8-18 Junk Drawer, Wicker Edition (update with graph)
by PoliSam on Aug 18, 2009 1:56 AM PDT
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When I think of the "first" basketball hoop, I have in mind a wicker basket that looks something like this:
Apparently, however, Dr. Naismith's first hoop wasn't really wicker, at least that's not how I would describe the basket in this photo:
via www.authenticbasketball.com
I was thinking of wicker baskets because I was thinking about technological progress in sports after Usain Bolt ran a 9.59 in 100 meters. I am skeptical that he's truly half of a second faster than the world champions of 10 years ago--by which I mean, I am skeptical that if Carl Lewis was running in this era would he really be half of a second behind Bolt. It also seems like an unlikely coincidence that Tyson Gay set a U.S. record in the same contest.
The question that I have been debating with others (though mostly myself) is why times in the 100 meter dash are still dropping. Is it improved training? Finding the right athlete for the race? Shoes? Track surface? Performance enhancing drugs? World records have been falling in swimming at an alarming rate, but there the swim suits are obviously involved. Records fall much less frequently in the Long Jump and other distances. What's going on in the 100? The graph below shows just how dramatic is the recent decline:
The record stood at 10 seconds in 1956. 9.9 something until 1988 (remember Ben Johnson) and then falls two tenths of a second in 3 years??? Today's best long jumpers almost never beat what Bob Beamon jumped in 1968!
This also raises a question relevant to basketball: If basketball was measured "objectively" would LeBron James be 5% better than Michael Jordan? Are basketball players improving as much as track athletes? If not, why not? I recently watched a little of the 1980 NBA championship and I can say without hesitation that the 1980 Lakers would not have a winning record in today's NBA. The Lakers did not have the type of athletes or all around skill that today's NBA players have. It's not even close. I'm curious to hear others thoughts on the issue.
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Maybe because the OP failed at making junk.
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"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 18, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
It's a number of factors, but sadly PEDs play a major role
A now drug-free Alvin Harrison (silver and gold medallist in Sidney and Atlanta, disqualified and suspended for four years after relay in Sidney) just absolutely flopped in the 400 m first round. He now starts for the Dominican Republic. And I guess that’s his true form, older and without PEDs.
I hope Bolt is drug-free, but I wouldn’t put my hand in the fire for him. Why? Because blood testing in Africa and Jamaica is difficult, the samples spoil too easily. So most unannounced tests are just urine tests. If the Jamaicans should use special designer steroids a la Balco, that’s very difficult to determine.
Chandra Stirrup continues to start for the Bahamas in the ongoing world championships, at age 37, and she is deeply deeply involved in the drug morass. Her former husband is a major witness for the prosecution in the Balco case, having supplied a number of Caribbean and US athletes. An Austrian supplier for athletes in several sports also posed major allegations last year and again this week in German newspapers and magazines.
As for advances in material:
The tracks are undoubtedly getting faster. Even more than a decade ago and as a middle distance runner I felt significant differences between running on a modern (at that time) new track and one built in the 80s or earlier. Spikes and outfits are getting lighter, Japanese company Mizuno made major advances here in the 1990s that were adopted by all other suppliers. Training science is advancing along with allowed nutrition (not just as an athlete, also for children in general). But in the end, the athlete is at the core of it. There are undoubtedly genetic differences from region to region (along with different social, economic, geographic circumstances) that make people best suited for certain sports or disciplines, but it hard to determine how fast that advances.
Example: People in certain regions of Ethiopia and Kenya are much lighter/skinnier on average than Europeans or Americans, they live at high altitude from childhood (that alone isn’t the deciding factor, otherwise you would have great runners from high altitude states around the Himalaya and Andes, though Mexico is a long-distance runners country), their nutrition is heavy in protein (lots of goat and goat milk, hunted animals, plus some vegetables and bread but next to no sugar and few carbs), their way to school is long and their household chores hard, running is a natural form of transportation, and being good at running is a major and fairly “easy” way out of poverty. Those are ideal circumstances to become great mid- to long distance runners.
Conversely people of West African descent (incl. people whose ancestors were brought to the Caribbean) are much more muscular and better suited for sprinting.
Jesse Owens wasn’t built that differently from a modern sprinter in his natural physical abilities, albeit less defined. 1960s Olympics winner Armin Hary (Germany) was probably the first athlete to run 10 seconds flat on 100 m, and he also clearly didn’t do it on drugs and on bad tracks. Everything after the mid-1970s is potentially suspect, especially among female athletes from Eastern Europe and the US. I don’t believe most of their current world records in running and strength disciplines one bit.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
by Norsktroll on Aug 18, 2009 2:55 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Great thoughts Norsk
I knew there would be someone like you around with a broad perspective on this issue.
Some very good points.....
I trust that track and field is free of PEDs even less than I trust professional cycling.
However, I’m not worried about the issues with blood tests in Jamaica and other warm weather countries. WADA accredited labs are getting better and better, and samples are not kept for years for future testing. At some point in the future, we will know whether or not Bolt uses PEDs. I certainly hope he isn’t, but it’s difficult to be certain.
I also don’t think we should automaticaly assume PEDs are the cause of the drop in times in the 100. And the reason I saw so is because of one of the items in PoliSam’s post…..Bob Beamon. When he popped his jump in Mexico City in 1968….it didn’t just break the worlkd record….it smashed it by a HUGE amount. And there is a history of that type of thing happening in the sport. World records tend to plateau for a period, then make a substantiel drop. That said, I don;t mean to say that PEDs haven’t played a role…maybe even the major role. We just don’t know for sure and to me, that’s kind of sad.
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Aug 18, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Good point on Bob Beamon
Honestly, my first guess was not PEDs as the main cause for the decline. I figured the track surface and shoes had something to do it with it. Again, the fact that Gay set US record in the very same meet means something to me. I suppose I wouldn’t completely rule out training or technique, thought that seems less likely.
Beamon’s record was set at altitude and the long jump is an especially stochastic event because of the timing of the take-off… and other things that I don’t really understand. From even to event, jumpers best fluctuate a lot. So while big drops do happen, I still think there’s something unusual going on in the 100.
The problem with the blood tests is that it’s not a level playing field. Athletes in many Western European countries (there are exceptions, e.g. Greece isn’t exactly known for great efforts) get tested dozens of times per year by their NATIONAL anti-doping agency, have blood profiles created, the samples get frozen, etc.
Athletes from countries such as Jamaica, many parts of Africa, Russia, and in the past also the US although that is improving aren’t getting tested in training by their national teams as often or at all. And if they do, it’s often urine samples due to lower cost and less problems with storage (temperature, transport). An athlete whose sample got too warm or contaminated could rightfully claim that shouldn’t be held against him/her. So these athletes especially get tested when they attend major track meetings and the championships. And if you have a good system in the background, you can fairly easily avoid positive testing.
To use an example, while there was suspicion due to her incredible results Marion Jones never got positively tested for 6+ years. But according to documents from the Balco case and by her own admissions in court she had used PEDs before. Her own lab tests kept her blood profile “clean”, so she was always a step ahead of the drug tests.
And for a historical perspective: A highly talented and doped Marion Jones didn’t come near the times set by Florence Griffith Joyner et alumni from that period in history.
I don’t want to sound too negative since I love track and field, the emotions, the events. I just have quite some perspective on the sport and would much rather see it clean. I have seen more than one event that I went absolutely nuts about, only to find out later that one or more of the athletes cheated. Which just sucks.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
this conversation thread is a good read
thank you guys
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooot Wooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!
It does suck.....
In total agreement with you.
I would like to see track and field move to something like the biological passport that was developed by the UCI and WADA for cycling. While it is not perfect, and needs more refinement, it is definitely a move in the right direction and is helping clear up a pretty messy sport (cycling). I have much more respect for WADA now that it is not headed by the publicity-hungry Dick Pound.
Speaking of FLo Jo, I gotta say….as much as I loved watching her run in Seoul (a beautiful woman running really, really fast), I have my suspicions about how clean she was….her times dropped too quickly, and she retired rather suddenly.
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Aug 18, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
…and she died very young. And random drug testing was only introduced after her early retirement. The doubts about her records are extremely high.
Cycling did take a good step, and it needed to because e.g. in Germany the two main public stations refused to continue broadcasting the Tour de France, so it could only be seen in cable. And major sponsors of cycling teams pulled back their support. This year every athlete in the tour got tested 3 times randomly (statistically), which is significantly higher than in Berlin where all medal winners will be tested but not every athlete can be tested once.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
Crap....I wish I could edit...
Instead of….“samples are not kept for years for future testing”
I MEANT to say “samples are NOW kept for years for future testing”…..
