Andre Miller is your new starting PG
There has been some discussion about whether or not Andre Miller will start over Steve Blake. No more discussion is needed, Miller is your starter no question at all. All you Blake-o-philes out there need to save your complaints, Miller is superior in nearly every statistical category, and if you believe what the Philly people are saying Miller is high in intensity and spirit as well. Having had a personal calendar that he marked every game as a W or an L for the 76ers this past season as well as tallying the wins the Sixers would need to make the playoffs each month, Miller clearly cares about winning. And Miller even guided his team to the NCAA Championship game just like Blake (however Blake did win the game)
Let's compare the career lines and just see how dominant Miller's career per game numbers are compared to Blake's:
Totals are Career per game stats
Andre Miller - Pts: 14.6 Ast: 7.4 Reb: 4.2 Stl: 1.4 TO: 2.7 FT%: 80.2 FG%: 46.0 3FG%: 21.0
Steve Blake - Pts: 7.6 Ast: 4.2 Reb: 2.1 Stl: 0.7 TO: 1.4 FT%: 78.4 FG%: 41.0 3FG%: 39.2
Andre Miller has had a longer career and while he has played almost 18,000 more minutes than Blake, he has done it all while never missing more than 2 games in a season which is simply an astounding statistic. He has played at least 80 games in all ten years of his career. This guy clearly is a gamer.
In points, rebounds, and steals he doubles Blake's production per game. In assists he nearly doubles it, he has a higher FG% (impacted by his greater ability to drive to the rim) and somewhat surprisingly Miller is a better free throw shooter over his career by a couple percentage points.
And what of the complaints about his 3 point shooting? Well the statistics clearly show that Blake is more competent at the three point line. In fact, by NBA standards Miller certainly seems lost beyond 22 feet. However, fear not Blazers fans. On this front Miller certainly seems to fit McMillan's ideals: he knows he isn't good at shooting three's so he doesn't shoot three's.
What a novel idea right? An NBA player who is cognizant of an actual weakness? In Miller's entire career his highest per game average of 3pt FGA is only 1.4, and his career average of attempts per game from three is a very modest 0.7. That doesn't sound like a guy who hucks up hopeless three ball after hopeless three ball to me does it? Compare Miller's per game 3 point attempts to Blake's (3.1) and you'll see that Miller doesn't need to be a shooter.
So in conclusion, Andre Miller is your opening day point guard barring unforeseen injury. There are no if's and's or but's about it. And I haven't even mentioned the fact that Miller will be making 3 million more dollars than Blake. Find me another backup PG in the league who makes 3 million dollars less than the starter and we'll discuss benching Miller. Until then just be happy that the Blazers have (FINALLY!!!!) made a big free agent signing that seals up one of the positions they've been looking to improve (the other being backup PF).
And if you're really cranky and you just love Blake and you wear your #2 jersey that you had to get made at the custom stand to bed every night then just think of this: Steve Blake will now be matched up against weaker point guards every night. He will be able to direct the Blazers very capable second unit using his sound decision making, passing, and shooting that will slice and dice every other NBA team's second unit.
Blake will thrive in this situation. Miller will thrive in this situation. And best of all the Blazers will thrive!
Tentative 2009-2010 Blazers Depth Chart:
PG: Miller, Blake, Bayless
SG: Roy, Rudy, (Webster possibly?)
SF: Webster, Outlaw, Batum (Cunningham?)
PF: Aldridge, Pendergraph, (Cunningham?)
C: Oden, Przybilla
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I hate to say it, but this team is too deep
Some of these guys are going to be P-O’d this season
Dictated, not read. The management.
He had a hard time getting minutes from S-Rod
I can see him getting next to nil if we keep Blake.
by resurrect_ha28 on Jul 24, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
For the depth chart
I think Outlaw will see more minutes at the back-up 4 than Pendergraph.
"Great Oden's raven!" - Ron Burgandy
My Wife say's he's a loser.
“just look at him….LOOK!!!” so she say’s…. but she didn’t like Brandon either. …. thought he looked like skeletor she didn’t dig greg either, she thought he looked like…… a 40 year old virgin.
me? I thought brandon was gonna be the down fall of the franchise. I thought that Zach rand
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randolph was more than worth his weight in gold,....
I also thought that there was no way in the pits of my hairy arms that we’d ever let sheed go….
so….. what does all this mean?
it means I know diddly squat. :) but …. .lol yeah I dunno what I’m getting at but it made sense when I started…..
my bad.
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-Dave
Step away from the beer cooler!!!!!!
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Bayless is now a lot more available.
a bayless+outlaw package could be pretty attractive for other teams.
