What's Next for LaMarcus Aldridge
A few weeks back I asked "What's next for Brandon Roy?" and tried to identify five ways for "B" (lol) to take his game to an even higher level. After his contract extension signing press conference, I got Brandon's thoughts on the matter as well. While Brandon will likely remain the most valuable Portland Trail Blazer until he decides to hang up his Nikes, he is just one of the team's foundational players. Number two on that list, by a mile at this point, remains his 2006 draft classmate LaMarcus Aldridge.
Like Brandon, LaMarcus has already developed into a remarkably complete player on both ends of the court. Unlike Brandon, however, he's managed to do it with just two years of college experience under his belt. Aldridge just turned 24 last month. Please take a moment to process that fully. Unless you prefer Josh Smith, Paul Millsap, Kevin Love, Anthony Randolph or Blake Griffin, and at this point I'm not sure why you would, there's not a better, younger Power Forward currently playing basketball. Although at first glance it might sound absurd given the season B. Roy put together last year, I tend to agree with those who have argued that LaMarcus has a greater ceiling than Brandon.
But this post is not an attempt to compare these two players. Rather, it's an attempt to compare last year's LaMarcus to Future, Ideal LaMarcus. So here are the five developments I would love to see from LMA, developments that I believe are attainable, developments that would combine to put Aldridge in a two-man battle with Chris Bosh for the title of Best NBA Power Forward from 2012-2017.
1. Compel a True Two- Man Game
It's one thing to start every game determined to get LaMarcus going early. It's another thing entirely to ensure that he remains in the flow throughout his time on the floor and that his efficient scoring is being utilized, even late in games. The only person that can ensure the first situation (what we saw last year) morphs into the second situation (what we should see from today onward) is LaMarcus himself.
One of the more surprising moments of last season came during a post-game conversation with Brandon Roy in which Brandon flat out stated that he preferred working without screens and admitted that he often called Aldridge off of plays in order to break down his man off the dribble. Last year, it's hard to argue that this was a very effective, perhaps the most effective, strategy. But going forward I would like to see their two-man game evolve drastically, mostly for LaMarcus's sake.
Turning once again to Synergy Sports' excellent player breakdowns, I was not surprised at all to see Aldridge rated as "good" when it comes to overall scoring effectiveness. Unlike Brandon, however, he wasn't consistently good across all areas; It should come as no real surprise that Aldridge became less and less efficient the further he moved from the hoop.
Here's what jumped out of his profile for me: Aldridge rates "excellent" as a "jump shooter off the dribble" (cashing 50% of those shots, regardless of distance) yet rates "below average" when it comes to catch-and-shooting (40% of those shots, regardless of distance). Coincidentally (or not), Tim Duncan, the Greatest Power Forward Ever, also rates "excellent" and "below average" in those respective categories. What separates Master from Pupil? Duncan took less than 1/2 the catch-and-shoots that Aldridge did last season; in other words, Duncan's liability was significantly less impactful.
Interestingly, Duncan also took less jumpers off the dribble than Aldridge did. And the percentage of their offense that occurred while single covered in the post was nearly identical. So where did Duncan's points come from? Obviously: pick-and-rolls. For mobile big men with both the athletic ability to take a few dribbles and the mobility to set quick, effective screens, there really isn't an easier way to get involved in the offense and get easy points. It should come as no surprise that Tony Parker ("very good") and Manu Ginobili ("excellent") grade out well when it comes to their own pick-and-roll effectiveness. When done right, it's a win-win for ball handler and post man.
Ideally, Andre Miller should be able to immediately impact this situation for the better given his innate feel for his teammates' tendencies and a veteran's understanding of proper court spacing. Indeed, it could very easily turn out that Miller more positively affects Aldridge's development than he does Greg Oden's, simply because Miller has a lot more to work with when it comes to LMA's range and mobility.
Long-term, though, an inability to develop a cohesive, steady two-man game between Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge will become a limiting factor for this team's title hopes.
I would hope to see serious development in this area in 2009-2010 and the onus for this development falls primarily on Aldridge. Brandon has proven that the 1-4 offense is an effective strategy; Aldridge should make it his season-long mission to prove that a two-pronged attack is even more deadly.
2. Become an Elite Pick and Roll Defender
Just as Nic Batum helps lessen the defensive responsibilities that Brandon Roy faces on a night-in, night-out basis, I think it's fair to expect Greg Oden to bear a brunt of the post defense burden, thereby relieving Aldridge. LaMarcus gets knocked for his somewhat modest rebounding numbers and there's no doubt he trails behind some of his peers in terms of being able to influence a game from the defensive block. When it comes to post defense, Aldridge pretty much is what he is. Improvement is possible but a full makeover is unlikely.
Given his body type and skills, I'm not sure it's best for Blazers fans to expect Aldridge to become a serious low-post defensive threat. Rather, I'd prefer to see Aldridge utilize his lateral quickness, length and Basketball IQ (arguably the most underrated aspect of his game), to become an elite pick-and-roll defender. Think KG without the kneeling, woofing and, hopefully, facial hair. Aldridge is one of the few young players with both the physical tools and the raw intelligence to seriously disrupt an opposing team's offensive flow. Have we seen much of this from him yet? I would say no. Some of you might say "never!!!!" But we have seen intensity and dedication. Those are critical first steps.
Pick and roll defense is a part of Aldridge's game that should improve as he continues to grow into a vocal leadership role on this team. No question about it: posts and guards were regularly not on the same page defending screens last season. That responsibility falls on everyone's shoulders but the issue is ultimately resolved if the post defender is confident, clear and consistent in how he manages his own movements and, through verbal communication, those of his teammates. Although Portland still lacks what you would call an elite backcourt defender, a developing Aldridge has the capability to make his teammates look much better this season.
In the longer-term, Aldridge's wingspan and foot speed have the potential to be game-changers in the team's halfcourt defensive sets. Just as Brandon has turned his attention to studying film of LeBron and Kobe working in the pinch post, Aldridge should watch Garnett defensive tapes until he's green in the face.
3. Learn to Love the Fast Break
There has been a non-stop discussion this summer about picking up the pace thanks to the Andre Miller signing. This is another area in which Aldridge stands to be a big-time beneficiary of the Miller acquisition.
Last season, despite playing on the league's slowest team, Aldridge was rated "excellent" in transition by Synergy Sports and he scored well in every phase they measure: leak outs, left wing, right wing, and trailer. Think back through last season and you can probably remember seeing LaMarcus flying down the court with his signature long-stride, catching and finishing with soft hands around the hoop, and throwing down powerful dunks as a trailer.
It's fair to call LaMarcus a multi-threat weapon in transition. His fluidity in the open court, forcefulness at the rim, and ability to draw fouls and convert free throws combine to make him by far the team's most influential big man when it comes to setting and upping the tempo. Whether it's looking to make more forceful outlet passes, creating turnovers that lead to break outs by improving his pick and roll defense as discussed above, or simply enjoying the ride in Miller's slipstream, Aldridge can make a pretty complete case to Nate that he should feel comfortable opening things up.
Great players have a transformative ability to force the game, and sometimes their coach's preferences, to bend to their strengths. LaMarcus wants to be a great player and the transition game is one of his strengths. The table is set.
4. Abandon the Three; Open the Bank
If Aldridge has made observers slap their foreheads and shake their heads over the past few seasons, it's happened when he drifts beyond his 18-20 foot comfort range. And while I've personally witnessed impressive pre-game and practice 3 point shooting displays, Aldridge does a disservice to his team's overall offensive efficiency, not to mention its rhythm, by even considering hucking up treys.
Just because you can make more three pointers than most Power Forwards doesn't mean you should attempt more threes than other Power Forwards. Outside of Dirk, is there a single 4 in the league that you want shooting from that distance? I would say no. Throw on top the fact that his teammates include sharpshooters like Steve Blake, Martell Webster and Rudy Fernanzed (to say nothing of Nicolas Batum, whom Kevin Pelton projects to shoot 97% from distance in 2009) and there really isn't an excuse for Aldridge to roam the deep perimeter.
Rather than spending practice time going around the stripe, I'd like to see Aldridge devote himself to adding bank shots to his repertoire. Do I expect Duncan-level proficiency? No. But an increased comfort level with the backboard from a few different spots on the floor would strengthen his face-up game immeasurably and, over time, create more space for his power dribbles and drop steps. It would also force more double teams which, you guessed it, frees up the team's more proficient three point shooters.
Is developing a weapon of this sort something that happens overnight? Absolutely not. It could realistically take 5 years. But it would be well worth it. Good news: in 5 years Aldridge won't even be 30.
