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I can't be the only one that feels this way: going to Utah newspaper websites is like entering a portal to a different galaxy, a happy land where NBA executives still give quotes to beat writers from the golf course, men are named Jody, and John Stockton is the gold standard to which every player, seemingly regardless of position or skill, is held.  Who do we have to thank for this magical journey into SLC?  

Paul Millsap, of course.

In case you missed it this weekend...

The bigggest misconception floating right now is that the Blazers' offer forces Utah to make an immediate decision between Carlos Boozer and Millsap.  Of couse that's what's floating here in Portland because Portland stands to benefit the most in that situation.  Some are stretching that further to say that if Utah decides on Millsap, they must trade Boozer this week before the offer sheet deadline.  Some perspective: Jazz management was so panicked by Portland's "toxic offer" that rather than working the phones around the clock to move Boozer they spent the weekend dinking and doinking at a charity golf tournament. 

The most important question facing Jazz ownership in the short term is whether they value Paul Millsap at a heavily front-loaded 4 years/ $32 million.  Most likely they do.  If that's the case, matching would seem a no-brainer. There is nothing except money preventing the Jazz from carrying both players this summer and beyond. It might be painful to cut that big check up-front (and luxury tax checks down the road) but odds are they get it done. The Jazz knew they were going to have to pay him.

Ken BergerCBS Sports...

One interesting aspect of this tale is the fact that Utah is in better financial shape to match Millsap's signing bonus than was originally assumed. The maximum signing bonus that can be included in an offer sheet is 17.5 percent of the total contract -- in this case, $5.6 million. Many NBA teams would have trouble writing a check that big without borrowing the money, but Utah, according to NBA front office sources, isn't one of them. The team's only debt is a small amount owed on its arena, so paying Millsap a signing bonus would be "a non-event for them," according to one of the sources.

...

If the Jazz decide to venture deep into tax territory by matching the Millsap offer, they would have a few months to find the best deal for Boozer. They wouldn't be locked into a tax level until the February trade deadline, when they might get better offers from teams eager to clear 2010-11 cap space by acquiring Boozer's expiring contract. But their leverage also might diminish because teams would know they were desperate to shed tax money. 

From the Blazers' standpoint, it's not clear what their options would be if Utah matched the offer sheet. Portland has between $7.7 million and $9 million in cap space, which was preserved when Hedo Turkoglu backed out of his verbal agreement and signed with the Raptors. If the Blazers don't use that money this season, it won't be available next summer because they will have to use it to sign Brandon Roy and Aldridge to extensions.    

Ross SilerSalt Lake Tribune...

This is just my interpretation of what was said Saturday, but Jazz general manager Kevin O'Connor made three comments that suggested the team was inclined to match the four-year, $32 million offer sheet Paul Millsap signed with Portland.

O'Connor has vowed to match any offer to Millsap that isn't in the realm of the "really outrageous." His comments Saturday seemed to suggest that an $8 million a year offer by the Trail Blazers doesn't fit that definition.

First of all, talking about following through on the pledge to match, O'Connor mentioned "it might be a little different" if Millsap had been offered $11 million or $12 million a season.    

Ross SilerSalt Lake Tribune...

According to sources, Boozer was told by Miller that the franchise was going in a different direction, with Boozer saying he could respect the decision but hoped the Jazz would accommodate him with a trade, a request Miller agreed the team would try to honor.

"Any conversations between me and Carlos need to remain between me and Carlos," Miller wrote in a text message. "If/when there's something to say publicly, we'll announce by usual means."

There was some skepticism within the organization that such a conversation had taken place. The Jazz have stressed all along to Boozer that he should be prepared to play this season in Utah, given the difficulties associated with making trades.

But such a decision in regard to trading Boozer would seem to increase the likelihood the Jazz will match Portland's offer to Millsap.

Tim Buckley of the Deseret News...

"He still has a little despair, still is a little bit disappointed about the situation," said Millsap's uncle and rep, DeAngelo Simmons. "Because (the Jazz) really played hardball, and he wasn't paid attention to.

"To not set a value on their player and let someone else do it," Simmons added, "is questionable."

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The Jazz, according to Millsap's reps, later said no offer would be forthcoming until other similarly skilled free agents - including Shawn Marion, who went from Toronto to Dallas as part of a multi-team sign-and-trade, and Cleveland's Anderson Varejao, who re-signed with the Cavaliers - established their true value.

