Chris Paul to the Blazers! It could happen...
by Oregon521 on Jul 5, 2009 10:03 PM PDT
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Three Team Trade (Portland Trail Blazers, New Orleans Hornets, Oklahoma City Thunder)
1. Blazers Sign David Lee 5 years 50 million - front loaded so that New York won't match.
2. Blazers then Packages Travis Outlaw, J.Bayless, 3 million dollars, and a future first round pick to New Orleans
3. Oklahoma Thunder then Packages Jeff Green and James Harden to New Orleans
3. New Orleans Trades James Posey, and Tyson Chandler (who the thunder nearly had at the trade deadline but backed out of the trade due to health concerns which now seem not to be a concern) to the Thunder
4. New Orleans then Trades Chris Paul to the Portland Trail Blazers
Blazers Trades: David Lee, Travis Outlaw, J.Bayless, 3 million Dollars, 2010 first round pick
Blazers Receives: Chris Paul
Oklahoma Trades: Jeff Green and James Harden
Oklahoma Receives: David Lee, Tyson Chandler, James Posey
New Orleans Trades: Chris Paul, Tyson Chandler, James Posey
New Orleans Receives: James Harden, J. Bayless, Travis Outlaw, Jeff Green, Trail Blazer's 2010 first round pick, and 3 million dollars
Trail Blazers 2009 Rotation:
Chris Paul/Steve Blake
Brandon Roy/Rudy Fernandez
Batum/Webster
Aldridge/(fa pick up Bass?)/ Pendegraph / Cunningham
Oden/the Pryz
New Orleans Gets out of Contracts (approximately 40 mil Chandler - 25 mil Posey) - loses their elite PG in Paul, but also replenish on young inexpensive talent while retaining the services of All Star David West. Starting Lineup would feature: Bayless, Harden, Peja, West, and Ely. They will be able to Address center in 2010 Draft., while bringing in Jeff Green.
Oklahoma instantly become a playoff team with a starting five of: Russell Westbrook, Kevin Durant, James Posey, David Lee, Tyson Chandler and will bring some much needed interest to the team.
And well the blazers get Paul =)
What do you think? Who does not want to make this trade? Who does?
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Chris Paul is not going anywhere under any circumstances
by jksnake99 on Jul 5, 2009 10:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He will eventually
probably not this summer though
by axel360 on Jul 5, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he will visit France in the off-season
Otherwise, it is the French Quarter for him for years to come.
by LaoTzu on Jul 6, 2009 1:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
now way no makes that trade
lose cp and lose the franchise – he is everything to them! They are left with a lottery team; if they were selling and moving out of town then maybe.
entering the window of opportunity!
by 77again on Jul 5, 2009 10:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Based on contracts that are going into next season, the New Orleans Hornets have a team payroll of $77.5 million, which is highest in the league. According to a league source, this is the first time the Hornets have had the league's highest pay
payroll of $77.5 million, which is highest in the league. According to a league source, this is the first time the Hornets have had the league’s highest payroll.
The team is bleeding money and needs to make a move that will get them through the rough times – CP3 will be due a large extension soon and they will still be stuck with Chandler, West’s, and Peja’s contracts. This move will bring them immediate cap relief, while also locking them into several players with rookie contracts. The fans will not be happy. But what is worse, losing your star, or potentially your team?
http://blog.nola.com/hornetsbeat/2009/06/new_orleans_could_spend_up_to.html
by Oregon521 on Jul 5, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You seem to underestimate the loss of money they would endure
The fans would have absolutely no reason to go to the games.
My avatar is 3 years into the future for sure...
by Taskmaster on Jul 5, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
NBA finances are about more than just salaries and player performance.
by ninjasocks on Jul 5, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
losing their star would lose far more millions in empty seats than saving 10-20 million in cap space.
by dario argento on Jul 5, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed but NO was not breaking any attendance records last year.
by Oregon521 on Jul 6, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
New Orleans had a higher attendance rate last season
Than Chicago, New York, Orlando, Cleveland, San Antonio, Houston, Miami, Toronto, Denver……
But you’re right, they don’t have fans.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 6, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually
Utah will be above that 77.5 million number, once they match an offer for Milsap, as will the Lakers, once they add in Artest’s cash. I would have to check payrolls to see about other teams, like the notoriously overspending NY Knicks, to see if there are more, but I am guessing their might be. That blogger didn’t check his facts I think.