5 . Trust His Handle
One of the more interesting, and promising, notes from his Synergy Sports profile: regardless of whether he's posted up on the left block or the right block, Aldridge chooses to turn to the baseline and to the middle at roughly equal percentages. In other words, he trusted himself to go both left and right no matter where he was in relation to the basket. Greg Oden, by comparison, turns right almost twice as often as he turns left, regardless of whether he's on the left or right block. Same thing for Joel Przybilla. Obviously, Aldridge is a more fluid, coordinated player than both of those guys but hopefully those numbers help given you an idea for exactly how outstanding his versatility and maneuverability is for a player of his height.
So if you're guarding Aldridge, you're preparing for him to go left and to go right. You're also hoping, above all, that he settles for his jumper. Sure he makes a lot of them. But man, he makes a lot of his dunks and layups too. As mentioned above, his scoring effectiveness decreases demonstrably the further he gets from the hoop and his face-up shooting -- even when unguarded -- is the least efficient aspect of his offensive game.
What should Aldridge take from this? That when it comes to putting the ball on the deck, something many seven footers are discouraged from doing, he has a complete green light. Power dribble through the key for a jump hook? Do it. Spin move and drop step to the baseline even in heavy traffic? Do it. Face up, take a between-the-legs dribble or two to get a rhythm or to catch a bigger defender leaning out of position? Do it. Almost anything that involves the ball bouncing on the hardwood then bouncing back up into his hand that moves him in the general direction of the hoop? Do it. Good things will happen: Fouls will be called, dunks will be thrown down, spot-up shooters will be licking their lips.
This is a case where the advanced number breakdowns absolutely support what the inebriated guy in the very last row of the stadium is yelling: "GO TO THE HOOOOOPPPP!" Seriously, do it. Do it. Do it. Do it until every single Rose Garden drunk is satisfied.
Final Thoughts
You've probably noticed a major difference between the steps I've just laid out for LaMarcus and those I listed for Brandon. While I believe this season stands as the time for Brandon to fully embrace the team leadership position, my expectations for LaMarcus are focused exclusively on developing aspects of his own game. Part of that is because, as Kevin Pritchard pointed out, it's easier to lead a team from the backcourt. But a huge part is simply that, as good as Aldridge already is, he still has that much room for improvement. It wasn't that LaMarcus got screwed last year when it came to All-Star voting. He simply wasn't an All Star.
That said, time and again during the second half of last season -- you remember the stretch when every home game seemed like a twenty point blowout -- I was sitting there dumbfounded (as Brother Wendell and the Mercury's Ezra Caraeff can attest), watching LaMarcus do things we'd never seen him do before: truly take over a game, glare at the opposing team's bench after a big dunk in traffic, get in someone's face and have that person back down first.
On more than one occasion this spring, I found myself thinking (often thinking aloud, spraying spit with excitement) that Aldridge is really not that far from becoming the single most entertaining Blazer in franchise history. His combination of pure skill, hustle, length, determination and intelligence is arguably already unmatched.
And that's what makes this post kind of scary. Question: can you imagine watching a LaMarcus Aldridge with these improvements? Better question: is there really anything standing in his way?
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
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He's kinda.... paranoid and .... reserved if you will... no?
I coulda swore that’s what I took away from the he and brandon not being immediate friends article in the oregonian… a year or so ago.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
"New Man Law: If you don't show up for the draft you don't get to come later if you're picked. If you believe in yourself, show up and sit there. If nobody else believes in you, take it and cry like a man...in front of the cameras."
-Dave
I have the same dreams
The guy is SO talented and professional at a young age.
Make sure we get that extension taken care of KP!
put a body on 'em
i liked seeing a bit of his mean glares
and “you can’t do anything about what I am going to do to you” attitude
Woof
by Charles Barkley McLovin on Aug 19, 2009 11:56 PM PDT reply actions
Lma needs to trust his teammates on D more
Scola burned us time and again in the playoffs because Lma provided help to driving guards leaving Scola open for the jumper. Lma can play help defense sometimes but not all the time. Let those other big guys get a crack at the opponents slashers. Yeah Joel and Greg have been known to swat a few balls too. Lma offense is amazing and getting better all the time. But his athleticism gets the Blazers in trouble on defense as he often leaves an open man. That’s okay if you’re playing against a Z-bo who you want to take that outside shot, but not Scola , Stoudemire or Gasols of the league. You got to make them work for it by constantly sticking by them on D. If Lma can play D like ’Sheed then our defense will be set. Until then just keep making us fans proud.
Interesting perspective
I would tend to think the problem was the penetration by the Houston guards and not LA leaving Scola. You can’t give away lay ups to protect against an open 18 footer. If Joel and Oden help, who are they leaving open? Yao. Who would you rather have shoot that 18 footer? Yao or Scola?
PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04
unfortunately
I think the houston series turned out to be a case of pick you poison for us. Scola burned us because that was what we consciously gave up on defense in order to lock down on all the other options that Houston had. The thing that made Houston so deadly was that Yao was unguardable in a 1 on 1 situation, except in a couple of stretches where Oden really played some inspired defense against him. Yao’s advantage in the post opened up lanes for Houston’s guards, who then needed to be locked down by the man on the screener to prevent high percentage buckets at the rim (whiched opened up the screener [usually scola] to take virtually uncontested jumpers).
"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"
-Ron Artest
by premthegrem on Aug 20, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Well Stated.
One of the things we saw all throughout the series with the rockets was a ball leaving Scola’s hands, and going just over the outstretched arm of Lamarcus, because he was a split second late recovering and getting back on his man.
But, at the end of the day, the Rockets series was just one horrible mismatch for us. I would’ve rather faced the Lakers first round, honestly.
Great post
peace everybody.
I am not adding to your post, just asking questions.
Wasn’t LMA assigned to doubling and fronting Yao?
Wouldn’t that take away from the team d?
I have often wondered why is it better to let Scola score 20 than it was to let Yao score 20?
hg
It is better to let Scola score 20 because he is a lot less efficient than Yao
If you let Scola take those 20’ jump shots, he will make some but he will miss a lot too. I you let Yao have his way in the post, he will make a lot of shots and rarely miss.
Miller will make LA an All-star...
I can’t wait to see it. A lot of his growth, and the team’s as a whole, came against Boston in the Rose Garden without Roy on the floor. He was not hitting his outside shot but he kept working to get in the lane and willed the Blazers to victory that night. Not to mention pushing Garnett in the back of the head after a night of cheap, little BS garbage elbows and bumps. That game seemed to propel him into the second half of the season where he showed a lot more than glimpses of the player he will become.
PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04
by tssbro on Aug 19, 2009 11:57 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Didn't include my thought on Miller/LA
The reason I think he will make him an all-star is exactly what you brought up, the transition game. If Miller can get the ball up the floor and into Aldridge before the defense can set and push him out of the block, Aldridge will score at will. A guy who is confident, and accurate, throwing the lob to a guy who can beat just about any defender up the floor will be a killer combo.
PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04
Agree
Get him signed, And then have somebody work with him on post moves and working around the HOOP
I'm glad you didn't mention rebounding
Personally I think rebounds are a bit overrated, and Aldridge was playing with the best rebounding center tandem in the league so he can be excused for not getting double digit rebounds. Plus he gets a decent amount of offensive rebounds. Outside of Dirk is there another 4 you want taking threes? Well Rashard Lewis. Also interesting to note Dirk has taken less threes as he grows older and has become more of a back to the basket, mid range shooter.
by neutroticblazerfan on Aug 20, 2009 12:03 AM PDT reply actions
Each Rebound Counts
Personally I think rebounds are a bit underrated. Every offensive rebound is one more possession for your team. Every defensive rebound is one less offensive possession for your opponent.
The Blazers were a good rebounding team last year, but were outhustled by Houston in the playoffs. That’s one reason they lost.
In my opinion, there are very few areas in basketball more important than rebounding.
by BlazerNation on Aug 21, 2009 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions
While offensive rebounding is possibly underrated
defensive rebounding (at least on an individual player level) is one of the more overrated stats around. I know this website and the data are from last year (the guy is currently one of Daryl Morey’s analyst minions so he can’t post any of his work), but there’s some pretty clear evidence that there’s some serious diminishing returns on defensive rebounding, i.e. lineups that statistically you’d expect extremely poor defensive rebounding performance from tend to rebound much better than their expectations while lineups you’d expect extremely good defensive rebounding performance from perform worse.