Millsap's side didn't appreciate the wait.

"Shawn Marion never rebounded for you. Varejao never sprawled on the floor for you. They never took a charge for you," Simmons said. "Why let those guys set the market for you?"

Tim BuckleyDeseret News...

"The indication I got is that they're not going to [match]," said Millsap's representative and uncle, DeAngelo Simmons.

Yet even while somewhat mixed signals seemed to be coming from the franchise's front office Saturday, general manager Kevin O'Connor did have this to say regarding Jazz ownership: "I don't think the Miller family likes to be bullied."

But bullies the Blazers are trying to be.

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"We're going to have seven days to take a hard look at the decision we're going to make," Jazz president Randy Rigby said Saturday in Lehi, where he was playing in a charity golf tournament hosted by Deron Williams — a tourney for which Millsap, incidentally, did not show up as previously planned.

"I think it's going to take time for us to analyze it and really make sure we're making the right decision," Rigby added. "We've got to look at the financial well-being of the situation."

 

Gordon MonsonSalt Lake Tribune...

Losing Millsap is particularly toxic and obnoxious to the Jazz because he is their guy. They drafted him, they developed him, they gave him his opportunity, and, given the fact that top free agents don't line up to come here, losing what is theirs is painful.

Especially when what is theirs gets 16 and 10 a night.

Jody Genessy of the Deseret News goes edgy in this blog posting. I think? 

States with a majority of votes for Boozer are colored in blue. States that chose Hinrich are red. And states that picked Thomas are green.

...

Oregonians apparently have a soft spot for Hinrich, because Paul Allen's kingdom is the only state that is colored red. (Not to politicize this, but it is kind of humorous that Oregon is red while Utah is green. That's gotta make liberals who recycle in Utah quite happy.)

Mike BarrettBlazers.com...

So, in short, the report is suggesting that the Blazers really didn't have anything to lose, and had a lot to gain by doing this. Best case, they land one of the premier, young big men in the Western Conference, and fill a need for a physical, rebounding power forward they've desired. Worst case, Utah matches, but still needs a willing trade partner to help them move Boozer, who many in Utah say, has played his last game in a Jazz uniform.Again, the only two teams with the cap space to absorb a lopsided deal, possibly involving Boozer, are Oklahoma City, thought to be finished adding parts for now, and Portland. However, this doesn't mean that Utah couldn't make a deal that didn't involve one of those teams. If they choose to match, and work a trade with someone else for Boozer, they'd only slightly reduce the amount of tax owed, as reported by the Salt Lake Tribune.

One other interesting scenario was mentioned by that paper late Friday night. It implies that while being very interested in Millsap, the offer sheet could also be used to simply force the hand of the Jazz to make a different trade that favors Portland.    

Wendell MaxeyBeyond The Beat...

It's not a matter of if the Utah Jazz match Portland's offer to Paul Millsap, but simply when.

As Gordon Monson - a columnist for the Salt Lake Tribune - wrote Saturday night, the Jazz should re-sign Millsap and trade Carlos Boozer for a defender that would better suit Jerry Sloan's offense....and Utah has said all along they are committed to matching a Millsap offer. 

So that takes care of Utah.

In Other News...

Jason Quick with a nice piece/video on the evolution of Jerryd Bayless...

"I thought, 'Pfft. What can you tell me? I scored 30 a game,'" Bayless said. "I wasn't quite that cocky but ... at the same time, (I was feeling) there's not really too much you can say to me right now. Who else has done that coming into the league? Chris, D.Will ... none of them came in and scored 30 a game. But it was the worst possible thing. At the time I thought it was the best possible thing, but for me and this team, it was the worst possible thing."     

Awoj, Yahoo! Sports goes after KP...

Pritchard has long liked to talk about never laying up on the golf course and burning through cell batteries and the way that the Blazers had outworked and outsmarted the NBA. Few have been terribly impressed with how Pritchard handled the highs of the job, and now there are doubts about how he's handling its lows.

After the first 10 days of free agency, so far Pritchard stands as the summer's biggest loser.    

