Bayless is not a point guard. The sooner we realize that, the better.

Jerryd insists point guard is his natural position when he has to think too hard in order to make it work? Is it because he WANTS to be a point guard rather than a 2 and thinks by stating it is his natural position that he can make it happen?

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Have you seen any other teams with this level of coverage down there, or even close to it?

Jerryd is just not a PG and no amount of training is going to make it other-wise.

Did you see Pooh in the last game? He’s a borderline NBAer and he ran the point they way you should. Good chemistry, looking to get the team involved, drive to the hole when you can’t (although he missed at the rim).

Jerryd is just this attacker who throws the the ball “at” you not “to” you. It’s not a pass that leads you into your offensive move, it’s a pass that leaves you reacting as a player – not asserting your next offensive move. It doesn’t give you confidence, it gives you pause to gather yourself.

The fact that Chad Buchanan thinks Bayless is “a year or two away” is just another reason why Blake should be our backup. We need to pickup a better starter.

I like Bayless as a person. But as a player he reminds me a little bit of a Nate Robinson. He’s just not there enough yet as a distributor. He can score, but we don’t need a scoring point guard. I’m not sure this team can afford to wait two years for Bayless to POSSIBLY work out. Does he have upside? Sure. Are you willing to hold onto him and hope he turns into the point guard we NEED down the road? Or is he more valuable as a trade assset right now? I believe Bayless is expendable, provided we could pickup a quality starter to replace Blake. I’m just not sold on Jerryd as one of our rotation guys standing on the podium after we won the NBA Finals.

…while he has some stock. Gavin Dawson has is right. If we can use him as a strong piece in a trade right now based upon positive perception by other teams you have to pull the trigger! Right now that is the only value Bayless holds to the Blazers, cause I just don’t see anything helpful to this team unless he raises his FG% up to the mid 40’s, proving he can score consistantly in the NBA, and lowers his TO’s.

period

In a way it sounded like he wanted bayless to be a good player. “he really tries” was said many times implying that he’s trying but he’s not there and he’s pretty far from being there.

That was my take.

I hear JB has a good shot in college, but man his shot on open jumpers was horrible. I saw one that looked like Rodman’s jumpers. If he’s got game, I haven’t seen it. I like him and I wish him well. I like how he’s been a pro. Looks like we will se, and mayge a lot of minutes will be the big difference.

I like not signing a free agent to a huge conrtact. I like the guys we have, I think they will develop. We’re doing damn good as it is. We have rookies second year improvements to look foreward to, Webster returning is like aquiring a free agent anyhow. We’re flexible now for when the right thing comes along. And that has to be value, we are going to have to pay who allready have big.

Yeah. He’s still finding a balance of being an attacker but also getting a flow going for our team on the floor and that’s the point guard’s responsibility. Unless you have a big point forward out there who can do that for you.

Hedo anyone? I bet Chad was in the camp ready to sign him up…

I think Jerryd’s mentality is he wants to come in and play. I don’t think whether he starts or comes off the bench or whatever, I don’t think that’s really important to him. He just wants to play. Steve is such a steady influence on the floor and we’ve got a comfort level with him, he has a comfort level with Nate and our coaches, he plays well off of Brandon. Jerryd for us his value would be coming off the bench and being a spark for us. Steve and him are such different point guards, different players. For Jerryd it’s a matter of finding which lineup meshes well to maximize his talents — Nate and our coaching staff are trying to figure that out.

This is basically the political answer for “no effing way Bayless starts this year, are you nuts?”. I like Bayless, sounds like he works really hard, but boy he has a long way to go. He really would have been more valuable if we got a guy like Hedo to take some of the load off him playmaking wise. As it stands now, he needs to get better, a lot better. He still makes me nervous as a #2 pg, injuries happen…

lol @ threads like this. Gawd.

To upper left corner:

1. So, you’re saying Bayless’ ability in high school at PG translates into his ability to play that position in the NBA? Was he recruited by Arizona to play point guard? Because it seems to me that they had him playing the 2 there. If he was such a tremendous asset at point, why wasn’t be playing that position in college. I mean Christ, here is his scouting report OUT OF COLLEGE:

Weaknesses: Jerryd Bayless must become better at running the PG position … More of a scoring point, but Jerryd Bayless PG abilities are improving … Jerryd Bayless can be prone to trying to do too much, must be more patient and composed.

2. You’re right, he’s a tweener. But he still hasn’t shown me last year or in summer league that he can DEFEND AT ALL. Did he win any awards in college for his defense? Do you remember one single time when they brought him in to cover a quicker PG? How about last year during the playoffs. Did you ever ONE SINGLE TIME see him subbed in to guard Aaron Brooks? Why not? Brooks is lightning fast. Wouldn’t you think if Bayless’ defense and ability to guard the 1 were highly valued, he would have seen more minutes vs. Houston? Really think about that.

3. I don’t feel comfortable trusting Bayless RIGHT NOW. That’s really it. His decision making, passing and everything in between are very raw. Can he score? Sure. But how soon could he be a Hinrich type of guy? Because thats what Portland needs in the next 1-2 years, not 3 years down the road.

you forgot to include the questions where you ask if Jerryd is seeing anyone?… has he mentioned you?… did he notice you staring at him in the gym?… Would Chad pass him this note you wrote?
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You know, since you have to stay 150ft away at all times

One is the fact that today’s fan wants his team to win now and has no patience to sit around waiting for the players and team to mesh. Championship teams are never brought together in a year or two (2008 Celtics being the exception to the rule), yet the patience of the today’s fan is that of a kid asking “are we there yet?” on a road trip to Disney Land.

The other is the fact that 75% of lottery players are drafted based on their projected potential rather than their ability to produce from day 1. Lebron James, Chris Paul and Derrick Rose are not your average players. Almost all Point guards in particular need at least a 3 years to get a feel for their position as it relates to the speed and size of the NBA game.

  Nobody knows if Jerryd Bayless will be an effective PG in the league, this has yet to be determined. One thing is for sure though, he is not happy with simply being a Millionaire and being able to take care of his family. He is not satisfied by having 5 cars in his garage and flying on private jets. He is obviously not motivated by the money, but rather the chance to be the best basketball player that he can be and to prove all of his doubters wrong.

  If you gather one thing from these quotes it should be that nobody wants it more than Jerryd. The dude is 20 and is raw and may never be able to slow down his vision of the court enough to be an effective PG, but you damn well better believe that when he does get there, when he does settle down the nerves and start reacting rather than thinking about his next move then you will want this guy on your team.

Project. high potential. low downsize. Why the haterade?

like he did last summer league. It’s a must have for good point guards.

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So it certainly could be all on his teammates – but the Bayless PG experience seems to be pretty rough tonight.

is no play. He is predictable. It’s set up at the top, put his head down and charge to the rim.

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with the buzzer beater

which is all that really worried me.

Bayless doesn’t seem inherently selfish. In other words, even if Bayless never becomes a “true” PG he’s not going to kill the ball movement like some other combos would. If he can hit the jumper and defend, then just let Roy run the offense and call it a day.

He’s also just 20 years old and he’s being asked to do a million more things than Batum ever was.