Just a slight change in meaning…..
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Aug 18, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
i just got a lot smarter by reading this
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, obviously it's primarily a combo of PED's and technological improvements
I’m sure improved training is a factor also. At least as I understand it, more athletes are able to train year round now, and with the benefit of more sophisticated analysis of what works and what doesn’t. Still, being realistic, it’s mainly the PEDs and the technology.
The moment Ben Johnson went from an also-ran to beating Carl Lewis was the moment track changed forever. For that matter, baseball, basketball, and other ‘finesse’ sports changed that day as well. The myth that PEDs only help power athletes (weight lifters, shot putters, linemen, etc.) was shattered. At least for anyone who was paying attention.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
did they catch the dog?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Aug 18, 2009 4:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Did I hear correctly that video production is soon underway?
I’m excited, and a little bit nervous: I don’t know exactly caused Yao’s foot injury but it seems that piece of ham you smothered him with put the Evil Eye on him, if a little too late for the Blazers. Who will get the ham treatment this year?
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Aug 18, 2009 4:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably won't be done until mid to late September
My father in law’s death and vacation next week set me back.
I'm sorry for you and your wife
September is soon enough – everyone deserves August off
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Aug 18, 2009 5:15 AM PDT up reply actions
i just got a lot smarter by reading this
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Aug 18, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
haha
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I always learned that Naismith used a Peach Basket
I have the same feeling watching NBA Classic games: the older teams could not compete today. I think the 90’s and Jordan were exceptional, however, and harder to judge than other eras because of the physical play that was allowed then. It tweeked stats like spitballs or deadballs or mound height (or Balco) altered baseball stats.
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
regardless
the players would have adapted. if jordan was put in todays age, i’m sure he would have had the drive to be the best and adapted his training to the current style of basketball.
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by Philthyanimal on Aug 18, 2009 5:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Jordan would have been a magnificent player whenever he played
I would actually argue that the 90’s were the toughest era to play basketball so far. That Jordan mastered that period, when defenses regularly battered offensive players, only raises my estimation of him
"its tough to play with one eye, unless you're a pirate." Delonte West
"una canasta a Pau en la cara" Rudy
by Honka Playboy on Aug 18, 2009 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions
"Animal lover Pink" could have some weird connotations
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
If you google "pink vick"
It goes to a bunch of pink Vick jerseys.
I have a religion--but you will call it blasphemy. It is that there is a God for the rich man but none for the poor.....Perhaps your religion will sustain you,will feed you--I place no dependence in mine. Our religions are alike, though, in one respect--neither can make a man happy when he is out of luck. - Mark Twain's letter to Orion Clemens, 10/19-20/1865
Super Lame
I just read Ben’s post that Bill Schonely will be the broadcaster during the “Turn Back The Clock” game. I hate Bill Schonely. He’s the Kobe Bryant of broadcasters.
He is that good? Who is the MJ of broadcasters? A young Marv Albert? A young John Madden?
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
Some people think he is and he's hated by others
I think Schonely is really more of a Shawn Bradley of broadcasters.
Really?
MB never said anything as lame as “Bingo Bango Bongo” or “through the cyclops at mid court.” Schoenly is better than Wheels.
Schoenly also never whined about the officials for 30 minutes of a 48 minute game.
Catch phrases aside, you never heard him overreact to a play that went against Portland or constantly note any disparity that wasn’t in Portland’s favor. You knew that when he described a play, you were hearing a fair, accurate representation of what was going on. You can’t ever trust MB or Wheels like that because their pro-Blazer comment settings are always at 11.
Wheels makes a very good studio show host. Can’t stand his PBP.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
I’m definitely tuning in to hear Schonz. It took me a while to enjoy Wheels since he had such big shoes to fill. Schonely is really, really, really old now and I don’t know what he is capable of anymore, but if he throws out a few catch phrases, my imagination and memory will fill in the blanks. Ah…the good ol’ days.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
I'm de-thawing my freezer. Literally as exciting as watching snow melt. And to top it I damaged the wall a bit.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
today the JD is as slow as your freezer
I have to do the same with mine, but I keep pushing it back, I hate doing it so much…although I admit it feels good to finally dislodge a big chunk of ice after pounding it with a screwdriver for 30 mins…
The screwdriver was part of the problem, since that caused a scratch/crack. Now I have to buy some plastic repair kit. And decided to just empty it and completely thaw the ice away.
There are freezers available that don’t ice anymore by circling air inside, but right now I don’t feel like buying one yet since that’s very expensive. Removing all ice to see how fast it rebuilds and cleansing/readjusting and potentially replacing the rubber isolation ring are the things I’ll try this month. I saw this week that my electrical consumption has gone up a lot from the last year, probably in large part due to the freezer icing more since there are not more electronics, we haven’t changed behavior and are home about the same amount of time plus/minus two weeks. I’ll also test if the meter really completely stops when I unplug everything, I saw a report about faulty ones a while ago. Oh well, electricity is still relatively cheap but why waste it.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
new no-freeze ones with good energy consumption (A+) are expensive
but maybe you can recoup some of the cost with a lower bill. Check Mediamarkt, they had some good “ecofriendly” fridges last week (in the case they use the same offers for Germany and Spain). I have always rented, and the fridge came with the flat, so I’m stuck with shitty freezers.
It’s a Whirlpool, so I even supported the US economy. Or maybe that’s why it consumes so much energy. Next time I might buy Chinese or Slovenian :)
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
share the planned obsolescence around among corporate masters
Without you out there, we're nowhere here
anyone see the new Mad Men from Sunday?
this season should be interesting I think. Seems a lot of stuff is going to change. Don Draper, by the way, is pretty much the coolest character ever on tv. Yep, even cooler than the Fonz. Who wouldn’t want to be Don Draper? I mean, sure, he’ll have lung and/or liver cancer in his later years, but what a ride to that point right?
Who knew you could die in "tree wells". Those photos are fake, but they claim it's near impossible to rescue yourself
http://www.treewelldeepsnowsafety.com/
I’m skiing or snowboarding since I was about five, but that has never occurred to me. Then again I tend to not ski close to trees.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
This is the exact reason...
that I always pack a beaver when skiing.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
by lukeyhere on Aug 18, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'd probably sound like OJ...
if I declared my innocence, but that was totally unintentional.
I unrec myself.
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
i don't do much off-track
but the times i’ve done it and fell, it took me a while to get back up again, even after taking off the board. Don’t even want to think about falling into one of those hellish “tree wells”.
Voice of experience here...
If you fall down a tree well…….do NOT try to climb up the snow. Climb the freaking tree….even if it’s small in the upper reaches.
Took me about 20 minutes in a tree well to figure that one out…..
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Aug 18, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, it sucks a lot to be in them. I could see someone being unable to escape and dying, but usually you can get out.
So, so tiring & sweaty though.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
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I hope Bolt didn't/doesn't dope.
But I’m skeptical. It’s sad that in this day and age you can’t not wonder about it when records fall like they are.
Bolt was electric in that race. He got a perfect jump at the gun, took a few meters to get his momentum going, then turned on the afterburners with that long stride. Just amazing to watch.
It wasn’t even close. Tyson Gay couldn’t move his legs any faster, and yet Bolt made it look almost effortless.
But I like to be here. Oh, I like it a lot! Said the Cat in the Hat. To the fish in the pot.
by you'vegottomakeyourfreethrows on Aug 18, 2009 9:01 AM PDT reply actions
His style is pretty funny. He turns the whole body side to side which traditionally was considered inefficient and runs with a straight upright upper body, doesn’t have very high lift but is about 6’4’’ to 6’5’’ so he still has a long stride, and makes very quick powerful steps. He reminds me a bit of Michael Johnson. He certainly has very strong natural physical abilities and technique. The doubt remains.
His start in that race was very good but not amazing, Asafa Powell had the better start and acceleration on the first 20-30 meters. Where Bolt is in a league of his own is sustaining top speed without cramping up. His face and whole body remains relaxed.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
That is the scary thing about that run.
Bolt was not at his best. He could’ve gotten off to a better start and it looked to me like he let up in the last 5-10 meters since he knew Gay wasn’t going to catch him. This makes me thing a sub-9.5 time is gonna happen by the end of the London games at the very latest.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
What sports have been changed the least...
by training, technology or even doping?
The ’roid scandal aside, it seems that baseball has stayed on a fairly even keel over a half century or more i.e. a team from 50 years ago could be competitive today.
Golf? Without Tiger in the mix, Nicklaus’ major record would still be viewed as untouchable.
Chess? Just imagine what Bobby Fischer could have accomplished on “the cream” and “the clear”.
Horse racing?
