Oden Says He Can Dominate
Great article on GO. His confidence is back.
"They’re going to see a guy that can dominate on the court and change games," Oden told Yahoo! Sports this week. "…They drafted me for a reason and I want to show them why they drafted me."
He couldn't have said anything better than that!
He's been seeing a shrink (very good news!) and Brian Grant (also great news!).
"To rebuild his confidence, Oden began visiting a sports psychologist. "A little shrink," he joked."
"Former Blazers forward Brian Grant provided similar help, flying from Cincinnati to Columbus to work with Oden four times a week, on and off the court."
"... Dominate ..." - If that doesn't get you excited ...
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The sky is falling
Oh, wait, that wasn’t the sky that blocked that shot, it was GO.
60+ wins this year.
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unlikely
Even if Oden improves significantly, so many other teams have improved around us that winning 60 is very difficult to imagine… especially if Bayless is our backup PG and Outlaw/Pendergraph are manning the backup 4. A couple smart front office moves, and 60 becomes more of a possibility.
60 wins is possible.
I don’t think it’s likely or will happen, but even if no more moves are made, it’s possible. It would take Oden becoming an 18-10 player and continued improvement on career best season performances by Joel and Steve. It would also take continued improvement from the other rookies along with the continued meteoric rise of one Brandon Roy.
I think if they get 54 wins again, the regular season will be a success. It’s more about what they do after that.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
I find 60 probable
Last year I predicted 52-55, and that turned out fine. This year I’m predicted 59-63. Sure other teams have gotten better, but as a whole the league is not simply improving each year. If Jordan’s bulls were playing next year they would stomp their way to the championship. No hand checking to contain Jordan, are you kidding me? He’d average 50 per game. Point in case, everyone says the best teams got better each year, however it simply can not be true. I believe cleveland improved. I’m not convinced about orlando improving. Boston adds wallace, and rondo matures, but KG/pierce/allen are all older and moving farther from their prime. IMO Boston stays about the same. Still in contention, but not the favorite to win it. So again we have 3 teams in the east that look like contenders. In the west we have the lakers, spurs, and blazers. Dallas fans might include them automatically, but they have an outside shot with a lot of talent on the team. If they play well together they could be very good. The nuggets also merit consideration as a long shot to win it. Maybe a Jazz team with excellent health could roll in as another dark horse, but it’s unlikely IMO as they will try to shed boozer and not have enough depth off the bench with Millsap starting.
That would suggest at the start of the season, 6 contenders. Any of those 6 may surpass 60 wins. I expect LA & Cleveland will do it. The other 4 I expect to be around 60. Within 3 wins either way. We still have the possibility for a financially and talent rich lopsided trade. Giving talent to get talent is NOT necessary, as evidenced by the shaq to Cleveland deal. With this team as is, I expect 60 wins to be about the average. A lopsided trade could bring in a couple more Ws and stack the odds in our favor in the play offs. I’m concerned about Bayless having a rough showing in summer league, I expected him to look more polished. It’s only been a few months though, and I want to see several regular season games before I make judgments. The guy has heart, and it sounds like GO is doing great.
I heard the same thing last year about how teams improved
The only significant improvement last year was Denver. Everyone else took a step back. Who improved this year? SA, Cs, maybe the Magic. The Rockets got crushed, we’ll see about the Lakers. The Clips? Maybe but who knows with them. The Grizz? Black hole.
I think you’re missing the notion that the Blazers could very well be the most improved team in the NBA this year simply due to maturation. Look toward the end of the season and our point differential as a signal. If they played like that all season, 60 wins would have been a lock. Their performance in the playoffs revolves around that first game and their road weakness. Both issues look better given experience. Road wins are the number one team issue this year, and I think we’ll see a remarkable improvement there. That should get us darn near 60.
We’ll see about Bayless, but Sergio wasn’t that great either. Nate said he’s likely to use Rudy as a 2nd PG, which means Rex brings the ball up passes and plays SG. Could be lethal. Could bust. More potential there than we had last year.