Ian Thomsen, CNNSI with an in-depth piece on negotiation strategies with Nuggets VP Basketball Ops Mark Warkentien. Perhaps some good advice for KP and B Roy?

Put away the Blackberry and the cell phone and get on an airplane. "Whenever you can, you need to close the personal distance," Warkentien said. "Sending an e-mail is probably better than a fax. A phone call is better than an e-mail. And face-to-face beats a phone call. In this electronic era we're so busy texting and e-mailing and all that stuff, and it was a reminder to hear them say you need to get face-to-face. Think about something as simple as an argument with the wife -- it's a lot easier to blast her over the phone than it is when you're talking face-to-face. It's a lot easier to hang up the phone and be mad all day, but when you're in the same room it's a different kind of argument."    

Andy Popp of PDX Pipeline looks at which of last year's rooks has the best chance of a sophomore slump.

The 4 players ranked in order of sophomore slump likeliness:

1. Nicolas Batum
2. Rudy Fernandez
3. Jerryd Bayless
4. Greg Oden

Your thoughts?

Oh yeah, JJ1 got paiiiiiiid.

Please drop any other links in the comments. And be sure to frequent the fanshots.

-- Ben (benjamin.golliver@gmail.com)

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When Utah matches, it just means that we’ll be going into the season as is. Not optimal, but the Euro cap holds will disappear and we’ll have over nine million in cap space.

It is what it is.

draft the stache

by Cablinasian on Jul 13, 2009 10:40 AM PDT reply actions  

The cap space is all but gone, regardless if Utah matches

Roy & LA’s extensions will be in effect before we can use the cap space. That is why if they are to make any upgrades, it is better to do so immediately and before fall camp starts.

by gr8odensravens on Jul 13, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Roy/LMA don’t matter until next summer. We’d have space at the deadline.

draft the stache

by Cablinasian on Jul 13, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even more space than we have now.

Keep in mind that everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazers Edge.

by pualo on Jul 13, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

and he’s Canzano’s friend. I wonder who his source is.

draft the stache

by Cablinasian on Jul 13, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, how can any BEdger give any credibility to Wojezwhoski?

What ever happended to journalistic standards?

Exactly how has Pritchard turned into the big loser? He didn’t ink Turkgolu to a deal? Disappointing maybe, but not something to step out onto the ledge about.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Jul 13, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

i hear you. despite his opinion pieces… awoj has broken more signing stories this summer than any other journalist. so he’s got that going for him.

by Ben Golliver on Jul 13, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Canzano also admits that he he feeds Woj Blazer “insider info.” I am skeptical of any Blazer news by Woj that seems to mirror Canzano.

draft the stache

by Cablinasian on Jul 13, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

when was the last time jc broke a blazers story

by Ben Golliver on Jul 13, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the very implication that Canzano has broken a story is funny. (BTW, the Pooh Jeter thing was priceless.)

Woj’s article seems to read like a sensationalized form of what Canzano is broadcasting on 95.5.

draft the stache

by Cablinasian on Jul 13, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

i think woj has plenty of people feeding him stuff about kp with most of the real information coming from outside oregon.

by Ben Golliver on Jul 13, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

That info is tainted

That info lead him to say the following: “Pritchard’s greatest gift has been his ability to persuade owner Paul Allen to spend money.” How laughable is that sentence? Spending money is what Paul Allen into the Jailblazer era. KP’s greatest asset has been his ability to find the right talent in the draft and do whatever it takes to get that talent.

by da34shadow on Jul 13, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

i’m not talking the quality of the info here nor am i defending him. i’m talking about the source, that’s it

by Ben Golliver on Jul 13, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I would just think that he would be a little more selective in the colors he uses to paint the picture. However, if you are going to be a Blazer fan you have to have thick skin.

by da34shadow on Jul 13, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't doubt that he's being acurate ...

… in reporting what other GM’s and agents are saying.

So what? Consider the sources. Other GM’s and agents. As if these people don’t have their own agendas to work.

The part where he shows a lack of integrity is in the personal attacks. Claiming Pritchard was humiliated or that he can’t convince Allen of extending Roy for the max.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Jul 13, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

my only point here is that canzano isn’t the sole source of his reports. that’s all! lol

very limited point!!!!

by Ben Golliver on Jul 13, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's a tinge of hypocricsy whenever people rail on Adrian ...