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by usmcr3049 on Jul 6, 2009 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CPs
extension is already part of their budget
They still have a chance to move Chandler to get under the luxury tax
dreams of Chris Paul moving are just that, dreams.
Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.
I will talk about DeJuan Blair no more forever
by jonestr on Jul 6, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed, remember what the Blazers did to come back from 15 down in the 4th in NO when Paul went down?
You Don’t Trade a CP.
by LaoTzu on Jul 6, 2009 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OKC
Even before NO comes into the picture, this trade makes no sense for OKC. If they wanted David Lee, wouldn’t they just offer him a contract? They have more cap space than we do. What kind of GM trades away his second best player in order to acquire a player he could have gotten without giving up anyone (plus a player he already traded for without giving up anything of worth before backing out)? I’m not even sure Isaiah Thomas ever pulled off something like this.
by Harry Manback on Jul 6, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep dreaming, spaceman...
See if you can squeeze Lebron in there too.
An Oregonian in Texas.
by NoiseMekanik on Jul 5, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why don't you want Chris Paul on our team?
He’s a pretty good player. Better than Steve Blake even (though who has the assist record for a quarter? Paul can’t be THAT good if he doesn’t hold that record).
Nate will start Blake for the year or two, and then Paul can take over as Blake winds down.
Mortimer
by Mortimer on Jul 6, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too many problems with this post
Chris Paul to Blazers only for Roy. That is all.
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jul 5, 2009 10:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You left out LMA and cash
Right?
"Life is a meaningless sequence of events in between Blazer championships"
by broggerboy19 on Jul 5, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And filler not LMA and cash Roy is better then that
IM a blazer fan no time to worry about other teams value of their players anyway.
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jul 5, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Roy traded to the Borneo Bombers for a bundle of muddy sticks!!!!
It could happen.
by pxilpooshr on Jul 5, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Great deal for Borneo
Those sticks are WAY overpaid, but it was the only way to match salaries.
M.
by Mortimer on Jul 6, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can not sign a FA
then Trade him before Dec 15th. So if this trade was going to work that is the first hurdle. Second while NO is cash strapped, trading CP3 is their last option, and by last I mean they trade everyone but him before they trade him. Third, if they were to trade him, they are not goint to take 4 role players in return, they will get at least 1 all-star, and not some “future all-star” but a current one. For example if they were talking to Portland they would want Brandon Roy, no one less than. Good idea, but it just won’t work.
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by usmcr3049 on Jul 5, 2009 10:16 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Can't a player be traded after he is signed to a free agent contract
So long as it is agreed upon before the contract signing?
by Oregon521 on Jul 5, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
You are correct. If it is part of the initial deal and the FA is aware of it you can do a sign and trade with them without having to wait until 12/15.
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by GonzoFan on Jul 5, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely NOT
See Larry Coon’s NBA Salary Cap FAQ @ www.cbafaq.com
It is copyrighted so I won’t reproduce it here, but see
76. … Under no circumstances can a team sign and then trade another team’s free agent.
80. … cannot be traded until three months … or December 15th … whichever is later.
Mike Barrett is responsible (most recently) for this erroneous idea.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jul 6, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How does Mike Barrett have a job as a television play-by-play announcer for a NBA team ...
when poor ol’ Kevin Calabro is stuck calling games for the Seattle Sounders FC of all things?
While fans of the Portland Trail Blazers are spoiled in many ways, they are unfortunately stuck with a horrid announcing crew with Barrett, Mike Rice, Brian Wheeler, and Antonio Harvey.
Here, by the way, is my dream announcing crew.