I agree with the gist of your post, but...
Find me another backup PG in the league who makes 3 million dollars less than the starter and we’ll discuss benching Miller.
Hinrich made over 5 million more than Rose last year, and will make over 4 million more this coming year (barring a trade).
Rex is a starter by the 2010 trade deadline. Watch.
Point noted!
Rose was a #1 pick, so I dunno kind of a unique situation, but yeah you are right, I am stupid for not thinking of that haha
I was about to point that out
Also Conley made about 3 mil more than Jaric in Memphis. That’s just examples off the top of my head.
"Find me another backup PG in the league who makes 3 million dollars less than the starter and we'll discuss benching Miller."
Rose and Heinrich right of the top of my head.
Anyway, its a little early to be declaring starters and frankly I don’t care how things settle during training camp so long as they STAY settled.
"I don’t have the first clue who he is talking about, because all I worry about is Jerome." – Jerome James, on comments by coach Nate McMillan about Seattle SuperSonics players being selfish.
How 'bout Starbury???
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
Frankly, I don't care who starts at PG
I’m just glad we got two good ones.
If Nate decides to start Blake instead of MIller (for whatever reason) will you print a retraction? (Or will you say that McMIllian doesn’t know what the _ he’s doing?)
This will all get sorted out in training camp and preseason, and I think whichever PG “loses” the battle for the starting job will be “OK” with Nate’s decision and get to work improving the bench and making sure there is no “drop off” in production from quarter to quarter.
At some point in the season, Roy is going to play alongside Miller or Blake and Rudy is going to play alongside Andre/Steve. It’s McMillian’s job to figure out which backcourt gives the team the best chance of winning at various times of the game. No fan (or media member) should feel like they need to do this job for him, 3 months in advance
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The issue I see is how this changes the offense.
With Miller you have to run your offense differently than with Blake. I will certainly grant that Miller is better than Blake, and would even argue that he deserves to start. But Portland had the most efficient offense in the playoffs this last year. That’s not something you necessarily want to lightly change. Blake was a big part of that efficiency. Can Miller duplicate that efficiency?
Still, I think the risk is worth taking. And we still have Oden to grab the offensive rebounds to help that efficiency even more.
μὴ φοβοῦ, μόνον πίστευε.
What do you think of this?
Something along the likes of unloading Outlaw, Bayless, and Pryz for Tayshaun Prince and a backup PF via a 3 way trade or something to that effect. Then sign another vet PG for the min.
I’m not sure I like it. Thins the herd and nets us Prince and our backup big but it’s a lot to give up and I don’t think they want to make a big splash right now.
We do have to move Joel for value though before the trade deadline. That move is coming for sure.
"Life is a meaningless sequence of events in between Blazer championships"
Sigh
We do have to move Joel for value though before the trade
Who’s we? Have you got a moving company? Are the Przybilla’s getting a new house in Portland?
That move is coming for sure.
Okay then, so what are the powerball numbers for next week’s lottery?
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We have Tayshaun Prince already. His name is Nic and he is from France.
Pryz is going NOWHERE.
Outlaw is going SOMEWHERE SOMETIME.
The acquisition of a 33 year old PG is an indicator that KP still believes in Rex. As do I.
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by timbo on Jul 24, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hoooorah!!
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
"New Man Law: If you don't show up for the draft you don't get to come later if you're picked. If you believe in yourself, show up and sit there. If nobody else believes in you, take it and cry like a man...in front of the cameras."
-Dave
except for the belief in rex....
never cared for the stuck upness that he reaks of much. but he can ball.
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
"New Man Law: If you don't show up for the draft you don't get to come later if you're picked. If you believe in yourself, show up and sit there. If nobody else believes in you, take it and cry like a man...in front of the cameras."
-Dave
Pryz is going nowhere – next season. He could go somewhere when he opts out in 2010, but that seems very open.
Otherwise I agree. Acquiring a young PG in the draft or free agency or via trade would have rather been a sign that the Blazers are very unsure about Bayless, if he wasn’t already part of the deal. Now he is still at least the third PG and SG, and that will give him some minutes. I still feel like the plan all along was to let Blake go after this year, or keep him as a backup. I’ll rescind that opinion once Blake gets traded, or Bayless gets traded, not earlier.
I just don't see Pryz opting out of a $7.4M deal so he can test the waters and (hopefully) get somebody to give him the full MLE.
I think he stays in Portland as long as he wants, which is until he hangs it up.
