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Scouting Report: Jeff Pendergraph

Blazers scout Chad Buchanan was nice enough to spend the first half of this afternoon's Rockets vs. Lakers game dropping knowledge to Blazersedge.  Our conversation will run in a series of four posts.

Here's a link to part one, a scouting report for Dante Cunningham. This is part two: a full scouting breakdown of Blazers rookie Jeff Pendergraph

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Blazersedge: With Jeff, the thing that stood out yesterday is that he's a little mechanical but he attacks the rim when he has the ball, there's no second thoughts. I think people got on Channing for thinking too much; Jeff doesn't seem like he has that problem.

Jeff is mechanical, robotic.  Those are the words everyone says when they see him. He does play that way. He's a very programmed player. Part of that is his coaching -- Herb Sendek is a very old school, fundamentals, on balance, taking care of the ball, taking good shots, that's the way he's been taught, that's the way he still plays. And that's a good thing. 

He doesn't take a lot of risks when he's got the ball in his hands, he takes open shots when he should take them, he doesn't try to put it on the deck, he sets good screens, he's going to make the right pass. He's never going to be a guy that you throw it to on the block and he gives you a lot of offense. I think he's done a good job here of accepting the role of being the antagonizer on the floor. Not backing down from guys, our team needs a little more of that. We need some guys to go out there and do the dirty stuff. I don't think Jeff judges how he plays by how many points or rebounds he gets, he judges it like, "tell me one thing you want me to do and I'll do it." He doesn't care if he doesn't touch the ball, he is happy to set screens.

He needs to get better rebounding the ball on both ends. At Arizona State he played only in zones and he was given an area to rebound and don't worry anything else other than that. For him he's got to go get stuff out of his area. He's got to go track down balls he's not used to trying to go after. I thought he did a great job yesterday of battling Joey Dorsey. That's a strong dude.

Blazersedge: He was laughing about it too.

Jeff's one of those guys who either didn't realize who he was messing with or he's a legitimately tough guy. [laughs]

He's just so happy to be a part of our team right now. He would run through a wall for Nate. Whatever we ask him to do he would be glad to do.

Blazersedge: Did he get the short end of the stick in Summer League because he's playing 5 instead of playing the 4?

I think he's going to have to play 5 on our level. I think there's some 4s that are going to be really hard matchups for him. Guys who can take him away from the basket will be a hard matchup for him. His lateral quickness guarding the ball is not a strength of his right now. You couldn't see that last night because he could just lean on Joey Dorsey, he does a good job getting low with a strong base. You take him away from the basket and the quick moves are hard for him.

He's a guy that will have to play a lot of five for us. There are going to be some fives that are too big for him to guard. All the backups and third string 5s in our league -- he will be fine against those guys. He's not capable of guarding Dwight Howard or Yao Ming or someone like that.

He's going to be a really good guy off our bench. He has a great attitude, he's constantly showing positive energy and that's a value for us. Teams in our league, good teams in our league have benches in our league that are into the game. I thought at times last year we didn't have that. We need that.  Especially on the road, you need to see your bench over there when you're on the floor. I think Jeff has an amazing personality, he'll be ready to play when he gets the opportunity.

Blazersedge: He seems like the biggest personality on the team.

He is. He's a loose guy, a very intelligent guy, he has a lot of interests outside basketball, very well-spoken, understands how lucky he is. Understands the opportunity he has in front of him. He's going to do everything he can to take full advantage of it. 

Blazersedge: When he was coming up was he a highly regarded prospect? Was he off the radar?

His freshman year, if you think he's robotic now, he was really robotic then.

He's filled out physically over the course of his four year career. He came in without an identity as a player at ASU and then really got great coaching and figured out what role was for him.  

Then he got a chance to play with a great guard in James Harden. James got him a lot of easy opportunities offensively. He's going to need that if he wants to score on our level he's going to need to have guards that can get his offense for him. Hopefully he'll have some guys on our team who can help him out like that.