Television Play-By-Play Man: Kevin Calabro
Television Color Commentator: Steve “Snapper” Jones
Radio Play-By-Play Man: Jim Durham
Radio Color Commentator: Dr. Jack Ramsay
Well, that’s that.
by AK1984 on Jul 6, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Barrett's voice
and the level of description he uses to announce the game (anyone that remembers the disaster when the great Bill Schonely tried to switch from radio to TV knows what I mean), but his constant harping about the referee’s did me in last year. I don’t care if the announcers are homers (I expect them to be) but it is beyond annoying for Barrett to announce that Brandon is fouled on every drive he makes. By the end of last year I could hardly stand to keep the sound on anymore. Rice is so awful he has become strangely entertaining to a lot of fans. Anyway, neither of them even remotely compares in badness to Tony Luftman at half time. I simply refuse to listen to him anymore and thanks to a DVR always skip the half time show or find something else to do at half time.
by BlazerFanSince1970 on Jul 6, 2009 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Homerism in announcing works for some play-by-play guys, with Chuck Swirsky ...
being a prime example. You, however, are absolutely right that Mike Barrett comes off at times like a whiny, entitled brat, while Brian Wheeler occasoinally sounds as if he’s spasming uncontrollably and about have a heart attack over the airwaves.
by AK1984 on Jul 6, 2009 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate the way that Barrett nearly goes into cardiac arrest every time Blake hits a three.
by Cablinasian on Jul 6, 2009 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His abilities as an announcer
have nothing to do with this discussion, unless you want to say his “lack of knowledge” is why you don’t like him as an announcer. Although on his blog he said he confirmed this idea with a team source or something to that affect, which really would mean he tried to do his homework, it is the person he asked that was uneducated in the cap, he was just a fool to believe him.
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by usmcr3049 on Jul 6, 2009 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Calabro is on ESPN
And Snapper Jones is amazing. I loved when he used to fight with Bill Walton when they worked at NBA on NBC when Bill had his moments of grandiose idiocy.
The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 6, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about the Sonics return to Seattle, too?
About as likely, sad to say.
by MiledAnimal on Jul 6, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if NO did want to trade CP3
They could get a ton more than James Harden, J. Bayless, Travis Outlaw, Jeff Green, the Trail Blazer’s 2010 first round pick (which would be like ~24), and 3 million dollars.
Chris Paul is the absolute last player they would trade. Never ever ever ever going to happen.
by Furious Styles on Jul 5, 2009 10:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I want he last 3 minutes of my life back.
How about some awesome trades to make this happen?
Oden/Howard
Aldridge/Nowitzki
Batum/LBJ
Roy/Wade
Blake/Paul
Those listed second will be the reserves, obviously, and will be lucky to see any playing time.
An Oregonian in Texas.
by NoiseMekanik on Jul 5, 2009 10:24 PM PDT reply actions 7 recs
You win this thread
Drop the mike, it’s ovah.
by ninjasocks on Jul 5, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you think it has run through KP's mind as to how in the world he could get Chris Paul?
by Oregon521 on Jul 5, 2009 10:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It certainly has
And it is as simple as going back in time and drafting him in… what was it 2004? That’s only five years! Not any more difficult than trading for him now.
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by Sarbonis on Jul 5, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1.21 gigawatts? 1.21 gigawatts? Great Scott!
It was actually 2005. This was my first photo post after 2 years of Bedging.
Gimmicks don't make dynasties
by WarEaglePDX on Jul 6, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
hahah any back to the future pic gets an auto rec from me
Who's your Twaddy?
by prezofdeath on Jul 6, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if kp seriously lost sleep about how he could acquire cp3
than i feel sorry for him.
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by Philthyanimal on Jul 6, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be great to get Chris Paul
and it would also be great to end povery, war, and hunger.
by PoliSam on Jul 5, 2009 10:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Durant is going to need an extension soon
maybe thunder want to save money and trade him to us for 39 second round picks (non-guaranteed contracts), pendergraph (hustle guy), freeland (manageable contract), $3 million, and maybe a Starbucks card. Deal or no deal?
by axel360 on Jul 5, 2009 10:37 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
We could throw in a free cheese pizza too.
My avatar is 3 years into the future for sure...
by Taskmaster on Jul 5, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know we're all suffering CP3 trade suggestion fatigue
but Oregon521 put a lot of thought into his trade proposal and deserves more respect than y’all are giving him. I’m not saying it’s not stale cheese, of course. Now here’s my idea: A few of us BEdgers sneak into Area 51 and locate the time machine that I’ve read in a reliable tabloid was captured by aliens from the future. We turn the dial back to June, 2005 and press GO. Once there, we kidnap John Nash and hide him in Isiah Thomas’ Executive of the Year trophy room until after the draft, forcing Paul Allen to turn to Kevin Pritchard for draft-day guidance. KP picks CP3, and D. Stern begins ordering Larry O’Brien trophies for the Blazers for the next dozen years.
by MiledAnimal on Jul 5, 2009 10:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Problem is
If we get CP3, we probably don’t get Roy, Aldridge, or Oden and some others
by axel360 on Jul 5, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rats, I knew there was a fly in the ointment somewhere.
by MiledAnimal on Jul 5, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking
if we have a time machine we can manipulate some other things too. It wouldn’t take too much work to keep our with CP3 win total low enough to be in position to make the same draft trades and picks.