Wojnarowski by taking shots at his integrity for him supposedly making personal attacks against Kevin Pritchard.

Everybody makes personal attacks against other folks at some point in time, so it’s just a matter or whether or not those attacks have substance to them. Regarding Wojnarowski, it seems that his sources negative comments toward Pritchard are of merit.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Jul 13, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he makes these allegations for years now

It would be time he cites more than anonymous sources.

If you want to trade our spare parts for Devin Harris, I have three quarters I would like to trade for your dollar

by Norsktroll on Jul 13, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

That he's been humiliated?

That he can’t get Roy a max deal?

That his calling other GM’s with the same offers that have been previously rejected?

The first requires at a minimum that KP have a skewed and extremely low sense of self-esteem.

The second can hardly be proven or even given credence to at this early stage.

The third could easily be someone putting their own spin on a situtation. So what if KP keeps calling Paxson and asking if he’ll deal Hinrich for Outlaw and spare change? Ask often enough and you might get the answer you are looking for.

Wojnarowski basically takes off the record comments by people who could easily have motives and agendas of their own beyound just keeping Adrian informed and throws in several non-issues, like missing out on Marion and Areiza or not pursuing Odom and slams the guy as a humiliated, whiner who is obviously out of his depth and pannicking.

If it smells like dog poo, it probably is dog poo.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Jul 13, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I don’t doubt that other GMs and maybe agents dislike KP. He has made several of them look foolish and the media, and us fans, have continually tooted KP’s horn. I’m sure other GMs dislike him for that. Plus, the Miles situation probably didn’t help his, or the Blazers, cause. I wouldn’t be surprised if AJ has some sense of general league opinion. He might be overstating the views of a minority of league personnel.

I am, however, VERY skeptical of AJ’s claims to know what is going on inside the Blazers organization. I would be rather shocked if KP, Nate, or any of their people were feeding AJ this information. I wouldn’t be surprised if the inside information has been fed to AJ by Canzono, or is pure speculation and sensationalism.

by DC Blazer on Jul 13, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

wowwwww

you’re forgetting:

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2009/07/steve_blake_comes_up_with_anot.html

Also, blazer betty is my 2nd favorite betty after too short’s…

blah blah blah blah lame comment - lame commenter

by Bandwagon Butcher on Jul 13, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder how many misses he gets per year.

Is he just firing a lot of missiles?

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.

by staylost on Jul 13, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

he’s been rock solid all summer.

by Ben Golliver on Jul 13, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

So Roy really is quite upset then?

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.

by staylost on Jul 13, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s listening to the same tape you are

by Ben Golliver on Jul 13, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shouldn't we expect Roy's words

to be in alignment with what his agent is attempting to accomplish? I’m sure he’s been coached in that area..

Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave

Also: COMCAST SUCKS!

by TwoDeep on Jul 13, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for that really

While you’re at it why don’t you link to what L*ker posters are writing about Greg Oden. I always felt I needed more rage in my mornings.

by neutroticblazerfan on Jul 13, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

That and...

When he dies, on his deathbed, he will receive total consciousness.

So he’s got that going for him.

by DonkeyShins on Jul 13, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's still a reliable journalist, been on top of almost every FA signing

But yet, I get the feeling he has a personal hatred for the Blazers front office.

The Chicago Bulls.....the more profitable Los Angeles Clippers.

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 13, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's my feeling too. I wish he would stick to reporting the news, while Quick goes back to the backstory pieces

Wojnarowski already wrote an article attacking KP while he was with ESPN. Then a biting one with Yahoo on the Darius Miles email. They seem to have a history.

If you want to trade our spare parts for Devin Harris, I have three quarters I would like to trade for your dollar

by Norsktroll on Jul 13, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's many, many months to early to be handing out grades.

The proof will be in the pudding……in the pudding of this upcoming season. Giving A+’s to Cleveland for attaining Shaq, Toronto for paying HUGE bucks to get Hedo, the Lakers for basically trading Ariza for Artest et cetera is premature. The jury is still out on all these off-season moves; and who knows, KP could come out smelling like a rose because of both the moves and non-moves he has made.

Roy will be signed. Everyone knows that. So what if Nate signs only for a one year deal. I’ve always thought KP has intentially recruited the thoroughbreds that set us up to be a fast pace team, if not a running one. I’ve seen no evidence that Nate is on-board with that. Perhaps the one year deal is the best for both of them.

