Why our cap space next year isn't the same as RLEC last year
I have read several references to RLEC in recent days. Those who feel strongly that the team needs to make a move, and make it now, seem to be arguing that waiting to use our cap space until closer to the 2010 trade deadline is analogous to last seasons failure to make use of RLEC. Basically, the argument is something like this, "don't talk to me about all the bargains that are going to be available as the trade deadline approaches, I heard that line last year and nothing happened. Get a deal done now!"
I see your point, and I feel your pain, but there are several reasons I think the current situation is different than the situation last February. Let's break it down and discuss after the jump.
Let me begin by saying I am not an expert on the cap and luxury tax. If any of you "capologists" out there think I am missing relevant info, please chime in to the discussion.
Here is a list of reasons why I think the two situations are different:
1) Lower cap and tax threshold for next season: In February 2009, there was a lot of economic uncertainty, but the actual pain is going to be very real next season. The cap and the tax level both came down between $1-2 million for next season. My understanding is that teams can go into the season above the tax level without actually having to pay the tax, as long as they reduce salary before the 2010 draft. This reality is likely to put pressure on several teams to dump salaries during the season.
2) Expected sharp drop in cap and tax for 2010-11: More significantly, the league released estimates for the cap and tax thresholds for next summer. The cap is expected to drop significantly by about $7 million dollars. This reduction is likely to be the 800 lb gorilla of teams financial moves next year. Many teams are going to need to reduce salaries or face large tax consequences the following season.
3) As everyone knows, next summer has a huge free agent crop: Teams are going to need to shed salary to position themselves to have sufficient room under the cap to compete for these marque free agents. New York, New Jersey, and Chicago are three teams that are expected to try to be in the hunt for LeBron, Bosh, Wade, etc. Because the cap is expected to fall significantly, these teams need to shed salary if they are going to offer max deals to these superstar FAs.
4) In addition to cap room, the Blazers have two quality expiring contracts: Both Outlaw and Blake are in the final year of their contracts. This means the team can potentially package one, or the other, or both, with the cap room to take back a very large contract. Blake and Outlaw are each at about $4 million per year. The Blazers will have about $9 million in cap space once the season starts and the cap holds for the Euros are lifted. Packaged together, that means the team could take back a whopping $17 million contract. Other teams are more likely to do a deal if they are getting back decent players in the short run. It is a lot easier to get your fan base to accept a salary dump of a big name player, if you are getting back Blake or Outlaw, rather than a corpse like RLEC.
5) Teams have to walk a fine line between being competitive and being financially prudent: Before the season begins, every team is a winner, every team at least harbors illusions of being competitive. Teams need to nurture this fantasy in order to get season ticket holders to renew for the upcoming season. This is particularly true for the worst teams, in the smallest markets, under the most financial pressure. Trading away players now, may have a real cost at the ticket office. By February, illusions of improvement will have faded and the grim reality of losses on the floor, and on the balance sheet, are likely to be pressing on numerous owners.
With its combination of cap space and quality expiring contracts, Portland is uniquely positioned to take advantage of the realities of the current economic situation. The cap and tax reductions are tied to overall league revenue. The reason they are expected to drop significantly next summer is because revenue is expected to be down sharply this season. Reportedly, the Blazers have the highest percentage of season ticket renewals in the league at over 90%.
Many teams are likely looking at a very grim revenue picture. Ticket sales are only one piece of the puzzle. Luxury suite sales are down as corporations are cutting back. Broadcast revenue is down because broadcasters are hurting for ad revenue. Merchandise sales and concession sales are off sharply as consumers try to cut back on non-essential expenses.
Summary: Given the combination of factors outlined above, I think the Blazers have a much better chance of finding a willing partner for an unbalanced trade this year than last year with RLEC. I am not a huge fan of trade scenarios, because of the highly speculative nature of most of the discussions. I am a fan of discussing the Blazers strategic situation. My feeling is that KP and team management are taking the right approach. They tried to go after their #1 FA target. Now, having been stymied by factors beyond their control, they are taking a patient approach; waiting for the right deal to come along.
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I don’t know if “they are taking the right approach” because I don’t know what offers have been available. I think it is probable that they are, though.
We keep hearing rumors that Portland was interested in this guy and that guy and the other guy. That tells me KP is talking to people and exploring possibilities, which is all to the good. He should be — you want to be available in case a really good deal comes along. And if you talk to people, even just in the most exploratory conversations, rumors will get out from time to time. No problems there.
