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KP mildly surprises Blazersedge by haggling over the length of a maximum contract offer to Brandon Roy (as reported by Jason Quick)

From Jason Quick at Olive:

 

That Roy is unsigned is particularly alarming and a signal that negotiations have snagged. Word is that Roy wants to sign for the maximum allowed five years, but the Blazers only want to commit to four years. A five-year deal would cost Portland about $82 million, although it won't be determined until the 2010-11 salary cap is set.

That a player of Roy's talent and character wants to lock in his future with your club should be embraced and lauded. Instead, the team is nickel-and-diming him with the amount of years. It's bad form.

If there was ever a no-brainer in extensions, it's that of Roy. You give him the maximum contract allowed. No hesitation. No questions asked. No nothing, other than showing him the courtesy of signing him the minute the signing moratorium ended Tuesday night.

Star-divide

I can't think of any good excuse for doing this. can you?

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Don't even know what to say.

If he leaves to another team I promise the entire Blazer Nation revenge for Brandon against KP. That is all.

Patience :)

by TheGreatDane17 on Jul 8, 2009 10:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

not that it would happen

but if Roy somehow ended up leaving Portland there would be blood shed in the streets

by GregOden15ppg on Jul 8, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frogs would fall from the sky..... Locusts would swarm and destroy the crops.....

Take a deep breath. Quick has just won himself the 2009 Hysterical Idiot Award™®, topping favorite and 12-time winner John Canzano for the prize.

If you are really worried about Brandon Roy and LMA running off because their 2nd contracts aren’t done on the first day in which it is legally possible, please run around in a circle in your front yard making whooping noises, so that we can all see who you are and have a good laugh.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Jul 9, 2009 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

One thing I really like about Quick's excellent journalism is the way that he includes both Houston and the Lakers as teams that have "improved themselves" via free agency...

That must have been some kind of terrific swap of Small Forwards that allowed BOTH teams to simultaneously improve…

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Jul 9, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This isn’t really fair.

1) Artest is better than Ariza, thus the L*kers improved themselves.

2) Artest was an unrestricted free agent and the Rockets got totally boned by Yao’s injury revelations. Adding Ariza was a very nice rebuilding piece for them. Thus, from the minute Artest’s contract expired to the present moment, they improved as well.

"I take the little gummy bear Flintstones vitamins…I try not to eat the lady. I try not to eat the man. Just give me the car. I try to find the car. Yea, worst case scenario, I eat the lady." - Ron Artest, 2009

by rivetz on Jul 9, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Jul 9, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh!

Is that the new banner everyones been talking about? I knew I liked it.

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by OdenFanBoy on Jul 10, 2009 4:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

my tickets would not be renewed next year.

"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

by ratbastird on Jul 9, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NOT KP's FAULT

its Allen that doesnt want to pony up the money, if forgot how many bandwagon jumpers there were in portland, at least now we know the real fans… and how can you start questioning KP after what he did to this franchise?

by Maximusillian on Jul 10, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Signing extensions

won’t hurt our cap space. They wouldn’t go into effect until next year.

Hello Dum Dum

by ryryslyry on Jul 8, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what perceptions?

I mean hypothetically.

Hello Dum Dum

by ryryslyry on Jul 8, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

for one

it shows a level of commitment to your players to offer them the max deal as soon as you can. waiting could be (mis?)construed as a sign of uncertainty in that commitment

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 8, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

leading other GMs to get their own ideas.

Or to convince them that the Restricted Free Agent that you’re trying to sign may be your number one option, so you’re being serious about it.

Don’t know if that’s really what’s going on, just some examples pulled from my patookus.

μὴ φοβοῦ, μόνον πίστευε.

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by T Darkstar on Jul 8, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah but still I don't think there is a GM that would buy us not

signing Roy. It doesn’t make sense to me regardless of this article. Roy being signed should have been old news by now.

Hello Dum Dum

by ryryslyry on Jul 8, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec

for the use of “patookus”

Gimmicks don't make dynasties

by WarEaglePDX on Jul 8, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This

i thought this was common knowledge? surprises me that quick wouldnt be accounting for this

"When jumpers are outlawed only Outlaw will take jumpers"-LoadedOrygun

by DominicanAvenger on Jul 8, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's not common knowledge because the two things are mutually exclusive

signing them to extension now has absolutely ZERO affect on our present salary cap situation, or our salary cap situation any time before July 1, 2010.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 8, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but wouldn't a free agent signing have implications for our next years available salary?

Wouldn’t you want to know such things before figuring out a deal for Roy and Aldridge?

