard to search out (and decipher) Blazers stories. Plus, they often see basketball from a different angle than many American fans, and give us insights into guys like Rudy.

Worst is the rush of anger I feel when I talk to people who STILL think of the team as Jailblazers. It’s not so bad when I’m talking to someone who lives halfway across the country, but there are plenty of people in Portland who can’t let go of that outdated stereotype of Blazer = thug.

by Corvid on Aug 29, 2009 12:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Ah

I missed yours. I had the same thought for worst, but a few minutes later :)

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Aug 29, 2009 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here we go.

Best thing: The way this team is ingrained in the city of Portland. Walk around town and you’ll meet about 500,000 different types of people. Many of them disagree with about everything you stand for. They may have different political ideas. They may believe in a different diety or dieties. They may have different morals. They may think your outfit is just hideous. But if you mention the Trail Blazers, be it a little or a lot, they have that connection to the team. On some level, they understand how you feel about the team because, on some level, they feel the same way too.

Worst thing: I guess it’s the title drought. I wasn’t alive in ‘77 (wouldn’t arrive in town for 3 more years). It’s never been a good thing to say that my favorite basketball team hasn’t won a championship in my lifetime. And the years don’t make that statement sound any better. Of course, when you look at the teams I root for (Ducks, Bears, Cubs, Maple Leafs, Blackburn Rovers) it appears that I’m a glutton for punishment. Only two of those teams have won titles in my lifetime, both of them being won before I started following either team. So I guess I’m used to not having my teams win titles, softening the blow on the Blazers a little bit, especially considering their overall success in my lifetime.

You, see, loving the Blazers is like pizza and sex. Even when it’s bad, it’s still pretty good.

Ok, that’s not true. Some pizza is just bad, period.

Yes! Yes! In the face!

by LeafHawk on Aug 29, 2009 12:39 AM PDT reply actions  

Best: loving the promise of potential

Worst: loving the promise of potential

by mandoman10 on Aug 29, 2009 12:51 AM PDT reply actions  

The best is I get to be a part of Blazermania. The worst, is that far too many ignorant people still refer to the Jailblazers Era when I travel.

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Aug 29, 2009 1:13 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm going to combine tinfoil and corvid's worsts

Worst: Being the overlooked small market team remembered more for the jailblazers than a 54 win season.

Best: Everything else….or is that too non specific?

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Aug 29, 2009 1:40 AM PDT reply actions  

my best and worst

Best: being part of a passionate group of people. When I go to a game I can strike up a conversation wth anyone in the arena at any moment, and not feel awkward about it. We’re all supporting the team 100%!

Worst: all of the times we were so near to the title only to fall short. 90, 91, 92, 99, 2000… All in my memory and I can remember the pain fresh as the day(s) it happened.

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Aug 29, 2009 2:03 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

My best and worst.

The best is much like lee3022 my computer is my ears and now my eyes. I have been a Blazer fan since 1970, but just watched and listened to games. I rooted my lungs out because they were my home state Pro team. Winning it all in 77 got me hooked.

But the best thing is reading here on BE and other Blazer blogs. I am now learning more about basketball, I now have some knowledge of the players although, maybe not completely accurate due to getting my knowledge from emotional
fans. TEE HEE.

My worst is COMCAST. enough said.

hg

by BBK on Aug 29, 2009 7:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Best: the diversion it provides. Worst: consumes too much of my time, (I.E., B.E.)

 Even “worster”: Comcast frustrations

Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave

Also: COMCAST SUCKS!

by TwoDeep on Aug 29, 2009 8:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Best is having a team that is fun to follow and a roster full of guys I can be proud of

Worst is having to defend how I chose to support the Blazers and their roster

by tominhawaii on Aug 29, 2009 8:36 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Nicely said.