Watermelon seed spitting?
The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers
Alex, I'll take Horse Racing for $100....
Long live Secretariat. Watch a clip of his win in the Belmont Stakes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS4f6wiQJh4
We may never see a horse like that again.
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Aug 18, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
dumb question: how come they don't time horses??? for comparison...is it because the tracks are so different?
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Short answer...
yes.
Times are only TRULY comparable at the same tracks…although there are records for distances regardless pof tracks….not that anyone pays too much attention to them
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
by antediluvian on Aug 18, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I now have a great mental image
of Fischer rubbing “the cream” into his temples. Thanks Lukey. – Elgin
Without you out there, we're nowhere here
NNNOOOOO!!!!!!
Just when I thought it was safe to follow the NFL:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4406963
yeah no kidding.
why can’t he just go away once and for all. This will make ESPN nearly unwatchable.
by DrivetheLane on Aug 18, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
i wouldn't be surpised if the made it to the SuperBowl though...
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no way.
just because they have Favre doesn’t mean they’ll make the super bowl. i don’t follow the NFL hardly at all but I didn’t think the Vikings were that close. I know they have Peterson, but who will Favre throw to? Is their defense really that good?
by DrivetheLane on Aug 18, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
i think their defense is good but great for the NFC
the threat of him throwing is far greater than him throwing it if All Day stays healthy
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the think with Farve is
that people totally forget that he has a history of throwing interceptions at pretty much the worst possible times in the playoffs. I wouldn’t be surprised if he threw a ghastly pick in the 4th quarter of a playoff game that lead to the winning score for the other team.
You mean like the 2007 NFC Championship Game?
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 18, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking the 2003 Divisional playoffs
After the game everyone was talking about Freddie Mitchell and the catch on 4th-and-26, but Farve threw such a back pick that I thought Brian Dawkins was going to call a fair catch waiting for it to come down.
and that's why we watch...it's awesome that he at least slings it
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yeah but I don't think that it gives you a great chance to win in the playoffs
besides Favre isn’t the same elite level QB that he was 10 years ago when he could maybe make up for his mistakes.
of course but he's better than Tarvaris or Sage...
and they seem to make it pretty far with just Gus last year…and Gus threw 5 picks in one game and 3 in a few others
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cough matt hasselbeck cough
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Aug 18, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I give that a 0.00000000000001% chance of happening.
The Vikings basically just became a .500 team. They still don’t have many great receivers and their defense definitely leaves something to be desired. I’d be surprised if they even won their division.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
yeah maybe
but Cutler is already dissing his teammates in Chicago, and who knows if Aaron Rodgers will play a full season in Green Bay…so I’d give the nod to the Vikings with Favre…
plus he has an old playbook versus learning a new Jets system
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I'm 100 percent sure
The Bears are the best team in that division. I read it in a comic, it’s true. Also, the Viqueens play in a dome; and the Cheese Heads, well, you know…
I’ll give you props for cheering on the Lions though.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
i root for the Lions
when they had Barry Sanders…and will root for them now that Millen is gone.
i wish we had NFL in portland…anybody wants to pitch in?
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I saw Barry Sanders, in the old Soldier Field. He killed the bears for like 200+ yards. In the same game, Rasham Sallam broke his ankle, and Brian Cox was flipping people off. It was amazing…
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
wow i'm envious...that would be freakin awesome
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By half time, most of the crowd was gone. It was that bad of a game. I got to move up and watch from really nice seats. It’s the only game I’ve seen life. The Bears play the SeaChickens this year—my buddies want to make the trip up to Seattle, I’m on the fence though. Football tix are murder.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I think the Bears are going to win that division.
As whiny and petulant as Cutler can be at times, he’s got a cannon for an arm. There are similar issues there in Chicago in that they need more WR depth. Devin Hester alone won’t cut it. But their defense is solid and is easily the best in the NFC North, if not the entire NFC.
Not having to learn a new system helps some, but teams are going to make Favre throw effectively before they stop selling out to stop Peterson. Favre looked alright at times with the Jets, but he was never all that devastating.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
The Bears' defense is not what it was a few years ago
They play the Cover 2 and can’t rush the passer, Mike Brown’s injuries are more predictable than Greg Oden’s. They’re in a similar boat with Green Bay. Both have potential to be very explosive offenses, and if the defenses can step up occasionally, I can see both winning 11 games.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 18, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Bernard Berrian and Percy Harvin are major weapons for Favre...
he can dump a screen to Percy or go long with Bernard…
i think those two will be a major surprise
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Berrian isn't a surprise, he had a good season last year with Tavaris/Ferotte throwing to him
Brad Childress is also one of the 5 worst coaches in the NFL.
I’m not looking at the Vikings too objectively. I hate Favre and hope someone breaks his legs in his first game back at Lambeau. The Vikings have yet to prove they can run an imaginative offense, and Favre’s stint with the Jets doesn’t inspire much confidence.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 18, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
You should pop in the Daily Norse. They’re all over the place. It’s a good read—Most are calling him a Diva…
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, i cringe when Childress talks...they should hire Mike Martz as OC for the fun of it
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The bears secondary is suspect. They’re basically running two SS. Mike Brown isn’t w/ the team anymore, though. The injury bug rests on Tommie Harris. But, yeah, when they played the bills on Sat they made all of their quarterbacks look like All Pros. If they can’t play Defense this year, they’ll lose a lot. The schedule is pretty challenging this year too.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
but, it doesn’t improve his play, odd?! I think he should switch to pcp, and wrap himself in barb-wire—he’d be a monster in the trenches…
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Does Mike Brown use the same conditioning guy as Bill Walton?
Seriously. When was the last time he got through a whole season??
I think the pass rush will be much improved this year. Everything I’ve heard/seen out of Bears camp shows the linebackers are actually looking like they may play to their potential this year. Urlacher was terrible last year. No real way to go but up for him.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
i think they will improve too...just the fact that they have a reliable QB should pump them up
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Their LB's are very good, I just don't think Bob Babich is the right guy for that defense
And way too much is relying on Tommie Harris and Mike Brown.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 18, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Lovie is calling the plays on D this year
Babich was demoted to linebacker’s coach. Mike Brown, I’m pretty sure plays in the AFC—He was picked up recently for the vet’s minimum.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll cop to it.
That doesn’t mean I’m wrong about the Vikings. It just means that I might be wrong about the Vikings.
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i'm just wondering...since we don't have an NFL team...
and most of us don’t root for the Seahawks…i might now that they have TJ Housh…
i’m pulling for Tennessee this year…don’t know why, mabye i like Coach Fisher
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I've blocked out my sundays for the next few months
To watch Bears games. I can, and do sing the fight song (to the bar after a win).
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
My mom is.
"Goals are good. Plans are better." -Ben.
by Sabonis4Ever on Aug 18, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Without reading what he is replying too
I was thinking he is replying to “Who’s tight?”
by tominhawaii on Aug 18, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Skol Vikings!
Not sure about the Favre pick-up though . . . . Certainly will make for an interesting season. My fear is it just sets back a real solution at QB (Sage?) for another year.
put a body on 'em
Wow, I'm out of the loop
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 18, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, i wouldn't bet against Cutler either but we'll see how he does in the windy city...
i think the Bears defense will be step slower this year but they don’t have to stay on the field for such a long time.
Forte is a monster back
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Forte's got a chance to be the best Bears RB since Neal Anderson.
The first year after a big year like that can be telling though. Cutler won’t be half as effective if Forte doesn’t duplicate his effort from last season. There’s no reason to think he won’t necessarily, but it’s a concern.
The top end talent on the Bears is very good across the board, but they’ve got very little depth.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
eh, not a big fan of any NFL team, and certainly wasn't a 49ers (or any bay area team) fan back when Favre and Young would go head to head
Favre is just a douchebag and a prima donna who tries to pretend he’s a down home guy who doesn’t like the spotlight but actually is always making sure he is in the spotlight.
Polisam is 118 years old!!!!!!!!!!!!
awesome
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LeBron is terrible, Kobe is terrible, LONG LIVE BROY!!!!!!!!!!!
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here, merry xmas
Drew this for the BEdge obviously. Gimme a cookie.
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by pxilpooshr on Aug 18, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 12 recs
When Jscot goes to the club,
do you think he makes it rain with all his recs?
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nice!!! rec!!!!!!!
where’s his racing stripes?
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Nice, but he’s built like a steroid guy… all upper body, tiny chicken legs
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
it is a steriod induced junk today
btw, how much would it cost to build an indoor bball court…and would it count as part of your house for property tax?