Maybe I don’t understand this situation…

by jmark on Jul 8, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

signing a FA means you have no next year's available salary

so it becomes a moot (not mute) point.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 8, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow!

+1 for using “moot” properly. Woot for the moot.

Duct tape makes you smart.

by TTRocks on Jul 9, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the usage of mute when people mean to use moot

is one of my pet peeves, and may well be the most misused word in America. Which is why I had to include the premptive “not mute” part

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 9, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i didn't know people did that

as they don’t even sound the same.

"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

by ratbastird on Jul 9, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

all the time

radio callers do it all the time. in fact, i almost never hear them use “moot”. It’s always “mute”.

Probably also about 75% of posts/comments here on BE (and other sites) use mute instead of moot.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 9, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

compliment vs. complement

greater “then” (That’s the worst. You should have learned the difference when you were about 5 years old.)
“rediculous”
“less” when they mean “fewer”
“websight”
their, they’re, there – what’s so hard about getting those right?
accept vs. except
advice vs. advise
definately – no such word – it’s “definitely”
“peak” one’s interest – uh … it’s “pique”
looser vs. loser

I could go on, but it’s time to say, “Sorry, not Blazer related.” I vent now and then. Misuse of the language is my major pet peeve.

Duct tape makes you smart.

by TTRocks on Jul 9, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you on that.

How hard is is to just listen to your english teacher in elementary school. ;-)

by lrh86 on Jul 9, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i didn't know the "pique" one

i learn something every day

bayless leaves over my dead body

by thomasikehara on Jul 9, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Allllll right!

My work here is done. Giggity.

Duct tape makes you smart.

by TTRocks on Jul 9, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have one.

Giggity needs to be Giggity.

Boom!

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by OdenFanBoy on Jul 10, 2009 4:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

absolutely ZERO affect

Should be effect in this context. Sorry douglast!

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Good luck in the WNBA, Kamyron!

by qrsouther on Jul 11, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HEARSAY I SAY! HEARSAY!

by blazeraider on Jul 8, 2009 10:07 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

wow very surprising

Broy gets maximum no matter what-paul allen is our owner-there is no excuses.

by cavejunctionblazer on Jul 8, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's all good!

The sky isn’t falling, Pritchard isn’t a failure, Roy will be signed for the maximum, and not overhauling our roster could turn into the greatest "bad" summer in Portlands history.

Go Blazers!

Everyone needs to calm down.

by blazeraider on Jul 8, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions   4 recs

I think we’re overreacting. The most likely thing is that KP wants to get any free agent stuff done right now before working on extensions for Roy and LMA. Those guys are signed for another year, they can wait until later this summer, whereas we can’t really afford to wait on any free agent stuff because otherwise anybody good will be gone.

There’s no way Roy doesn’t get the maximum. He’s too important to this team. KP would have to know that fans would call for him to be fired pretty much overnight if he somehow screwed that up and Roy left. He’ll get the 5y/$82m extension, don’t even worry about it.

by shighkin on Jul 8, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

exactly, its not a even a question that he's gonna get 5 years right?

so the question then becomes, why hasn’t the contract been signed yet? not saying the sky is falling, but at the very least people have to wonder what the hold up is

The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave

by chrischa on Jul 8, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Quick has it backwards.

Maybe Roy wants 4, so that he can get another big contract sooner?

Just wild speculation on my part though.

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by T Darkstar on Jul 8, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This would make it more understandable.

I would even consider signing a 3 yr contract if I’m Roy. You have to keep your future in mind.

Hello Dum Dum

by ryryslyry on Jul 8, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was going to say the same thing.

Makes sense for Roy to try to get a second larger contract sooner. Also, they could be fighting over whether that year is automatic or player option. Or even team option. Again, wild speculation but who knows…

by erastus25 on Jul 8, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

especially in light of the cap numbers

Roy’s max contract will start at an amount based on the 2010-11 salary cap, and go up 10.5% yearly from there. It just so happens that the 2010-11 salary cap is expected to be the lowest cap number in a decade, and go down 4-7 million from this upcoming years, hence costing him millions over it’s lifetime. It’s a pretty safe bet to assume that the economy will turn around in the next 3 or 4 years, pushing the cap up substantially, and allowing his new contract to be at a higher amount.

It’s a bit risky of course, given possibility for injury in that timeframe. But the payoff is bigger.

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 8, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This makes a lot of sense

because of the bad economy, salary caps (and max contracts) will be smaller this year, and perhaps next year as well. If I was Roy, I might think it would be better to be in a position to be signing a new contract at 29 and a hopefully improved economy than a new contract at 30 and one extra year of bad-economy salary.

by superfly05 on Jul 8, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Roy should have been signed at 9:01pm last night.