One minor quibble, they didn’t just go after their #1 target, they went after a secondary target as well. Other than that, a good post — it is too early to be depressed about the cap space not having been used, or to assume KP isn’t doing his job well. Disappointed, sure. Depressed? Too early.
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by jscot on Jul 21, 2009 7:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess, I say Milsap as a maneuver to force Utah to dump Boozer, rather than as a real run at a player.
Thanks for the kind words.
by upper left corner on Jul 21, 2009 7:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, probably
Although I think they would have been very happy to have him.
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by jscot on Jul 21, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw it as a savvy, no-risk move
If Utah had declined to match, Portland gets a very good player who is valuable either on roster or as a tradeable entity after the high level 2010 free agents decide and some team needs to appease a disappointed fanbase.
When Utah matched, all Portland lost was a week of their cap time. No biggie. Also, it forces them to move a piece, which almost assuredly will be the Booze Cruise.
by dprodigy19 on Jul 21, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good summary
One problem is that we won’t be the only team that can do this, so the risk of not landing the player we want will still be high. For example OKC and Minnesota have the cap space. Minnesota now also has three big expiring contracts (Q-Rich, Thomas, Cardinal).
Dallas has no cap space, but the best unguaranteed contract for the next summer in Erick Dampier, and could match salaries up to 16 million in a sign & trade. Combined with Josh Howard (team option), they could match any salary in a trade or sign and trade they want. Could be a superstar if no other team makes him a good offer and he doesn’t want to re-sign (most just will), could be rather a second-tier player like Emeka Okafor, Gerald Wallace or Joe Johnson.
I think unless everything goes wrong the Blazers also will still be able to add a player “for free”, it just might be a significantly worse one than we (and maybe they) now hope. No team will put their big stars on the market just for salary relief even if their financial situation doesn’t fit their position in the standings. Think Antawn Jamison instead of Caron Butler. James Posey instead of Chris Paul. Kwame Brown instead of Tayshaun Prince. Troy Murphy/Mike Dunleavy instead of Danny Granger.
by Northtroll on Jul 21, 2009 8:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree with you in general about 'stars' being available
But I’ve learned to also never say never. Teams can pretty quickly change their focus and direction – especially when the bottom line of money plays a major factor. I have no doubt that Washington would rather trade Jamison than Butler, for example, but they might not have that choice.
Also, I don’t think Minnesota is going to have cap room this season. They seem to be shooting for room next summer, but they should be slightly over the cap in 2009-10. OKC will, but they also seem to be looking at 2010 for their acquistion. Again, that could change…..
by Storyteller on Jul 21, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who would have thought that Chandler would be made available?
Mid-season, any team with a cost conscious owner (cheap) whose teams is clearly not a contendor could put any player up for sale if it gets them out of paying luxury tax and gets them a luxury tax return instead. The Blazers can do that for a team in a lopsided trade. BEing only one of two team that can make a big cost reduction impact makes it a rare commodity. What we won’t know is how many teams wil be looking to cut payroll. The odds say theri will be more than two teams, and the more teams want to cut salary the mor ethe Blazers can get in return for their cap-space. It is a safe bet Phoenix and NO will be looking to dump salary if possible, and there shoul dbe many others too. I agree with Upper left corner, that cap space value is low right now but will be much higher once the season starts.
by NWfan on Jul 21, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's big difference between "big exp. contract" vs. "decent cap room + decent exp. contract"
let’s say a team has a $16M expiring contract and Blazers have $7M expiring contracts + $9M cap space. On paper they can both trade for a roughly $16M player. But for teams that want to avoid luxury tax, only our package can help them achieve what they want. Because we can help them lower the team salary by $9M and save (or totally avoid) tax.
In the other hand, for teams that just want to clear space for 2010 FA market, these 2 cases are virtually the same.
by iverigma2 on Jul 21, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True. Though that also doesn't put us in a unique situation.
E.g. Minny’s expiring contracts are $6,750,000; $7,906,088; and $8,700,000. And they have about $9 million in cap space left before filling the roster out now. OKC has $20 million so they can really take on players for nothing in return, though it’s uncertain if they will let other teams “use it” for contracts that run longer.
by Northtroll on Jul 21, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup I was mainly responding to the Dallas part
I know OKC is still gonna be a competitor. But I don’t understand how MIN is gonna have any capspace left?