<a href=“http:// ”http://www.countthebasket.com/blog/2008/02/23/more-diminishing-returns/" target="_blank">http://www.countthebasket.com/blog/2008/02/23/more-diminishing-returns/" target="new">Diminishing Returns in Rebounding
As an example from this year, based on their individual rebound rates, we’d expect a Blake (8.4%), Rudy (10.1%), Roy (11.6%), Outlaw (14.6%) and Aldridge (15.6%) to rebound roughly 60.3% of another team’s misses, which would be horrendous. In actuality, that lineup rebounded 75% of the available defensive rebounds, which is pretty solid.
Swap Travis in that lineup with Joel (33.1%), and our expected performance would be 78.8% as a team. In actuality, the team defensive rebounding got worse (70.6%). While the first lineup may be an outlier of sorts, it’s simply the lineup sans Joel or Greg that played the most.
RT: The Blazers were a good rebounding team last year, but were outhustled by Houston in the playoffs
I don’t think that this disparity can be mentioned too often, especially re: the debate that the Blazers still need more “toughness and physicality” at the backup PF position
veteran experience (moxie) is important in the post season, and always has been. You don’t just want a roster of young/skinny leapers
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Its often been said that LMA has the most potential of any Blazer.
I believe after the OKC game where LMA had 35 and 18, Nate said something like “If he wants it, he could own this league, but he has to want it.” He’s the Blazer that gets me the most excited when you talk about about potential.
PS- Does he have a nickname yet? I’ve heard people say he’s like a gazelle, cheetah, greyhound etc. Someone should come up with something that reflects that.
Call Brandon Roy by his real nicknames: The Natural and Roybot. Lets put an end to "B-Roy"
well, he runs the court
like Usain Bolt
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
So his nickname should be LaMarcus Lightning?
(Bolt’s nickname is Lightning Bolt due to his name, speed, and victory gesture)
I fear we are stuck with LMA, LA and L-Train until further notice.
I heard someone call him Insane Bolt today
In a no diss,nothing but respect way
by southern oregon on Aug 20, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions
19:19 in the 200 meters?
that is an insane number
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Just to continue the comparison...
You can’t compare Brandon to LMA. It’s like comparing an oarnge from the oarnge crop two years ago to the apple picked today. It can’t be done. It shouldn’t be tried.
That said, LMA does have incredible upside. The two things I’d really like to see from him this year are better consistency and tougher defense.
by BlazerNation on Aug 21, 2009 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions
To be honest I don't think Brandon has that much higher of a ceiling than LaMarcus. I can
see Aldridge turing into the best power forward in the league eventually. Do we see Brandon being better than Wade any time soon? Maybe. They both have super star talent.
Aldridge in my opinion has more talent and value than Amare. His attitude is so important because Amare has finally showed he is a loser. Blazers got to HOF’s in my opinion right there.
and I bring up Amare because we all know how highly regarded he was just a few years ago. I think Aldridge can reach that
level.
by BRoyInThe4th on Aug 20, 2009 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Yea, Amare just fell of the face of the earth
I think he’ll rebound this year.
"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"
-Ron Artest
by premthegrem on Aug 20, 2009 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
He hasn't fallen off the face of the earth.
It is more the case of our instant gratification, 24/7, multiple media outlet obscessive society elevating and then casting aside people just so they have something to talk about and can feel as if they are influencial.
Don’t let the fact that the Suns were exploring the market with him last season lead you to believe he’s suddenly lost his ability to play basketball. That was more likely due to financial considerations than anything else. If you will note, it was Shaq that ended up being moved, not Amare.
hakkaa päälle !
I'll be happy for Amar'e if his retina heals completely.
I’d be even happier if he would improve his attitude and play a little D.
Wow, I had to take a step back early on after reading this remark.
“LaMarcus has already developed into a remarkably complete player on both ends of the court.”
Yeah, uh, the only thing on defense LaMarcus Aldridge is decent at is one-on-one perimeter defense, which doesn’t mean squat for a supposed power forward. Except for the rare player like Jared Jefferies, that being someone’s lone defensive skill is worthless if their man-to-man interior defense and weakside help defense is putrid.
Even then, it’s foolish that folks have called Jeffries a defense stopper — as he’s soft as Charmin compared to a stout, hard-nosed low-post defensive stalwart like Jeff Foster — therefore, it’s utterly absurd that anybody would ramble on about Aldridge being a complete defender. Aldridge is below average on defense, pure and simple
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
I was watching a replay of a Warriors game and their announcers were talking about how Aldridge was known for his
defense when he was drafted. He usually has more blocks than Oden did last year too. I’ve seen Aldridge slap balls off out of post players hands so many times. I wouldn’t say he is below average. Look how a scrub gets abused when Aldridge comes out, and see how things get under control right away when Aldridge comes back in the game.
by BRoyInThe4th on Aug 20, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Blocked shots aren't really an indication of general defensive skill.
They’re more indicative of athleticism, timing, and just being good at blocking shots. Blocks (and steals) have little to do with how good a player’s defense is during most of the game.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
And yet...
they are key defensive stops. You can’t talk about defense and ignore blocks and steals, just like you can’t talk about defense and ONLY talk about blocks and steals.
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Aug 20, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right, but it's just a small percentage of successfully defended possessions that end in blocks/steals.
You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.
RT: I’ve seen Aldridge slap balls off out of post players hands so many times
Good memory. LMA has that Karl Malone “block the shot below the shoulders” move down pat
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
do you disagree with other parts of Ben's take as well?
Or was that the only offending remark?
"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"
-Ron Artest
by premthegrem on Aug 20, 2009 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions
AK likes to think of himself as a basketbal savant.
It causes him to let his intelligence get in the way of common sense. Let’s remember that he’s in love with Mike Miller.
hakkaa päälle !
by timg56 on Aug 20, 2009 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's Mike Miller's
hair.
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Aug 20, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He kept his opponents to a PER of 15.5 on defense. So around the league average (15). He is on a level with Amar'e on that end.
On the other end he produced a 21.6, which puts him close to All-Star level. LMA gave up 22.8 when playing C while producing 22.8, where he truly is a net negative, so you can say there he is a liability. On/off stats don’t help much in LMA’s case with who backed him up.
Your beloved hard nosed Jeff Foster by the way achieved 17.9 on PF and 18 on C. Which is below league average, and about on a level with renowned defensive stalwart Erick Dampier. With an own PER of 12.9 and 15.1 he is a net negative of -5 and -2.9. Utterly absurd, isn’t it?
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
by Norsktroll on Aug 20, 2009 1:27 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jeff Foster gets so much white guy hype.
Hard nosed defender, great hustle, tough, hard worker, blah, blah, blah, blah…
by Nick Van Excellent on Aug 20, 2009 5:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I've never been an advocate of Opponent PER as a stat when analyzing a given player's defense.
Instead, I like using Net Points Allowed Per 100 Possessions and Net eFG% Allowed. In that regard, Aldridge was above average in the first metric (-1.6) and below average in the second metric (+1.1%). Yet, that takes a hit when considering the fact that his two primary backups, Travis Outlaw and Channing Frye, were both awful defensively.
Now, with regards to position metrics, Aldridge shot a worse eFG% than his opponent at both power forward and center. However, the difference at power forward (1.8%) was minimal compared to how opposing centers had an eFG% that was 9.5% higher than him when he played the pivot.
With that noted, let’s do a comparison of Aldridge to Jeff Foster with those statistical measurements.
Net Points Allowed Per 100 Possessions: Foster (-5.3) > Aldridge (-1.6)
Net eFG% Allowed: Foster (-2.2%) > Aldridge (+1.1%)
Opponent eFG% @ C: Foster (50.4%) > Aldridge (59.5%)
Opponent eFG% @ PF: Foster (49.5%) > Aldridge (50.3%)
eFG% Difference @ C: Foster (3.1% Better) > Aldridge (9.5% Worse)
eFG% Difference @ PF: Aldridge (1.8% Worse) > Foster (5.8% Worse)
Foster is better than Aldridge at each of those stats sans eFG% differential at power forward, although that’s explained by his mediocre mid-range jump shot. If Foster could just bring his percentage on the occasional pick-and-pop play to around 36% — which certainly isn’t impossible, since he did it during the 2007-2008 season — then his game would mesh perfectly with the Portland Trail Blazers.
Obviously, I’m not a fan of power forwards relying mostly on 18-foot jumpers via the pick-and-pop; yet, that’s undoubtedly a staple in Nate McMillan’s offense for players at that position. Of course, I’d like to see Foster brought in and used in a role similar to that of Nick Collison during the 2004-2005 Seattle SuperSonics Northwest Division banner season.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
So you are arguing that Portland would be better served ...