Or whenever it was made possible to do so. The fact that he hasn’t makes me very surprised. It isn’t cool for them to be playing with my emotions like this.

Hello Dum Dum

by ryryslyry on Jul 8, 2009 10:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

William Randolph Quick is the person playing with your emotions, not the Blazers.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Jul 9, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All I can say if this is true,

is don’t play games with your franchise player. Goodwill only goes so far.

"B-Roy is the best shooting guard I have played against"

-Ron Artest

by premthegrem on Jul 8, 2009 10:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This doesn't even pass the smell test.

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Jul 8, 2009 10:21 PM PDT reply actions   4 recs

+1

A three-pointer is not a "triple." A triple is a hit in baseball.
A three-pointer is not a "trey." A trey is either an ESPN sportscaster or something that bad spellers eat cafeteria food on. - Dave on Mar 20, 2009 10:00 PM PDT

by GustyJ on Jul 8, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolute Crap

KP TO OFFER HEDO FIVE YEARS BUT NOT ROY????

by Salem Team Regional on Jul 8, 2009 10:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

well...

Hedo’s 5 would start in 09-10. Roy’s new 5 wouldn’t start until 10-11. Maybe KP wants to save room for the vital “Summer of 2014” free agent class.

;-)

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 8, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

of which

Brandon Roy might very well be the biggest prize.

by sagcat on Jul 10, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have yet to hear a good reason

why we haven’t signed Roy to an extension yet. I get if it was LMA, but Roy should be the easiest negotiation in the world. Should be wrapped up in like 30 seconds.

Hello Dum Dum

by ryryslyry on Jul 8, 2009 10:28 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Who knows?

Chris Paul didn’t sign an extension until July 9th. Deron Williams didn’t until July 18th.

A Roy extension could be announced tomorrow for all we know.

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Jul 8, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point.

I didn’t know it took those players a few days as well. There must be some forces I don’t understand that make it more difficult than I assume.

Hello Dum Dum

by ryryslyry on Jul 8, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

potential snags I can think of off the top of my head:
  1. of years
    if there is an ETO
    if there is a trade kicker
    if there is a no-trade clause (VERY rare, think only Kobe has one)
    how much of contract is bonus money

can’t think of much else

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 8, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

All good points. I need to calm a bit.

My knee jerk reaction was anger over the fact that it hadn’t been done yet. There are particulars that need to be fulfilled.

Hello Dum Dum

by ryryslyry on Jul 8, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

we can’t really say anything without knowing more details. There are tens of millions at stake here for both sides so it only makes sense that they’re both being overly cautious. As long as the extension is signed and both sides are happy before training camp we should all be happy.

by erastus25 on Jul 8, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus the Blazers have been busy with free agents this off season

Now they are tinkering with an offer sheet for Milsap. Although I’m thinking it is hard to believe since Quick broke the story. His credibility is not exactly high with me right now.

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Jul 8, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No trade

Roy isn’t eligible for a no-trade clause. Have to have 8 years in the league and 4 years on the team.

Keep in mind that everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazers Edge.

by pualo on Jul 8, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah, thanks for that correction

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 8, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus you can’t get it from an extension, you have to be a free agent and resign with your previous team.

by danielfarrell on Jul 9, 2009 4:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Van Halen had a clause about M&Ms

No green ones. If the bowl had green M&Ms, they knew other things would go screwy, too.

by LaoTzu on Jul 9, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was actually the brown ones, just so you know

Call Brandon Roy by his real nicknames: The Natural and Roybot. Lets put an end to "B-Roy"

by #7TheNatural on Jul 9, 2009 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think David Lee Roth only ate the green ones, ha ha.

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Jul 9, 2009 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was in his rider

Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash

by HurraKane212 on Jul 9, 2009 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

If he wants the max deal with the max length, it’s a cinch. My guess is Quick has it wrong and ROy is looking for the Melo/LeBron/Wade opt out player option after year 3

Team Bayless - The takeover begins in 2009

by blazeraddict on Jul 8, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nothing about this sounds right

doesn’t sound like KP or Roy. I’m calling bologne on Quick on this one

Woof

by Charles Barkley McLovin on Jul 8, 2009 10:35 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

if this turns out to be BS

I think jason quick takes a serious hit in credibility.

worse than his “underwhelming” article?

The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave

by chrischa on Jul 8, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

much worse

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 8, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

first Greg Oden

then Kevin Prichard…

Quick better watch his back. You can’t get on the bad side of two of the most important pieces of a Blazer organization that has done amazing things over the past few years.