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Well if you play professional basketball you may be able to write it off
by saying that it is a “home office”
hahah just one of lame dreams in life...to have an indoor bball court as an extension to my house...
if i don’t dream it/think of it, i may never get
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yeah, it adds to the square footage, and presumable adds to the value of your house if you ever sold it… so it’s taxed… as for cost, I really don’t know off the top of my head ( I don’t normally do Sports facilities) but a rough guess would be $150 per S.F. at the cheap end with the sky being the limit to what you could spend
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
if you add it on afterwards, would it still count?
the land would be taxed but don’t they calculate just “living area” ? as in my garage doesn’t count in the square footage of my home. i think i’m confusing myself
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right, your garage doesn’t technically count as livable space because it isn’t heated/cooled (conditioned in architect speak) but it does add value to your home, and it is the value of your home that is taxed
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
so i can technically say that a bball court devalues my home because
what percentage of people would want to buy a house that has a bball court?
and would it count if it’s always “unfinished?”
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you can try lying to the tax man if you want
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
It is the 3rd sport after NFL and MLB
If it was a football field or a baseball field, then they could say it provides value for the home, but a basketball court is only for thugs. It is like having a gang recruitment center.
you could just call it a roller skating rink
and have fathead make you a huge sticker with all the lines so that you can put the decal down on your rink.
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by Philthyanimal on Aug 18, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Just ask JR Smith to mention the court on his twitter feed
And watch your home’s value plummet!
It is a good scheme as long as you don’t wanna sell the house anytime soon, right?
that's spendy...it looks like i need 6000 square foot....
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you of all people would need a court with a 3pt line…
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.
.
cause we all know you’re not shooting lay ins
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
hahahaha you are right...that is a failed image pull
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Mine will have college and NBA 3 point lines
College is worth 2 points, NBA line 3 points, all else 1 point.
tell us about the MTV style court you plan on putting in place
You’ll have the 6 point and 25 point baskets, right?
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
sometimes the hoop raises to 20 feet and it’s worth 50
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
since white man can't jump...
Mortimer will be putting in a Slam Ball court
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i want to go to there
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I COULD DUNK I COULD DUNK
He screamed to the heavens and cries himself to sleep.
Right now, I can only grab rim. That was a few months ago. I’ve been being married and sitting around working so much I feel all sloppy and out of shape so who knows now.
on this
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
hahah that and a 10ft hoop yo!!!
i’ll show ya next time
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haha
aight. you gonna get on your bros shoulder’s or something?
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
how tall are u?
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Just 6'1" without shoes
Actually it was a happy surprise… for years I thought I was a shade under 6’1", but I measured my height and wingspan the other week and I was 6’1.75!" I grew at some point.
BAD THING was, though, was that my wingspan is only 6’2". Bayless can laugh at me.
The last time I measured during my good ol’ days, it was a 37 inch vertical. Good for a normal person, but not great. Some days were better than others, but my jumping was almost better flat footed than on the run since I jump off of two feet.
dang 37 inches is pretty good.
im a one footed jumped. my left foot if you were wondering. also thats the knee thats been bothering me. hmm…..
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
It really came in handy rebounding
But most two foot jumpers (like Dominique) don’t glide well, like Jordan or Clyde. I know I didn’t jump far, just high.
You ever use any weights on your ankles or anything? I never used weights for anything or did any jumping exercises until I broke my right leg in football Junior year of HS.
Rehab sucked :-(
Oh,
go compare that at the
draftexpress data base and you will find that it is a respectable vertical for NBA people
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I will talk about DeJuan Blair no more forever
very respectable. mine was 21 inches from a standstill about four years ago. hopefully its better now
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
that was frosh year. we’ll see whos talking on wed.
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
i bet Norsk has a 40 inch vert
am i right Norsk?
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i see you changing the topic. nice try
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
and you wonder why you have knee problems...
always getting broken on D
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i never said i was good at d lol. were talking about rims
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions
On the real real, like real real tip
If your knee is feeling iffy or unstable, get it checked out if you haven’t and wear a brace.
for sure. you don’t wanna mess with knees. im wanna still be ballin when im 50 so i def should get it checked out
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
No, I'm not terribly explosive
Though I did jump training for track and field. I jumped 6’4’’ in high jump at 16, but never improved from there.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
i’d say 6 foot with no shoes. i haven’t been to the doctor in a while to measure for serious
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm a little under 6
and you’re taller than me.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
you must have a high vert then. i think i have above average arms too
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I used to have some lift.
I’m getting old, I don’t know if I can get up there anymore…
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
That's true
But I bet out of the 6-foot-ish guys, it is on the low end. Once you get tall, it is a good vertical.
What's your standing reach Morty?
I could have sacrificed goin' out
To think my homies who did it, I used to joke about
From now on I'ma use self control instead of birth control
Cause $315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth it
If I had a thirty seven inch vertical with my standing reach I would quite happily be dunking.
Unfortunately mine is not comparable.
I could have sacrificed goin' out
To think my homies who did it, I used to joke about
From now on I'ma use self control instead of birth control
Cause $315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth it
Yeah, I could dunk as an 8th grader (12/13 years old)
My brother could jump really high as well, maybe even higher, BUT he wasn’t as coordinated as I was so it wasn’t much use.
as a eighth grader!? thats impressive. the girls like that lol
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
It was the only way I could make friends
Everyone hated me but getting good at sports made me not so unpopular.
sports was the great equalizer. i was geeky with glasses and a bowl cut but at least i got picked first for sports. i made a lot of friends thru sports
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
:`(
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
you have a sly smily morty
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I should repeat
I can’t dunk now. Too much sitting and working, not enough running around.
Just rim is all I can get :-(
How does that work
Do you lay flat, then get excited for one pushup, then flaccid again real quickly?
Doing 10 would make you light headed.
“just rim is all I can get”
when taken out of context is hilarious
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I will talk about DeJuan Blair no more forever
I thought the sequel was pretty good
Deeper Impact
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 18, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
if you were enough of a baller to have an indoor court
i’m sure you wouldnt worry about the meager amount that it’d cost you in taxes.
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by Philthyanimal on Aug 18, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
as you know PA, tax kills!!!! it last forever but my one time sunk cost wouldn't hurt so bad after i win the Powerball
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if you won the powerball would you....
sit courtside at center court, behind the team bench, in a luxury suite, or be by paul allen?
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by Philthyanimal on Aug 18, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
after I buy an NFL team, i sit courtside...
and then buy a section behind the hoop for rowdy BEdgers only
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you would need to win like 4 huge powerball jackpots
for just the priviledge of getting an nfl team. i remember reading the entry barrier was something ridiculously huge.
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by Philthyanimal on Aug 18, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
it's probably 700 million...but if you win 250, take 100 after uncle same and FMV....
take the 100 million put it on Red, get 200….then down 150 mill, credit line of 300 mil, and then ask Jordan and JayZ to invest.
BOOM…The Portland Treehuggers are mine!!!
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if you win
be sure to use classy cheerleaders that are not degrading, so that sophia won’t be upset.
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by Philthyanimal on Aug 18, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
i think brp will do anything in his power to make sophia upset. just a guess
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
doesn’t take much… just make a woman the kicker and she’s sure to rant for days about how women are subjected to the unwanted professional football positions
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
lol
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by Philthyanimal on Aug 18, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
sophieeee is putting up a front...
she wants to be a Cheerleader so i’m gonna make her Captain but i get to choose the rest
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Nice!
I don’t follow shoes— do his shoes really have purple on them?
Ohhhh, wait… because of the Huskies, right? Not the Lakers, I presume? Since they were his favorite team…
Nice picture.
thanks
I drew the shoes from this
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/7/28/967219/broy-commercial-for-the-nike
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Awesome! I bet even Brandon would love it.
"Aneurysm".
When Outlaw wins a game on a last-second shot, it’s called an "annthefaneurysm". QualityPie
does anyone know where i can buy crocs in portland?
before ya’ll scream at me its for a good cause
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
which mall?
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
wash square for sure...not sure about others
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k thanks
im bout to make these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_295goLV7A
then you’ll be throwing me oops
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
haha already got that. just gotta get the crocs now
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I kinda want to change my name to pool noodle, or pool noodle in the outback, or james brown’s jump soles
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
i would support that decision. good names bring the lulz
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
JEALOUSY!
I can sense it lol
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
That dude's Mexican accent sounds funny
by tominhawaii on Aug 18, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
That and his near fail dunks.
That’s as close as I can get to throwing it down and I’d like to refrain from having it on YouTube.
college will be helpful for you as rule number 1 is never to trust dudes with highlights
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I will talk about DeJuan Blair no more forever
haha
you don’t think this will work?