At least he's a guy when defending him, you've got to honor him because he can shoot it.. Guys like Joey Dorsey, for example, can't shoot it, so guys don't have to guard him. With Jeff, you've got to at least respect his shot and that creates opportunities for other guys because his man can't protect the basket or clog the lane.

He's progressed a lot in four years.

Do you think his perspective on his role on an NBA roster was shaped by the fact that he really had to work hard for what he has right now? The fact that he wasn't as highly regarded, the fact that he was off the radar.

He wants to help us win. That's what he wants to do. It's not about him. It's not about anything other than "how can I help the team?" He has that mentality of "give me an opportunity."  

In college, he was about doing everything to win. He was on ASU's recruiting team. He was about winning, never about the stats.

If you're a 4 year guy sometimes you have trouble playing with talented underclassmen like James Harden, who's getting all these accolades. That can be hard for seniors. Jeff was all about the team, he didn't care if it was some freshman or sophomore getting all the credit, it didn't bother him one bit.  

I like the way you put it -- he's coming into the league with that mindset. That's what's going to help him understand that if he's not playing for a 10 game stretch but he's helping the team in practice or on the bench, that's still important.

He just wants to be a part of it. 

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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Thank you, Ben!

For giving me my late-night Blazer Sedge fix.

Although I might be cursing you tomorrow morning while I struggle to get through work with eyes that look like shattered Christmas tree ornaments.

Until then, make mine Blazer Sedge!

by BlazerTag on Jul 16, 2009 11:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He's going to play five?

…Not sure I can see him handling that task proficiently.

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by Dheepan on Jul 17, 2009 12:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

nor I

wow, did anyone ever watch him at ASU?

by truk on Jul 17, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nate....

When he watched his son. Good enough for me, thanks Ben. :)

by FrenchieFan on Jul 17, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he’s going to have to play 5 on our level.

Curious.

Ben, this is some of the best stuff on Blazersedge I’ve read. It’s cool to look inside a scout’s eyes, to hear the thought process. Can’t wait for the Bayless piece.

life is better as an optimist

by Cablinasian on Jul 17, 2009 12:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ugh, I made the same mistake twice.

Shelden Williams is a prime example of a 5 in the NCAA who couldn’t transition to being a 5 in the NBA due to many reasons. At first, I thought otherwise; yet, in the end, I was proven wrong.

I learned my lesson, though, but it seems that Kevin Pritchard is too foolish to know his own limits. Even as an amateur talent evaluator, I know Pendergraph will either succeed as a 4 or fail as a 5. If he’s a 5 to the front office, though, then this is bad news from the get-go. A third-string 5 on this ballclub should look like Rasho Nesterovic rather than some rookie who’s converting from one frontline position to another.

Man, the folks in middle management don’t seeminglky comprehend one thing about roster construction. That upsets me, too, but I can’t do anything about it.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Jul 17, 2009 2:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see how it's a problem.

He’s a backup. Carrying three prototypical seven foot centers on this roster would be a little superfluous and silly. Nesterovic made about 8.5 million last year. Throwing tons of money away on a third string legit center is a really dumb idea. Filling the spot with a cheap backup 4/5 is a really good idea.

Who exactly is going to be giving Pendergraph trouble at the five? There are like a billion centers he matches up against just fine.

Jason Maxiel, Al Jefferson, Brandon Bass, Al Horford, Chuck Hayes, Kevin Love, David Lee, Matt Bonner, Spencer Hawes, Brandon Bass, Nick Collison, Ronny Turiaf, Andris Biedrins, Hilton Armstrong, Chris Anderson, Joakim Noah, Channing Frye, Robin Lopez, Jeff Foster, Dan Gadzuric.

Man, the folks in middle management don’t seeminglky comprehend one thing about roster construction.