What’s next?? A peice on Brandon Roy being lazy this off season for skipping the Team USA camp

by Docproc on Jul 8, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are assuming...

that Quick had a ton of credibility before this story was penned.

by BVandy on Jul 9, 2009 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It isn't so much credibility

that will take a hit, it’s ACCESS.
He better watch the way he frames things. He just said KP is a loser sad-sack who has made incorrect assumption after incorrect assumption this summer.
It better be true, or Quick is going to see a lot of “No Comment”s from now on.
He might get those even if it IS true. KP’s got a healthy ego, and Paul Allen as well. Not the people to humiliate publicly.

by TheThinWhiteDuke on Jul 9, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

meh

I don’t think it’s in the team’s best interest to blow off the beat reporter from the local paper, even if some negative things have been written about you.

by sagcat on Jul 10, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wait a minute

quick breaks the portland interested in milsap story (which everyone seems to approve of) and he has cred, or at least no one questions the information

quick breaks this story (which obviously makes everyone upset) and he’s a bum? I’m guessing that he is prob getting his information from Broy’s camp as opposed to KP who doesn’t do a whole lot of talking when it comes to negotiations.

The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave

by chrischa on Jul 9, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Paul Milsap story

isn’t a story until there is an actual offer. After this year I don’t believe anything until it happens

No one in the world can beat me at RBI baseball 3(nes).

by svlittle on Jul 9, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

his story wasn't that an offer was made, but that the blazers are preparing an offer

no one here questioned quick saying the blazers are preparing an offer for milsap because they like that news. but wait, quick saying something negative about KP?! oh, he never had credibility anyway. c’mon people, you can’t have it both ways.

quick may be wrong on this one but the guy is more connected to the team and the players than ANYONE else. Plus, he doesn’t have an agenda like players who are angling for more or teams who are angling for less. I would be very surprised to find out that quick just pulled this story out of his arse although I acknowledge that the story may be overblown at this point.

The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave

by chrischa on Jul 9, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BUT!!!

HE WAS RIGHT ABOUT ODEN!!!

Seriously, why do people keep knocking him about that when Oden WAS underwhelming based on expectations projected by blazer brass?

"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

by ratbastird on Jul 9, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't you think that if a two time allstar, former Rookie of the Year hit a bump in the road with contract talks that at least one major sports website would report it.

At least in one of their rumor bins. It seems like they report just about anything. One thing for sure, Jason Quick is going to get a cite on ESPN’s “truths and rumors” when every nba fan is cruising those boards for any kind of news

No one in the world can beat me at RBI baseball 3(nes).

by svlittle on Jul 8, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Anderson Verajao gets a 6 year deal

and KP can’t get a 5 year for Roy??

I don’t buy this at all. I usually like Jason Quick but this makes him seem like an idiot.

by Docproc on Jul 8, 2009 10:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Can you say summer basketball lull?

What gets more readers? Roy signs standard 5 year max deal or negotiations with Roy have snagged.

"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"

by Magnum on Jul 8, 2009 10:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm still waiting for Dave to chime in.

This is simply too stupid for me to comprehend. It HAS to be Quick just giving us BS, or else we’re screwed.

Oden+Roy+Aldridge+Rudy+Bayless=Dynasty. Believe

by OdenRoyLMA on Jul 8, 2009 10:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

speaking of Dave

anyone want to wager he’s tabling his planned post for tonight and writing a new one right now?

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 8, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

the title of this post was originiall "KP trying to shortchange Roy"

but I got attacked for posting this (theres a lot of comments that are no longer here) as if this is all my opinion. the only thing I added to the direct quotes from quick were I can’t think of a good reason for this.

anyway, I changed it to a much softer, gentler title so people who get off my back about trying to freak blazersedge out.

The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave

by chrischa on Jul 9, 2009 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Brandon's on vacation....

or maybe KP said, “Hey Brandon, I’ve really got my hands full with this FA thing right now. Do you mind if we take care of this next week?”

by superfly05 on Jul 8, 2009 10:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Here is why this is not an issue

Brandon has self respect. By my estimation, his is not an ego that needs to be artificially inflated at every turn (e.g., Allen Iverson). His is a healthy ego that will graciously accept the maximum when it is offered.

by jiminut on Jul 8, 2009 10:52 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Probably

But if I was him, my ego might be so healthy I’d want a 5th year player option.

by LaoTzu on Jul 9, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I don’t have any argument if he goes for the best deal for him business-wise. He has earned that right by being a premium player. But as we know he patiently waits for the game winner, he is not about getting the quick score.

by jiminut on Jul 9, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is an issue.