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Yeah
It looks like a billion teams have improved, but nobody knows how those moves will actually turn out. The Sheed thing w/ the C’s? Who knows what kind of bad chemistry it could brew.
With respect to those other's above me, I agree with you jksnake99.
Regular season wins upwards of the 50s will almost for sure require a good bench (better than Bayless+rooks).
If we try to win 60 something with our awesome starters, we will get them injured from overplaying them. If we don’t overplay them we won’t get 60 something wins.
Where Oden makes the big difference is in the playoffs. Then the rotation shrinks and every game is starter heavy. I’d rather be a better playoff team than focusing on 60+ regular season wins. And, of course, I’d rather have both.
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
50s will almost for sure require a good bench (better than Bayless+rooks)...
Bayless + rooks?
Przybilla?
Rudy?
Webster?
Batum?
Outlaw?
Bayless aside, Cunningham and Pendergraph look like a couple of pretty nice, potential insurance options.
Most, if not all, teams would kill for our bench.
I never said "50s will almost for sure require a good bench (better than Bayless+rooks)..."
Please don’t misquote me. I mean, c’mon, we got that this past season!
I said upwards of the 50s, which would clearly mean anything >60.
Przybilla is currently a starter (though I hope Oden knocks him down) and so is Batum. This leaves a huge gaping hole in our second lineup. Defense. You aren’t gonna beat the playoff teams on the road like that (coincidentally, those were the games we lost).
*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.
really? what? where are you getting the basis for these sweeping claims?
“Regular season wins upwards of the 50s will almost for sure require a good bench (better than Bayless+rooks)”
that’s copied and pasted word for word
plus you don’t try “to win 60 games”, you try to win EVERY game…we won 54 last year, did we overplay our starters? I just think 60 wins is possible considering we had 4 rookies, 3 seeing major minutes last year and won 54 games
“huge, gaping hole in our second lineup”? Bayless, Rudy, Martell, Travis, and Oden/Pryz aint too shabby homie and definitely a better defensive 2nd string thatn most teams have
by rip_city_swagger on Jul 23, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Umm, if Billa starts then we have the best backup Center in the NBA by a wide margin
Also one of the best backup SGs in the NBA. This alone makes our bench good.
Now, I think Oden will start. Let’s say Batum keeps starting.
We have
Bayless
Rudy
Webter
Outlaw
Przybilla
It’s a small backup crew for the time being, but this is by no means a weak unit. Billa single handedly keeps us in the rebound game, Webster/Rudy/Outlaw give us shooting. Bayless can hopefully do something.
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I can see other teams improving hurting the Blazers chance to win a championship
but not necessarily affect the win total. Assuming there’s a roughly finite amount of talent, the only way every team improves is if every team makes mutually beneficial trades/moves (in terms of basketball).
What matters for win total is if the teams the Blazers play more often improved more than the teams that they play less often as well as the distribution of improvement. Having the elite teams improve shouldn’t, in principle, hurt the Blazers a lot. Orlando and the Cavs improved, the Blazers only beat those two teams once last year anyway. The Dallas Mavericks improved but they swept the Blazers last year. Similarly, a team like the Wolves getting worse doesn’t really help the Blazers, since they were probably going to sweep them again next year. Those to teams are at the tails of the distribution:

I don’t see enough of the Blazers peers in the West improving for it to make a big difference. Improvements that would really cut into the Blazers win total are teams like the Clippers, Grizzlies, and Thunder. I don’t think they’ve improved any more than the Rockets or Suns have gotten worse.
Projections will be easier to make when the rosters get finalized, but 60 wins sounds doable to me.
by PoliSam on Jul 23, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What teams have REALLY improved????