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I am not totally sold on this as you are trying to exercise fast twitch muscles so just doing explosive exercises should be of great benefit with out trying to do any muscle isolation, which has been shown to be a bit of dubious, and sometimes injursome (I know it is not a word) concept.
Go buy some wood and make a few different height boxes and jump onto them as quickly as you can with both 1 and 2 footed jumps.
google plyometrics
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I will talk about DeJuan Blair no more forever
good advice
this way i don’t have to be seen buying/wearing crocs
i’ve also been doing more squats and lunges recently. i figure if I do squats lunges calf raises etc. at the gym maybe three times a week, i’ll do crocs/plyos one or two times a week. arms/back other days.
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
the weight training sounds good, but make sure you are doing low reps and looking to accelerate the weight, or you will be addressing slow twitch muscle rather than the fast twitch you want for getting a better vertical leap.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I will talk about DeJuan Blair no more forever
k thanks
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
costco for cheap
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by Philthyanimal on Aug 18, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
theres no costco by my house. but how cheap?
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
cheaper than a working girl on 82nd
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by Philthyanimal on Aug 18, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah, crocodiles, I mean— that keeping wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city – that aint legal either, dude.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
i fell in love when
in jan 2008 there was a caption that said “apple – from it stock to sh!t stock” and it was spelled exactly like that on the screen, yet erin went ahead and said the S word. CNBC has pulled all the videos off that were posted online…it sucks.
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by Philthyanimal on Aug 18, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I fell in love
when she told me that I shouldn’t complain about my kids playing with toxic toys lest I anger our Chinese over lords. There’s something about a free market psychosis that makes a hot woman even hotter.
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the original one was a fantastic movie
awesome twist ending
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
Loved that twist.
And the masks and the nudity. Pretty much everything needed for a sweet ass movie.
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
LOL
i love it
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by Philthyanimal on Aug 18, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
not until now
do you know what happens when a walrus fights a polar bear? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o22mGCSfUQY
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Ooooh!! So they're fighting??
Aut disce, aut discede; manet sors tertia, caedi
by Occam's Blazer on Aug 18, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Did not know that
I do, however, know that there is a ninja museum. Had the good fortune of visiting it when I was in Japan a few years ago.
by Storyteller on Aug 18, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Google Ninja Warrior or Sasuke.
They’ve been doing this competition in Japan for about 10 years now. Some of the things they can do are simply unbelieveable. They show episodes pretty often on the G4 channel. Just recently, they have had American athletes pre-qualifying for the event to see how well they can do. The tournament before last, an American went the furthest of anyone.
It’s basically a four stage event all done in one day. 100 people start, some really trying, some just there for a laugh, and they go until the last person has been eliminated or until they have finished the final stage, which is basically a ladder and rope climb up a 75 foot tower that must be done in 45 seconds. The whole course has only been completed twice.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
I put those shows out of buisness
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 18, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm expensive
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 18, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
the next mozart (at age 6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUx4t4W4eVY&feature=fvw
i’ve been watching her videos all day…its crazy
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+1
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by Philthyanimal on Aug 18, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Piano? You treat objects, like women, man.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I can't live free like you Mortimer!
The light is too bright, it pains my dilated pupils, I will forever be dragged down by the insufferable chains of malcontent
Garden Variety Internet Denizen
WORD UP.STAY.FRESCO
When the time is right
You’ll use it.
“Hey, what kind of chicken do you buy?”
“I’ve boughten Foster Farms before, and I like it, but just get whatever. As long as it’s dark meat”.
And then you’re new life can begin, Dheepan.
by Mortimer on Aug 18, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
How can you discover a child doing anything at 2?
I suspect she’s a midget and that this is all a ruse.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
You must be joking
my 2 year old son can drop marbles into his marble works better than anyone else I know. He is a prodigy!
Did you notice the other children were up against the wall with their instruments?
Hi, I’m 7 and I willingly play the harp, 5 nights a week.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I hear they come out of the womb with either a harp or golf club in hand.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
and he will be a prodigy in pimpin prodigies
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooot Wooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!
prodigy in net touchin
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Like any good father, you can hand you clothes and mantle down:
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Guy on the right looks like
Dracula, a bit. Dracula a vampire pimp?
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
he has to overcome the booger searching first
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of Durty… whens the next Bedgeball going down?
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm thinking next week if you all are up to it
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I’m down… maybe I’ll even practice first so I stop bricking all those 3’s
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure Adam West defeated that in one of the Batman tv show episodes
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Holy Cackle Batman
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
That led me to this video
Dino toys with weiner triggers
The whole video is way too long, but that toy is funny that it exists. Seems like a no brainer.
The French coach has cut Johan Petro and Edwin Jackson to bring his roster to 12 players
Jackson is 19, very inexperienced, but will be a national team player for sure. The coach prefers Mahinmi (Spurs) over Petro for his better mobility and defense.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
Serbia shouldn't be a huge problem for Spain (and UK), they lost one of two test games against Germany without any major players 75-53
Best of the worst was Nenad Krstic with 15 points.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
thanks to tinfoil for the heads up.
this is hilarious http://emailsfromcrazypeople.com/2009/08/16/italians-arent-kosher/
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
are you serious???? and why are they flush to the top?
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I learned that from some Asians in Portland
We were looking to buy a home and a lady had all her photos like that. She had a huge portrait of herself above the fireplace as well.
I cry for Mike.
those asians sure are crafty
Senior Asian ambassador of Blazers Edge
by Philthyanimal on Aug 18, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
That's racist
You think just because it looks like they are squinting, and thus it looks like they are scheming, that they are crafty.
It couldn’t be further from the truth! They are a simple, docile breed. Prone to hanging posters and picture too high on their walls.
For this sort of ignorance to be happening today… I mean, it’s the 90’s people! We gotta get with the times.
all these asians come to america
and think they own the place because they won the vietnam war. i say we round em up and have them transport us around on those rickshaws.
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by Philthyanimal on Aug 18, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
This map of Kenya, and a large-scale wall calendar with photos from Africa. And a poster of Carnac in the hallway that looks similar to the one below.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
I love maps
I got some olde tymey ones hanging in my office, with some artwork by me and some by the wife, and a Blazers shrine above my desk.
I just like looking at maps… especially old, wrong ones.
I do too. I also have a world map replica etched in a silver plate that is totally wrong but looks beautiful. I also like this old rhino by Duehrer. It’s pretty unlikely he ever saw one (he lived around 1500), though it does look similar to the Indian Rhino that has horn plates like that on the back and he might have had detailed descriptions and sketches by explorers.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
I prefer maps that show me what’s edible
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here's a recent book of reprinted maps I got
I’ve thumbed through it at the bookstore before, but never got it. But when the Borders on the 3rd St Promenade was closing, and everything was dirt cheap, I went and got a bunch of books on exploration and other fun stuff. This book was only $2.50.
Generally, I prefer olde tymey maps done by explorers that have wrong borders, sea monsters, lots of ignorance and mystery. But this book was interesting and neat to look at.
lots of ignorance and mystery
I want that on a business card, under my name.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Master of?
Or it just has your name and then, under it:
“Lots of Ignorance and Mystery”.
Maybe take out the “lots of”, so just Ignorance and Mystery… I dunno. It’s your damn business cards, why do I gotta make them for you?!?!?!
KICKS FLOWER POT OVER.
I see what your saying
Maybe I was envisioning this as one of those motivational posters—With my ugly mug and beneath it “lots of ignorance and mystery”. But, if it’s going to be a business card, we’re going to have to make me a shamus. It would make for a good private eye card. Also, I always wear plaid, and have a resemblance to steve martin….
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Reminds me of an awesome book: Bassey's Book of Military Blunders - by Geoffrey Regan
“GENERALS, UNLIKE FINE WINES, DO NOT NECESSARILY GET BETTER WITH AGE”
Also available: Naval Blunders. Some great anecdotes about generals who killed more of their men than the enemy – or at least enabled the enemy to do so.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
I have an old map mouse pad,I think its cool
Have you ever seen the Piri Reis Map?
by southern oregon on Aug 18, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
You made me look it up
Sounds interesting… what is your take on it?
Without knowing much more than just hearing about it now and reading a few things briefly, this explanation makes sense to me: He ran out of room.
Here’s some translations if anyone else looked it up and was interested…
I think the map is what Piri proported it to be
A compilation of the best source material available at the time,The Hapgood and Von Dieniken interpretations are in my opinion not credible.
by southern oregon on Aug 18, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
That seems right to me
It seems like a very nice map, but taking an inaccuracy from a map 500 years old to mean something more than an inaccuracy is funny.
But, I like reading about this sort of thing.