The combination of those two factors is such a nice synergy.
I was thinking the worst is when a skilled player, who I naturally want to cheer on the floor, turns out to be a catastrophic jerk off the court. The absence of that “cognitive dissonance” is such a smooth high which our current team provides..
And, yeah, being dissapointed by some hyper critical fans is a secondary worst.
Blazersedge is a “best” for sure, especially for out of towners like me to get some community and share the fandom.

by Berkeley on Aug 29, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's ALL Good

1) I love gamedays – thinking about the game that morning, reading any Oregonian sports page stuff about the game/Blazers – looking forward to the game during a hard work day – maybe leaving a little early – getting the Blazer gear on – listening to Wheels & JC on the long drive to Portland, meeting my boys, grapping a beer and a bite, riding the max from downtown with all the crazy fans, the walk past the crazy drummers and ticket scalpers outside the RG, smuggling the $8 bottomless empty cup for $3 soda in my sweatshirt past the ticket takers, feeling the emotion in the corridors and elevators, that great feeling when you actually get inside the arena, seeing your section buddies again, the pre-game, the dancers, the blimp, etc….AND THIS IS ALL BEFORE THE GAME!
2) I love watching the team “Rise”. Seeing the quality of each guy, the great natural chemistry that has developed, the budding star power that many of our guys have.
3) I love it when the RG gets LOUD and you can tell it intimidates the other team. The best momments are during a comeback….we are down 6 late, LA hits a fadeaway, Joel gets a rbd – passes to a streaking TO who stuffs, Rudy steals and nails a 3. Phil calls a time-out. THE CROWD GOES APE!
4) I love the Blazers home record against the fakers.
5) I loved “The Streak”. Let’s do it again.
6) The ride back on the max, the long ride home listening to the post game and re-living the highlights.
7) Planning for the next game.

The bad part is what’s left of $40 after going to the snack bars. That and a $10 beer. But – other than that – It’s ALL good!

by Iluvdisteam on Aug 29, 2009 8:36 AM PDT reply actions  

$10 beers ?

Excuse my ignorance, but, unfortunately, never been to a game.
I am thinking that they could make more profit at, say, $5 a beer due to higher volume. But, then, maybe the idea is “we don’t want that kind of alcohol consumption, things are rowdy enough” (?).
Just a thought.

by Berkeley on Aug 29, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

thirsty thursdays

blazers should have $2 beers on thursdays. now those crowds would be rowdy

by goblazers503 on Aug 29, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

thunder have sales on beer on fridays

………. 6.50 instead of 10

How the hell did that happen? I am Trailblazer fan to the core but I love me some OKC THunder!!! Must be the Hometown pride I feel.

I'll Say it now so you guys can know I'm a true follower: "In Pioli I Trust"
Go Chiefs!!!!!

by bouzi on Aug 29, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

What a deal!

I know less than half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

by haildablazer on Aug 29, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

$10 beer is not entirely accurate

but $8 is bad enough

Two points scored by GO’ = "thunderdunk"

by T$ 225 on Aug 31, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

To which streak are you referring?

The 800+ game sellout streak, unmatched in ALL of professional sports? The 21 year playoff streak, tied for the longest in NBA history and 2nd longest in all of pro sports? Winning streak, such as the 18 game streak in 90-91 or the 13 game streak in 07-08?

Gotta be more specific, haha!

Blazers win!

by The X-man on Aug 29, 2009 1:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Best - being a part of such a devoted, high-intensity fanbase (BE takes this to another level of course)

Worst – well I have two things. One is that I am too young to have experienced anything earlier than the 98-99 season (I was born during the Drexler era) and the other is that the worst of the Jailblazer era (03- to 06 or 07) almost killed off my Blazer fanhood. Luckily this last year brought it back and then some.

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Aug 29, 2009 5:53 PM PDT reply actions  

As someone who has been there longer than you

I was NEVER as excited for a team as I was last year (well except maybe the 63-win season, damn L*Ker$).

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Aug 29, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The year 77-78 right after the championship was the best around here

The Blazers were clearly the best in the league and were romping. I think we had 3 all-stars as well as the coaching staff there. When Big Bill got hurt the air went out but before that there was lightning everywhere and the Blazers were 50-10!

We got excited beyond what we ever had experienced during the 76-77 championship playoffs but the next year upped that a bunch.

This team has a ways to go to rise to that again for us (maybe we are just old and slow now!) but the promise is there,

by lee3022 on Aug 30, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

the guy wearing a jersey in beijing

. . . is a Blazer fan, and that’s great. As a Portland ex-pat living in Minnesota, I’ve met former Portlanders, and they usually are still Blazer nuts, which is fun.