San Antonio: Added RJ but lost all of their frontcourt depth behind Duncan, Manu still has health questions
Suns: Lost Shaq and Matt Barnes
Lakers: Lost Ariza/Added Artest, may lose Odom
Jazz: Will be losing Boozer
Mavs: Added Shawn Marion
Rockets: Lost Artest/Added Ariza, Lost Yao for season
Hornets: No major changes
Golden State: No major changes
OKC: Drafted Harden
Memphis: Drafted Thabeet
Denver: Drafted Lawson
Clippers: Drafted Griffin
The Mavs may have improved with Marion, but are still really weak in the middle
Clippers got better with Griffin but they’re success hinges on Baron Davis
THere are some teams like th Clips, Warriors, etc. that may move into the playoff picture, but who has REALLY improved in the West? (Argument can be made for the Spurs but its largely based on the health of Manu Ginobili and Tim Duncan)
by rip_city_swagger on Jul 23, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
OKC will be better
Denver marginally, but we still beat them in Portland.
Rockets worse, we might gain a couple wins against them.
Spurs are likely to be better, they had horrid injury problems last year.
Jazz may be better, internal growth, and they had injury problems. We still beat them in Portland and lose in Utah because, well, they are the Jazz.
L@kers may or may not be better. Suns will be worse. Mavs will probably be better, maybe a lot better. Somehow, I think we’ll get at least one win against them this year even so.
I don’t see us losing twice to the Warriors this year. I don’t see us losing to the Clips. I don’t see us losing twice in Phoenix.
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Mavs beat us up last year IIRC
So even if they get better, only beating them once this year doesn’t hurt our win total from last year.
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It doesn't matter as much how many regular season wins the Blazers get
what matters the most is how they advance in the post season, that’s how all good teams are judged
A couple of examples from Blazer season’s past
in 1977 the team won 49 regular season games and the title, the next year they started 50-10. There was pressure to keep winning and get the best record (#1 seed) and the star players broke down with injurys
in 1991, the Blazers won 63 games and had the #1 seed. In the 4th quarter of game 1 against L*A the Blazers coughed up the lead and lost the home court advantage. Eveybody remembers what happened at the end of game 6
The point is, regular season W-L records mean little, if you can’t follow it up with playoff success. What kind of players would help Portland “get over” in the post season? Rookie backup power forwards and a 20 year-old backup PG? No. This roster still needs a veteran player at those positions. Nate knows it. Brandon knows it. And Bedgers should not be content until KP has upgraded these two roster spots with battle-hardened, playoff-savvy veteran ballers.
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BTW, having home court advantage is great
clearly you want to try and win enough games to get one of the top 4 records in the WC. But KP and several coaches came from the Spurs and you know their philosophy…it’s better to arrive at the post season healthy and “on a roll” then wearing your starters out by trying to win “every” game during the regular season
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Umm, regular season matters and citing a few counter examples doesn't change this.
Number 1 overall seed = 40% of the titles
Other 15 seeds = 60% of the titles
Yeah, that number 1 overall seed sure looks bad.
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Right
There is usually a significant difference between the #6 and #8 seeds. Someone could do the research, and you would find that there is a much higher of #1 seeds that advance than #3 seeds. There is often a significant difference between #4 or 5 seed (second round opponent of the top seed) and #2 or 3 (second round opponent of a second or third seed).
Regular season definitely matters. If we get the second seed, would we have gone out in the first round? Not so likely. There were no easy opponents, but Houston was arguably the toughest we could have had, and we were just a couple of plays from regaining home court advantage.
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We're winning 60
Bank on it.
No one we compete with has improved THAT much, and the bad teams will still be bad and get beat up by us. Anyone who won 20-sumthin’ games last year did not improve as much as Roy/LMA/Oden/Rudy/Batum will. Bayless will have more big, impactful games than Sergio did last year as the backup just by his very nature.
Now we might even beat the Rockets on more than a “lucky” shot. And who has really, really improved this season? Adding Richard Jefferson is fine but their faults that we were able to take advantage of remain the same, the Mavs are our kryptonite anyways for some reason, and none of the really bad teams are going to make the jump to simply bad, over abysmal.
We’ll be slightly better on the road, more consistent and experienced, and win a ton of games.
We’re awesome!
Mortimer
Yeah...