Here are all their players under contract after the QRich trade. Their salaries add up to $56.4 million, which is only $1.3 million under the cap.
Al Jefferson 12,000,000
Etan Thomas 7,906,088
Brian Cardinal 6,750,000
Darius Songaila 4,526,000
Ryan Gomes 4,017,500
Kevin Love 3,401,040
Jonny Flynn 2,969,280
Corey Brewer 2,916,120
Quentin Richardson 8,700,000
Oleksiy Pecherov 1,547,640
Wayne Ellington 1,003,560
Bobby Brown 736,420
by iverigma2 on Jul 21, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have a cap hold on Rubio, too
until the season starts.
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by jscot on Jul 21, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minnesota will not be a factor for teams looking to avoid the tax for 2009-2010
They will, however, be a major factor for teams that want to move under the cap for 2010-2011
by dprodigy19 on Jul 21, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Willingness to pay
It’s true that the Blazers will not be the only team capable of offering financial relief to cash-strapped owners. Of the teams with space, however, they will likely be the only ones willing to take on a significant financial burden to win.
Minny has been notoriously cheap. Sacto appears to be rudderless, and has been suffering financially. It seems unlikely that OKC is willing to pay for a high-priced roster this early in their development either.
The Blazers are probably the one teams with the magical combination of cap space, an owner with money (hopefully), and roster worth paying the luxury tax to win now with. Also, using our cap space is essentially costless to us, since it will evaporate next summer anyhow. The same is not true of the other teams with cap space. Using their cap space at the dealine will cost them the flexibility to use it in the future, making them less likely to deal it away.
by DC Blazer on Jul 21, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed all around
Thanks for adding your knowledge to the mix.
by upper left corner on Jul 21, 2009 8:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
good post
I think the key is our willingness to wait until the trade deadline. Given we have been reticent to make a move mid-year, particularly if we have a solid start, I wonder if we will be getting a player we are all hoping that we get.
While some risk increases the longer we wait, so does the potential upside. But the price of a “steal” at the trade is that mid-season disruption. I am willing to deal with taking that chance and some disruption, but not sure the Blazers front office is.
by oregontrail on Jul 21, 2009 10:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
one of the poll answers was
KP screwed up and missed his opportunities, now we have no choice.
I could ammend that to … “KP screwed up and missed his opportunities, now he has no choice.”
KP hasn’t “liked” to make mid-season deals in the past for fear of “messing up the chemistry” but unless “the right fit” comes along during (or shortly after) training camp (like Billups, last year?) KP will have to step out of his comfort zone and into the great unknown
Devin Harris would be a great acquisition, no matter if he’s coming in October or February. But if KP waits around for a “select” group of players and none of them actually “shake free” we could all get stuck with a lump of coal in our collective stocking
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by two4larue on Jul 21, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think we need a "select" player
The whole point is that we go after players in the secondary market — the ones that become available as other teams line up for the top tier of FA2010 or try to get out of paying taxes. We’ll see, but my guess is there will be more than the usual amount of them available for the very points in the original post. If it doesn’t look like you’re going to go deep into the playoffs, why not cut as much off your tax payments as possible before they’re locked in?
by JStal on Jul 21, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was referring to KP and his "special fit"
Jason Quick and others have mentioned this in the past, and KP has talked about it several times. The Blazer’s GM has a short list of players that he would love to acquire, if he could. Two names I remember Quick mentioning a few weeks ago on 1080 were Devin Harris (yeah!) and Rudy Gay (gulp!) I’m sure there are others but the point is, KP could become so “locked in” to getting the “right fit” for the roster that he paints himself into a corner come February deadline time.
It’s nice to speculate about “the Wizards sucking and Caron Butler being available” but we have no idea what it would take for Washington to ever consider parting with Butler or if KP likes him enough in the first place to meet their price.
And that’s just one example. It takes two teams to make a deal (sometimes 3!) and I’m getting the same “happy happy joy joy we’ve got something that everybody else wants” vibe that I got last winter when RLEC was all the rage. Forgive me if I stick my finger down my throat and gag (just a little) but having a great asset is worthless if you never cash it in, and waiting around for the perfect deal to drop out of the sky is just as much of a “risk” as making a deal before the season for a couple of veteran players who are good fits but aren’t the “perfect” age to play for 5 years with the core players (etc)
Sometimes you’ve got to fish or cut bait, piss or get off the pot (pick your favorite cliche) and I’m not going to get swept away with all of this “this time we’re really, really, really gonna get a great deal if we wait” mania. I want the bird in the hand, the pretty ones out there in the bushes may never come KP’s way, no matter how much cap-space he has to offer
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by two4larue on Jul 21, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's great
Which bird in the hand do you KNOW we can get? Because unless you know we can get it, it is out there in the bushes, too.
