a three way trade utah chicago andd portland

by topher223 on Jul 7, 2009 9:16 PM PDT

im not sure if we can do much better then this. if we want to upgrade at pg and sf in one trade

heres the deal

utah gets chicago gets portland gets

t .outlaw c. boozer k. hinrich

j.noha s. blake j. salmons

i feel it woks out fairly for all teams utah gets cap space chicago gets an allstar and portland upgrades both the pg and sf.

so do you guys think it would happen or even work ?

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i'd do it just to see sloan get in a fist fight with noah and travis

(that means it will never happen on utah’s end)

i didn’t even finish reading the rest of the trade.

dinasour type of guys choir boys

by mittsabishy on Jul 7, 2009 9:18 PM PDT reply actions

Yeah, Sloan definitely would not get along with Noah

He got pissed when Krylenko Fesenko just dyed his hair blond.

by ninjasocks on Jul 7, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm not sure that they'd give up Noah and Salmons and Hinrich

That sorta guts their roster a bit.

by ninjasocks on Jul 7, 2009 9:21 PM PDT reply actions

yeah sounds steep, but it always seems like a lot goes for an all star in his prime.

by dario argento on Jul 7, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Utah was ready to let Boozer walk a few weeks ago.

At this point, they just want cap relief and crumbs. Knowing that, Chicago isn’t going to trade 2 starters and their 6th man for a guy that just came off a 37-game season.

by ninjasocks on Jul 8, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions

Utah and Chicago would probably pass

Chicago would pass unless Boozer were to sign to a reasonable multi-year deal.(with injuries he’s add, attitude questions and him being gone in 2010 they probably would be scared to pull the trigger). They are also giving up a lot for a gamble that may not put them over the top.

Unless money is desparate in Utah, they’re giving away an allstar for two bench players(albeit near starters).

If they are shopping Boozer they are going to want to lock up a starter at the 3 or 2. If we gave them Rudy instead of Trout, maybe…. but I doubt it still.

by boppitywop on Jul 7, 2009 9:23 PM PDT reply actions

Agreed

Hinrich, Salmons and Noah is too much to give up for Boozer and Blake.

by Storyteller on Jul 7, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions

Unless I'm mistaken

money is desperate in Utah. AK47 is getting huge money and they need to resign a bunch of key players. To compound the problem, they get the knicks first pick next year which will probably be a lottery pick. That means an automatic 3-6 million dollar contract.

by jstamp26 on Jul 8, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions

A more realistic option

Is Utah takes Picks in return and nothing else after they sign Milsap they will be way over the Cap

Draft Cole Aldrich 2010

by jlarose78 on Jul 7, 2009 9:25 PM PDT reply actions

Makes sense

for everyone but utah. i know they dont really want boozer but i think they could do better than outlaw and noah.

by axel360 on Jul 7, 2009 9:26 PM PDT reply actions

They expected Boozer to walk this summer

They got kinda screwed when he ended up opting in.

by ninjasocks on Jul 7, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Right

Trading Boozer essentially gets them the ability to sign Millsap plus whatever comes back in trade.

by Storyteller on Jul 7, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions

I put up the idea yesterday

POR sends Steve Blake to CHI
POR receives Kirk Hinrich

UTA sends Carlos Boozer to CHI
UTA receives Tyrus Thomas

CHI sends Kirk Hinrich to POR and Tyrus Thomas to UTA
CHI receives Carlos Boozer

I included those two players from Chicago since they are the ones most mentioned as trade bait. Utah gets salary relief plus Tyrus Thomas to play backup PF (and Thomas also serves as a possible expiring contract if they don’t want him beyond this season). And Portland gets their upgrade at PG.

by Storyteller on Jul 7, 2009 9:54 PM PDT reply actions

i can't imagine sloan wanting thomas either, but this trade is definitely more likely than any involving salmons

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by Zaron5551 on Jul 7, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Could the Blazers just send cap-space and a draft pick?

So Utah moves Boozer and only gets cap-space in return, then uses the cap-space to sign Millsap

(Or, think of it this way)

The Blazer sign an offer sheet to MIllsap for 7.7mil (first year salary+escalators) the Jazz match it, then execute the 3-way deal with Boozer going to Chicago and Hinrich coming to Portland?

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Jul 7, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions

No

Not enough cap room to take in Hinrich and send nothing out.

by Storyteller on Jul 7, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions

so Portland would have to send out a contract

of at least the difference of 9,500,000 – 7,700,000 = 1,800,000

(unless KP decides to renounce Koponen, which would remove another 824K)

So, if Portland sent Blake and his 4 mil to Utah, they’d only have to use around 5.5 mil of the capspace, etc

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Jul 7, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions

I trust your word over RealGM's trade checker - but why is Trade Checker off?

