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My favorite quote:

"Potentially, Turkoglu can evolve into a MVP-type candidate."

Um...

Um.....

Probably not.

over 2 years ago Buck1_tiny leeroyjenkins 41 comments 3 recs  | 

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Also because he's 6'10" he can go around smaller defenders and get any shot he wants - he's like a taller Michael Jordan

Also at 30 “Turkoglu is in his basketball prime, ready for one of those off-the-chart seasons.”

Yes because usually 30 year olds who have two strong seasons (out of nine total) under their belt perform amazingly well the year after they sign a big contract.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Aug 12, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

man, great minds think alike

i just put the exact same comment on the JD, minutes ago. I was skimming through Truehoop and couldn’t believe my eyes.
http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/8/12/986329/8-12-big-baby-hate-junk#19571611

by medmelon on Aug 12, 2009 8:00 AM PDT reply actions  

and it's not like

it’s that quote and that’s all, the whole piece is like a gigantic Turkish acid trip

by medmelon on Aug 12, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, great stuff

For the Raptors to excel, it is up to the team to make sure that the ball ends up in Turkoglu’s hands when it crosses mid-court.

For the Raptors to compete for home-court advantage in the post-season, it would be wise that every decision is made by Turkoglu.

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by iDea on Aug 12, 2009 8:29 AM PDT reply actions  

Daaaaa Glue.

Now the Raps need Coach Ditka.

My favorite teams are the Blazers and any team that is playing the Lakers.

by OCBlazerFan1 on Aug 12, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw this on truehoop

and almost reposted it as well. My fav quotes.

When you look at the composition of the team, Turkoglu is by far the Raptors’ most accomplished player.

Did he forget they have Chris Bosh? Or is Turkoglu more accomplished because he went to the NBA finals last year? All Bosh has done is put this team on his back since he was drafted and basically avg 20/10.

Making the playoffs for this team simply is not good enough because GM Bryan Colangelo has done too good of a job of revamping his roster and revitalizing the franchise.

Personally I have a hard to seeing this team making the playoffs, even in the East. They have Bosh , Turkey, and Jose, but after them it is a pretty steep drop off in talent and/or experience. Andrea is overrated and soft as a Center which is where they will have to play him, Jack is a good pick up as a back up 1, but he has never really liked being a back up, here or in Indy he was moved because of it both times. They have no SG of any experience on the roster, and their Bench is non-existent.

This season should not be about getting Bosh touches or appeasing the team’s "franchise player’’ for fear of losing him.

This season should not be about having Bargnani settle for perimeter jump shots.

This season should be about managing Turkoglu’s minutes and making sure he is the first option in crunch time.

If Bosh were to get hurt, Bargnani, who will begin the year at centre, can easily move over to his position at power forward.

If Jose Calderon were to get hurt and continue to get exposed defensively, there’s Jarrett Jack.

And we thought our writers were bad. You have a franchise player, you make him happy, because they don’t come around that often. If Bosh bolts his offseason, then the Raptors are a 30 win team next year. Turkey is only a good signing if they resign both next summer, because after 2 or 3 years, Hedo will begin to fall off quickly. The Raptors GM has assembled a team that has a 2 or 3 year window to make the playoffs, but they won’t have much of a chance to advance, and that is a really short window. I don’t see what he is so excited about.

by usmcr3049 on Aug 12, 2009 8:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Maybe he knows Bosh is gone and is trying to soften the blow.

And, this isn’t directed at you, but he did say “MVP type player.”

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.

by staylost on Aug 12, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I understand what he meants by that

but in my opinoin, Hedo isn’t in the same breath as other MVP-type players, like our own B-Roy, his teammate Bosh, or his former teammate Dwight.

He is simply a player that was overrated because his team went to the NBA finals, he played horribly last year, and in the playoffs, but somehow everyone looked over that part because his team went to the finals. Maybe they should realize that Dwight had more to do with that than Hedo, and SVG had more to do with that than any of their players. That was a seriously good coaching job by SVG last year.

by usmcr3049 on Aug 12, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t agree with the columnist either, but it seems sorta harsh to act like he compared Turk to Kobe. He probably meant something more like Turk’s stat line may end up looking pretty fantastic with the Raptors – I disagree with this too, but it is much less inflammatory.

I totally agree about SVG being the real big deal.

It still seems like the point of the article is just to get Raptor fans excited about their future (guys they are stuck with) so the forget about their past (Bosh).

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.

by staylost on Aug 12, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

From what I can tell the people who think Colangelo "has done too good a job putting together that roster"

is like one person. This guy.

I mean it’s not a horrible lineup on paper …but for what they are paying for it, it is.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Aug 12, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think someone should give this article to Chris Bosh...

I think it should cement his decision to move on after next year.

by jenstcy on Aug 12, 2009 9:06 AM PDT reply actions  

rec

When I rule the world, everyone will know how to use Excel.

by jscot on Aug 12, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember watching Shaq put up 45 effortless points against their front court last year

I remember feeling embarrassed for Toronto when watching this game. Shaq devastatingly manhandled Bosh and Bargnani all night, I don’t know how those two can look in the mirror again. Check out some highlights.

by WildlyRamified on Aug 12, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

that’s soft. Good link!

by levelhed on Aug 12, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

They start the season against him

And will face Shaq three more times, so the man-handling should be brutal.

