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You have to choose between two PGs... which do you choose?

  • Player A is 28, Player B is 34.
  • Player A is locked into $4 million next year, Player B wants a multi-year $10 million per deal.
  • Player A scored 11 ppg with 5 asts in the slowest pace and most efficient offense in the league, Player B scored 16 ppg with 6.5 asts in the 21st rated pace and 19th most efficient offense.
  • Player A shoots 39.2% from three on his career with 42.7% from three last season, Player B shoots 21.0% from three on his career with 28.3% from three last season.
  • Player A was TS%: 55.7%, eFG%: 53.6%, TOV%: 13.6%, Player B was TS%: 54.8%, eFG%: 48.0%, TOV%: 14.0%
  • Player A and Player B both have an individual defensive rating of 110.

Who you got?

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sorry J.L. ;-)~

Look...I love Trevor Ariza....But $32-$40 million?!? That better be a 16-year contract. --Dave

by prezofdeath on Jul 2, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neither

I don’t want Seve Blake or Andre Miller

Postin' Up On The Block Like A Mail Box...

by Kpeddi27 on Jul 2, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I will take Blake too

"You're welcome friend
I love you."
- Tom "Dragline" inHawaii

by 92wastheyear on Jul 2, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

After much thought

1. Harris
2. Hinrich
3. Sessions
3. Kidd
4. Blake
5. who cares

Keep in mind that everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazers Edge.

by pualo on Jul 2, 2009 1:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Hopefully the universe of choices is larger than those two guys

But Miller can penetrate off the dribble, and Blake cannot.

What KP does will determine whether he thinks he needs that skill from his PG.

At this point in free agency, the key part of that phrase is “agent”. The agents are driving all the rumors, don’t believe a word until there are signed contracts in hand.

by baduk on Jul 2, 2009 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Cannot make an intelligent choice...

based on just the numbers and information given. You need to know more about each player. First of all, what is their size, speed and injury history? Next, what teams they played for and how successful are their respective teams, i.e. are they “winners” and come from a winning culture? Also, who were their teammates and do they make their teammates better? Also, what is their respective style of play and respective roles on their teams? What kind of defense do they play?

You really need to know who the players are, even though that obviously brings in a lot of bias and other subjective factors. Obviously you are trying to make this a purely objective analysis, but unfortunately that is just not possible.

by socalblazer on Jul 2, 2009 1:59 PM PDT reply actions  

rather have blake cuz he cheaper

but i got a mancrush on hinrich soo i want him soo bad

Oden...Aldridge...Roy.....THE REAL BIG THREE

by CroRupt on Jul 2, 2009 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

How much will Blake cost in 10-11, how many yrs will he want

True – he won’t be a $10M player – but the drumbeat of him being great because he’s a bargain is getting old. If he’s playing as well as a $8M player he’ll want a $8M contract. I’d rather take the slightly younger, slightly better version of Blake who happens to have a contract that expires the same years as Bayless’. I’m speaking of Hinrich, of course!

by Mad Matt the Road Warrior on Jul 2, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you're going to be completely misleading in a post

at least make sure the misleading facts you provide are accurate.

Player A is 28, Player B is 34.

Blake is 29, Miller is 33.

Blake is between 3 and 4 years younger than Miller, not 6.

by as11osu on Jul 2, 2009 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

If they are the same age...

I’d still rather stick with Blake than have Miller…

by Ilikeemall on Jul 2, 2009 2:26 PM PDT reply actions  

It's all about PERspective.

Career PER:
Player A: 12.1
Player B: 18.0

2009 PER:
Player A: 14.5
Player B: 18.6

It’s easy to sell something when you only talk about it’s positives.

by Arby on Jul 2, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Like highlight reels

"Tough times don't last. Tough people do."
-Chauncey Billups

by Kelsoballa on Jul 2, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

you raise a great point, we need Steve Miller

fly like an eagle.

dinasour type of guys choir boys

by mittsabishy on Jul 2, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

somebody gimme a cheeseburger!

Without you out there, we're nowhere here

by 22baylor on Jul 2, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

if we get hedo, i think a free agent point guard is out of the question

batum, hedo, martell, and outlaw all play small forward. trade two of those for a good point guard

The new GM of the Detroit Pistons
bayless leaves over my dead body
sign mike bibby

by thomasikehara on Jul 2, 2009 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

:( given the choices.... it is nash and blake right?

I’ll take blake, but if it were say a jason kidd…. then I take kidd… lol… I"m stupid like that.

The Faith don't panic, the faith freaks out, burns out farms, and torchs small villages in the name of The Faith.

"New Man Law: If you don't show up for the draft you don't get to come later if you're picked. If you believe in yourself, show up and sit there. If nobody else believes in you, take it and cry like a man...in front of the cameras."

-Dave

by faith on Jul 2, 2009 3:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Nash is never gonna be happy playing Blake's role on this team

He’s a floor general, not a camp-at-the-arc spot-up shooter. He needs the ball in a free-flowing offense to really succeed.

Also, his defense is atrocious.

by ninjasocks on Jul 2, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of the two

we take Hedo. Can you see him at the point, Rudy at the 2 guard and Brandon at the 3? Well, Steve Blake is gonna have trouble cracking that lineup. And if Ariza comes on board then watch out for the ArizaWebsterBatumOutlaw combination coming off the bench. That will definitely fill the holes. Did you see “Holes?”

by oregonslee on Jul 2, 2009 6:56 PM PDT reply actions  

You make a fair enough point, JL

From the stats you’re throwing out there Blake beats A.Miller – but we all know there’s more to player value than stats, and stats can be tweaked to make whatever point you want.

Me, I still believe we need an upgrade at PG. I’d like to see Blake & Travis packaged for a player like Devin Harris or Jose Calderon – if I’m not mistaken the salaries add up on both those guys (or are at least in the ballpark), and if we still have some of those trade exceptions from the Diogu for Ruffin and Sergio for the rights to Pendergraph, we could probably eat the difference.

Both the Raptors and Nets likely wanna rebuild, and while I think it would be tough to pry D.Harris away (especially if they want to convince LBJ to sign), they have to like the salary flexibility they’d be getting with Outlaw and Blake (who’s contracts expire right when they’d be making the LBJ run).

by the_mad_nader on Jul 2, 2009 7:02 PM PDT reply actions  

No Mention

of player styles? Penetration vs. hanging out on the 3 point line. Seems at least worth bringing up.

by LameR on Jul 2, 2009 9:55 PM PDT reply actions  

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