Utah Radio Reports Jazz Will Match Millsap
by Ben Golliver on Jul 16, 2009 4:20 PM PDT
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PrintThe Utah Jazz will reportedly match the Portland Trail Blazers' offer sheet on Paul Millsap.
Here's your link to SLC Dunk. Original report comes from 1320 KFAN, The Jazz's flagship station.
Update: 4:45PM... Ross Siler of the Salt Lake Tribune confirms.
A day ahead of the deadline to do so, the Jazz decided they will keep Paul Millsap by matching the four-year, $32 million offer sheet the restricted free agent forward signed with Portland, a source close to the team said Thursday.
The Jazz's move was widely expected, although they must make a $10.3 million upfront payment to Millsap under the terms of the offer sheet he signed with the Trail Blazers last Friday.
-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)
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KP just knocked a domino over, hoping that it would catch something else on the way down. Will more begin to fall? I dunno, I guess we’ll see.
life is better as an optimist
Good analogy.
Milsap better be eternally grateful to the Blazers for this huge pay day.
I think it’s for the best. I didn’t like the thought of two high end PF’s competing for minutes. It was easy to envision someone ending up unhappy.
Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave
Also: COMCAST SUCKS!
At least we don't have to wait until tomorrow night to find out now.
μὴ φοβοῦ, μόνον πίστευε.
by T Darkstar on Jul 16, 2009 4:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
next domino: Boozer trade
no indications that OKC will facilitate, but Memphis looks ready to jump in again. If that happens, take them off the list of cap space teams.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
OKC is still there, just waiting to one-up us with their cap space and unguaranteed contracts.
life is better as an optimist
yeah, that's my fear too
if you look at the tally sheet, they have 2 of 3 on us:
1) amount of space – OKC 11, Portland 7.7
2) unguaranteed contracts – OKC
3) young talent on cheap contracts – Portland (Rudy, Batum, Bayless)
4) Expring 2010 contracts – call it a push once you factor out the unguaranteed ones
So the only way we can out-offer them is if we are wiling to part with one of the young three, and the team(s) involved want them.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Yea, but do they want to give long term contract worth $14+ million to Boozer?
Or else they are just spending a lot of money for one season. Maybe if the Jazz trade the NY pick, but then they would have absolutely no future in the next few years.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
it's not about OKC taking Boozer
it’s about OKC being the biggest threat we have to being a capspace absorber in any 3-team salary dump deal, whether it be Boozer or someone else later.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
not sure about that
OKC has two first round picks. They are a younger team. Cheaper owner. They will improve but don’t have aspirations of being a contender next year. They are a risk. But I think OKC wants to be the last team with real cap space left. I think they would love for Portland to make a move first. Whatever the move.
I think they are in a fantastic position. I think they want the draft picks and the cap space coming into draft night. At the very least they are willing to make a major move at the trade deadline. Portland does not want to have to be in that position.
I'm not sure this precipitates trading Boozer, but it makes it a lot more palatable
Trading Boozer wouldn’t be about the money unless Utah includes PDX or OKC in any deal. Otherwise, it’s just about roster balance and jettisoning a player that no longer wants to be there….
by blacknoiseNW on Jul 16, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Trading Boozer is absolutely about the money...
Which is why Portland, OKC (Said to be disinterested), Memphis (Doubtful after Z-Bo trade) or Sacramento (Doubtful because of poor revenue) has to be involved.
Tony Bennett reports that Minnesota and Portland are swapping draft picks -- Roy to Portland, Foye to Minnesota. That's it? That's the trade? None of the ESPN guys seem remotely fazed. I knew Kevin McHale couldn't just pick the best guy in the draft without somehow screwing it up. I would have bet my Ndudi Ebi rookie cards on it.
by Salem Stephen on Jul 16, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
That, and because Chris Wallace clearly doesn't know any better.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
by LeafHawk on Jul 16, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
NYC draft pick
Utah has NYC’s first rounder next year. Given how New York looks right now. That thing could be solid gold. If Memphis can help facilitate something and pick up an asset like that its a great move.
Or Chris Wallace does it because he is a dolt.
Can they afford to be?
While Memphis does have the capspace, like Sacramento, they have terrible revenue problems. After taking on Z-Bo, involving themselves in this trade would put them near the cap on a team with one of the worst attendances in the NBA and an owner who is not interested in taking huge financial losses.
Tony Bennett reports that Minnesota and Portland are swapping draft picks -- Roy to Portland, Foye to Minnesota. That's it? That's the trade? None of the ESPN guys seem remotely fazed. I knew Kevin McHale couldn't just pick the best guy in the draft without somehow screwing it up. I would have bet my Ndudi Ebi rookie cards on it.
by Salem Stephen on Jul 16, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
they will get enough cash and draft picks to make it worth their while.
life is better as an optimist
Here's my idea.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mwqshc
On a side note, the Memphis Grizzlies haven’t yet officially traded for Zach Randolph.