However . . . there was also a vicious Chicago street gang that named itself after the Blazers during the “Jail Blazer” years, adopted their colors and so forth. So wearing Blazer gear in this part of the country can attract the attention of A) fans who go “Roy’s the best” and B) thugs who think you’re a banger from Chi-town . . .

by twinsbrewer on Aug 29, 2009 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Question about Chi-town

1st off, and I don’t mean to pick on you in particular, but I think chopping off the second half of a city’s name and adding “town” has worn out its welcome for me. “P-town” sounds “P-tarded”

2nd – how does one pronouce Chi-town? Is the “Chi” said like in Chicago or China?

Two points scored by GO’ = "thunderdunk"

by T$ 225 on Aug 31, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

My take

The best part is being one with the fanbase at the RG or in the city. I mean no other city would turn out 10-15k people to see a team that MADE THE PLAYOFFS NOTHING MORE! This city is a much happier place when the Blazers are winning.

The other best thing is that passions may lie dormant during down periods (of which there has been exactly one in my lifetime, you know what it is) but people still care deeply.

The worst is obviously not winning it all. I was born in 1981 and so although the Blazers made the playoffs every year until college (except the year after I was born I think), they have never won it in my lifetime. I just want to win it once honestly, then I’ll be happy.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Aug 29, 2009 7:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Forgot one

The best part, listening to the Schnoz every night growing up. The guy was practically the voice of my childhood.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Aug 29, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Easy

Best: the small town passion I share at a genetic level with everyone else in Portland rooting for the Trailblazers.

Worst: Being associated with the crybaby numbskulls who chanted “these refs suck” during the playoffs this year, then being ostracized for calling said numbskulls out for being…wait for it….numbskulls.

Fine, the OLP album grew on me. It's defiantly change.

by SuperDave on Aug 29, 2009 10:05 PM PDT reply actions  

I was at that game

and I chanted that chant

and it was a true statement

"I'm tired" -Me

by 92wastheyear on Aug 30, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Best & Worst

Best: Teams with character that you feel great rooting for. Early 90s team that worked their butts off, and who you could never count out of the game, no matter how far behind. The new Blazers that have great moral fiber and fortitude, even as they learn to play tough team defense.

Worst, is twofold:
- Laziness. Hated paying good money to watch Bonzi mail it in, tune in and out, whatever. Regardless of the outcome, it is absolutely no fun supporting a team that does not play hard.
- Refereeing. Yeah, yeah. I know I should just deal with it. Still I hate having to deal with it. Refereeing has sucked. Even if the NBA has not publicly acknowledged it, there is evidence that they have taken steps to improve the refereeing and in doing so have implicitly acknowledged that a problem existed. Still the steps they have taken are not nearly sufficient, and have yet to take sufficient root.

by FromAfar on Aug 30, 2009 1:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Did anyone hear we signed andre miller?

giggle.

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

"New Man Law: If you don't show up for the draft you don't get to come later if you're picked. If you believe in yourself, show up and sit there. If nobody else believes in you, take it and cry like a man...in front of the cameras."

-Dave

by faith on Aug 30, 2009 12:13 PM PDT reply actions  

The best thing about being a Blazer fan is the knowledge and passion of most of the fans.

The worst thing is having to live in a city with so many flippin’ L*ker fans!

by yenoh's ear on Aug 30, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Can we move on?

 I was around when the blazers won the championship and have been a follower of the team ever since. The teams’ insistence on living in the past and pining over the glory days just makes Portland look pathetic in my eyes. We’re retiring numbers faster than we can print them out. In my opinion, in our effort to celebrate the best of the blazers we bring out the worst, our unquenchable desire to show the rest of the nba how ‘big-time’ we are. Infact I just threw up a little in my mouth just thinking about it.

The best thing about being a blazer fan is watching the team become good again after so many years of mediocrity. There’s something to be said for long-suffering and good things come to those who wait.

by Phi Slamma on Sep 1, 2009 8:42 AM PDT reply actions  

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