I guess I’ll wait till the schedules come out to make predictions, but without thinking about it too hard there seems to be as many teams that got worse as got better… I’d also keep in mind that opponents often look toughest before the season starts and injuries and problems set in. Obviously, those problems can hit the Blazers too but I like the depth of the Blazers and their ability to weather a “normal” spat of injuries.
I predicted 55-27 last season . . .
and we got close. I figure after a improvement of 14 wins, the Blazers
will improve 1/2 that much, giving us 60.5 wins. Based on rookie to soph
improvement of GO, Batuuuuum, BRex & Rudy. Then you add 3M (crossed
fingers) coming back healthy, that will give us a more physical SF with bombing
capabilities. With these improvements, the team will become more cohesive
in it’s 2nd year together, helping improve team D and offensive ball movement.
The rest of the League improved ??? Who cares. Take care of yourself, then worry
about the opponent !
It's GO time !
Who are these "so many teams" you speak of?
San Antonio has dramatically improved, Boston has improved, and Orlando has improved, and I would say Cleveland has improved. Phoenix will be better but still is in a the lower tier than the blazers. Other than that, I don’t see this dramatic improvement you are talking about.
San Antonio
hasnt dramatically improved. Sure, Jefferson is a solid addition, but other parts of the team, including Duncan are aging, and will provide lesser numbers.
I would say a slight-moderate improvement for San Antonio.
Orlando has not improved. Time will prove that Turk was much more valuable to them than Carter will be. Huge mistake by Orlando. And I am not Turk fan.
How exactly will Pheonix be better? That one confuses me
by TrailBlazer4Life on Jul 23, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
They weren't gonna make playoffs even before he went down
And no Shaq + Barnes now.
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I look forward to you being wrong
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
Figured I might lure you out with that one, Snake
:)
What was your prediction last year? Mine was 54 wins.
What did you predict the year before? I predicted 39 wins (after Greg’s injury).
You’ve been selling this team short for two years, and I’ve been nailing it.
Hopefully, I’ll get to say “I told you so” one more time, and then you’ll be a convert. I know I’ll get one of these predictions wrong sometime, of course, but until then I’ll keep gloating.
This is going to be a very, very good team this year. Greg is going to be that third scorer we need, and better on defense. And didn’t you notice at the end of the year how much the team defense was improving? We’ve lost Sergio and Frye, and they weren’t the key to that improving defense. These guys were starting to learn to play team defense together.
The chemistry will be better, because these guys have now been playing together for longer. That has an impact. Add to that internal growth, and it is easy to see 5-6 more wins, possibly more. I think we win 61-62 even if we don’t make a move with our cap space, and I won’t be surprised if we make a move that helps us even more.
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by jscot on Jul 23, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
With no moves, my preseason pick will probobly be in the neighborhood of 56 wins
Last year, I was off by quite a bit— I think I had us for 46 at the start of the season.
I don’t remember what my pick was for the previous year— I think after Oden went down I had us for the mid to high 30s but I don’t remember for sure.
that 56 win pick is subject to revision once I watch a couple of preseason games
If Oden looks monstrous, I might add a few wins.
Yeah
It’s early.
I also expect, at the very least, that we pick up another guard of some kind (unless Martell is showing he is ready to be a fifth guard). So there is almost certain to be at least one roster move, which means we really don’t know….
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I'm also interested to see what the various projection systems have to say
especially Kevin Pelton’s, since he had the Blazers finishing 3rd in the West with 50+ wins (I forget the exact number his system projected) while most other stat geeks had the Blazers closer to the mid 40s (among other things, they expected regression to the career norms for Przybilla and Blake, which never occurred).
Yes, that will be interesting
But the thing is, there were factors (especially for Joel) that can’t be predicted by stats. Stats can’t predict the impact of not really having to worry about foul trouble because you are splitting time with another center.
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The career norm regression fails to look at one MAJOR issue
Fit.
Blake and Przybilla both have insane fit with this team and I don’t know of a computer out there that can measure fit properly.