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on Jul 5, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
being as tho as cp3 is better than all 3 of those players
than it may not be such a bad thing. also if KP is the genius we think he is, then i’m sure he would have found a way to get either roy or aldridge.
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by Philthyanimal on Jul 6, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In all seriousness
New Orleans isn’t keeping CP3 for much longer and everyone knows it. That franchise is too cheap. If i was a betting man, i’d bet he’s not a Hornet in 5 years.
by axel360 on Jul 5, 2009 10:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And
i’m not sure CP3 and Roy could co-exist in the same backcourt. Neither is great if the rock isnt in their hands
by axel360 on Jul 5, 2009 10:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Roy has mentioned publicly that Paul is a someone he's love to play with.
But seriously. Every team in the NBA wants CP3. I highly doubt we would be willing to part with what it would take. Even though Paul Allen would probably have no problem going way over cap if it was possible. Chris Paul is a moneymaker, and is the reason the Hornets can sell tickets.
An Oregonian in Texas.
by NoiseMekanik on Jul 5, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, maybe not Utah :)
My avatar is 3 years into the future for sure...
by Taskmaster on Jul 5, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet Minnesota is going after Paul
they really need a point guard
by axel360 on Jul 5, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They offered Al Jefferson for him
Need to fill that gaping hole at PG
My avatar is 3 years into the future for sure...
by Taskmaster on Jul 5, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad
they couldnt have drafted one. it was a really good point guard draft
by axel360 on Jul 5, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're trying to set a trend
with the NBA’s first all PG lineup. It will be like a game of keep-away!
An Oregonian in Texas.
by NoiseMekanik on Jul 5, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zydrunas Ilgauskas was a PG early in his basketball career
Then he grew just a bit
My avatar is 3 years into the future for sure...
by Taskmaster on Jul 5, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Roy-Paul backcourt would possibly be the greatest backcout in NBA history.
The two of them would have about as much problem playing together as honeymooning newlyweds.
by MiledAnimal on Jul 6, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im sure that Paul would love to come here
as impossible as it is. Besides West, that roster is so devoid of talent it seems.
My avatar is 3 years into the future for sure...
by Taskmaster on Jul 5, 2009 11:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Theoretically, if this happened...
what would you guys do?
by axel360 on Jul 5, 2009 11:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
buy finals tickets
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on Jul 5, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Start making Chris Paul jerseys on a Portland jersey and make millions.
My avatar is 3 years into the future for sure...
by Taskmaster on Jul 5, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're after Lee because
we’ll need him after we trade LA for CP3
by axel360 on Jul 5, 2009 11:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
why would the hornets want West and Aldridge?
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on Jul 5, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well then!
why would we want Blake and CP3?
"It’s a good ol’ fashioned Rip City beat down!"
by Magnum on Jul 5, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol this thread is hilarious
"Knowledge will get you from A to B. Creativity will get you anywhere." Einstein
by Garden of ODEN on Jul 5, 2009 11:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
N.O. MIGHT consider for a few seconds trade sending Brandon Roy, Rudy, and Batum for CP3, and then they would turn it down.
by dario argento on Jul 5, 2009 11:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good thing
if that trade went down, KP would get shot
by axel360 on Jul 5, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you meant to type ...
“if that trade went down, KP George Shinn would get shot.”
by AK1984 on Jul 5, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
If KP did that trade I’d be pissed. Roy isnt just our best player, but the heart and soul of the team. plus rudy and batum were great as rookies and are going to be stars.
by axel360 on Jul 5, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a diehard Washington Huskies fan and actually wouldn't pull the trigger on a Brandon ...
Roy for Chris Paul trade of any variation, but that’d admittedly be due to me going with my heart rather than using my brain. In the NBA today, Paul is a legitimate top-five player — with Dwight Howard, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, and Dwyane Wade being the other four guys on that lofty list — so from an objective viewpoint I must give him the nod over Seattle’s own Brandon Roy.