… with Jeff Foster as our PF rather than Aldridge?
hakkaa päälle !
Apparently so
or else those statistics aren’t that valuable.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
I'd love to see AK's team assembled
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
Ironically, I dislike Troy Murphy, Tyler Hansbrough, Travis Diener, et al.
While I have a penchant for hard-nosed players, ethnicity isn’t a factor. As a Seattle SuperSonics fan a few years back, I supported Nick Collison over Chris Wilcox and Earl Watson over Luke Ridnour. As y’all can see in those examples, ethnicity didn’t play a part in my decision-making process; instead, my focus was on style of play.
Why do I like Jeff Foster, Kirk Hinrich, and guys of that ilk? The answer is because they’re tough, rugged yeomen who know their role play their ass off each and every game—especially on defense.
Now, Mike Miller is an altogether different deal. I like him in the same way some of y’all love Rudy Fernandez. Y’know, their sweet-shooting, old-school offensive style of cutting, passing, and draining long-range buckets at an efficient rate is a treat to watch as a fan.
As much as I detest Travis Outlaw chucking 20-foot jumpers like a selfish maniac, I enjoy Miller playing selfless team basketball—even when ignorant folks ruthlessly mock him for it.
It wasn’t at all Miller’s fault he got stuck playing point forward alongside a craptastic backcourt of undersized shooting guard Randy Foye and an abysmal point guard in Sebastian Telfair last season. To be frank, Miller made the most of a dire situation; thus, he should be commended for it.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
Man don't even try
Miller was horrible last year. Horrible. I mean he was just horrible.
32 minutes 10 points, 4.5 assists? And after Jeffs went down, he didn’t step in and pick it up? He racked up a difference of -.7 against his opponent, and -0.2 on/off court.
And its not exactly like he had a stellar other unit that was just showing him up. last year he was just straight bad.
And I didn’t even realize this until the Wiz trade, and couldn’t believe they’d want to offload him. It wasn’t until I talked to some of the people from Canis Hoopus that I looked up his numbers and realized/was convinced of what an in the tank season he had.
"The faster you begin an opponent’s blow-out, the more shots everyone will get." - El Blog Ilusorio de Rudy
"The cake was a lie..." -blazeraddict
Mike Miller was stuck with awful teammates, which include Al Jefferson.
Any team with Jefferson as its centerpiece is doomed to failure, as was with the Portland JailBlazers during Zach Randolph’s heyday. Although Jefferson isn’t a total tool off the court like Randolph, he’s nevertheless an offensively inefficient and defensively inept interior player.
Players such as Randolph and Jefferson aren’t winners, but rather losers.
If Miller had swapped places with Hedo Turkoglu last season, y’all would be singing the praises of the girly-haired man at this very moment. If Miller was given talented teammates and a smart coach with whom he can play a fluid style of basketball, he’d be a premier player.
On that note, I’d look for Vince Carter to finally shut up all of his haters. With the Orlando Magic, Carter is in position to renew his once budding legacy.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
How ironic
That you would condemn Al Jefferson for giving you minimally efficient volume scoring but not a whole lot else in the comments on an article praising LaMarcus Aldridge as the league’s best up-and-coming young power forward (because apparently he gets bonus points for potential by being a year younger than Chris Bosh, but none of Anthony Randolph, Kevin Love, or Blake Griffin get any for being four years younger than him).
As a Minnesota fan, let me tell you the same thing that pretty much any Canis Hoopus poster you talk to would: we frickin’ hate Mike Miller. Yes, Sebastian Telfair isn’t much of an offensive threat, but he’s a skilled passer who can run an offense. He can certainly drive and kick better than Miller, who nonetheless took it upon himself to do it, which meant the kickouts were coming to Bassy instead.
More than that, Miller straight up passed up open looks last season. Had he been more like Jefferson, he might have looked for his own shot a little more often, realizing that it may hurt his overall scoring efficiency, but he’d still be scoring more efficiently than his less talented teammates, perhaps helping the Wolves to a few more wins. Instead he chose to preserve his stellar TS% while adding a few assists, so that people like you would applaud his all-around game. What looks like unselfishness was actually just the opposite.
You won't find AK praising LMA much
So don’t worry; he hates him too.
LMA getting praised on a Blazers site over Randolph (who knows if he’ll even get playing time under Nelly), Kevin Love (double double machine, but is he more?) or Blake Griffin (the best undersized PF since Michael Beasley) isn’t that out of line.
Mike Miller was very weird this recent season. He didn’t play well or do anything when I watched, and you’re certainly not the only Wolves fan who saw him flat out refuse to shoot the ball even when open. I’m not really a huge Miller fan, but it was just odd how he played.
I wonder what the whole story is.
Mortimer
Don't let AK bother you
We like him, but not because of his Mike Miller love. He has this thing over certain players that can’t be explained. He is still mourning over the forlorn hope that Hinrich might have come to Portland.
The All-AK team would start Hinrich, Mike Miller, Jeff Foster, and Joel Przybilla. Not sure who the fifth starter would be, but I am sure we’ll know before long.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
Chase Budinger.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
by Cablinasian on Aug 21, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
What, he has girly hair, too?
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
he’s the fifth starter, another AK favorite.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
by Cablinasian on Aug 22, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions
Wow, a role player had a bad season on a bad team
That never happens!
For some random reason, Miller just never shot the ball last year. It’s something that you wouldn’t expect to continue, especially since he’s on a better team now with a higher chance of making the playoffs.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 21, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with AK in that I consider Foster the better defensive player
Aldridge is obviously a much more gifted offensive player.
He's a great rebounder
One of the best. Very good role player.
But, he isn’t very big and not very athletic when guarding STARTING PFs and Cs, and he isn’t a defensive stopper or anything like that amongst big men. He works hard and is tough, but overmatched against starters. Against backup bigs (of which he is one), he’s perfect.
I’d love to have Jeff Foster as a backup.
As a starter, he’ll be overmatched. LMA doesn’t get overmatched, he loses focus on weakside help and doesn’t guard the bucket, but he wins his matchup. Foster is a very nice and underrated role player, but he’d be a bad starter. Awesome backup though.
Mortimer
LMAdoesn’t get overmatched, he loses focus on weakside help and doesn’t guard the bucket, but hewins his matchup.
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Aug 20, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
to clarify I'm not saying Zbo is better than LMA
and David West might not be either, but both generally own LMA.
Look at the age of all those players.
Jeff Foster wins the match up against…Darrell Arthur.
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Aug 20, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeff Foster would defend better than LaMarcus Aldridge against Kevin ...
Garnett, Tim Duncan, Pau Gasol, and most any other elite power forwards.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
nah
but Foster could backup LMA for 10-12 mpg, then be ready to play more in case of foul trouble or injury to one of the centers
Foster >>>> Outlaw defending the post and rebounding in the playoffs, as well
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Foster and Przybilla isn’t an effective lineup, as neither of them can shoot from distance.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
I reject the idea that you need either your 4 or your 5 to be able to shoot from distance
that pairing isn’t good, because neither of them can play offense at all, not because neither can shoot from the outside.
I should have said… shoot from any distance. If one of them could make a little baseline jumper, it might work.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
then use 'em to set double screens
and run Rudy/Martell off the screens and let Blake feed ’em for jumpers
Joel and Foster could crash the boards and score off of put-backs, or kick the ball back out and set it all up, again. We’re only talking about 5-6 minutes per half, it’s not going to be the main staple of the team’s offensive production
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Jeff Foster can hit a jump shot at around 32% to 36% on just over one-third ...
of his field-goal attempts, which’d be adequate for a backup power forward who plays exceptional defense. Besides, Joel Przybilla and Foster wouldn’t play next to each other except for short spurts.
Oh, and with regards to Foster v. Travis Outlaw, the former destroys the latter at defense.
Net Points Allowed Per 100 Possessions: Foster (-5.3) > Outlaw (2.0)
Net eFG% Allowed: Foster (-2.2%) > Outlaw (-1.8%)
Opponent eFG% @ PF: Foster (49.5%) > Outlaw (54.6%)
eFG% Difference @ PF: Outlaw (-2.7%) > Foster (-5.8%)
Net Offensive Rebounding Percentage: Foster (3.4%) > Outlaw (-1.9%)
Net Defensive Rebounding Percentage: Foster (3.6%) > Outlaw (-2.5%)
Rebounds Per 48 Minutes Difference @ PF: Foster (5.4) > Outlaw (-0.3)
If y’all want to watch smart, team-oriented basketball, then you’d definitely rather have Foster on your favorite team over Outlaw.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
We can run the Princeton offense!
it’ll be great!