I know right? All my fantasy roster construction totally trumps any experience those guys have. Bunch of amateurs.

by Nick Van Excellent on Jul 17, 2009 6:44 AM PDT up reply actions   4 recs

Shelden Williams was a high lotto pick

TOTALLY different level of analysis here. No one ever expects Pendergraph to supplant Joel or Greg. He will play 5-10 minutes at most guarding guys like Pops-Mensa-Bonsu, Adonal Foyle, or Aaron Gray.

Look, how many 3rd string centers are both a true C and also not a stiff?

Pendy is undersized, but not as much for a 3rd 5. Pendy is quick for a 3rd 5.

You’re getting awfully worked up about a garbage time player. Pendy will quote: “run through a wall for Nate MacMillan.” The Spurs model is to get your big 3 and then surround them with guys who will run through a wall to win. If Pendergraph becomes Oberto, we’re doing pretty good.

It seems that there may be an over reliance here on weak inductive reasoning.

Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash

by HurraKane212 on Jul 17, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm almost surprised they give you all this.

Other teams don’t need to hire NBA scouts any more. Just read the Sedge.

Keep in mind that everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazers Edge.

by pualo on Jul 17, 2009 1:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Other teams are already one step ahead of you

They’re starting to lay-off their advance scouts.

by BlazerTag on Jul 17, 2009 3:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like he will be our designated practice body, gatorade guard and happy towel waiver

That’s too bad. I hope he can show more than that.

Regarding his position, using him as a third center sounds indeed a bit surprising. Maybe he would be helpless against highly mobile PFs that draw him outside and then shoot over him or drive past him like Dirk or maybe Scola. But he seems ideal against guys like Chuck Hayes, Solomon Jones, Reggie Evans who live around the paint. More so than as a 6’10’’ center, especially if like Chad says he isn’t used to anticipating rebounds outside of his “zone”. Good luck catching those against many guys who are 30 pounds heavier and at least as tall blocking him out.

DraftExpress has him as PF/C in college, NBA: PF, Possible: PF
NBADraft also sees him as a PF and compares him to Udonis Haslem/Mikki Moore

But maybe they see a trend and the typical backup centers in the NBA are also becoming smaller and more “PF-like”, so he can swing over there to play against players like Oberto, Maxiell, Boone, Armstrong, Collison, etc.

by Norsktroll on Jul 17, 2009 3:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they see a trend toward small ball

play by the bench. Having an undersized center off the bench is ideal if you plan on playing tall ball with the first string, then bringing in guys off the bench to run at ‘em. I’m not opposed to the idea at all, and I have no doubt that Chad knows exactly what he is talking about.

by ducklaw on Jul 17, 2009 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice work Ben

Thanks to you and Mr. Buchanan.

by tominhawaii on Jul 17, 2009 8:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't see the problem playing him at center...

It’s not as if he said Pendergraph would only be a center. Buchanan’s thoughts were that Pendergraph’s defensive abilities are better suited against centers than some of the smaller face up PFs in the league, that he’s better off not having to go out from the basket to guard his man. He also implies that Pendergraph might just be a all around “tough guy”, it’s not as if there’s never been an effective 6’10" center in the league.

by Bryan72076 on Jul 17, 2009 8:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dropping knowledge

If I never hear or read that phrase again it will be too soon. Ugh.

by tiesque on Jul 17, 2009 8:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

victim of a knowledge bomb?

having flashbacks to that day when information rained down on an unsuspecting skull like an ArcLight air strike?

Come on you gotta listen unto me,
lay off that whiskey and let that cocaine be. ~Johnny Cash

by HurraKane212 on Jul 17, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One thing that really stood out to me

was that he was very good at keeping the ball high. Maybe he can show that trick to Greg Oden.

sorry Greg, I love you, but C’mon with that bringing the ball to your knees garbage that you are so fond of.

Life is exhausting when you are this stupid.

I will talk about DeJuan Blair no more forever

by jonestr on Jul 17, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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