There is a story,take it for what its worth
That Piri Reis “bootleged” a copy and sold it on the sly for big bucks and that the copies of that were the gold standard for mariner’s till about 1600
by southern oregon on Aug 18, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Joel Freeland talks about shattering his leg, which ended his football career and made him switch to basketball at 16
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
PS3 Slim for only $299 with 120 gb / 30% less weight and power usage in 9/1/01
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooot Wooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!
Not bad. Initially they didn't have enough titles, and the Xbox still has more. But I detest the noise of the fan and DVD drive on that console. That it's bigger doesn't bother me so much.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
Hmm, I didn't know the PS3 was out eight years ago . . .
Well I’m moving back home in about two weeks, and my brother already has a PS3. I have a 360, but I’m also thinking about getting a Wii to mod and complete the current gen trifecta.
Jeff Pendergraph will go beast mode all over your face
by chalupa king on Aug 18, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
it kinda looks cheap
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by Philthyanimal on Aug 18, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
no hablo español señor
Jeff Pendergraph will go beast mode all over your face
by chalupa king on Aug 18, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Tengo mucho hambre porque hay un vacío en el árbol. tiene el elefante?
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Quieres comer un aerodeslizador?
I could have sacrificed goin' out
To think my homies who did it, I used to joke about
From now on I'ma use self control instead of birth control
Cause $315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth it
No sé, quiero conocer Starbury en Guadalajara.
I could have sacrificed goin' out
To think my homies who did it, I used to joke about
From now on I'ma use self control instead of birth control
Cause $315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth it
Además, qué es rec? Recreo? Me gusta el recreo. Charlo con mis amigos y comer los bocadillos :)
I could have sacrificed goin' out
To think my homies who did it, I used to joke about
From now on I'ma use self control instead of birth control
Cause $315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth it
En el patio a las once.
Oh I love first year Spanish.
I could have sacrificed goin' out
To think my homies who did it, I used to joke about
From now on I'ma use self control instead of birth control
Cause $315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth it
I'm on it like sonic
I could have sacrificed goin' out
To think my homies who did it, I used to joke about
From now on I'ma use self control instead of birth control
Cause $315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth it
my favourite
cloudy: do you want peanut butter?
pirate: i don’t know, I want to meet Starbury en Guadalajara.
Como esta usted?
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 18, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Perry Como's dead?
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 18, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Translation thus far:
what’s up guys?
Cloudy Days.
I don’t speak Spanish sir.
Chalupa King
I’m very hungry because there’s a hole in the tree. You have the elphant?
Chalupa King
Do you want peanut butter?
Cloudy
I don’t know, I want to meet Starbury in Guadalajara.
Pirate
Rec
Meddymed
Moreover, what is rec? Break? I like break time. I chat with my friends and eat sandwiches.
Pirate.
And play football!
Medlymedful
On the playground at eleven.
Pirate.
From: I don’t know, I want to meet Starbury in Guad. A slight side discussion.
Well played, I know a man, that knows a man that knows a cat in Tijuana.
Clouded skies emo man
Is he called Carlitos, I think I know him. He eats strawberry donkeys.
Pirate
Marinated meat burritos please.
Chalupa king
I like Burritos with fried fish and french fries.
Cloudy’s lame.
I could have sacrificed goin' out
To think my homies who did it, I used to joke about
From now on I'ma use self control instead of birth control
Cause $315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth it
by The Pirate on Aug 18, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
hahahahaa
“clouded skies emo man”
my last sentence was supposed to be “I like burritos with fish and chips”
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
NOTHING IS EVER GOOD ENOUGH YOU NEGATIVE EMO TYPE!
:)
My mistake.
I could have sacrificed goin' out
To think my homies who did it, I used to joke about
From now on I'ma use self control instead of birth control
Cause $315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth it
fish in the burrito or on the side?
I’ve had fish tacos before, but never a fish burrito.
Jeff Pendergraph will go beast mode all over your face
by chalupa king on Aug 18, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
there is this place in woodburn called
Tacos Corona. best freaking burritos this side of the border. they serve fish burritos (at least they do during the Catholic Lent)
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
conocer a
Tengo que recordar “a”
I could have sacrificed goin' out
To think my homies who did it, I used to joke about
From now on I'ma use self control instead of birth control
Cause $315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth it
bien jugado
conozco un hombre que conoce un hombre que conoce mi gato en Tijuana
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
Se llama Carlito? Creo que lo conozco.
Come burros de fresa.
I could have sacrificed goin' out
To think my homies who did it, I used to joke about
From now on I'ma use self control instead of birth control
Cause $315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth it
adobada burrito por favor
Jeff Pendergraph will go beast mode all over your face
by chalupa king on Aug 18, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
i would respond here with one of my favorite espanol sayings
but i am running out of warnings here on bedge
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
in slang it means
“this guy”
it can also mean something like “this idiot” but that was not my intent
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
Sure it wasn’t… Who you callin GUY, Guy
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW, true story, I went to mexico on vacation with my family once and this is how my dad spoke Spanish to everyone… we were lucky they didn’t ask us to leave the country
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
My Spanish is terrible. I used to take classes and ask all kinds of questions like this. I got yelled at, a lot.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I can speak Spanish well enough
But my spelling is pretty poor
by southern oregon on Aug 18, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions
most of my spanish is not the conversational type
it’s mainly slang terms picked up on the streets of G Town
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
Yeah, out on the streets, I'm like:
Thy self thy foe, to thy sweet self too cruel—Thou that art now the world’s fresh ornament! My Peeps reply in kind.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Toughts on Dwyers post about Brendan Haywood?
I could have sacrificed goin' out
To think my homies who did it, I used to joke about
From now on I'ma use self control instead of birth control
Cause $315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth your soul
$315 ain't worth it
me too
Just on general principles,I have no idea what Dwyer said
by southern oregon on Aug 18, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I was just about to say Southern Oregon kicks butt
But now you disagree with me so now you don’t think you kick butt SORRY PAL YOU SNOOZE YOU LOOZE.
ok I read it and I[just this once] retract my previous disagreement
Can I kick butt now?
by southern oregon on Aug 18, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Southern Oregon has a butt list
Please leave me off of it. – Elgin
Without you out there, we're nowhere here
Haywood could have said a lot worse things though
What he said wasn’t TOO bad, but lame.
From what I’ve read about Marbury’s videos, OMG HE IS A GAY doesn’t seem like one of the biggest concerns. It’s 7th grade thinkin’.
Cat massage. Odd. Via Skeets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnZhi5gaX8g
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
Speaking of Mike Vick
Did any of you know about “Ron Mexico”?—The NFL now does not allow for customizable Jerseys to have printed “Mexico” on the back as a result…
lol. the one with herpes right? i forget the whole story but that was psydumen (sp) right?
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
Yeah,
Talk about a pseudonym. When I read Vick had an alias as Ron Mexico, I thought I was reading fiction. Ron Mexico sounds like a name out of some 70 spin-off Will Farrell movie. I hope he had an awesome Magnum PI mustache when he told people that was his name.
by EvilKaramazov on Aug 18, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s Soooooo tiny…. look at that little Ha
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
what a crazy news day
I turn on yahoo today, and the public option is back on the table, Robert Novak is dead, and the corpse of Brett Favre is going to the Vikings. I’m happy about two of those things.
There's always money in the banana stand!
Now accessible for R rated comments at thetinfoil@gmail.com
From Trout's Twitter Page
If you want to chat, go to outlaw25.com and ask me some questions…I’ll get right back at cha!
#25
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by broyposse on Aug 18, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
i want to go to there
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
30 rock reference… anyone?
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
I got it
And rec’d it.
Tina Fey’s daughter said it when she saw some candy or something, in real life.
it looks like he gain some upper body muscle
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where are you getting these pics? lol
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
this is Travis' brother Derrick Outlaw...i'd be that too if I was his bro
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooot Wooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!
I had forgotten how badly his numbers droppedin the playoffs... thanks for the reminder Trout
SEASON AVERAGES
Playoffs Team G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG PF PPG
First Round POR 6 0 28.3 0.318 0.250 0.667 0.3 2.7 3.0 0.5 1.70 9.0
Playoff Avg POR 6 0 28.3 0.318 0.250 0.667 0.3 2.7 3.0 0.5 1.70 9.0
Season Team G GS MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG PF PPG
08-09 POR 81 6 27.7 0.453 0.377 0.723 0.9 3.2 4.1 1.0 2.10 12.8
Career 366 26 21.7 0.445 0.359 0.733 0.9 2.5 3.4 0.8 1.90 9.6
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
don't hate on Trout!!! Except this POOL FAIL
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooot Wooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!
nice goggles lol.
they could make this into a tv show. kinda like rob and big cept with trav and his bro
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
Where is the bikini top???
yeah!
