Martell Webster update

Brandon Roy talks about Martell, his work habits, what Martell means to Brandon on the basketball court, and when he should be cleared for competition. From an article by Brian Smith of the Columbian.

over 2 years ago Clevelander among roses 8 comments 2 recs |

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In case you forgot about Martell's game, this should help

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMVXnJDBtnI

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by Clevelander among roses on Aug 12, 2009 1:37 AM PDT reply actions

I’ll have to rain on the parade. That’s not exactly exemplary. He never had more than 30 points a game. That’s like taking Jerryd’s game against New Jersey going to the line every minute and dunking on people’s heads and say “why does that guy not start for us already”. And he wasn’t just injured a year. That Martell comes back and immediately plays like that or better is extremely unlikely. He will be a good weapon as a spot-up shooter, but I don’t expect him to immediately become the go-to defender and starter with improved handles slashing to the basket again. Roy is talking about what he once did, not what he is doing right now.

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by Norsktroll on Aug 12, 2009 2:29 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

If people are going to talk about how incredible Nic's offensive potential is

I think it’s valid to bring up Martell’s Utah quarter. I mean, Nic went a stretch of 6 games this season playing at least 15 minutes in each except the last, scoring a total of 3 points. Not 3 points per, but three points total. Even over the last month of the season he averaged fewer than 5 points per, and it’s not like playing alongside Joel and Steve the opportunities there aren’t there. Obviously scoring isn’t everything, but is it really necessary to rain on Webby’s parade about Utah when you have Nic’s offense being compared to Scottie Pippen?

by Royster on Aug 12, 2009 5:10 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

That is comparing Web’s career vs. Batum’s rookie season,

PPG instead of PPM,

Scoring is Webster’s forte vs. defense is Batum’s,

And making a straw man where someone said Nic’s offense is comparable to Pippen’s (people have said that is his ceiling, when people used to talk about Webster they would talk about Jordan)….

Still, the fundemental point is not lost. Nic is young, and he is no sure thing either.
The difference, is we know that Nic can be there and what he can do, even if it is just a little. Martell’s injury has been weird and he is really an unknown right now. I support Martell, but I don’t support relying on him given the circumstances. I’ll lend him more credence when he can play a full practice getting checked by Batum.

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.

by staylost on Aug 12, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions

My point wasn't that Nic sucks or Martell is some god

although I have absolutely never heard Webster compared to Jordan, not as a rookie, not in HS, never, whereas everyday you see Nic compared to Pippen, so if you’re going to attack that as a strawman, at least set up a reasonable one for comparison.

If Nic did that same thing, half of BE would be wetting themselves that he’s the next LeBron. Sure, Marty has limitations, but I don’t see why we need to downplay his highlights while celebrating the fact that Nic helped hold Kobe to under 40% shooting twice as the next great defender in the league.

by Royster on Aug 12, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Comparing Martell to Bayless....

not a great comparison. We all understand Bayless has not been a season-long starter, while Webster has. In his last full season, Webster averaged nearly 11 points and 4 rebounds. Yes we need to see that he’s fully healed and recovered from his injury, but whether or not he will be a major contributor when healthy isn’t much of a debate. He has already proven that.

However I do agree that using Martell’s best game as the point of reference is not really valid.

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by antediluvian on Aug 12, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions

thanks for the link.

Reading this got me excited about seeing martell out there this year. This seasons gonna be awesome!

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by GoBlaze22 on Aug 12, 2009 3:12 AM PDT reply actions

Just in case you missed it, here's what KP said the other day on the Game re: MW

KV: How close to 100% will Webster be when you open camp?

KP:

I think he’ll be very close…he’s progressing nicely…there was a time during the year last year where that it [the fracture area] was a slow growth, like it wasn’t filling in like it needed to…but here in the last 3-4 months it’s really filled in nicely and we feel like he’ll be really close to 100% starting in September…we’ll "tier him up" slowly because it’s more important for him to be ready in late October versus September but he’s out there running, he’s shooting we expect him to make a big contribution this year, he’s kind of like our free agent signing because he missed all of last year, so we’re gonna really welcome him back and hopefully he can help us.

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by two4larue on Aug 12, 2009 8:34 AM PDT reply actions