Stupid people have stupid ideas.
couple more days, once Stackouse clears waivers
so add 7.3 million to Memphis’ current cap, which leaves them with only about 6.5 in room.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
they would get paid enough cash to offset their involvement
just like they did in the 4-way deal.
Memphis can’t/won’t absorb enough contract to allow Utah to take back nothing, but they can absorb up to 3 million and have it completely paid, which would cut 6 million off of Utah’s bill, while still allowing Utah to take back a decent player making 4-6 million.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
not saying it's likely
but it is possible. The scenarios for them are essentially either to take back NOTHING and get JUST under the tax line, or take back substantially less than the tax and save some money but still get a player back
Some reports out of Utah are saying that they absolutely want to get SOME talent back for Boozer, and are willing to eat a tax hit for 1 year. If this is the case, then dumping 3-5 million on Memphis and taking back 4-6 million is a possible approach
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
If they are talking about Haslem
Might as well just dump Boozer instead of taking on Haslem.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
agree with that, but they have to find someone to dump 10 million salary on
memphis can’t take that much, OKC doesn’t appear to want to, and Utah doesn’t want to include us (right now)
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
If teams with cap space are involved in the trade - then it is about money
however, we have all been led to believe that Utah could survive the season with Boozer on the roster (and cover Millsap)
by blacknoiseNW on Jul 16, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
If Memphis jumps in to facilitate a trade
merely to take us out of the trade talks…. then we can remove them from the list of teams with cap room… and add them to our HIT LIST!
Big D from Blog-A-Bull - "Pritchard is such a genius that teams just give him players for free."
Greg Oden - The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 400 rebounds, and 65 blocks in under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jul 16, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions
My thoughts exactly.
Maybe we should start talking about the batchelorette finale instead of this. It might be less drama
OLP is the best thing Canada has given the world outside of maple syrup
by SuperDave on Jul 16, 2009 6:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
on the plus side, Utah will not have both Millsap and Boozer this year. That makes them weaker.
life is better as an optimist
Jazz are screwed for the next 2 seasons for sure.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
Teams With Cap Space
Portland
Memphis
OKC
Is that it?
Does SAR still count against their cap?
Or else they don’t have cap space.
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
If Petrie can convince Utah
to take Kenny Thomas and $4 million in savings (double that to include tax payments), the Kings would have a steal….
The thing I would point to there is the Maloof money issues. They have been rumored to be hesitant to take on any kind of salary.
life is better as an optimist
They only take on $4 million more this year
to upgrade from Thomas to Boozer. I’d say they might be willing to do it as a one year rental to let Thompson develop further before expecting him to start.
$4 million is real money
Why not just let Thompson play the most minutes?
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
it's not like they are gonna win anyway, right?
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Portland
Out of all the teams, Portland probably have the largest cap space.
We would have more
If it weren’t for Darius Miles…
"Everyone knows who you are; but only your friends know why."
- Rich Amato
OKC has more
8.7 million with the ability to add about 4 more
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
maybe
they’ve been pretty coy about there intentions really. besides, if they take back expiring deals, they will still have it in 2010, plus their already-on-the-roster expirings.
If people think free agents don’t want to come to play in Portland, do they really think they are going to sign on to go play in Oklahoma?
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
Just Think
If Miles’ contract does not count, we would of been sitting on some $18 million in cap space.
Disappointed, but not surprised.
I’m probably in the minority here, but my next move if I’m KP is to try to get Lamar Odom here.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
I have a looming feeling
that it’s a little late to try to grab Odom. I’m thinking he’ll play in Miami next season.
"Everyone knows who you are; but only your friends know why."
- Rich Amato
When Boozer is traded and Portland isn't a part of the deal...
The chorus can commence. I most liked the deal because it forced Utah to work with Portland on a three team trade.
Tony Bennett reports that Minnesota and Portland are swapping draft picks -- Roy to Portland, Foye to Minnesota. That's it? That's the trade? None of the ESPN guys seem remotely fazed. I knew Kevin McHale couldn't just pick the best guy in the draft without somehow screwing it up. I would have bet my Ndudi Ebi rookie cards on it.
by Salem Stephen on Jul 16, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
don't despair if that happens
just eliminates another team who can facilitate an in-season salary dump.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
I agree douglast
The masterful use of the cap space to flog Utah is no failure. This week we are exactly where we were last week but a division rival just got weaker. There may be more such moves ahead as KP forces teams to pay more than they want to keep their RFA’s or FA’s.