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by jscot on Jul 22, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andre Miller is the flavor of the week
According to David Aldridge, the 2 sides have renewed “interest” This is being discussed on at least one fanshot and a couple of fanposts
And KP told SI.com’s Scott Howard-Cooper that “we are open for business” and that while a move probably won’t be made “tomorrow” there could be a deal happening in the “weeks” ahead
(Notice KP said weeks, not months)
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by two4larue on Jul 22, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
1. I don’t KNOW that we can get Andre, and you don’t either. The fact that people are talking about this means nothing.
2. I’m not sure that this bird in the hand, if we did get him, would even make us any better. Ask most people what they want from a PG to play alongside Brandon, and they’ll say a) defend quick PGs (ugh) b) hit the 3 to keep the lane from getting congested (ugh) c) bring the ball up, under pressure if needed (ok) and d) hopefully provide another scoring threat to take some pressure off Brandon and LMA (good).
The least important of the PG qualities is the only one that Andre seems great for.
If that is the bird in the hand, I’m not sure I want him. People say he can post up PGs. Sorry, but I want Oden and LMA to be doing most of the posting up on this team.
I would rather wait for a bird in the bush that actually improves us than grab one that won’t. Now, maybe KP thinks Andre will improve us. If so, and he goes and gets him, I’ll assume he’s smarter than I am. There’s enough to Andre to convince me he might be an asset for us and there is a possibility I’m wrong — but he looks to me like a bad contract in a year’s time.
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by jscot on Jul 23, 2009 4:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are not getting my vibe
I am not trying to suggest that we are going to be given great players if we just wait long enough. I don’t think teams are anxious to give away top level talent just to dump salary. I do think that the rules of supply and demand suggest that quality deals are likely to crop up between now and the trade deadline.
As soon as a good deal for a quality player, who is going to be a good fit, is offered, I expect KP to take it. I am only trying to suggest that the general economic climate is more favorable to the Blazers than was the climate at the trade deadline last year. There is risk in continuing to wait. I acknowledge that risk. OTOH, I think waiting for the right deal is preferable to pulling the trigger on the wrong deal.
We can afford to be patient. Patience doesn’t guarantee that we are going to get some kind of a steal, but it is a prudent position given the overall situation.
by upper left corner on Jul 22, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're not interested in "making a deal just to be making a deal"
I understand, duly noted. Neither is KP, neither am I
“the rules of supply and demand” suggested that RLEC would be attractive last February, as well
just sayin’
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by two4larue on Jul 22, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are right
The difference is that there is likely to be more demand for cap relief this year, and less supply.
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by jscot on Jul 23, 2009 4:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the Ren & Stimpy reference
Big D from Blog-A-Bull - "Pritchard is such a genius that teams just give him players for free."
Greg Oden - The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 400 rebounds, and 65 blocks in under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jul 22, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So who will be selling?
And what players do we think will come available? That’s the big question here.
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by bfan on Jul 21, 2009 11:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Washington?
I would imagine that if Washington has another under-performing season, they might begin to consider blowing the team up and starting anew, especially given Jamison’s advancing age. Perhaps Butler might be available this time around, especially if his numbers dip a bit.
I think there are probably four two categories of teams that could be sellers at the deadline, some of which may apply to multiple teams:
1. Teams with aging stars that no longer cut it, or suffer from injuries. (Maybe Phoenix, San Antonio, Boston, Houston, Detroit, etc.)
2. Teams that expected to make the playoffs but appear to be falling short, and are unable to attract fans. (Phoenix, Houston, Washington, Philly, Chicago, and Atlanta may all fall here)
3. Teams with super-cheap owners. (The usual suspects: Memphis, the Clippers, and perhaps Minny)
4. Teams gunning for the FA bonanza of 2010. (NY, NJ, Miami, Chicago, and countless other delusional teams)
I have a feeling that fourth category won’t be nearly as significant as once expected. Given the rapidly shrinking cap and rough financial waters, I wouldn’t be surprised if many teams get cold feet and decide not to scrap their rosters on a pipe dream.
by DC Blazer on Jul 21, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My best guess (NOTE: These aren't teams looking for 2010, these are teams looking to shed $ this season)
Philadelphia- The big one. They are at the luxury tax line for 2010-2011, so god knows how badly they’re in now. I honestly think Portland could get Iguodala if they’re willing to eat Dalembert’s deal (and I would support that deal incredibly strongly).