And as long as your definition of smart, team-orientated basketball has nothing to do with making buckets, making free throws, or spreading the court.
And your definition has to do with rebounding, zone defense, the rest of your team being so horrible that your numbers shine, and getting to Country Kitchen before they stop serving the Senior breakfast, then I believe you are correct sir.
"The faster you begin an opponent’s blow-out, the more shots everyone will get." - El Blog Ilusorio de Rudy
"The cake was a lie..." -blazeraddict
I'm actually not into the Princeton offense. I prefer the slow-paced, ...
methodical Hawk offense run by Mike Fratello — although Hubie Brown created it — during his stints with Atlanta, Cleveland, and Memphis.
Now, with that said, I enjoy some varations of the Princeton offense, with Rick Adelman’s flex motion as a prime example. Other smooth motion-based offenses exist across the NBA today, too, such as Jerry Sloan’s modern-day use of the UCLA high-post offense that was first employed by John Wooden.
Yet, the problem with the Portland Trail Blazers as currently assembled is that the team doesn’t have a slashing, baseline driving small forward on the team who’d thrive in the abovementioned Hawk offense.
Nicolas Batum could someday fill that role, but Martell Webster lacks the speed, athleticism, and handles to ever play in that manner. That is also not Travis Outlaw’s forte, either.
One of countless folks’ favorite non-Blazers here, Gerald Wallace, would be optimal for that spot, but the price would be too steep to acquire him.
Anyway, that’s not in the cards. Nate McMillan’s high-low zone offense is here to stay for the foreseeable future. Yet, a lot of the right pieces are in place to effectively run that fairly simple, albeit effecient offense.
I, therefore, can’t justifiably hate on it, but McMillan’s massively overrated coaching on the defensive side of the ball still scares the hell out of me.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
Actually I'm totally with you on
Adelman’s flex, I am a huge fan of cutting offense, and while I think Martell can handle that spot, one player is definitely not a reason to completely change the team style.
The UCLA style high post is what I played in high school, you need a big man with some handles though to really use that as effectively as possible (but a PF with a nice jump shot and nice passing will do fine [LA?]), but I definitely like how it opens the lane up, and once again leaves a spot for a cutting wing.
Nate’s defense is definitely a concern to me, I don’t think he does a great job of getting everyone on the same page, as evidenced with Greg chasing the PG instead of hedging the screens, and the Blazers constantly seemed to be too focused on defending their own player, and then when they would go to help the next player would fail to rotate, which seems like something that Nate would/should teach.
"The faster you begin an opponent’s blow-out, the more shots everyone will get." - El Blog Ilusorio de Rudy
"The cake was a lie..." -blazeraddict
and also not teaching other defensive styles
and how to defeat them. I mean how many times did Dallas just throw a zone at us and despite our impressive three point shooting ability, we would just flounder, it was really bizarre. Like our offense was somehow predicated on getting one on one matchups.
The offense I currently coach is a straight motion offense, which works well with younger kids because you can teach them the skills they need fairly easily, and give them a couple of on the ball driving moves, and the other teams don’t know what hit them, but in the NBA I sometimes wonder whether the motion-style-offenses either allow teams to over-achieve or do they have some inherent weakness that causes the teams to stumble in the playoffs?
"The faster you begin an opponent’s blow-out, the more shots everyone will get." - El Blog Ilusorio de Rudy
"The cake was a lie..." -blazeraddict
Well, Stan Van Gundy seems to successfully run a really ...
simple 4-outside/1-inside motion offense that you’d see with a middle school team that doesn’t have the size and strength to compete straight up with bigger opposition.
Even with Brandon Bass now in Orlando and Rashard Lewis suspended for 10 games to start the season, I don’t expect wholesale changes from Van Gundy. Instead, he’ll probably just shift to a 3-outside/2-inside motion offense.
Anyway, it’s pretty easy to stifle the high-low zone offense with a run-of-the-mill 3-2 zone defense. The funny thing is that 3-2 zone defense are notoriously weak at guarding the high-post;
Yet, that gave LaMarcus Aldridge and Travis Outlaw free reign to launch inefficient 20-foot jump shots, which is exactly what the Dallas Mavericks wanted in that situation.
Brandon Roy was stifiled up top on iso plays by Jason Kidd, shooters from beyond the arc at the 1 and 3 were rotated on by Josh Howard and Jason Terry, and the paint was locked down by Erick Dampier and Dirk Nowitzki; hence, #7 couldn’t drive down the lane.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
by AK1984 on Aug 20, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's a great set of points
"The faster you begin an opponent’s blow-out, the more shots everyone will get." - El Blog Ilusorio de Rudy
"The cake was a lie..." -blazeraddict
The answer to that
is to find a way to get Greg Oden untracked in the low post. That would break down that defense pretty quickly. We needed a real low post threat against that defense.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
I don't care what the numbers are...
…if you can use them to convince yourself Jeff Foster is better than LMA they are wrong.
by Ilikeemall on Aug 20, 2009 11:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
That's classic
Norsk owns AK
I'm a really really ridiculously good looking orange mocha frappaccino drinking manhammer sandwich
Every AK post reminds me of Rushmore

“He’s a sharp little guy.”

“He’s one of the worst students we’ve got. "
dinasour type of guys choir boys
by mittsabishy on Aug 20, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Actually, Opponent PER is a weak statistical metric regarding defense.
I don’t suspect that most people realize that, though, so it’s all good in my book.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
I would submit that he's average
Then again the ‘average’ has slipped in recent decades
Blazer Fan
by leeroyjenkins on Aug 20, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Big things ahead
I think LMA is well on his way and this will be a big year for him. With playoff experience, Roy stepping up as a solid leader, and a confident and experienced team around him he has everything he needs to become an All-Star. If he can get hungry like Roy is and buy into this idea of grinding it out to compete for a ring, then he could be very special.
I agree 100% with point #5, I want to see him take it to the rim every time. I’d love to see his confidence level go up in that regard, to believe he can posterize anyone in his way and attack them instead of settling for a jump shot, even though his jump shots are beautiful.
Well...
I want to see him being able to diversify his game. If he starts the game with a couple jumpers, then the pick and roll opens up. I personally would love to see him develop some legitimate post moves. Maybe a nice little spin, like you see Yao do. Or a hook, of some sort. As it is right now, he does all his damage with his face to the basket, generally in the form of an occasional drive, or the jumper. If he can develop some more back to the basket moves, I doubt he’ll be able to be shut down by anyone.
Take it to the hoop, LaMarcus
Please, please, please.
You will A) draw fouls B) get dunks C) shoot better from outside because they will have to back off and respect the drive.
#3, the fastbreaking, is just going to happen. He already loves the fastbreak, and we’re going to see a lot more of it from the team this year, which means LMA is going to destroy some people.
And as he does, his defensive rebounding, which isn’t great, will matter less because his opposite number can’t crash the boards as hard — he has to get back because LMA has just dunked on three fast breaks in a row, and you can’t let him get the fourth.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
by jscot on Aug 20, 2009 3:30 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Amen
Lamarcus shoots, rebounds, and defends better when he’s in attack mode.
There’s really no reason anyone should be able to stop him.
Lamarcus floating around the perimeter waiting to hoist a contested 20 foot jumper is a liability.
Lamarcus running, rebounding, scowling, and attacking the bucket is one of the best PFs in the league.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
He needs to raise the level of his game in the clutch to be considered among the elite PFs.
He looks to me like a guy that thinks a bit too much in the last few minutes of games. He’s hit some big shots, but more often Nate has had more confidence in Brandon and Travis in those situations. Its more than just getting the opportunity. He needs to want to dominate his guy in those situations.
by 52therim on Aug 20, 2009 6:53 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I likes me some LMA but I think you're overrating him a little at this point
Right now he shoots jumpers and run the floor sometimes. He’s an average, at best, rebounder and defender.
If LMA is ever going to be anything other than a poor man’s Rasheed Wallace he’s going to have to bulk up and get a little meaner and go mix it up a little in the middle. It’s that simple.
Blazer Fan
You described him when he is at his worst
He did not play as you described for most of the second half of the season. He did take the ball to the hoop and rebound more as the season went on.
PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04
LA recognizing his own potential!
Improvement priorities:
1= Assertiveness—Putting his stamp on the game instead of making Brandon do it every game. A willingness to he the hero or the goat. An attitude of continually probing for his opponents weakness and putting the pressure on the other player, other team, to stop him.