Each move makes a rival weaker. Is there any doubt that Toronto is not going to be in the NBA finals with Hedon’t? Then they do not hurt us. Toronto down. Utah down. I don’t know what moves KP has yet to make but this ride is getting more and more interesting. As you say we may go all the way to February and many of us wanted to stand pat all along so even then we will be fine.
by lee3022 on Jul 16, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also the lets see how Martell's foot heals up aspect
Makes it dumb to be in HURRY HURRY HURRY we need to make a trade TODAY frame of mind.
by southern oregon on Jul 16, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll come clean
I predicted boldly that they wouldn’t match. I was wrong. Please put the cone of shame on me and force me to spend time with the short mailman…..
by Storyteller on Jul 16, 2009 4:31 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
UP reference
I have just met you and I love you.
"Everyone knows who you are; but only your friends know why."
- Rich Amato
LOL
I think we can forgive you since you are always there to chime in with the correct CBA type stuff. And your site is pretty dang useful as well…
The Bedger formally known as ????????
i heard...
Utah has asked the league for a one day extension to match the Blazers’ offer…
Looks like I might actually have to read the article from SLC now…
Blazers win!
by The X-man on Jul 16, 2009 4:38 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Channel 8 News in Portland reported that Utah would have to take out a loan to cover Millsap
The Salt Lake Tribune apparently confirms that (via Fantasy NBA Zone)
2. Get a Loan
According to the Salt Lake Tribune, the Utah Jazz could be receiving a short-term bank loan to pay for the immediate payments owed to Millsap with his new hefty contract.
The loan would enable the Jazz to re-sign Millsap which is certainly their top priority during this nerve-racking week.
by blacknoiseNW on Jul 16, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
What a great TIME for that news, it gives me an idea to take care of business. ;)
by Funny how it goes. on Jul 16, 2009 4:40 PM PDT reply actions
Offseason=Epic Fail?
…or maybe just freakin BORING!!!!
repost from fanshot***
Big D from Blog-A-Bull - "Pritchard is such a genius that teams just give him players for free."
Greg Oden - The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 400 rebounds, and 65 blocks in under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jul 16, 2009 4:43 PM PDT reply actions
Nope.
They would have gone after the unrestricted Odom before the restricted Milsap if they wanted Odom.
What are the chances of a Boozer trade being sorted out this summer?
Will the Jazz wait until the trade deadline to hold out for the best deal? Or will they make swift trades to rid of a Boozer hangover coming into the season?
"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith
I think the latter...
But hard to say. Doesn’t seem like they are getting great offers so far…
I would think...
that Jerry Sloan would be pushing to move him as soon as possible. He’s a poison pill on that team come gametime.
by LicketyBrindle on Jul 16, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
75% he's gone by training camp
they won’t rush to move him now in a bad deal, but they will push hard to do so by camp. Rolling into the season with him on the block will be way too much distraction, and everyone knows it.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
they're both 4s, right?
so who do you start?
by LicketyBrindle on Jul 16, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
they would start boozer if he's still there
Paul is getting big time paid, and they have already committed to him as the long-term answer. He’s a team player and will suck it up for half a season (or even the full season). Boozer on the other hand would cause MAJOR problems if he’s on the bench
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
My only question is
why did Utah wait so long? They said they were going to, why did it take them five days to make it official? If I were Millsap, I wouldn’t be too happy.
Enough with the epic fail talk. This was a win-win. Even if Utah manages a trade with someone else, that reduces the number of teams left with salary cap. Our trade may not happen until the trade deadline – when some team decides it’s time to cut its losses – but it will happen.
And it will be sweet.
What I meant by that
was so far nothing has been done… AT ALL. I was leaning toward the latter of the two, but was curious on other opinions.
Big D from Blog-A-Bull - "Pritchard is such a genius that teams just give him players for free."
Greg Oden - The only other rookie with more than 500 points, 400 rebounds, and 65 blocks in under 1400 minutes played. Since 1946
by FiveOhThree-RipCity!! on Jul 16, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
nothing?
-traded Sergio.
-drafted a backup PF, SF, and PG.
-made a competitive offer to Turkoglu
-tried to work a 3 way trade with Chicago & Utah
-signed an offer sheet with Millsap
-put Utah in a tight spot
-tried to work a 3 way trade with Detroit & Utah
yeah, none of it panned out. but KP et al aren’t exactly sitting back and waiting for the deals to come to them.
Here’s some stuff that could’ve happened:
-drafted a guy with a balky knee who never amounts to much in the NBA.
-gave an aging, overrated small forward $12 million to come off the bench two years from now
-gave away a future star (Bayless, Batum, Fernandez) in a desperate attempt to make a trade work.
Sometimes “getting nothing done” is the smart move.
by LicketyBrindle on Jul 16, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
+1
agreed…KP is doing fine in my book. Not sure what the hub-bub is about.