All that glitters isn't chrome

by hoopla-pdx on Aug 13, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hahahaha.

“#1 Sports Columnist in the country.”

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by CaptainSexyJacob on Aug 12, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s so funny, I was thinking the exact same thing.

by resurrect_ha28 on Aug 12, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahahaha

The Kings have the best bench I’ve seen. There are easily 14 guys on this team good enough for every bench in the league. Now if we could only get some starters, I’d totally jizz in my pants.

Kings fan

by dyshooter182 on Aug 12, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's with all the one sentence paragraph's?

If he bothered to justify (or try to) some of the outlandish statements he made with a supporting paragraph, the thing might read much better. As it is, it looks like some dim-witted high schooler brainstormed about Turk and came up with a few silly assertions. What we see is the preliminary version. His teacher’ll hand it back to him for revision.

Man, can anyone get a job writing? Tuuuuuurrrible.

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by hobobob on Aug 12, 2009 11:09 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

That's what I thought too

I hate those one sentence paragraphs.

I’m really not sure if he has watched Hedo before, or checked out his stats. He is a decent player, sure, and a role player. BUT A ROLE PLAYER IS WHAT HE IS, not a MVP of a team. And guys who had their best season 2 years ago and then have a big dip in production in the same situation and role don’t normally then elevate their game.

For our team, that’s fine— we wanted a co-playmaker and shot maker. For the Raptors, it’s another guy who does what they got already. He is what they hope Bargnani can become. Oh goodness, the Raptors will be a bad team…

Man, that is a crazy article. Just, nuts.

Mortimer

by Mortimer on Aug 12, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

All star team is actually a great goal

Clearly Lebron gets voted in for SF, and if Turk is having a great year, he could beat out Prince and Pierce for the other spot.

As far as Hedo being the 1st scoring option over Bosh… Huh? In what universe? We were going to bring him in to be our third scoring option.

Still on the Rex bandwagon.

by dan_the_man on Aug 12, 2009 12:13 PM PDT reply actions  

don't forget about Danny Granger, Caron Butler, and Gerald Wallace

Getting on the All Star team would be an amazing accomplishment for Turkoglu

by WildlyRamified on Aug 12, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

And really

It’s just the 2 top vote getting forwards, and then the coaches selection of forwards in general… doesn’t have to be a small forward.

Bosh, Iggy, Pierce, Granger, Butler, Wallace, LEBRON, Jamison, Brand, Young, Redd, Josh Smith, KG, and Eazy Yi Jianlian with the write-in vote all got a likely better shot at making the allstar game.

And that isn’t a knock on Hedo; he isn’t that sort of player. He’s a role player. If he did well enough and led the Raptors team to a much better record, then yeah… he could make it. That just isn’t a reasonable expectation for him is all. To expect that is to walk into the situation with 99.99% chance of disappointment. At 30, he isn’t gonna grow wings or sumthin’. He is what he is.

Morty

by Mortimer on Aug 12, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does this writer...

Always use one sentence paragraphs?

Man – that is annoying.

"Now, you take a bobcat or a Jayhawk. You know they'll run if you give 'em the chance. But when one don't run, why, you shoot him and shoot him quick. Raef's my dog, Pa. I've gotta do what's right..." Old Yeller (1957)

by RoyGoesTheDynamite on Aug 12, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I like

how not oriented raptor fans raptor players and especially Hedo are. His goal is All-Star team, and the article is about how his goal should be MVP. Have they mentioned to these guys that there is something at the end of the season called the play offs that for most people is usually the goal to have in mind?

- Sam

by RipCitySam on Aug 12, 2009 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

"That is why being an all-star simply won't suffice"

That is too bad Toronto. It will have to. If you are lucky.

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by Norsktroll on Aug 12, 2009 3:02 PM PDT reply actions  

My favorite quote:

“Bosh has played in all-star games and won an Olympic gold. Big deal.”

by MiledAnimal on Aug 12, 2009 3:40 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

It is like a big 'ole finger to everyone whose ever won gold!

Oh, man! Thanks for noticing that!

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.

by staylost on Aug 12, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Worst.

Article.
Ever.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Aug 12, 2009 4:44 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

well said.

optimism ftw

by Cablinasian on Aug 12, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

his style was…
Aggravating.
To say the least.

optimism ftw

by Cablinasian on Aug 12, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another funny link : http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors

FEUDS: Smith says Hedo not worth $50M

Hedo Turkoglu | Raptors

According to RealGM.com, Orlando general manager Otis Smith didn’t feel Hedo Turkoglu was worth the five-year, $50M contract Portland was ready to spend on the free agent and he told Kevin Pritchard that the Blazers “caught a break” with Turkoglu signing with Toronto and made it clear they “weren’t missing out on anything.”
Turkoglu ended up signing a five, $52.8M deal with the Raptors, after initially agreeing verbally to a contract with the Blazers.

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by leeroyjenkins on Aug 13, 2009 6:41 AM PDT reply actions  

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