Trade Checker says we can accept Hinrich without giving anything back

by Mad Matt the Road Warrior on Jul 8, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Would Chicago then turn around and sign Boozer to an extension? (I'm assuming so, since they don't want to rent him for a year)

Or would that ruin their opportunity to clear cap space for 2010?

by Furious Styles on Jul 7, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions

they would want to, but it wouldn't suprise me to see Boozer try it out free agency next year

All that money that teams will be throwing around, that’s why Boozer didn’t opt out this year imo

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by Zaron5551 on Jul 7, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions

I doubt it

They’d probably just let his contract expire, the freed-up cap-space may be enough for them to pursue DWade

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by two4larue on Jul 7, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Offering a reasonable extension to Boozer

(starting at $10-11 million) would still leave them with a lot of cap room. If Salmons opts out as expected, they’d have enough for Wade.

by Storyteller on Jul 7, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Thanks

I thought they would come up short of 17 mil for Wade unless they can move Deng’s contract

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by two4larue on Jul 7, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions

It all depends on Salmons

Most Chicago fans (at least the ones on the boards that I’ve seen) expect him to opt out, but if he doesn’t, they have a lot of cap room but probably not enough to get Wade (this is all assuming Boozer gets a reasonable extension).

by Storyteller on Jul 7, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions

They'd be crazy to sign Boozer to a long-term extension without seeing if he can stay healthy for a season.

They’ll have his Bird rights and be in the driver seat to re-sign him if they choose. Or they renounce him and go after whichever FA they choose (Bosh, Wade…)

by 52therim on Jul 8, 2009 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions

my thoughts

as well

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Jul 8, 2009 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions

how about

boozer to chicago
hinrich to portland
blake to utah
roberson to either (who can be waived by 7/10 costing no money)

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 7, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Good idea

But in order to take in both Boozer and Blake, Chicago has to send out $12.979 in salary.

by Storyteller on Jul 8, 2009 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions

I posted Blake to Utah, not Chicago

I believe this one would work as I wrote it

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 8, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions

Right you are

I’ve got ‘Blake to Chicago’ on the brain apparently….

by Storyteller on Jul 8, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions

that would leave Chicago a little thin at the guard position and still too deep on the front court

not sure they want to lose Hinrich and Gordon from their backcourt with no replacements

by Matt Daddy on Jul 8, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions

they just signed another guard

How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009

by douglast on Jul 8, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions

+92

"He wanted to come to a winner, Mrs. Turk wanted to go shopping….."
- Upper Left Corner

by 92wastheyear on Jul 8, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions

Chicago

Boozer is not for them, in my opinion. Nor any big free agent this year.

Here is there plan in my eyes:

Wait for some freak of nature Pau Gasol/Chauncey Billups trade to fall into their laps

Make moves for expiring contracts in 2010 so they can be a player for Dwayne Wade, to bring him back home to pair probably the most disgusting Back Court in the NBA of Rose/Wade.

Patience :)

by TheGreatDane17 on Jul 7, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions

Wouldn’t Boozer fit your second option?

MLB2PDX!!! (someday...)

by The Cactus Leaguer on Jul 7, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions

boozer fits both, he's an expiring contract and kirk for boozer is nearly pau for kwame/marc gasol

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by Zaron5551 on Jul 7, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Chicago has been giving lip service to signing a scoring PF for years.

by 52therim on Jul 8, 2009 12:18 AM PDT up reply actions

Salmons?

John Salmons has a very poor attitude that would conflict with the “culture” aspect of our team. He sulks when he doesn’t start or get enough shots. That is not the type of player that KP, Nate McMillan, or Paul Allen would add. That kinda shoots this version down.

by kajuayn on Jul 7, 2009 10:53 PM PDT reply actions

I doubt Salmons is part of any deal.

by 52therim on Jul 8, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions

I think it could work, but i’d expect Utah to want a little something in return if they can get it. Yes, they want cap relief, but the Blazers are full of talented young players with relatively cheap and/or expiring contracts. I’d be surprised if a 3-way deal sending Boozer to the Bulls and Hinrich to the Blazers didn’t also send at least one of our somewhat attractive young guns such as Batum, Rudy, or maybe even Bayless and probably either a Blake or Outlaw expiring contract to the Jazz. None of the first three have expiring contracts but they’d all come with at least pretty good value for the buck which helps in the long run towards fielding as much talent for as little $ as possible (no GM wants to put together a garbage team just to save money, even if they are directly ordered to cut costs they still all want to win as many games as possible while doing it). Portland would be better off trading Rudy if they had to pick one of the three just because he seems the most expendable as he’s yet to prove he can consistently produce at any position outside of SG, on a team with an all-star SG ahead of him. I’m not sure what the Jazz would want, they have a very good PG now and decent wing players. Would they want more of a scoring punch on the wing in Rudy, a very good perimeter defender and probably the player with the most potential in Batum, or a PG/SG hybrid in Bayless that could probably provide decent minutes at both positions now or in the near future? I’m almost sure they’d want one of them, my guess is if there were talks going on, the Jazz would be trying to wrestle Batum from Portland in the deal above all else.

by Bryan72076 on Jul 8, 2009 10:52 AM PDT reply actions