I have my P.h.D in unreliable hyperbole.
by Eat Politicians on Jul 16, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
In the “I gotta have it now” type society, people need to understand exactly where this team stands. We are just fine. If we have to wait until February to make a good move then that’s ok. Something about Rome, a day, and built?
Yep. Sign of a lousy team.
One that doesn’t make all sorts of trades and free agent signings just to keep fans from being bored …. IN THE OFF SEASON.
To all the bored, disappointed Blazer fans this summer – considered going fishing, or taking the kids camping, or going for a hike or a concert at the zoo. It is the PNW. Not like there isn’t anything to do during the summer.
hakkaa päälle !
Maybe to come up with the money upfront?
Maybe they just wanted to screw with the team that is screwing with them? Who knows…
The Bedger formally known as ????????
teams ALWAYS wait the full time to match on RFAs
It’s just smart – you tie up a competitor’s money for a week, get plenty of time to consider all ramification of matching or not matching, as well as work the phones for other trades or free agents that may impact your decision to match or not.
Plus, in this case, their was the up front money. May as well hold off as long as possible on having to write that check.
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
You sir are an optimist
Where as I am a pessimistic realist/elitist.
The summer isn’t a fail. The weather has been AMAZING.
OLP is the best thing Canada has given the world outside of maple syrup
by SuperDave on Jul 16, 2009 6:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Millsap, Hedo, and Brandon Bass are really thankful for our cap space.
life is better as an optimist
especially the first two
methinks Bass could have gotten more on his deal if he waited out the Millsapp match. Wouldn’t we be offering him 4 and 24 right now?
How did you guys win that?
"We scored enough points. We scored 107, they scored 105.
-Nate McMillan Postgame, 3/4/2009
I think Bass will start at the 4 in Orlando
With Lewis sliding to the 3 and VC at the 2
The NBA: Where amazingly bad officiating happens, is encouraged, and rewarded.
So while it didn't work out
And I don’t think we will be involved in the Boozer deal (most likely Memphis I think), at least we get a while to figure out what we really have. Maybe something will happen at the trade deadline. Whatever, I am happy with the team we have, provided we see improvement out of Greg, Rudy and Batum. Also I think if Bayless doesn’t make enough strides during summer to be point, we just play him to his strengths which would be instant offense off the bench.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
we need one more point guard
whether a starting vet, a backup, or a 3rd stringer. Just terrifies me to think of Bayless right now if Blake got hurt, and then giving the backup to someone who doesn’t practice at running the plays
by Tyler Durrden on Jul 16, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
And a PF
To back up LaMarcus (sorry, I don’t trust a rookie).
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
we could get boozer
and just send him to the d-league. Bring him up if we get into trouble
by Tyler Durrden on Jul 16, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Send boozer to the D-League?
I am not sure he would go there.
I hope I can get a bunch of championships, like 15. " - Greg Oden
why not, if he's under contract. Apologies however for the sarcasm
by Tyler Durrden on Jul 16, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Boozer can't go to D-league
I think it has to be younger players
"My avatar picture is of the favorite vehicle I ever owned" -Me
by 92wastheyear on Jul 16, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
It would be nice to get at least a third stringer in case of injury. There has to be some aging vet (like Anthony Johnson) who is available.
"I saw him in the face" Sergio's quote on the latest alley-oop to Rudy.
by blazermaniac32 on Jul 16, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
So I'm thinking (and hoping)
that by the end of next year, nearly all of us will be thankful that none of our suggested (or KP attempted) moves took place. Here’s to hoping that letting the scotch…..I mean the Blazers…mature another year will be just what the doctor ordered.
"I'm a man, but I can change.....if I have to......I guess." - Red Green
WE'll still make some moves
But in the very least we locked up Utah from being good for a while.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I still think
Marvin Williams would work. Esp if Atlanta bit the financial bullet and took Outlaw as a partial trade. Marvin comes back to the NW and Trout goes back near home.
Another waste of time
It sure was nice of KP to get Milsap his money up front. How much time and resources
were wasted in this long shot move? Call it a summer after you get Roy and Aldridge
signed.
Hmm. How about this story?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-odomboozer071509&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
answer to the age-old question
What do you do if you have two conflicting leads on a story? Publish them both, in one story. – Elgin
Without you out there, we're nowhere here
No not a waste of time
KP kills two birds with one stone and gets the stone back!
Utah is seriously in luxury tax
Utah has to trade Boozer or struggle financially
If Boozer is traded another team will have to eat some cap (not much left)
KP still has his stone.
The bright side is that we don't have to pay for Millsap and we drive the price up so high Utah got owned.
Bad news is that Blazers wasted a week waiting.
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