There is no good reason for not signing BRoy automatically to whatever he wants…4 year, 5 year, whatever, just sign it.

by ducklaw on Jul 8, 2009 11:02 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Here is the good reason KP is doing this

Because basketball is a business built on Negotiation and KP wouldnt be a good manager if he didn’t even try to get a better deal whenever he could

Draft Cole Aldrich 2010

by jlarose78 on Jul 8, 2009 11:39 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Could this be used to gain leverage with LA?

I agree with the post above that notes that Roy is the type you can negotiate with. His ego won’t bruise easily.

The same is thought not to be true of LA. Perhaps KP wants to avoid a scenario where LA feels slighted b/c Roy got the max from the get go, and he didn’t. Even if Roy ends up with the max for 5 years, at least this will make it appear as though everyone has to play the game, not just LA.

by DC Blazer on Jul 9, 2009 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

By far the best explanation I've heard.

There is no way that Quick just made this up. He may even have been told to report it.

Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave

Also: COMCAST SUCKS!

by TwoDeep on Jul 9, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

as quick put it,

I just think its bad form to haggle over something like this (if its true). you sign roy to the max $ and years. no negotiation.

The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave

by chrischa on Jul 9, 2009 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong

best deal for the team right now is to make Brandon Roy an extremely happy, long term Portlander. I’m talking long-term revenue, not just the composition of the team.

It is not always good business to try to squeak out a few extra dollars. Especially when you’re seriously discussing signing Millsap as a back up at almost $10M per. You’ve got to maintain credibility and a reputation for fairness among your negotiating partners.

by sagcat on Jul 10, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the collective bargaining agreement changes maybe that would be possible

As for the current CBA, if the Blazers were to drop under the cap they would have to renounce their Bird Rights for Roy, Aldridge, and Oden. In that case they wouldn’t be able to sign those players if it meant going over the cap.

www.freeoden.com Coming soon

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Jul 9, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Max Contract, Max Years for Roy

That is all there is to say. Paul Allen needs to call Prichard and say,
“Hey KP, you must be tired. Why don’t you take a nap? Tomorrow you can wake up and get to work on what to do with the cap space, in the meantime I’ve got my hellicopter picking up Brandon, his family, and his agent. We are going to spend a week on the yaught in Fiji. When we get back Brandon will be locked in. Have a good night”

Oh and KP better lock in Aldridge this summer or else a team like the Knicks are going to be offering LMA a “toxic” contract next summer. And if that happens the Blazers will be forced to sign him to a max contract too, instead of something slightly more reasonable like 12 million a year.

www.freeoden.com Coming soon

by 123_G.O._RipCity on Jul 9, 2009 12:08 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

No negotiating through the press

Quick is the agent’s tool.

I refuse to be Quick’s fool.

by lee3022 on Jul 9, 2009 12:16 AM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Maximum contract the maximum amount of years.

And now. I mean right now KP. Drive over to his house wake up his kids, sit on the front porch, get on a guitar and sing a song, do a dance called the Roybot, stand in his driveway with a stereo over your head playing “In your eyes”, I don’t care get it done. And get it done now.

JAWESOME!!

by TheOdenator on Jul 9, 2009 12:34 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, oh my god, right NOW — if it's not done on Day 2 it is possible, Brandon will hold a terrible grudge!!!

/s

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Jul 9, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To me the point isn't that he wasn't signed on the first day.

What is interesting here is that the Blazers have supposedly tried for a 4 year contract. There is no way Quick is simply fabricating this. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised that he was told to write it by Blazer brass.

A few posts above DCBLAZER has the only plausible explanation that I’ve read.

Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave

Also: COMCAST SUCKS!

by TwoDeep on Jul 9, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, because your beloved Lakers

Haggled all over the place with Kobe. Oh wait… They gave him everything he wanted, including the ability to nix any trade, and gave him two opt out years… Yes what you’re saying makes total sense… /s

JAWESOME!!

by TheOdenator on Jul 9, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was going to provide some info, but I better not.

I’ll just say, not to worry and leave it at that. Geez, is that cryptic or what?

Stay tuned.