2= Leadership—Let his teammates know that when the game is in the balance, he is willing to take the responsibility along with Brandon. I.e. "get me the darn ball." Brandon 1a, Lamarcus truly 1b. (Aldridge picks up a greater portion of the 4th quarter shots and responsibility from Outlaw and Roy.)
3= Passing—With assertiveness comes playmaking when the defenses adjust to stop you. To take the next step, he is will have to become a better than average passer. Make them pay. (Note: #3 becomes especially effective after establishing #1 and #2.)
4= Get hard, ruthless, and mean (insensitive) as a basketball player—I am not talking off the court, I am talking about having an attitude on the court. "My team is going to win this game, and who the heck are you to keep me from becoming an all star, and my team from winning a championship?" "Sorry, but we can be buddies later. Maybe very much later!" "Oh, and by the way, I don’t care if I miss a shot, I am going to keep comin at ya!"
There is more to an athlete than how fast they can run, they also better be able to see what they are doing and know why they are doing it.
3= Passing
This is one of the aspects that Ben left out…LMA is going to have to learn to play “off” of Roy and Greg, and develop a high-low post “chemistry” to feed Oden the post entry pass. Then, be “available” to knock down the elbow jumper when his man leaves to double GO…similar to Scola-Yao last April
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Very nice piece Ben.
Glad to see someone recognizing what a gem we have in LaMarcus. How some people here can be so critical of the guy is beyond me.
And for those who would jump all over his defense, let us remember that defense is a skill that is more about hard work, dedication, intelligence and experience than it is about any sort of athletic ability. Aldridge has three of the four above, as well as an abundance of athletic ability. The defense will come. Just give it time.
hakkaa päälle !
If the whole is greater then the parts.
With communications and Chemistry isn’t team defense more important then individual D. Most generally the offensive player has the advantage because they know the play. Therefore individual D can take a beating. Isn’t that when team Defense becomes important and greater then all the parts?
hg
My ignorance of the game.
All my life I have just watched games for entertainment. Now I am realizing there is always games being played inside the game.
Q 1 If BRoy plays better one on one and breaking down his man and LMA would do better on pick and Rolls, how does a coach find a middle ground?
Q 2 If BRoy is the franchise player wouldn’t his demands always take priority?
Q 3 Can’t the coach demand LMA posting up more?
Q 4 It has been said over and over again that LMA needs to be proactive, Will that come in time or will it have to be initiated?
That is enough of exposing my ignorance of the game inside the game. Always before it was who made spectacular plays and who didn’t now I am learning why. I am not sure I wouldn’t prefer to go back to the beginning without the complications.
hg
I only know the answer to #3.
"LaMarcus will get his touches," McMillan said. "We want to take advantage of him running the floor and getting deep post position." -nba.com
McMillan has made Aldridge the man in the middle and has even told the team that he wants the ball in the post when Aldridge gets deep positioning. It’s a part of Aldridge’s game that is under constant development.
“To win in this league, you have to be able to go into the post,” McMillan added.-Hoopsworld
I specifically remember an interview in which Aldridge said the coaching staff was constantly yelling “deep” at him during games. Basically imploring him to get deep post position. He said it got to the point where he was almost tired of hearing it because they said it so much. I’m not making this up, but I couldn’t find the article.
So yes, I think everyone and their grandmother wants LMA to post up more. If he does it or not is up to him at this point.
by Nick Van Excellent on Aug 20, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Stop making things up
Yeah, my theory about LMA is that it takes him a bit to get comfortable with a new offensive move, a way to play, etc, and he defaults to what he is comfortable with.
Being a skinny guy for forever, he wasn’t used to establishing deep post position the best he could. But, now that he is a man and a skilled offensive player, it is how he is best used. It was easier to get the jumper, so he’d just go with that too often.
The coaching staff, management, hell even dumb stupid babies know that he is better inside. No one is telling him not to be where he is best used.
That’s probably why they say it is up to LMA to be as good as he wants to be.
Morty
RT: Q 1 If BRoy plays better one on one and breaking down his man and LMA would do better on pick and Rolls, how does a coach find a middle ground?
A: Have LMA run P&Rs with Andre Miller
Then, when Roy sees how effective it is (and the fact that he doesn’t have to take as much pounding to score or draw fouls) Brandon will be less likely to “wave LMA off”
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This piece really gets me pumped to see Aldridge's contract get done.
You could have saved yourself hundreds of words, Ben, by just saying “Aldridge: Beast mode Full-time.” Of course, your way is better. Loved it.
Dunk
by Billy Ray Bates on Aug 20, 2009 8:36 AM PDT reply actions
The more inside he plays
The better LMA is. We don’t need long jumpers— I am glad he can make it, but his overreliance on it makes for the 3 for 11 night he can have sometimes, but gets covered up by the 20+ game where he is hitting his shots.
The only offensive games he has duplicated and will duplicate are when he stays inside and works the post. The running hook (my favorite shot of his), the turnaround, the baseline fake— he has a good post game, especially for someone without the rep for a post game. He is always very successful when he stays down low.
We all can see it, the numbers reinforce it, and I’m sure the team’s internal stats reflect it as well.
Now defensively… he is not a strong inside presence, but I think he is underrated on defense. He always plays his man hard, shows very well on pick and rolls (an underrated attribute in bigs), moves his feet, gets a lot of deflections and is great at pressuring the ball. BUT, he either forgets or is worried about foul trouble when offering weakside help, and just like on offense he isn’t always as aggressive as he should be.
I don’t think he’ll ever be an above average shot blocker or rebounder, and normally that is a problem, but not with Oden and Joel on the team. We’ll likely always wish he was better at both, though.
I think he has a lot more offensive potential left to mine, but even if he just focuses on what he clearly does well and forgets about long jumpers more often, he’ll have great offensive improvement— or at least, be the post-allstar break LMA we loved.
His defense will keep improving as he continues to get stronger, more experienced, and more savvy. He is a versatile defensive weapon though, be able to trap fullcourt, cover any perimeter player, and with the size and length to cover pretty much any PF. You don’t put him on a true center… he’s not strong or big enough.
LMA is a new-age PF, and Oden is an old fashioned true center. I really like that combo.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Aug 20, 2009 8:51 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
His running hook is great.
It seemed like Houston really planned for it though. Someone would cut him off as soon as he made his first step and it didn’t look like he was comfortable anymore. Damn Rick Adelman and his army of scouts. Giving away our secrets and whatnot.
by Nick Van Excellent on Aug 20, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree
And I think we’ve seen that when LMA isn’t comfortable, he’s not as effective, and he reverts to jumpers.
With more experience and continually adding offensive moves (like he has every few months in the league), this won’t really happen as much.
But he had just sorta mastered that nice high percentage running hook, and then the Rockets stop it before he is comfortable with a counter move. They are jerks.
M—
Agreed, LA seems to do much better in the post against bad teams
He’s got a move or two down, but his counters seem really rudimentary at best. Against teams with poor post defenders, this isn’t a big deal because the defender isn’t good enough to stop the one move. Against better teams, the team defense is smart enough to hedge a guy to prevent the one move (not difficult to do without compromising the rest of the defense), and he becomes much less effective.
I’d be really interested to see shot charts with his eFG% from various spots on the floor against teams in the top 5-10 in defensive efficiency compared to teams in the lower half. While the data is out there from the NBA hot spots utility, it’s not organized in an easily gatherable manner, so I’m much too lazy to compile it meaningfully.
He's also done well traditionally against Tim Duncan
In my opinion, he’s done well against nearly all PFs (even the great ones, like Duncan), but he has problems with gimmicky defenses… like when Maggette was flopping every time down court, or with a muscly low-center-of-gravity guy like Houston has.
He doesn’t turn the ball over hardly ever, so the harassing double teams and having little guys on him doesn’t stop the team, but he hasn’t done well against those sort of defenses.
If my memory is serving me correctly.
M—
take Yao away from Scola, Hayes, Landry, etc
And I suspect LMA will give them trouble on the low box
Ming’s block of LMA early in game 1 got into #12’s head
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despite his size, Hayes is one of the best low post defenders in the league
The dude gave Gasol fits on the block when he was in. Thinking that LA could do better doesn’t really make sense.
RT: Damn Rick Adelman and his army of scouts. Giving away our secrets and whatnot.
If every NBA coach had a Yao Ming to clog the middle I’d be more concerned
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Love the running hook
I’m sure there were times LMA didn’t score when he tried that sweeping hook… I just can’t remember those times. If 82games.com kept an eFG% of running hooks, Lamarcus would be sitting around 94%.
