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Breaking down the Blazers......Part 2

 

Breaking down the Blazers…….Part 2

Breaking down the Blazers by position….Part Two

Who is our point guard? And who do we want to be our point guard?  These are two questions that have often been asked about our Portland Trailblazers over the last couple of seasons.  We’ve had a number of players look to claim that spot over the years, Steve Blake, Sergio Rodriguez, Jerryd Bayless, Petteri Kopponen, to name a few.  And we had another hopeful in Summer League camp in Patty Mills until he went down with an unfortunate foot injury.

Our point guards going into the 2009-10 season.
Andre Miller, starter
Steve Blake, backup
Brandon Roy, may pick up a few minutes here and there at the point
Bayless, not likely to see much time at this position unless there is an injury to Blake or Miller.

There may have been more questions about who the Blazers will use at this position than any other.  Hopefully some of those questions were answered during the offseason with the free agent signing of veteran Andre Miller.  Everyone knows that Brandon Roy will handle the ball, including our opponents.  The guy got mugged in the playoffs last year and clearly needed some help.  If you are one of those folks who insist Brandon Roy is the point guard on our team I respectfully disagree.  He can fill that spot at times, but we are asking him to do so much already, in the long run its probably best if someone else initiates the fast break and starts the offense.  Roy admitted as much after Miller was signed and said he was looking forward to fast breaking more.  That was good news to me, and I’m sure to other fans who have been disenchanted with Nates ball control offense.

Andre Miller

Despite what kind of smoke Nate was blowing around the wagons when he made his recent comments about Steve Blake being the starter, and not thinking it wise to tinker with the lineup of a 54 win team, Andre Miller is going to be our starter at the point guard position.  We can say what we want about open competition in training camp, guys having to EARN their spots, or starters having secure jobs until someone takes them away……Andre Miller will take that postion, and he will do so because there is no one close to being as good as he is at the 1 on this team.

In our video locker we have some footage of Andre Miller.  I like Steve Blake, but Blakey is not even in the same league as this guy.  Has Blake Blocked Jermaine ONeal or Dirk Nowitzki?  Nor does he have the inside game, fast break game, finishing ablility, or deadly mid range jumper.  If you haven’t watched Miller play all that much or aren’t that familiar with his game check out the highlight reels.  Andre can play. And he can play well enough that at one point signed a close to maximum contract with Denver.

The Trailblazers did not cough up the rest of their capspace on Andre Miller to give him the ten to fifteen minutes of PT, that last seasons backup Sergio Rodriguez got.  Even though Miller was GM Kevin Prictchards third attempt at signing a free agent this summer he is still a player we wanted and who probably wanted to come here more than the other two did.  He is a big upgrade over the incumbent Steve Blake and I, for one, and really looking forward to see what he can do with this team.

Miller is a smart player who has made every team he played for better.  He is a leader.  He is a teacher.  He is a coach on the floor.  And despite the fact that his arrival probably means Jerryd Bayless will again be sitting more than playing, Miller might just be the guy that ends up helping Bayless put it all together.  Both are tenacious.  Both are tough.  And neither one of them is afraid of hard work.

LA and Oden probably don’t know it yet, but Miller is going to make both of them better.  If they get open they WILL get the ball.  Put Miller and Oden out there together, and I guarantee you that we won’t be seeing Greg wandering around wondering why no one will pass him the ball.  He will get it. and he will get it on his way to the hoop where he can do the most damage with it.

Fans of Rudys special connection with his pal Sergio need not worry about missing out on those spectacular lobs and dunks.  Miller is as good as anyone in the league with that pass.  It won’t take long for these two to work that play out.

Miller grew up in a very rough neighborhood in Los Angeles and was raised by a single parent.  She worked hard to make sure he learned how to get the things he wanted out of life.  She made sure he put in the effort necessary for him to suceed scholastically, and athletically.  Neither one of those things was particularly easy for Andre.  He had to sit out a year in college so he could become academically eligible.  His coach Rick Majerus later said of him that school was so difficult for him that he had to put in A effort, just to get a C.  Miller ended up graduating from Utah with two degrees.

For several seasons now Steve Blake has started at point guard.  The coach likes him.  Kevin Pritchard likes him.  His teammates like him.  Thats real nice, but the sentiment was always that we could do better at that position.  I’ve heard it said many times that people thought Blake was great, but what they would really like is for him to be our backup point guard and that he’d be the perfect backup for this team.

I’m not sure “perfect backup” is the spot Steve Blake envisions for himself as a career goal.  He has been a very important part of our team for the last few seasons, and has earned the respect our coach was giving him when he declined the opportunity to handover the starting role to Miller before training camp.

Blake is at times a deadly three point shooter and can easliy transition into a 2 after dumping the ball off to Brandon.  Having enough gunners on the floor to help with spacing and keep opponents from clogging the middle is important for our team.

I’m just kind of wondering at this point how the minutes are going to break down because Miller really should get most of them.  If Miller gets the minutes that Blake got last year, is the ten to fifteen minutes Rodriguez got enough PT for Steve?  I’m not sure it is.  Maybe you try to keep Andre at about 30 minutes, Blake ten to fifteen and the remainder to Brandon?  Or do you give a few minutes each night to Rudy?  Rudy can do a lot more with the ball than he was given the chance to do last season.  Until Miller was picked up there was talk of playing him at the point either to start the game, like he did in the last game vs Houston, or having him back up Blake.

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MPG not the stat. It's MPS

Don’t think of terms of minutes per game. Think in terms of minutes per season. Factors to consider:

1) There are a LOT of bottom fish in the NBA pond, and I think it’s safe to say about 1/4 to 1/3 of our games will be blowout wins by EOQ3. Bayless should get 12 mpg in those. But in the close ones, fuggedaboudit, Bayless = 0, Miller = 34, Blake = 14 or so.