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Prognostication . . .
the highest form of flattery !
You went with 39 in 07-08 (AG) ? Mine was .500 + (AG). Post Book it !
It's GO time !
Umm...
Logically, if some teams are improving then others are getting worse. The only two ways this could be untrue is:
1. Young talent in the NBA is getting better. Considering how weak the newest draft class is, and that some of the draft classes entering their primes (05 and 06) were also pretty weak, I don’t think this is true.
2. Almost every team is making moves that benefit both teams greatly. Deals like this exist, but rarely. Usually one team gets better and one team doesn’t. (Kidd deal, Iverson deal, Billups deal, and no doubt the Wallace deal are all examples.)
So, if the top teams are indeed getting better, it means the middle/low teams are getting worse.
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If you thought this summer has been bad
Just wait til next year when the real hate comes in from the media and the other 29 jealous teams! We are certainly going to be under the microscope, but it is going to be one hell of a sweet ride. Roy is great and all but LaMarcus and Greg are the two players that you simply cannot find on any other roster, they just needed time and I think its close baby. The next two years are going to be fun! I might not ever be able to afford to get into a game again, but hey thats what they invented HD TV for right? Good to hear the right things from Greg, and not the right things from the Blazers staff for once.
I'll try anything twice!
by carlitosbonitos on Jul 23, 2009 5:16 AM PDT reply actions
From an Ohio State fan...
I LOVE being a Blazer fan in Ohio. My favorite memory in recent years was Portland drafting GO a couple years back. Watching him in his only year playing college ball was magic. He, and Mike Conley (who I want to make a trade for) were dominant on the court. I wish I could see that again someday.
I can’t wait to see how much more intensity he brings this year. I agree with Kobi…THIS MADE MY DAY!
"be where you are when you're there"
by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 23, 2009 6:43 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I think you meant Jam Master Jay ;)
God Damn this post made my day!
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by TheOdenator on Jul 23, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm a Reds fans from Oregon !
1990 was a great year ! I cleaned a lot of Athletics fans pockets !
“Fear the Goggles” !
It's GO time !
Buck Williams' goggles
Greg has his number 52, now he needs the eye wear
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a second on the Grant accolade.
He was one of my favorite Blazers when he played here. I thought it a mistake not to re-sign him and I rooted for him after he left the team. When I heard he and his family decided that Portland was where they wanted to live, that sealed it. I am really hoping to see Grant hired as an assistent on Nate’s staff. It would / will be great having him back in the Blazer family.
hakkaa päälle !
From what I understand about Parkinson's...
it would be great for Grant also to have something to do to take his mind off of it. What better big man coach for Greg? From a mental and physical side.
Main reason why Blazers will be improved
Even if there is no big change in our roster Is said right here….
Greg Oden is stone serious about this much: This season, he’s stepping onto the court with something to prove.
The Oden Era, Day 764
everyone is 'little' compared to oden.
"There are a few teams you have to watch out for in the fourth quarter."
"Yeah, but Portland definitely is not one of them."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters at the end of the third quarter with the Hornets leading 74-59. Portland later ends up winning 97-89.
"They don't mind him shooting that shot at all. Rudy Fernandez is not that great of a 3pt shooter."
-New Orleans Hornets broadcasters right after a Rudy Fernandez missed 3pter. Rudy Fernandez finished the game with three 3pters on six attempts.
If anything
Do it to shut up all the haters.
by Sabonis4Ever on Jul 24, 2009 3:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone know?
What time the practice is at today and if there is going to be a summary or anything of that nature?
gave me shivers!
I want G.O. to dominate so bad that this article gave me shivers for real. It sure would make this summer feel less wasted if he came out swinging this year, that’s for sure!
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i love brian grant
if brandon roy played for toronto he'd be brandon waaaaah
my response to the title...
duh.
"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.
But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html
YOU DAM RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Oden WILL dominate, and we will be Champions.
Go Blazers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!