I think Morty hit the nail on the head here… so much of Lamarcus’s improvement could come from a change of emphasis. Less jumpers. More inside. Throughout his career, LMA has taken about 2/3 jumpers and 1/3 inside shots. As some of us around here have been saying for a while now, he needs to flip that percentage – no more than 1/3 of shots should be jumpers. He would be an all-star and one of the best offensive PFs in the game with that simple adjustment.
When Lamarcus has confidence, he’s a nightmare for opposing defenses. And when he attacks the bucket, he gets confidence. It’s a little bit of a chicken/egg dilemma – does he attack the bucket because he’s playing with confidence, or is he playing with confidence because he’s attacking the bucket? – but the point is, he can’t be stopped inside and he stops himself too often by jacking up 20 foot jumpers.
Q: Is Greg favoring his knee?
Frye: He favors dunking on your head, that's what he favors.
by KP Corleone on Aug 20, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry, Dave i have to take issue with this:
Coincidentally (or not), Tim Duncan, the Greatest Power Forward Ever
Tim Duncan is a center and always has been. I don’t care what San Antonio (and Duncan himself?) prefers to label him as for a variety of reasons, he’s a center.
That said, great post!
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
oops, my bad
I saw an early morning post, and just assumed.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
RT: Tim Duncan is a center
As soon as the Admiral retired, this is true
In my book, Karl Malone was the best PF in NBA history
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
+92
I made this almost exact comment (word for word) in another post
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by 92wastheyear on Aug 20, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I call him Marcus not L.A.(man I cant stand that)
1-Marcus will be a multiple time all-star
2-Marcus runs the floor like no other pf
3-Marcus reminds me of D. Nowitski(should be proud to be compared to him as far as talent goes)
4-Marcus started to show some toughness last year with the way he would finish at the rim.
5-Marcus is a another great piece to the locker room/bbfloor/media/community
With all that said, give Marcus 60-70 mill. He deserves it. As long as he continues to get a little tougher and attck the rim more ever year. He is too skilled to just settle for jumpers. Get some more Free-bees Marcus
I tried to type MARCUS as many times to let all the L.A. people know that is a slap in our faces. Come on now
But but but but but but....!
LA is LMA’s initials, why can’t he be referred to by his initials?
Marcus isn’t even his name or his initials… he is LaMarcus Nurae Aldridge.
Is it his fault he has the same initials (minus his middle name) as a town we shouldn’t even care about?
Morty
You know, Mortimer
I had some really awful times in Missouri one time, so from now on, I’ll address you as “rtimer”.
The MO. people should know it’s a slap in my face.
by Royster on Aug 20, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Those bad times having to do with your
Uncle Roy coming into your room at night to read you bedtime stories?
hakkaa päälle !
Low-Noise Amplifier
I’m just gonna start calling him Radio until someone comes up with something better. There’s enough analogical parallels for me to be happy.
So you're solution is to call him by something that isn't his name
and that no one calls him by?
Are we really that provincial that we can’t even call a player by his initials (which everyone uses to address him) because they happen to be the name of a rival city? Haven’t we grown past that?
I'm just going to call him
Cus. Keep shortening it to where it doesn’t make sense.
by schackdaddy on Aug 20, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
LMA! LMA! LMA! LMA!
Are we really that provincial that we can’t even call a player by his initials (which everyone uses to address him) because they happen to be the name of a rival city? Haven’t we grown past that?
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by LaMarvelous on Aug 20, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec
it’s “LMA” whenever written
and let his friends call him “L*A” whenever they’re talking to him
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
and for God's sake
don’t ever play Randy Newman’s “I love L*A” in the RG when LMA does something good
that’s just wrong
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
Who's Marcus?
YOU can inappropriately call him what you want, but I doubt that he would agree with you on it. There isn’t a player on the team named, "Marcus." How about some respect for him personally, and what his name actually is as well as what his initials actually are?
As far as not being able to stand his initials, LA, maybe you need to think about that a little more. Do you really want to go through life like that? Being irritated over such small coincidences? Would it really make you feel better if other people were to go along with you on this? It shouldn’t!
There is more to an athlete than how fast they can run, they also better be able to see what they are doing and know why they are doing it.
by KINGofMACct on Aug 20, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
His teamates and Nate call him LA and it dosent bother him
Why should it bother you?
by southern oregon on Aug 20, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the problem with LMA's defense is that
he isn’t a powerful, physical player like Karl Malone was. So as a result, he doesn’t play as well againt those types of players.
However, I’ve always argued that the way he can improve more against those guys is to make them work harder on defense themselves. Do the things that Ben suggests, then all of a sudden the opposing PF finds themselves with their hands on their knees, trying to catch their breath, especially if LMA can consistently get out in transition.
Of course LMA's outside shot is "less efficient" than his drives & dunks
But that doesn’t mean he should stop shooting out there. You need the threat of the outside shot to set up the drives, etc. I know this is obvious, but…
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
It is a good weapon to have
But we use it as a first option (or rather, LMA does) waaaaay too often.
They occasional pick n’ pop? That’s dandy. But having it be the norm, over the pick and roll? That’s not efficient.
He should mix it up and play inside out, not outside in. With his size and skill, it is a huge waste. He isn’t Channing Frye.
M—
Yes, but
You need the threat of the drive to set up the shot, too.
Unfortunately, LaMarcus just doesn’t drive much, so it isn’t feared. Which means defenders can cheat up on him, not respecting the drive, which puts the shot under more pressure.
Just occasionally, when he gets the ball out there and the defender comes flying out at him, I’d like to see a pump-fake, and go around the guy and ram it home.
Please. Pretty please. Pretty please with sugar on it.
"if Nate has Roy or Miller in the game at all times, that stagnation will turn into conflagration" -- two4larue
Stepping up at the NBA level requires HEART!
You see it. I see it. But, he is the one who has to have the courage to see it!
Last year I often wondered if he was not submitting to what I call the McMillan, "turnover paranoia," that seems to stifle the whole offense when things get tough. It is a fear of driving and turning it over when the defense is getting up on you.
How great would it be to see him consistently attack the basket like he did at times during the second half of the season. I don’t care if he senses a particular weakness or not, go at them, and make a weakness. I remember how positive and aggressive he was against Boston when Roy was out. He, "stepped up," and led the way to the whole team stepping up. I remember thinking to myself, "If they would all play like that when Roy was with them, then the Blazers would win a lot of games!"
LA has to see that he cannot continually defer to Brandon it the team is going to take that next step. He has to take on the responsibility of being a, "star."
There is more to an athlete than how fast they can run, they also better be able to see what they are doing and know why they are doing it.
by KINGofMACct on Aug 20, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry hurryup09
Gotta disagree. To a point it nice to have a jumper, but the PF foward should try and post inside as much as possible. I look to Gasol, and LA as the mode. They run the offense through Gasol, who the establith low on the blocks. Aldrige on the other hand already drifts way too much to the corner. I’m afraid that trati will continue. If I were the coach, I’d make him run sprints every time he shots a three in practive. Thats what the SF role if for.
The problem with LMA is in his head and heart...
He has all the tools to become a Hall of Famer, but does he have the drive and killer instinct to be one? That’s the question.
If he even had half of Kobe’s drive, he’d already be an All-Star. The NBA is littered with talented players who never reached their potential, whether it was mental or laziness (Rasheed, etc.) That’s why I’m not sure if he’ll ever reach his potential. LMA is the kind of player where the team needs to “see it to believe it”. And then pay for it.
Early offense will allow
LaMarcus ito ncrease his scoring. What he really needs is a good backup so he can cut his minutes to around 34 a game. In 400 more minutes of playing time last year he only scored 120 more points than the year before. Also with Miller, he will get better shots late in the clock ( closer to the basket) and increase his offensive efficiency.
Rewind on blowouts
That said, time and again during the second half of last season — you remember the stretch when every home game seemed like a twenty point blowout — I was sitting there dumbfounded (as Brother Wendell and the Mercury’s Ezra Caraeff can attest), watching LaMarcus do things we’d never seen him do before: truly take over a game, glare at the opposing team’s bench after a big dunk in traffic, get in someone’s face and have that person back down first.
Last night I sat down and watched the Utah ass-whuppin’ again (I’m going back through all my recorded games before I upgrade my CPU and OS to Windows 7 on my Media Center as I’ll lose these recordings) and was amazed at how good LMA was playing. I’m going to have ot find one of the games that was close to see what the difference was, but a lot of it broke down to:
- Good defensive stops (for LMA as well as Joel & Greg)
- Murdering Utah in transition (say what you want about how goofy he looks, LMA runs the floor like a gazelle)
- LMA switching his attacks between possessions
The last point reminded me of watching Jamie Moyer pitch: hit them with a fastball and then throw a 60MPH change up and leave the batter scratching his head. Or in this case, post up Boozer or Milsap, get the short hook and then next time down the floor, draw the defender out and nail the 15-foot jumper (or clear the paint for a cutting Roy or Nic or Steve). Super-effective.