Patty Mills - PG of the future. Book it.

by Blazerholic on Jul 9, 2009 1:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

B-roy fan

for a long time and I wouldnt mind if he leaves the NW and finally gets the due from the fans he really deserves by playing for one of the major cities in the country. NY/BOS/LA

by BBG on Jul 9, 2009 1:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Now's the time I wish there were an "unrec"

The thought of Brandon in another jersey makes my stomach turn.

by sagcat on Jul 10, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

maybe

they’re using Roy to soften up the talks with LMA and show him that negotiating wont be personal

by BBG on Jul 9, 2009 1:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

I totally agree. Roy’s ego can handle negotiating. He’s cool with this being a business. It’s less clear that the same is true of LA (if you believe Quick’s article on him from a week or so back).

by DC Blazer on Jul 9, 2009 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only reasons I can imagine - if this report were true: (1) Health concerns, (2) Change of the CBA in 2011/12, and (3) some weird negotiation tactic

However, if Roy’s knees or ankles are done in 4 or 5 years both would be a minor to major disaster for the Blazers. Roy rightly feels he deserves the maximum, in terms of his importance for the team and compared to other major players. And giving him 5 years potentially even pays him LESS over his career. Other stars signed a shorter three year deal specifically because they wanted to get faster to that third contract that really puts the max to the max since the starting point of the new salary is determined by the experience until then (LeBron, Wade, I think Bosh, …). True, 5 years means more guaranteed years for Roy and more security to him in case something goes wrong.

As for the CBA, by all accounts while average salaries will likely get trimmed by eliminating some exceptions to bring the cost for the smaller teams down, and the cap situation then is completely unclear, it is expected that teams will be enabled to pay their proven superstars more than today – and their agents in turn demand that. So it could be again a sacrifice by Roy to not get quicker to that third contract.

In terms of a negotiation tactic, it might be that they want to somehow play the agent of Roy and LMA (the same agency) although that seems to make little sense. If Roy only gets 4 years max, LMA can’t get 5 or something like that. Or saying that if we give LMA the max, we can’t sign Roy to what we want. But it would be weird to potentially piss off both of your major stars by doing that. Easier to get Roy’s contract out of the way, and then try to convince LMA to take say 10% less.

If you want to trade our spare parts for Devin Harris, I have three quarters I would like to trade for your dollar

by Norsktroll on Jul 9, 2009 1:34 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If this is true

KP is starting to really really really lose his edge… come on KP give keep our broy happy

C*mcast sucks!

by Blazermaniac77 on Jul 9, 2009 1:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The transition from playoff team to contender, especially one this young, is extremely difficult.

Add small market to the equation. We are lucky to have a GM like Pritchard.

As for the topic at hand, I think it’s kind of ridiculous to worry. Of course the Blazers would prefer him signing for less, but he will get what he wants. Extensions don’t have to happen right away, it doesn’t mean there’s arguments or threats going on. As mentioned, Paul and Deron extensions were not immediate in their respective year.

With the salary cap situation, all that’s holding it up is likely how they want to do the contract. Roy will get what he feels he should.

by Bskey on Jul 9, 2009 2:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

feels like sensationalist journalism

if this was the case in late october i would be worried

by Yawnie on Jul 9, 2009 4:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Could this have something to do not with Roy

But Aldridge and his negotiations? If we come right out of the chute with the max offer to Roy, the very first minute, how does that play to Aldridge if he doesn’t get an offer that he thinks is palpable. He of course will compare to the Roy negotiations. Probably a stretch, but maybe?

"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.

by blazermaniac32 on Jul 9, 2009 5:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's a business.

If KP did not try to negotiate as favorable a deal for his organization over Roy and LMA as he can, he would not be doing his job.

I would be surprised if Roy does not eventually gets the max, and LMA also, or close to it; however, player contracts in the NBA can get quite involved, and more and more these days are being laden with incentive clauses. All this takes time and energy to work out. Right now, KP’s energy is much more focused on Free Agents (as it should be, the time factor is much more important there than it is on re-signing our guys).

Once we’ve dealt with our capspace issues and trades, his attention will be free to turn to negotiating with Roy and LMA. Deals for both will then follow in short order. Quick is making a mountain out of a molehill here, and trying to generate controversy and readership at a time when everyone is getting tired of waiting to see what the team’s next big move will be.

A reminder to everyone; training camp does open for another 3 1/2 months. There’s no rush on anything right now other than Free Agency. If we’re still waiting on contract extensions for Roy and LMA by then, then maybe this is a legitimate concern. Right now, KP simply has bigger fish to fry.

Portland Trail Blazers, Future World Champions 2010-2021.

by Majikj0n on Jul 9, 2009 6:15 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lol why wouldn't KP haggle? I don't get this

Only in Portland where we pretend that our athletes are something more than commodities.

I’m actually thrilled that KP is trying to be financially prudent.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jul 9, 2009 7:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree, but...

The question is, why does haggling entail KP seeking fewer years? Normally, with a guy like Roy, the team should be the one pushing for a longer contract, not Roy.

by DC Blazer on Jul 9, 2009 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But where's the downside? That he's going to offend Roy? Give me a break

Roy’s not going to be offended. Besides Roy is nearing 30 in four years, reemember he played four years of college hoops, I can’t blame KP for being cautious.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jul 9, 2009 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

next summer you think cleveland is going to "haggle" with Lebron and his agent?