Again, though, I wouldn’t part with Roy in a trade for Paul; however, that’s due to my fandom in lieu of rational thought. Yet, in any event, at least I’m aware of that human flaw of mine.
by AK1984 on Jul 5, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roy for Paul
in any variation would be a trade NEITHER team would do
by axel360 on Jul 5, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying fandom is a human flaw?
Hello Dum Dum
by ryryslyry on Jul 6, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rotation:
Paul/Blake
Rudy/Bayless
Webster/Outlaw
LMA/Pendergraph
Oden/Przybilla
Not terrible…
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by GonzoFan on Jul 5, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm...
…just realized Rudy’s still in there. I knew it was too good o be true. And looking at it right after I posted it, our roster void of Roy, just makes me sad. Bad idea.
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by GonzoFan on Jul 5, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This isnt the only site with crazy trade ideas
On the Rockets site someone suggested they trade battier to us for Greg Oden and Rudy Fernandez!
by axel360 on Jul 5, 2009 11:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fans in every city
seem to want Rudy on their squad.
An Oregonian in Texas.
by NoiseMekanik on Jul 6, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GO gets no respect outside of Blazerland.
And not much within it, either.
by MiledAnimal on Jul 6, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing is clear though
At this point signing David Lee and trading him Somewhere seems like the best option for utilizing our exisiting cap space – where I am not sure. But realistically why else would the blazers brass be talking to NY about Lee (as is being reported) no way he comes in behind LTrain.
by Oregon521 on Jul 5, 2009 11:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Then we should ask ourselves who the true target is...
Who else is after or would want to trade for Lee? And what can they offer?
"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over."
by GonzoFan on Jul 5, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Send him to Toronto...
…for Hedo?
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by GonzoFan on Jul 5, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How hilarious would it be to force Hedo to play for Portland
by trading for him in three months?
by MiledAnimal on Jul 6, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And since Hedo screwed us over
trade him to the Clippers or Grizzlies
by axel360 on Jul 6, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Anyone buying these rumors
that Portland wants David Lee? Doesnt make sense with Oden, Joel, and LA on the team to add another big for 10 million a year. what does he get, 10-12 minutes a game? channing barely played at all last year as our backup 4
by axel360 on Jul 5, 2009 11:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cause he didn't perform well in our system.
A real tough-guy banger who could board and play ‘d’ would get more minutes. Not a significant amount though, i guess.
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by GonzoFan on Jul 5, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a really confusing time
I honestly have no idea what we’re going to do now that Hedo is out of the picture.
by axel360 on Jul 6, 2009 12:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Screw the Lakers over by bluffing for Odom, then sign Shawn Marion.
Some sources are saying that Shawn’s price has dropped. People are thinking that he’ll have to sign for the MLE. There’s a legit combo 3/4 who plays defense and energy ball with the best of them and will have something to prove after being dissed in Toronto. As far as chemistry is concerned, I’m not sure that I buy into all the knocks on Marion, since I’ve heard other reports that Amare is kind of a d-bag as well. Marion definitely doesn’t play selfishly, and if you want to see some running, he’s got the resume for it. Since he doesn’t create like Hedo, the Blazers would have to redouble their efforts at getting a pg who is better in the pick and roll.
by Benjamanic on Jul 6, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Marion definitely doesn’t play selfishly"
Probably because he can’t. The man can’t create his own shot to save his life.
by ninjasocks on Jul 6, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I once read if all electrons in a glass of water move in the same direction at the same time, the whole glass could jump. It's about as unlikely as OKC and NO accepting this trade, but it could happen.
I honestly think Chris Paul is about the most unmovable player in the NBA. Toronto, Miami and Cleveland might be pondering to move their superstar at the deadline if they seriously fear they can’t re-sign him and would lose him for nothing in return. New Orleans (and Utah for that matter) are not in that danger, since their star point guards have contracts that run through 2012. Even if the owner of New Orleans wanted to move the team to Kansas City or Las Vegas or sell it to another owner, that would be infinitely easier and more profitable with Chris Paul as his flagship player than with a roster full of nice to have players without a single star to put people in the seats.