I’m going to have to go back and watch the other 20+ point blowouts again and see if the same holds true. If so, and if LMA can pick up where he left off last regular season, he’s gonna be one scary guy on the court.
LaMarcus has
trouble with defenders who body him like Scola did in the Houston series. The one move he lacks is the jab step to get free from tight defenders (ala Duncan).
efficiency?
LaMarcus lives off of the 20’ jumper, the least efficient shot in basketball. Though he hits it with surprising regularity.
The other thing I noticed from Ben’s piece:
Aldridge rates “excellent” as a “jump shooter off the dribble” (cashing 50% of those shots, regardless of distance) yet rates “below average” when it comes to catch-and-shooting (40% of those shots, regardless of distance).
This quote is telling. I was very frustrated last year (especially in the playoffs) with how the offense would grind to a halt every time LaMarcus touched the ball. This statistic explains why. I’m sure you can picture it. The ball goes to LMA at the high post or on the wing. He stops. Begins dribbling. Setting up for his jumper. Any advantage or asymmetry in the defense that cutters or point guard penetration created disappears.
This is his comfort zone. The 50% v. 40% demonstrates that. I call it Nate-ball. Perhaps if we have enough one-on-one weapons, it will never be necessary to play like a team offensively. My feeling, however, is that until we learn how to pass the ball, and create some kind of team synergy on offense, we will be beatable in the playoffs.
I am curious to see
by Blazin' on Aug 20, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It's a team problem.
Great points! The point about "ball stopping" is particularly good. Decisions need to be made as the ball is being received, not after. Another quick pass, a shot or shot fake, or a quick drive with no delays.
Sometimes it seems like Portland’s offense primarily consists of one on one, so in order to beat a defender, they wait and wait and wait for him to get in position (thus giving up any advantage that the offense may have gained for them).
Good offense looks for and uses the advantages gained through man and ball movement rather than constantly letting it evaporate. Many times I would get frustrated with Roy (in particular) about this last season. Then Roy would make a spectacular drive and I would have concede his tremendous talent and skill.
The truth though is that this ability on Roy’s part stifles team play and has a negative effect on his teammates. It hurts their games by reducing their spacing advantages. Advantages that they apparently need more than him. The end result is a 4th quarter sidekick like Outlaw going one on one and chucking it up.
There is more to an athlete than how fast they can run, they also better be able to see what they are doing and know why they are doing it.
Good point.
Truth is Portland has very little motion to the offense. Only the PG really looks to make entry pass.
I for one, wish Portland played more like LA, were everything flows through Gasol. Gasol is really effective at passing the ball inside to those back door cuts to the basket. That play is almost nonexistint with Portland and Aldrighed.
how Andre Miller affects this equation.
My guess is that Nate will tie his shoelaces together!
Did you play some real ball? Because there is little doubt about your insight!
There is more to an athlete than how fast they can run, they also better be able to see what they are doing and know why they are doing it.
Thanks.
I’ve played in several bands, where ball movement and passing are very important!
You're welcome.
You seem to saying that there can be, "teamwork," issues in a band? Multiple bands? Never really thought of it that way, but I guess I can see it. I have played b-ball with guys who were very good individually but who hurt their teams overall performance. Most people have a hard time getting past the "very good" part. They just naturally assume that individual talents can be blended together to make a team (or band). I guess it is not always true, in either case.
There is more to an athlete than how fast they can run, they also better be able to see what they are doing and know why they are doing it.
have you ever seen the Smother's brothers skit
where they’re playing music and they keep saying “take it!” back and forth?
Hillarious
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
I agree with a lot of this
I take issue with only a few points.
Like Brandon, LaMarcus has already developed into a remarkably complete player on both ends of the court.
No player who is as mediocre to poor as Aldridge is in terms of defensive rebounding, help defense and scoring efficiency can be called a complete player.
If Aldridge has made observers slap their foreheads and shake their heads over the past few seasons, it’s happened when he drifts beyond his 18-20 foot comfort range.
I’d rather Aldridge shoot corner threes (if he must shoot jumpers) than the 18-20 footers, which he hits with decent regularity but not nearly enough to justify making the least efficient shot in basketball a regular part of his game.
Other than that, I more or less agree with what Aldridge needs to do. The frustrating part is how little improvement he showed on defense (he might even have gotten worse) over his first couple years. The improvement in rebounding over the 2nd half of last season was great and needs to continue.
Defensive growth tends to take more time in the NBA.
As Ben points out, in most facets of the game, KG is the ultimate case study. In looking at KG’s numbers, it’s pretty clear he didn’t become the defensive specialist he is today until his 4th year in the league. Granted, he was 22 by that time and not 24, but this really isn’t about age, it’s about logging minutes against NBA quality opponents.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
Thank You Ben for this extensive piece regarding my favorite Blazer Topic - LMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank You to the vast majority of my fellow BEdgers for keeping the discussion about LMA on the positive side.
LMA – Blazer for Life!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LMA Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I <3 LMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LMA - Putting the POWER in POWER FORWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The concussion must have jarred him into "Destroy All Opposition Terminator Mode!" - BlazersOrBust
What's Next for Lamarcus Aldridge?
Hopefully a Blazer signing press conference inwhich he has hired Brandon JR to speak for him.
"Mother Nature started this fight, I think it's about time we ended it!"
or LaMarcus junior
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Aug 20, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Just had to say
I’ve been reading BEdge for quite some time now. Ben, this is one of the best pieces you’ve ever written, and a reason why this site ranks in the upper echelon of sports blogs. Keep up the great work!
Things happen for a reason they say, but I say there's a reason things happen.
There are 2 areas I where I would like to see LA grow....
The first is the same as every other Blazer, I want to see move aggressive defense and rebounding, from the entire team.
The second gives me goosebumps just thinking about how good LA is going to be.
I see North Carolina Sheed from the shoulders down, and once he starts using his backside to bump defenders down, LOOK OUT !! Hate Sheed all you want in Portland, but in his day, he was unstoppable.
Miller is going to have everyone he plays with out running on fast breaks. Can’t wait til October.
Go Blazers !!!!
I disagree about the 3-point shooting
Adding a 3-point shot would greatly improve the effectiveness of the Roy/Aldridge pick-and-pop. I would much rather have Aldridge taking 3-point shots than have him take a large volume of 20’-22’ shots like he does now, because 3’s are just way more efficient than long 2’s. Since the 3-point shot is so much more efficient, teams would actually have to try and prevent it instead of just double teaming Roy and letting Aldridge have the long 2 like they do now.
I cound't disagree more.
I’m old school, and hate it when PF jack it from the 3 pt line.
I would much rather have aldrige post at the low post, and let the SF’s and Blake
camp at the three point line. Portland is already too much of a permireter team, and I’m
afraid Aldrige is going to become more and more like Frye.
Oden and LMA
Should benefit from a point guard that can and is willing to actually feed the post.
I get the paper, so I don't care!
Excellent as usual Ben
There is one other skill I would love to see LMA & all of our bigs learn. The pump fake, they can do this by watching a career highlight tape of Mo Lucas. Luke used the pump fake as well as any big I have ever watched,the opposition knew it was coming & Luke still suckered them off there feet.
He did it! Yes he did!
Which young PF would you take?
Hi, Ben.
Thought you and others who read your work might be interested in a poll like this …
http://khandorssportsblog.com/wordpress/2009/08/20/you-make-the-call-which-young-pf-would-you-take/
generated by your article.
All votes are welcome.
khandor
I wish LMA had the sort of killer mentality that guys like Brandon and Kobe possess
imo he still takes plays off
Blazer Fan
Areas For Improvement
These are the areas I’d most like to see Aldridge improve on:
(1) Team Defense — especially the pick and roll defense which is shoddy both when covering screens, and when being off the ball as the remaining big near the rim. Also, his defensive rotations in general need a lot of work. If Aldridge could become a very good defender, the Blazers could have a defense like the current Boston Celtics for the next decade. That would be phenomenal.
(2) Overall scoring efficiency — improve the FG% and get to the FT line more often, or at least as often as he was after the All-Star break last season.
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(3) In a distant third place, rebounding. Go from slightly below average to good.

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