I know Broy isn’t an UFA but he is our Lebron. why is this even an issue? he’s getting the max. you know it, I know it, roy knows it and KP knows it.

if the information is correct, its just bad form to haggle over something like this. its not something to totally freak out about but its very surprising that they are still “negotiating”

The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave

by chrischa on Jul 9, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also LMA @ $11 mil/yr doesn't feel right

I’m not sure he’s worth that much, for sure you’d be paying that much for ‘potential’ and not what he’s produced so far.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jul 9, 2009 8:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If the max is $13.5M (not sure, something like that), LMA will make at least $12M, if not $13.5M...

"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal

by timbo on Jul 9, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If PA can pay Francis $20 million not to play for the Blazers

He had better be willing to pay LA fair market value.

by tominhawaii on Jul 9, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

not to mention dropping 3 to 6 million every year on draft day to move up a couple of picks in the late 1st/early 2nd

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 9, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seeing what other bigs are making, I bet LMAs agent is demanding the max.

It’s all about the market and demand for big bodies. Aldridge could quite a bit next year from teams who miss out on the big name guys.

by Bskey on Jul 9, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

doesn't feel right, but he'll get at least that

Bargnani getting 10 mil helped LMA’s argument quite a bit, I’m sure.

by jksnake99 on Jul 9, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Bargnani signing is insane

And yeah I agree LMA will probably get it, just saying that in a sane world there is no way that LMA deserves 11 mil/year+ based on what he’s produced so far.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jul 9, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

with his ego,

you HAVE to pay him a solid amount more than milsap

The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave

by chrischa on Jul 9, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

10 million to turkey glue...

If turkey is worth 10, LMA is DEFINITELY worth $11.

I’m a firm believer that Turkey isn’t worth $10, but someone decided he was and that sets the value for others. toronto’s other signing of AB was also dumb, but again… that sets the value. Sucky players are now valued at $10 mil. Based on that, good players should clearly be making more.

I’d say LMA has earned the $10 mil ranged. His potential is $11 mil, but you’re correct that’s potential.

I’d say Turkey glue is better valued at $5-$8 mil. Clearly i’m wrong as the market decides.

"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

by ratbastird on Jul 9, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I stand corrected if Max is 13.5mil

That being the case LA has earned 11-12ish and higher is based on potential.

"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

by ratbastird on Jul 9, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

max won't be known for next year.

cp3/dwill are getting 13.5 to start, based on the 2009 BRI figure. If next year’s goes down as much as predicted, a Roy or LMA max could start somewhere in the 12.75 to 13 range

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 9, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well I hate being the wet blanket...

but with Roys knee and heel problems it makes sense for the Blazers to go 4 instead of 5. But I still think you give him 5… it is not my money anyway.

by Escrote on Jul 9, 2009 8:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

In four years Roy will be 29 and we'll have a lot better idea how far he can really take a team

I’m with most of you that Roy seserves 5 but I’m not going to fly off the handle like Jason Quick and accuse the Blazers of bad form.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jul 9, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed.

I know Roy can play through pain and he is a warrior. I just don’t get why the Blazers play him so much. Rudy wants and needs more minutes. Roy was so worn out looking in the Houston series. Seems like an easy solution. Maybe we would of lost 2-5 (possibly more?) games last year if Roy averaged 6 less minutes a game but, we couldn’t have done any worse than we did (getting bounced out in the 1st round).

by Escrote on Jul 9, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

in a lot of games last year, we pretty much sucked when roy was out of the game

even a tired roy was better than no roy. a 5 game swing could put you from home court advantage to out of the playoffs in a tight year like last season. Still, you’re prob right that nate could be a little more conservative with his minutes throughout the season

The Blazers as a whole are far more like my wife than like me in the sense of their physicality on defense.
-Dave

by chrischa on Jul 9, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK everyone please remember

Brandon Roy has an agent.

Broadly speaking agents are evil little weasels that lie constantly and are out to serve their clients (and therefore their own) best interests regardless of the detriment to the team. Roy’s agent is probably doing his job and playing hardball, trying to get every favorable outcome possible including signing bonuses, incentives, the max, etos, whatever. KP is a GM, GM’s are evil little weasels who lie constantly and are out to pay their players as little as possible while retaining their services and attracting more talent.

Roy is likely sitting back, riding his bike, relaxing, playing with his kids. His agent is likely the one holding things up. It’s just business. No big deal.

Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash

by HurraKane212 on Jul 9, 2009 8:38 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Best comment of the thread

I would’ve been shocked if all parties HAD come to an agreement by now.

It’s a complicated situation, especially since both Brandon and LaMarcus share the same evil agent weasel, and negotiating two (related) contracts with the Blazers at the same time makes things especially dicy, even for evil little weasels. And KP’s right hand weasel, Tom Penn, is capable of making things more nuanced than we can imagine — we look up into the sky and see blue; he looks up and sees hundreds of different shades of blue. I wouldn’t be surprised if both end up with sophisticated agreements. Those things take time to iron out.

by Corvid on Jul 9, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to take this with a grain of salt....

and assume that this isn’t 100% true. But seriously, he’s a 2 time all-star, voted to the 2nd All NBA team, team leader, top 10 player in the NBA, franchise player, the city loves him—-he deserves 5 years, max, no matter how bad his knees are.

by jenstcy on Jul 9, 2009 9:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

lets raise money

to pay for brandon’s fifth year

by elconquistador on Jul 9, 2009 9:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure...

the people of Portland would be able to raise it.

by jenstcy on Jul 9, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll hold a bake sale!

"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green

by antediluvian on Jul 9, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

we already do pay it

everyone always seems to forget that part. =-)

by sagcat on Jul 10, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

KP should know

if he doesnt keep roy his head will be chopped off after we burn down the rose garden.

by JRWriter on Jul 9, 2009 9:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

well, we could do both at once

Maybe tie him to a stake along the wall…

by sagcat on Jul 10, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dogs and cats sleeping together

I think the readership of Blazersedge would personally go door-to-door to raise money for such a noble cause as Brandon’s fifth year.

These are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. -Groucho Marx

by RDreamer on Jul 9, 2009 9:45 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

In terms of the team's play, that's the first move to tee me off.

BRoy is as deserving of a max contract as any player in the league. He is the franchise. Somebody should remind KP what side his bread is buttered on.

by Benjamanic on Jul 9, 2009 10:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmm

Read the Quick article, and that’s pretty harsh.

Personally I’m thankful that the blazers have been thwarted so far. I think the trades mentioned (taken as a one move event and nothing complex) would have been poison to portland.

I could live with Milsap. it would mean Joel/Travis would be out the door somehow, but that could work for me.

I could live with Hinrich. I don’t know that it’s for the best, but it is an upgrade.

These other conversations just make me cringe and wonder what the front office knows that we don’t, or if they suddenly snagged some stupid water.

"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

by ratbastird on Jul 9, 2009 10:22 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

are you kidding me?

This is a no brainer, not one to even ponder for a moment. You MAX OUT Brnadon with out hesitation adn say thank you in the process. This is the face of our frnachise and the future of it as well. GET THIS DONE WITH AN APPOLOGY FOR JERKING HIM AROUND!

by pdxnook on Jul 9, 2009 10:41 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Who says Brandon didn’t say “don’t worry about me right now, you guys get the trade/free agent stuff done and then we’ll talk”? Kobe just did the same thing with the L*kers to give their GM time to work on their free agents.

"When Bellotti attempted to shake the hand of Oklahoma State quarterback Zac Robinson after the game, Robinson offered his left hand. His right was swollen and battered from the Ducks' defense."

by MarineCorpsDuck on Jul 9, 2009 11:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fleming from HoopsWorld on this:

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=13248

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 9, 2009 11:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

geez you guys are nervous

Roy has been busy that’s all. It will be announced by Monday at the latest.

Not sure what the holdup is with LA but they have actual dollar amounts to negotiate.

by ericande on Jul 9, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Do you give Brandon Roy whatever he wants?

yes, yes you do.

The Bedger formally known as ????????

by Rudiculous on Jul 9, 2009 1:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is stupid

Reading stories like this make me want to swear off all Blazer talk from now until training camp. There is no freakin’ way that KP is going to give BRoy any less than what he wants (whether it is four years or five years).

I think that there are a lot of mouth breathers reporters out there that are talking out of their *sses right now. “It’s 9:01 am!!!! He hasn’t signed a max deal yet!!!!! Why is KP being so stupid!?!?! Doesn’t he realize that Roy is a perennial all-star!?!?!?”

Maybe Roy is on vacation. Maybe they are trying to figure out whether a four year deal or a five year deal makes more sense. Maybe they want to announce both signings at the same time, but they can’t because they haven’t nailed down LMA’s contract yet. Who knows? Certainly not us, and even though Quick has some good scoops, he has been wrong enough to make me think that he is speculating, and he doesn’t know what is really going on either.

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Jul 9, 2009 7:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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