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Andre Miller, Ramon Sessions, or Steve Blake

Let's look at a few basic stats for each player (last 20 games):

Andre Miller 16.2 Pts/game, 5 Reb/game, 6.2 Assists/game, 2.6 Turnovers/game

Ramon Sessions  13.4 Pts/game, 4.4 Reb/game, 8.2 Assists/game, 2.3 Turnovers/game

Steve Blake  11.6 Pts/game, 2.9 Reb/game, 5.5 Assists/game, 1.7 Turnovers/game

 

Obviously, you can often make numbers say whatever you want them to but these numbers speak to me. I can understand people who are of the opinion that Blake is a better fit next to Roy than Miller or Sessions. I can understand the opinion that Hinrich is a better option next to Roy than Miller or Sessions. Perimeter shooting ability is a nice skill to posssess. However, I completely fail to understand people who think Miller is the right option. Sessions and Miller possess nearly the identical skill set currently. Miller is at an age that his skills will almost certainly decline over the next few years. Sessions is at an age that his skill set should improve noticeably AND THEY ARE VIRTUALLY THE SAME PLAYER RIGHT NOW! The Bucks have the right to match any offer to Sessions, but they also drafted a PG with their pick at #10. I'm not sure what their breaking point for matching an offer is, but they are very unlikely to match an offer large enough to land Andre Miller. Jason Kidd is off our list now (reportedly has come to terms with the Mavs). Can we cross Miller off the list also?

Assuming Harris is unavailable, our options at PG should be Hinrich, Sessions or Blake. It seems the general consensus is that a decision to go with Blake is a decision to hope that Bayless develops... or a decision to hope that the rest of the team develops enough (ie Oden) that having an "adequate PG" is good enough. I've also read how Sessions would duplicate Bayless' skills. Bayless' strength may be penetrating to the basket, but to those people who think Sessions duplicates Bayless... please looks at Sessions stats again. I won't bother to show the gory details of Bayless' stats over the last 20 games. I have a lot of faith in Bayless. If it turns out we get Sessions and Bayless develops then we'll have the fortunate problem of having 2 "starting quality" PGs. I'm afraid if we go with Blake and Bayless and Bayless doesn't develop as we hope, we'll end up with 2 "backup quality" PGs. That would be a shame!

Can somebody please make a case for Miller that makes sense? I honestly think it can be done. It will probably emphasize experience and readiness to burst open that title window. I doubt I'll agree with it, but at least maybe I'll understand better. 

Poll
Can you make a case for Andre Miller?
Go get Miller, he's available and fits our biggest need.
10 votes
If a trade can't be made, Miller is the best option available.
7 votes
Sign Ramon Sessions to an offer sheet, if the Bucks match we'll look to trade or stand pat.
75 votes
If a trade can't be made, Sessions should be the target.
37 votes
If a trade can't be made, Blake is our guy until Bayless is ready.
25 votes
Why aren't we talking about Mike Bibby?
13 votes
Play Roy more at PG! Why are we so worried about PG?
4 votes
Hang up the phone KP. We've got Steve Blake.
23 votes
If we don't make a trade, I'm taking my ball and going home.
3 votes

197 votes | Poll has closed

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If the Blazer’s were really down on their pg’s they would have packaged some players for a trade with Minnesota.

I really think the Blazer management is only looking to add a veteran to appease Nate. Otherwise they’re not going to make a deal that doesn’t put them in a position in the next few years of landing a HOF player. Remember, the rule of thumb is two HOF’s per world champion team.

by 7677maniac on Jul 5, 2009 11:21 PM PDT reply actions  

What about Kirk?

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Trade for Gerald Wallace!!

by TyboOSU on Jul 6, 2009 3:47 AM PDT reply actions  

kirk?!

kirk is not that good not even close to blake hes not worth the moeny

by These Refs Suck on Jul 6, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty gung-ho on Sessions, even with his whacktacular J

Kid can play basketball. Silly handle. Dribble drive. Dish. Eyes for miles.

by Marvin100 on Jul 6, 2009 5:42 AM PDT reply actions  

I've been skepical on Sessions

But, I’m coming around. Miller is looking less and less like what we need. I think your point about the best-case scenario being two starting PGs in Bayless and Sessions and worst-case scenario of two backup PGs in Blake and Bayless is well taken.

by fetopher on Jul 6, 2009 12:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Sessions Assist Stats Are Wrong

I voted Sessions, but his stats for assists are wrong, as he never averaged 8.2 assists for a season, much less for his career. In fact, his assist numbers dropped this year from 7.5 to 5.7. Miller would be nice were he not too old and likely to be WAY more expensive.

I like Sessions, because I believe the Blazers could get him and Bass, while likely only giving up Outlaw in an unbalanced trade for one if necessary, and would make this a perfect summer, IMO.

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by blazer91 on Jul 6, 2009 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

If you read the post carefully you will see that these are stats for the last 20 games

I’m not trying to do funny math with these numbers, but Sessions got more steady minutes over the last 20 games and had a little experience under his belt. If you look at the season numbers and consider per 40 stats, it would suggest exactly what I posted here. Sessions is virtually the same player statistically (shot lower 3 pt % but neither guys should be shooting 3’s) as Miller is now with obviously more upside.

by 52therim on Jul 6, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sessions as starting guard . . .

I understand using the last twenty games as it may show more consistent stats for all three players, but I really feel the best way to get an understanding is too look at Sessions’ stats when he got time. As a starting guard, Sessions played 38 games and averaged 15.2 ppg, 7.5 assists, 4.1 rebs, and 1.3 steals. Those are great stats for a player in his first full year in the league. This guy is already good and he will only get better. He really seems like he’d be a nice fit to grow with this Blazer team.

by mballer225 on Jul 6, 2009 6:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I really hope Sessions is the move we make with the cap room

and I hope that Bass falls in there as well. It doesn’t serve to just add more time on to the roster, but it opens up a world of potential for trades. If we have every postion with an adequate starter, and many with back-ups who could be starters, it just givves us the freedom to look over any and all offers to consolodate our talent. Bring on the 8th!!!

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by einman77 on Jul 7, 2009 7:58 PM PDT reply actions  

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