I think now it’s getting easy for NBA representatives and news media outside of Portland to take shots at Portland because of what they are in the process of accomplishing. When the team was down-trodden and trying to rise up it was one thing. But now that they’ve met with a lot of success with an extremely bright future on the horizon, jealousy and resentment are beginning to set in. The Goliaths of the world are easy to dislike. Just ask Wilt Chamberlain.

Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave

Also: COMCAST SUCKS!

by TwoDeep on Jul 13, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brandon Roy has a right to be frustrated with Vulcan Inc. Chairman Paul Allen, VSE ...

CEO Tod Lewieke, and other members of upper management if they’re stepping in by not allowing middle management — with that being the basketball operations department of the Portland Trail Blazers, which is headed by GM Kevin Pritchard — the financial flexibility to sign the franchise cornerstone to a five-year, maximum-level contract extension.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Jul 13, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He won't

He’s like Canzano, he won’t admit he’s wrong.

My best example of this, December 2007 before Oregon played the Sun Bowl, the Canzano column was basically “The Ducks have given up and are losers.”
After the Ducks destroyed South Florida in the Sun Bowl, instead of admitting that Oregon really played well and proved him wrong, his column was “The Ducks aren’t that great, its the Big East that sucks.”

So, don’t count on that.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jul 13, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Milsap truely didn't want Utah...

…he could always ask them to not match the offer sheet…albeit he won’t do this but he could.

by Jimbob91577 on Jul 13, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

But they probably wouldn't listen

If they can swing a deal for him in any case.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jul 13, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

he could

but even if he did (which he won’t) the Jazz wouldn’t have to listen.

by jksnake99 on Jul 13, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was reading wikipedia to see where Larry Miller's money came from.

One of his auto dealerships is named “Stockton to Malone Honda”.

The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers

by lukeyhere on Jul 13, 2009 10:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Don't Forget this one ...

Larry Miller bought St. John’s Honda (which was a great little dealership) and moved it to what is now “Hillsboro Honda”

"Let's go out there like a bunch of crazed dogs!" - Lawrence Taylor

by TP for 3 on Jul 13, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Someone needs to explain the thinking behind nonsense such as this:

from the Tim Buckley quote:

But bullies the Blazers are trying to be.

How is making an offer to a restricted free agent bullying? Isn’t the whole goal to make an offer that the player’s current team will be hard pressed to match ? Doesn’t his current team have the opportunity to retain his services regardless of what the player wants by having the chance to match the offer? How we are “bullying” while every other team that makes an offer to a RFA is doing business as usual is absurd.

Skadoosh

by postup on Jul 13, 2009 10:52 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, I don’t think anybody considered Toronto a bully for shelling out more bucks for Hedo. He was apparently worth it, so they paid a higher price. Maybe Hedo’s wife is a bully.

With that logic, teams in warm locales are bullies because they have an additional draw for players that we can’t compete with.

The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers

by lukeyhere on Jul 13, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

L*A

The L*kers are the biggest bullies on the block, they’ll steal your lunch money then use it to pay a discounted rate on the best FAs

When reached 39 years of following Portland basketball you have, be as passionate of the Trail Blazers you will not!

by two4larue on Jul 13, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yah.

I was laughing at that too.

So trying to sign a free agent is bullying? If Millsap is good, than we want him on our team. If he’s not good and we are just trying to get Hinrich, than why are they upset about us making an offer to a loser.

Teams that have been bullied this year:
Orlando Magic
Los Angeles Lakers
Indiana Pacers
etc.

All this bullying. I’m glad every else other than the Jazz like being bullied. We wouldn’t want to get competitive would we?

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.

by staylost on Jul 13, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

We are being hardnosed

And aggressive. If that’s bullying, so be it.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jul 13, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

i just keep getting the mental image

that if one of these writers that call perfectly legal and sensible business moves “bullying” were to lose a game of checkers to a 5 year old, they would probably call the kid a bully too.