2) It wil also greatly depend on matchups. Bayless might be able to get some D time against small quick 1’s. If Roy and Martell and Nic are off from the 3, or the opposing 1 doesn’t guard the arc, Steve may get more time. When we want to run, it will be Dre. (Which is hope is OFTEN – loving the latest quotes from BRoy and Nate..) getting mid-30’s.

3) Also, there are bound to be a few games Steve misses this year, then Dre and Bayless minutes go up. Less frequently, somebody might get into foul trouble.

So predicting mpg is well-nigh impossible… and not all that fruitful, IMO…

by Visionary1 on Aug 11, 2009 8:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Nate's Gold Medal

will earn its weight this season as he already learned to work with a team stocked with deep talent. Look to how they ran that team during the Olympics and substitute in the Blazers. Situations, injuries, match-ups, line-up pairings, who’s hot, who’s not, and ultimately winning the gold, determined the lineups, and I doubt the coaches were counting minutes during the game.

i can guaranty that not one Blazer will play all 48 minutes in any non-overtime game. So really, who cares who starts if it gives us better match-ups or a better set of mixes. Nate showed by how he used Nic that he is perfectly comfortable having lower minute starters. Not even debatable. He WILL start the season with last year’s crew, even if only for one game. I expect he’ll stay with it if they are starting well the first week or two. Roy does not have to pace anymore and should play every quarter like a fourth quarter, as they all should.

Finally, I disagree with the concept that you can have too much talent and then worry over playing time. Injuries happen, and they wreck many-a-team, so I like the comfort of having deep back-up, hence keep Outlaw unless you can bring in somebody better enough to force playing time, or why bother. Then add another vet (4) with the remaining cap space, but only if a real talent and a good fit (tho’ running out of options). It is a long season, and tougher playoffs.

Its just fine with me if they play 10 deep at 24 minutes each. My contention is that if they actually did that, and split some time out for the young guys, the Blazers would be a better team in the second half than, compared to, if they went conventional and crammed most of the minutes on six guys and stress to win EVERY game in the first half. They may win more games in the first half but they won’t go as deep in the playoffs.

This is not a sprint. This is not a marathon. It is a marathon with a sprint at the end. As a team. Exchanging batons.

Its all fun to figure and fuss with the minutes; I just want to watch how the combinations blend, especially Oden and Miller and Rudy.

Have to agree with Roy – their practices are going to be great. Can someone PLEASE ask the powers-that-be to put on one open practice? One of the highlights of my Blazer’s years was being able to watch rookie Jermaine O’Neal in a pre-season scrimmage. He was an immediate spark-plug. Too bad the idiot coaches wasted him. You need to give the kids some time…

by Sashland on Aug 12, 2009 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not as high...

…on Miller as you are. I see no concrete evidence from his professional career that he is a winner. He won in college, but not since then. I hope you are right, but only time will tell.

by mlsinpdx on Aug 11, 2009 9:01 PM PDT reply actions  

disagree

I think there is ample evidence Miller is a winner. If you haven’t read Timbos excellant two part blog on Andres career, he covers this pretty well. Andre led both Philly and Denver into the playoffs.

by ucatchtrout on Aug 11, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

So correct me if I'm wrong

but didn’t Blake and Miller both play in Denver in 06-07? I wonder how they got along then…

by pxilpooshr on Aug 11, 2009 10:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Miller started, Blake started playing more after Miller was traded to Philly for Iverson.

by ucatchtrout on Aug 11, 2009 11:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Not quite

Miller was traded to Philly in December. Blake was acquired by Denver in January, a few weeks later, and became the starter. So they were never on the same team.

When I rule the world, everyone will know how to use Excel.

by jscot on Aug 12, 2009 4:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bayless will get garbage time and if someone gets injured he'll play backup, and that's it.

I think likely minutes will be Miller getting 26-28 and Blake with 20-22. It’ll vary all over the place with matchups and what have you, but I think the rotation will be similar to Batum and Outlaw last year, or maybe Greg and Joel. Either Blake will start but play less, or will function mainly as a traditional backup but the lineup will be flexible to change for matchups, the hot hand, etc. I’m not worried.

You can measure skill and talent with your eyes, but productivity is shown through statistics.

by austinpwnz on Aug 12, 2009 1:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Ah,a person whos got it goin on!

I like most of what you wrote.KP liked Blake enough to invite him back after he was traded when his contract expired.He came.Like they say,you gotta beat the champ,not draw.Blake will have his chance,and pride aside,if its 4 the team he would relinquish in a sec.if it meant Title.These guys,I must say,are unusually tight.Practices are gonna be killer! Competition is a good thing.Its not inconcievable that Rudy also gets minutes at the point as well as Bayless.You said it,the teacher aspect..Benefit-Everyone stays fresh.But he will be the there when it counts.If Oden is just marginally better when the season starts(ie-fouls),Andre may have a surprizingly low minutes if Nate puts him (he would probably do it himself anyway)in position of teaching and tutoring Bayless ..My confusion is at small forward.Webster is neither defender nor rebounder.He has improved since his inception but going to the hole isnt his strengths. We have better fits on the team If tempo and fastbreak offense is the goal.A marginal finisher at the basket.I would like to see Batum and Rudy share it but with Travis there will be mismatches you cant pass up occasionally at both PF and SF spots.Tweeners!Martell needs mins if 4 nothing else to advertise he is injury free.Available.Productive.Then again,Rudys not in SET in stone to stay,either.The cream will rise ,thanks in part to what appears to be a hell of a fit in A.M.

by JTCOMPY on Sep 1, 2009 10:54 AM PDT reply actions  

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