New Orleans- Anyone and everyone. Sadly, all their top players that aren’t CP3 play the wrong positions for Portland
New Jersey- If it’s not nailed down (meaning rookie deal), it’s available. Even though his character is shaky, Sean Williams would be an interesting buy low.
Golden State- For some reason, their management keeps on wanting to move guys, so you never know.
Denver- Still in a major salary hole.
Milwaukee- Too much cash tied up in players that aren’t worth it. Could go big for a guy like Redd.
Memphis- I run under the assumption that they’re always selling.
Utah- At least until Boozer is dealt.
Phoenix- See Memphis.
by dprodigy19 on Jul 21, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would add teams that start slow (compared to expectations for the upcoming season) that may throw in the towel on '09-'10
Washington – see comments above
Chicago – looking to load up for ’10 FA
Atlanta – just re-signed Bibby and looking to reload if they are losing
even…
Detroit – economy really sucks there and if they aren’t winning may try to shed some salary, tax or not
Charlotte – if they’re out of the playoff race, look for them to shed salaries
Houston – If Yao doesn’t come back and with McGrady’s huge salary he might be a big chip for them to try and trade
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by Matt Daddy on Jul 21, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A few things
Washington won’t concede before the Break unless they’re close to being mathematically eliminated. Their fanbase is too shellshocked for them to try anything else.
Detroit has all the makings of one, except that they have the GM who spent a ton of $ this offseason who is keeping his job. That said, I think they will move some key guys (just not as salary dumps).
Houston is committed to spending- their owner has a ton of faith in Morey, with good reason, and is giving him a pretty big spending leash. Their big problem is that they don’t have a ton of 2010 flexibility (thanks to Yao, Battier, and Trevor being on the books), so we’ll probably see them move T-Mac.
by dprodigy19 on Jul 21, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
McGrady’s huge salary he might be a big chip for them to try and trade
KP would have to deal Outlaw, Blake, Webster, Pryzbilla + cap-space to reach out and touch T-Mac’s 22 mil$ salary. Even if he was willing to do this—and based on what happened this July—I’m not optimistic about that huge expiring contract turning into a franchise-changing UFA (or two) 12 months from now
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by two4larue on Jul 21, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree in part; however,
I’m not sure the impetus to trade players in order to clear cap space for the impending FA class of 2010 will still exist when the trade deadline comes this season.
As you assert in your second point, there will be a significant reduction of the salary cap and luxury tax next season. And as such, the number allocated to a max contract will also diminish (I believe the number of a max contract is a percentage of the overall cap?). This means players who fail to sign an extension this summer (Lebron, Wade, Bosh, etc.) will lose significant money if they sign their contracts next year. Consequently, I think most of those players will not be FA next year because they will sign their extensions soon. Just my opinion.
That said, I still think it is prudent to wait until the trade deadline to see what is out there. I agree with your fifth point. It seems like many teams are overpaying to compete for just a playoff spot, such as Toronto, Washington, New Orleans, Philly, and I’m sure I’m forgetting a few. If those teams have trouble for any reason there could be a fire sale on good players, in which case we would be able to swoop.
I’ld love to see Andre Iguodala or Caron Butler or Jose Calderon in a Blazer uniform
Good post.
by degro77 on Jul 21, 2009 11:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The main point he's making
is that the desperate teams will not be clearing cap space for the summer of 2010, but trying to get out of luxury tax for the 2009-2010 season. A team that wants space in 2010 will want to do a deal with us, too, but the ones desperate to deal with us will be the ones trying to get out of luxury tax for 2009-2010.
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by jscot on Jul 21, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that what a summary is? thanks for the clarification.
by degro77 on Jul 21, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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Thanks for your attempt to slow down the Chicken L’ils here in Portland
by Chris-8ally on Jul 21, 2009 11:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Another Big Difference
Since we will be under the salary cap come next trading deadline, there is an option of a lopsided trade. With the RLEC, we can only do a matching trade with other teams. I believe that’s a huge difference.
by Balian on Jul 21, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
good point
I feel somewhat more relieved
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by two4larue on Jul 21, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cap space + expiring contracts for quality role players > RLEC
Both in terms of value and flexibility.
by upper left corner on Jul 22, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another huge aspect of RLEC
is that he was injured. Insurance would pay almost all of his contract. So not only would having Raef on the books for his final year give you a huge expiring contract, but you barely had to pay any of it.