"I'm tired" -Me
by 92wastheyear on Aug 18, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Glad to see that
Travis is working on his game in the off season.
by southern oregon on Aug 18, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
oh come on southern!!!!
a kid can’t have fun after 2 a days in the morning?…and after this “freshness” he went for his 3rd workout at night!
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"I'm addicted to Polo y'all" (see shirt)
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
the girl in the middle has a really great smile.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
by Cablinasian on Aug 18, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions
she does not need the Yellow Teeth Remover from SBN
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I'd belly up like that if little bro had my back financially.
Well done, sir. Well done. Enjoy the run off and kick it.
link?
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
also link to his chat?
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
i'm posting it on my page!
hahahahha shhhhhhhhhhhh
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Does Trout have a thing for Orientals?
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 18, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
he had an asian girl for awhile
Senior Asian ambassador of Blazers Edge
by Philthyanimal on Aug 19, 2009 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
You need to hang around grandparents more then
My wife’s dad actually still says Oriental, and it sounds funny from his mouth-voice.
My gramma said negro until the day she died
And she didn’t die until last November. There were some awkward moments, as she was a Detroit gal.
My grandma did too
She rarely saw ‘em so it didn’t come up much but it was funny when it did. She didn’t mind Negros though, just Indians and Mexicans, so it’s okay.
She didn’t have a TV from the time my dad left home (1975 or so) till we got her one till about 1995. A week after we get one, we ask her how she likes it, and she goes “sure are a lot of Negros on TV now! They got them on the news and everything. And when did all the Negros start playing basketball?!”
We still say that last line in our family.
When one of my younger sisters was little, grandma said “negro” around her, and lil’ sis mistakenly thought that word was as bad as the real N-word and she got real quiet… and then slowly said “you know grandma… they call us crackers… I don’t think either word is nice”.
It was cute.
She had my pappy when she was 40+, so she was old
She used to be a teacher at the local high school, but a kid was mouthing off to her so she threw him down some stairs (!!!). 100% true story.
Instead of firing her, the school asked her to just be a secretary there instead.
Is this the grandma who made the auto dealer take the radio out of the car?
(I can’t believe I remember this story.)
She would express her hatred
Of Mexicans and Indians to get out of jury duty mostly.
She was a big liberal other than those beliefs, and her husband was ultra conservative, and back in the day when you voted you could pull one lever to just vote down the party line on all elections, so their votes would just cancel the other out. But instead of just not voting, they didn’t trust the other to not sneak off and vote, so they’d go together and vote at the same time.
She also made me draw political cartoons of Reagan eating boogers and stuff.
hahaha i'm glad Morty is not the only racist person here...
not all Asians are from the orient, only 99.999% of them are and they all came over in a boat or train
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then dropped on a boat in the ocean...leaving my birthplace location
12°16’N 109°10’E
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Yeah? My relatives got sent here during the war.
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 19, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, i can see my Dad/Mom/Uncle/Aunt/Gpa/Gma/Cousins in that pic...
dood, we are brothers!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You can call me daddy
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 19, 2009 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Those are called caves
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 19, 2009 12:46 AM PDT up reply actions
there's a ton of nice resorts now in SE Asia...
kinda sad too
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Hoang Anh is nice
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 19, 2009 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Though I'm partial to Sihanoukville
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 19, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Ouch?
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 19, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Like the Ganges. A god caught you with a lock of his hair.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
Who is racist? Not me.
I use that word because I can.
Do ma.
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 19, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm spelling it pho-ne-tic-all-i-y
Get it? Pho.
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 19, 2009 12:32 AM PDT up reply actions
hmm, that's one place i haven't been too...saw Pho-nomenal somewhere
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How about Pho King?
"Should I ask? What's a punani?" - by annthefan on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM
by Sexual Tyrannosaurus on Aug 19, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions
go here to the Exam room and see how you score
sign up and see how you score
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he has a great rug collection
He likes the Ming Dynasty vases as well. – Elgin
Without you out there, we're nowhere here
I’m very disappointed in Trout… I saw this at 5, wrote him a question about his leaping ability, and have still not heard an answer… I guess he’s too busy by the pool to answer my questions
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm not sure how i feel about organ trafficking...4500 died last year waiting for a kidney
would Free Markets cure this or create chaos?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32464069/ns/health-health_care/
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Guarantees the wealthy a long fruitful life
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
how much will insurance cover though if the cost goes up due to free market demand?
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Who knows?
It probably depends on what happens with the health care reform that you may have heard about.
What is this healthcare reform you speak of? I am unawares of it
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Slightly related note… I walked past this minivan today on my way to get some caffeinated goodness.. the minivan was all painted up with anti-Obama slogans on the side…“he lied to us, his government isn’t transparent, you can’t read the bills, etc.” and on the back, it said something about the healthcare bill, and told you to read it for yourself and gave a page number and paragraph…
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.
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So here’s my question… if the Gov’t isn’t transparent and isn’t letting you read the bills, then how do you know to cite page and paragraph from the bill?
regardless of political leanings… that’s just bad form… the side of the care was apparently not informed of the back of the cars message
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
They might have meant that
They got the page and paragraph from Rush Linbaugh but are personally to dumb to read
by southern oregon on Aug 18, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions
how about a non-profit that buys organs?
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yep, make it regulated by the FDA
…anyone want to start a business?!?!?!??! Morty, you are CEO!!!
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I'd like to be the first
to bid on Jimmy Smith’s Hammond B3. – Elgin
Without you out there, we're nowhere here
donors...like any other non-profit
and of course, car washes
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i think i just figured out
how im gonna pay for college
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
your booty couldn't make enough dough huh?
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Where would be
A hobo rich environment in Portland?
by southern oregon on Aug 18, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions
under the bridges of the 405
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I will talk about DeJuan Blair no more forever
in the wooded areas along I5 through downtown
by The Arkitect on Aug 18, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
cool, i'll listen tonight after i stop posting Trout pictures
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I think you would black market
how would you know the kidney you got wasn’t stolen from someone? Or worse, what about people being murdered for the express purpose of organ harvesting? Or less dramatically, do we really want people trying to make a few bucks by selling vital organs? What are the long term implications of a large increase in people who have given up organs? Are they going to need more intense medical care later in life?
Can you imagine the price of livers and hearts? The last thing we need to do is insert more costs into the medical world. Hospitals are already ridiculously expensive.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
why did I delete half my title?
I think it would create a terrible black market
(even worse than the one that exists now)
The potential for exploitation is extreme while the potential for life saving is small. I have heard arguments that say fewer people would donate organs if there was a market. (If there is a market for it, why would I give up my kidney even for money….there must be other people selling). I have a great concern that too many people would be priced out of the market. If kidneys are going for 25,000 on the open market how many people could afford them? When a lot of people don’t know what their car insurance covers how can we expect people to know if their health insurance pays for new organs?
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
my boy le betard is on PTI. BAM!
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
he ruined over/under lol
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
Sorry
Who were ya hoping for??
"I'm tired" -Me
by 92wastheyear on Aug 18, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
see you all later...have fun!
die morty
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooot Wooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!
by broyposse on Aug 18, 2009 5:45 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
more pics!?
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the '80 Lakers would indeed be a .500 + team today
In fact, they might contend for championships. True, they had fewer leap-out-of-the-building athletes. But if you watched the Olympics last year, you may have noticed that the mighty American “Redeem Team” very nearly lost to a team (Spain) that had ZERO leap-out-of-the-building athletes.
The hated ‘80 Lakers—and other elite teams from that era—did indeed have “all-around skill” to match today’s teams. E.g., they knew how to dribble, pass, set screens, read defenses, block out, etc. Pure athletic ability wins on the track every time, but basketball is another story.
"We don't back down to nobody." --Joel Przybilla
I love last.fm
Put on Kenny Wayne Sheppard as the station and just enjoy
going to have to man up
Leave the AC comfort of home and go sweat my ass off at band practice in a few minutes, it has cooled down to the low 90’s and I am trying to convince myself that the band room wont be an inferno,yeah right
by southern oregon on Aug 18, 2009 7:29 PM PDT reply actions
Sup ladies?
The NBA: Where amazingly bad officiating happens, is encouraged, and rewarded.
by Dirty Socks on Aug 18, 2009 7:59 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
speaking of the BEdge fantasy football league
anyone wanna let me trade up into the 3rd/4th round?
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
I'm not going to say that's a bad offer
but c’mon
my 3rd round pick for your 7th round pick and then some filler in the late rounds….