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
I see it differently
Here’s an alternate scenario: Blake could still start and we see the same efficiency as last year. Then Miller could bring his game to the second unit and keep the scoring from falling off by setting up Rudy, Travis, and either Batum or Webster. All that plus his own offense. Even Pryz becomes an occasional p/r scorer.
I’m with two4larue and T Darkstar here. There is now an option available that the Blazers did not have.
Final note: Mike Rice and a couple of others have stated that Miller isn’t good in the locker room. I don’t know if that has credibility or not. One can hope that Brandon and Pryz will make sure he chooses to be a fit.
Mike Rice and a couple of others have stated that Miller isn’t good in the locker room
What if Andre is quiet and keeps to himself when he’s not on the court? How is that being “not good” in the locker room? Rod Strickland was quiet and kept to himself as well, but he had great non-verbal communication with Sabas and his other teammates while on the floor. Sheesh
I do like your line about Miller getting Przy involved in the P&R. If Andre can do for Joel what Nick van Exel did during Przybilla’s 1st season in PDX, the opposing teams will have to commit a defender to JP and that will just open things up further for the other Blazers in the lineup
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When has Mike Rice ever been in a Philadelphia 76ers locker room???
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
exactly
I’m sure Mike has his “sources” but I also expect the Wild one will be singing Andre’s praises the next time he’s on Courtside
One thing’s for sure, Rice didn’t want KP to “stand pat” and the Swami/Confucious/Merlin probably still has a few trade ideas up his sleeve
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That could work in the regular season.
But in the playoffs when the rotation gets tighter Miller will HAVE to start.
by dario argento on Jul 24, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I think this a Great Post!!!
Miller coming to Portland is about making Oden a better player. He’ll make life a lot easier for all the blazers, easy baskets left and right. The team settled way too much on jump shots and 3 pointers, that’s why in the playoff we didn’t have a very good offense cause we waited for Roy to initiate the offense. All in all, when it comes down to it, Miller is a great acquisition for the team the next 2 years, and in the mean time we can find a young point guard that can be 3rd string and learn the NBA game. Maybe next year the Blazers will draft a young pt guard, or whatever KP has in mind. This idea the Blake is better than Miller is ridiculous in my opinion, cause he is so limited in his game, more than Blazer fans want to admit. As for the future line ups I think its clear Outlaw, Bayless have their days numbered as Blazers and the team will clean up playing time quite nicely.
Minutes for each player
Miller – 28 Blake – 18
Roy – 32 Rudy – 28
Webster – 20 Batum – 18
LaMarcus – 36 New Acquisition – 12
Oden – 30 Pryz – 18
This idea the Blake is better than Miller is ridiculous
No one is arguing that point. Are the “best” players always in the starting lineup? Really? Then why do they have a 6th man award?
This debate is worthless, Nate will make the decision on who starts at what positions, not Bedgers.
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It depends on Oden
Miller can run the break and as has been stated is one of the best “lobbers” in the NBA. I want him running the point when Oden, LMA, Batum/martell and roy/rudy are on the floor. There is not a single player that he couldn’t lob to on that squad. It’s ridiculous…
RIDICULOUS! WE ARE GOING TO CRUSH TOWNS NEXT YEAR! AHRHHRHRhhrheherhrgghghhhhh….
I have my P.h.D in unreliable hyperbole.
by Eat Politicians on Jul 24, 2009 10:30 PM PDT reply actions
Lets be different!
One of the keys to winning in the NBA is adjusting to each team. Andre Miller will start ahead of Blake, but Blake is important, as Andre Miller will see more Roy minutes. Roy needs about 8 less minutes for the Blazers to use him to win it all. With a healthy and rested Roy and Miller we might just give LA more than even Ron A. can handle.
What about playing Miller and Blake for ( short ) stretches. Blake plays pretty well as spot up shooter.
That would actually work, I think. Brandon is basically the 1 and Blake the 2 in the 4th Quarter anyways...
"A bizarre and extremely rare hybrid Blazer/Laker fan, Timbo has always struggled to contain the Beast Within, like Dr. Jekyll, Bruce Banner, or Ted Kennedy." — Miled Animal
martell will fill that role this season. bigger stronger faster it'll be him or brandon at the 3/2 spot.
just sayin. I got alot of faith in martell’s superness :)
The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.
"New Man Law: If you don't show up for the draft you don't get to come later if you're picked. If you believe in yourself, show up and sit there. If nobody else believes in you, take it and cry like a man...in front of the cameras."
-Dave
Rudy would have kittens
you’re not actually thinking of another way to cut into Fernandez’ playing time, are you?
I’m still waiting for Rudy’s Spanish agent to report how angry his client is about the Miller signing
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