If you want to trade our spare parts for Devin Harris, I have three quarters I would like to trade for your dollar
by Norsktroll on Jul 6, 2009 12:27 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Crystal Ball
Is it just me or is Baron Davis rotting into obscurity in LA?
by Oregon521 on Jul 6, 2009 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Norsktroll Agreed.
But then again I have not looked to New Orleans the past few years as a model of reason.
by Oregon521 on Jul 6, 2009 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, he ain't moving. And Harris is probably stuck as well. THis isn't NBA2K9.
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Trade for Gerald Wallace!!
by TyboOSU on Jul 6, 2009 3:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree that Cleveland would ever move LBJ
Despite the risk that he might bolt for X team, Cleveland’s fans would burn the Quicken Loans Arena down about 3 seconds after that trade was announced. It would be a public relations nightmare if they traded LBJ, even if it meant getting nothing for him in return as the alternative. Besides, what would a fair trade even be for Lebron? Any trade you do would be getting 40 cents on the dollar at best.
by Furious Styles on Jul 6, 2009 6:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised no one has mentioned in this thread
that CP3 is a base-year compensation player this season.
by MiledAnimal on Jul 6, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it could happen
i think easier with a trade to minn for rubio then package rickey,rudy 10mill pryz and mabey bayless and blake for tyson and paul. the spanish conn would definitely sell some seats and i think they are 18 over the cap which would save them like 36 mil.
by riccc_l on Jul 6, 2009 10:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
if they then traded west for m gasol they would get more national pub than they have now
and we could throw in claver
by riccc_l on Jul 6, 2009 10:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
These CP trade rumors getting more and more outlandish
This makes no sense for OKC, considering if they wanted Lee they have the cap room to sign him outright (even ignoring the fact that we can’t S&T another team’s FA), and they already turned down Chandle on injury concerns and Posey has a bad contract and plays the same position as their star player. So they’d be giving up their 2nd best player and the 3rd pick in the draft (both legit young players on rookie deals) for garbage.
Sure, the CP deals look better for NO if other teams are going to let us take their best players and move them to NO in exchange for garbage, but that doesn’t make the deals any more likely, just changes the stupidity from NO’s end to another team’s.
by Royster on Jul 6, 2009 10:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You right what a ludicrous post - i am jumping sides of the fence because this trade does not make sense for OKC in light
that David Lee Could just sign with OKC … thanks back to the drawing boards, looking for the muted star looking to shine in Portland a la Chauncy and Detroit circa his arrival… Thanks for the good discussion as always BEdgers.
by Oregon521 on Jul 6, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And well the realization that we cannot sign a free agent and then trade them away
problems? yes. But still keeping sights close to the skyline.
by Oregon521 on Jul 6, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone discussed what a terrible deal that is for OKC? Jeff Green is a really good player in that system, has terrific chemistry with Durant, and hasn’t reached his potential at all. You jettison him and a top three pick in Harden for a center with major injury questions, a bench guy in Posey, and David Lee? Pass.
I’ll echo probably 95% of the comments above that this makes zero sense for everybody except Portland. Go back to the RealGM trade machine and try again.
"I take the little gummy bear Flintstones vitamins…I try not to eat the lady. I try not to eat the man. Just give me the car. I try to find the car. Yea, worst case scenario, I eat the lady." - Ron Artest, 2009
by rivetz on Jul 6, 2009 11:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What about
Baron Davis? He is one of the few point guards I haven’t heard anything about.
by axel360 on Jul 6, 2009 12:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
he is not a good fit for us.
last year he also got into arguements over coach because he shot too much
"shaq and zach randolph have the same trainer... "
best one liner i ever heard.
by bowdown on Jul 6, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Clippers could actually sniff .500 this season and have nobody good backing him up, so that’s unlikely. They’d never get fair value for him and at this point they probably want him around for next offseason to woo a free agent or two. With a starting five of Davis, Gordon, Thornton, Griffin, and Camby, the Clippers could win some games, maybe even challenge for a playoff spot.
"I take the little gummy bear Flintstones vitamins…I try not to eat the lady. I try not to eat the man. Just give me the car. I try to find the car. Yea, worst case scenario, I eat the lady." - Ron Artest, 2009
by rivetz on Jul 6, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So essentially
We’re trading Outlaw + Bayless + $3M for CP3?
Haaaaaaaaaaaaa. Give me whatever you’re smoking.
by Arby on Jul 6, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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