I’ll send you a counter offer
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
fair enough
but i was just seeing what you would take for it. if you took that deal then good for me :)
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
I can't think of a trade I like
I really like my 24th pick
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
this is the thing
now that I’ve seen your list of picks, I don’t see an area that I can improve by trading away any of those 3 picks (24, 34, 37)
I’ve got consistent picks until the 50s and then I don’t want to pick up a pick later than that for the price of a 3rd or 4th rounder.
Unless you want to give me your 10th pick
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
I've been trying to get something to work with the 10th pick
but everything seems to be either wildly in my favor or wildly in yours….I don’t think this is going to work
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
I'm thinking a smaller move
but I can’t figure out exactly what to offer
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
I’m waiting for 2k10 to come out in early October… the computer version was pretty cheap last year.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
by Cablinasian on Aug 18, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions
that's why im thinking about getting 2k9 now
cause it’s much cheaper and i can’t imagine the game being drastically different
by phillyduck23 on Aug 18, 2009 11:28 PM PDT up reply actions
it was only 20 bucks for a new PC copy of 2k9. I’d get a used 2K9 right after 2k10 comes out. The price should drop.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
by Cablinasian on Aug 18, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
District 9 - Do yourself a favor and go see it
One of the most original Sci-fi movies I have seen in a while
Turkish star prospect Enes Kanter takes opposite road of Jeremy Tyler, comes to high school in US
The man billed as the next great big man out of Turkey after Okur “signed” with renowned Findlay College Prep, Nevada, instead of signing a contract with one of the major European teams hoping to make millions soon. He might even go to college in the US. It’s a weird world.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
Well that went well
The music was fun and productive,the homemade tamales were excellent and I brought a couple home. does any one else have to come down for a few hours after they play before they can go to sleep?
by southern oregon on Aug 18, 2009 11:33 PM PDT reply actions
Well, sure. Bet the adrenalin keeps you up until 2 or 3.
Sounds like a good way to spend a hot evening.
wow Diora Baird's twitter is hilarious (and NSFW)
http://twitter.com/diorabaird1
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
she is ridiculously hot
and it’s good to know she has a fun character too
by phillyduck23 on Aug 18, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions
who is she?
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
google her
u won’t be disappointed, also she was the green alien girl in star trek
by phillyduck23 on Aug 18, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
o gawd
that golf picture… drool…….
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions
you would know
jk
"It was like some sort of crazy torture in the movies. How do people do that so long without taking a breath? I think my ears are still ringing."
-Adrian Peterson, describing Autzen
by dougall5505 on Aug 18, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
imdb says
that she just does minor roles where she shows off her boobs (Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning, Accepted, My Best Friend’s Girl, Wedding Crashers, etc. etc.)
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
woops it wasn't her in star trek
filmdrunk kinda lied to me
by phillyduck23 on Aug 18, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Glad to know I'm not the only person who didn't have a clue who she is
The wiki line amused me: “Baird guest-starred in episodes of Big Day where her character was known for her large breasts”
hahaha
apparently everyone likes to tell it like it is when it comes to her…
she definitely gets props for having one of the funnier celebrity twitter pages i have seen
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
Ya, I like the twitter stuff when people don't take themselves too seriously
I was just thinking about this after reading the overanalysis of Outlaw’s tweet on the front page.
hahahaah yeah
I think Ben was making something out of nothing
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
I just hated when Outlaw twittered that if he doesn't get 17 to 20 shots a game he will shoot Brandon in the face
Maybe it was out of context but it sounds bad.
almost as bad as his
“I snapped and killed a drifter” tweet
"Put your drawers on, and take your gun off."
I don't mind the deed
Just the announcing of it, and not adding the ‘aw shucks… c’mon…’ that surely followed the statement.
Aw c'mon
You just didn’t like the fact that he used the word “drifter” and not the politically correct “hobo”
drifters fight back
hobos just accept it
not that I would know from experience
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
you know who we have not seen for a while?? Hobobob!
Mort?
"I'm tired" -Me
by 92wastheyear on Aug 19, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
He made one mistake
He revealed he had a 60 inch HDTV and that he lives near San Diego.
The rest was fate.
I wouldnt recognize her if I saw her on the street
But I usually notice large breast’s
by southern oregon on Aug 19, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
who is she? she has oversize Fake Plastic Trees
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!! Wooooooooooot Wooooooooooooot!!!!!!!!!
he will be the missing piece for Cleveland this year.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
by Cablinasian on Aug 19, 2009 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Once he has the football jersey on
He has to be wearing a girdle/body slimmer thing. When he got off his plane in Pittsburgh his gut and boobs were showing through his shirt when the wind blowed. He was so out of shape.
My thought was that he’d be super motivated for this season, to beat Kobe one last time. An out of shape Shaq doesn’t help Cleveland much.
"If the Lakers are Hollywood, then we are South Central." - Clipper fan.
by Cablinasian on Aug 19, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe I just have fat goggles on
Ben Rothsalkhakldlakdalisburger was fat too.
WHY IS EVERYONE SO FAT.
(Shaq does look real out of shape though. No idea when this show was taped, so maybe he got back in shape, as is his want).
This dang lady at work always calls me Mr. Thomas of (last name) when I get to work
And she keeps talking about death to me. I’m pretty sick of it. Yesterday she came up to me after saying Mr. Thomas… and said, “I was thinking about you.” Then she patted me on the shoulders and said, “How you holdin’ up?” She’s driving me nuts.
Say you need a bosom to cry into
Then while sitting and she is standing next to you with her hand on your shoulder, turn and get a face full of boob.
For reals
Her son just tried to kill himself and then a week later her stepfather died. Her husband also died recently. I think she’s looking for a death buddy.
Make up fake people in your life who are dying
See how she reacts. If gleefull, she wants a death buddy.
I wanna take a picture of it
But it would get deleted.
Poor puppies!
She has a military camouflage donut thing that prevents her from picking at it. The cone was bogus, a nice lady I see when walking Mercury lent it to me. Works great, but makes her look like a lesbian puppy.
Well first I gotta take a pic of it
And remove the bandages that I carefully applied before that. And get new batteries for the camera before even that.
TOO MUCH WORK, NO THANK YOU SIR.
But I will take a pic before the surgery, for historical purposes. I’m just glad the tests came back good, but I hope the surgery is easy.
Put mustard on it
I bet her chewing it off is cheaper than the surgery. Then you just gotta pay for stitches.
If only it bothered her earlier
Back when they said it was a harmless fatty cyst and it was smaller than a golf ball, she coulda’ chewed it off. Now it is huge and red and a baseball, so I think it’s too much.
Plus it’ll prolly hurt her tummy and she’ll want to go outside and eat some grass to throw it up, and I’m all comfy right now.
The tests to tell me it was something bad were expensive
I just want them to take it out and do a good job, it’s not too much to ask.
And you didn't say what you were praying for
Her growth just got worse, so I attribute it to your negative prayers.
There are rumors that Daniel Bailey, 4th in Berlin and training partner of Usain Bolt but starting for Antigua and Barbuda, was tested positive in a training control before the championships
His personal best is 9.91 and he ran 9.93 in Berlin. It’s from a well-regarded source, but the IAAF organization committee hasn’t made it public yet. We will see.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
If you were going to take a PED
What one would you use? Boys on my high school football team blood doped. I gradated in 1990 in LA.
Nope
I always wonder if it will. Most blogs seem to be. I think Gmail is next. The guys in the call center next door all chat on it.
A guy from the Johnson & Johnson family was the first one to have an AC in his house in the 1920s
Then someone tried to kidnap his child. I saw it on the Biography Channel.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
I don't have a thermostat
But I need AC or I will die during the summer. The sun reflects off the pool the apartments in our condo surround and heats up my apartment sumthin’ fierce. No breeze either.
I haven't yet read Timbo's latest piece on Joel. Will do that later in the day.
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
He takes a 180 degree turn from his previous stance on Joel
Sez he is a bum and we shouldn’t trade him, but cut him right away. We need more of a jumpshooter as the backup 5.
I came into the office and said, "It smells like dirty socks in here."
The lady I mentioned above made Portuguese Bean Soup.
lol
what’s up with your coworkers? first you have the food-spewing-open-wide one and now the death-buddy-portuguese-recipes-lover. What’s next?
remember the game Spain - Cuba last week?
four of the Cuban players fled the team and they are in “unknown whereabouts”. They’ll probably file for political asylum in a few days.
I'm working on a fanpost trying to get Bill Schonely off the opening to Courtside
I’m also thinking of throwing Brian Grant under the bus. Any other fan favorites I should go after?
You might want to call Sabonis an injury-prone bust
"I'm addicted to polo y'all...respect my fresh" - Travis25Outlaw
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