So essentially, whichever team allowed Raef to expire on their books (us) paid him scrub-level with the expiring salary implications of an expiring superstar.
RLEC was truly a rare commodity. It stinks that we couldn’t get anything for him, but we have to remember that Paul Allen is a human too, and saving millions of dollars is pretty important to him.
by Twith on Jul 21, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
KP is doing the best he can. Hedo screwed us (though in his shoes I may have done the same) and Millsap was a no-lose situation. Who else were we gonna get? Ariza is the Devil in these parts and Odom/Artest are headcases.
Come the trade deadline we will be sitting pretty while other teams run around like headless chickens trying to shed salary. We have a terrific team and there is NO need to act rashly.
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by RDreamer on Jul 21, 2009 3:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still believe...
that there are very good, experienced, players out there under contract who would jump at the chance to play for a title in Portland. That is why the Hedo hoodwink took away any respect I had for the guy; I mean Toronto does not get a title anytime soon; he just took the dough.
Portland is one or two pieces away from a title and can trade value thanks to the youth movement here. There are (I hope) vet’s out there that want a title and can see one (or more) titles in Portland in the next few years if they bust their humps and teach the young guys how to play smart and play to win in the NBA. I imagine a couple of no-trade clauses could be waived to get in on the Portland run to the title. I’m not afraid of a couple of 28-32 year old vets to teach the younger players the tricks of the trade, if that’s what it takes. This approach would open the window now (or up to the trade deadline) instead of a couple of years from now if Portland stands pat. KP knows who those guys are I would bet.
by Rick C in Tigard on Jul 21, 2009 8:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There aren't a lot of Joels and Steves out there
I don’t want to stereotype anyone, but these comments have been made elsewhere and I’m just repeating what I’ve heard, and observed
First of all, Portland is not considered a “destination” city for the majority of NBA players, whether they grew up in Brooklyn or Chicago or Turkey—they aren’t thinking about the Blazers when FA time comes around. Sure, Portland has a young/talented team and most national writers and NBA people see them as being “on the verge” of a great run of success. But they’re not there yet—they lost in the first round—and there’s no guarantee that they will advance past that point in the next few years, at least that’s how it could seem to an outside observer. Now, when Portland does win a couple of playoff series and is one of the 4 remaining teams playing deep into May this could change the minds of the veteran free agents…but by then the Blazers will be out of cap-space and will only have the MLE (etc) to offer.
I don’t think too many fans appreciate what Blake and Przybilla did, wn hey agreed to “sign on” for a chance to rebuild the Blazers from the ground up. (And I suppose this is what bugs me when they’re mentioned casually in trade rumors, like their past loyalty is of little value.) I’m sure Nate and KP don’t feel that way about them, and it’s why I’m quick to mention things like “KP and Nate are really high on Steve and Joel, and they’ll have to get their socks knocked off by a deal to part with them”
Sure, the NBA’s a business, and sometimes KP will have to deal away some of his “favorite” players to improve the roster. But he’s not going to be in a hurry to jetison a couple of guys who chose to stick around during the lean times (just so he can chase a new “bauble”) just as the team is finally getting close to the goal that those veterans have been looking forward to being a part of (and busting their humps to achieve) for 3 years. That would send a sour message, not only the teammates who wld remain, but also to any “potential” free agents out there who KP might want to offer the MLE to in offseasons yet to come.
Not all NBA players are “about” chasing after a warm weather city that’s chock-full of corporate endorsements, it only seems that way, sometimes
When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!
by two4larue on Jul 21, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Portland may not be a "destination," but it has to be seen as desirable by many players:
Light rain beats the heck out of freezing in the winter. Summers are awesome. Transportation is better than a lot of cities. Blazer One is a pretty nice perk. Excellent practice facility.
Above all, players know this team is going to be very good. They may not see it as an instant ring, but players can tell that this is going to be a very good team for the next decade.
By the end of next season, assuming they match or exceed the 54 win total, I expect the Blazers to be considered an “elite team.” Once they are considered a real candidate for a championship they will be able to bring in aging stars in search of a ring.
by upper left corner on Jul 22, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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