Skadoosh

by postup on Jul 13, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know I think Brandon Roy was bullying the Rockets

When he hit that shot last November, or when he hit the layup against the Knicks to win the game. He should have just laid back and let Portland lose…

If you aren’t moving forward in the NBA, you are moving back, deal with it media.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jul 13, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

ease up, dudes

it wasn’t even the beat writer who used the word first, it was Jazz GM Kevin O’Connor. And I think he was only referring to the fact that the Blazers may using the Millsap contract and the limited timeframe to force the Jazz into a trade. It’s all just business; I’m sure nobody’s actually going to hold a grudge. Let’s not get too worked up over semantics.

Uh, do you think you could draw me like a ninja?

by Shums on Jul 13, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know

I’m having fun with it too.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jul 13, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that quote is actually from Yoda.

Keep in mind that everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazers Edge.

by pualo on Jul 13, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Well,

I just think it’s because it appears that we upped the ante big time, forcing Utah to have to pay extravagantly to retain the services of a player that they developed. Our offer was probably unreasonably high, even though there is probably little chance he will sign with us ….. a team who already have a pretty good PF on board.

Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave

Also: COMCAST SUCKS!

by TwoDeep on Jul 13, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can keep Millsap, Utah. Just work out a 3-way trade that sends Boozer to Detroit and Prince our way.

Thanks.

by halo_on on Jul 13, 2009 11:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Naww...

Prince is too short…and likes to wear purple or butt-less pants on MTV.

Oh…wait…wrong Prince.

by DonkeyShins on Jul 13, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awoj

Here is my question, why does Awoj write this article? Why does he damn Pritchard so easily? Why does he post the following quotes from GMs that KP is ’"agitated" and "panicked" and even "desperate"? I think I have the answer. He loves to break a story and is very good at it. This is what he is hearing and it is what he is going to write. He is good with signings because he finds the facts and reports them. I think this little KP bashing is more of the same. He is finding opinions and then reporting them. What it tells me is that a couple, maybe a few GMs love to make KP look bad. My assumption here is that he is using the same sources to report this story as he did with the Darius Miles situation. That is life, some people will not like you…

by da34shadow on Jul 13, 2009 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

He's a moron

People are entitled to their opinions and I’m entitled to say they’re wrong.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jul 13, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Apropos of Adrian Wojnarowski, he's done a fine job reporting news regarding the NBA and has ...

appears to have reputable sources; therefore, I’m way more inclined to read his articles than biased personal attacks against him by ignorant, rose-colored glasses wearing Blazer fanantics.

Even though Wojnarowski may be exaggerating the disdain that fellow NBA front office members have for Pritchard, there still seems to be at least some substance to those reports. Similarly, Jason Quick appears to be right on the money regarding Brandon Roy’s frustrated angst with Vulcan Inc. and VSE executives.

So, it actually isn’t a matter of you disliking just “opinions,” but rather an aversion to reports published by paid journalists. All things considered, you might want to think twice before tossing out the “moron” label. Remember, as the ol’ adage goes, “people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.”

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Jul 13, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Way to throw out the ad hominen attacks!

by lrh86 on Jul 13, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

What substance?

You say there seems to be some substance. Ok, what is it? And what does Quick’s reporting about any Roy angst have to do with Pritchard being unable to convince Allen of anything? Try reading Dave’s comments on that subject. They sound far more substanitive than anything written by Wojnarowski.

And when do a couple of small substantive pieces of information lend credence to a larger picture someone is trying to paint? I could say you are a worthless, long haired bum, who can’t hold a job and has an over-inflated sense of how knowledgeable he is about the NBA. The fact that maybe one and half of those statements are true does not come close to making any of the others true.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Jul 13, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude that was a low blow!

Debate is good & goodnatured ribbing is fine. Outright name calling is uncalled for.

by We-B-Dunkin on Jul 13, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

No name calling.

Re-read it.

AK has long hair – fact, not name calling.

And unless he’s gotten a job recently, he is, by his own statement, currently unemployed – half fact.

Now if I had wanted too, I could have actually called him that, with at least a portion of it being true – or of substance, to use AK’s term. But the fact of a portion of the statement having some substance doesn’t make the entire statement true. The same point applies to Wojnarowki’s piece. He slams Pritchard with no more evidence than some hearsay, which, even if partially true, is not proof of all the rest.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Jul 13, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was the worthless bum part that was name calling to me.

I am also unemployed at the moment no construction happening in Van,WA. but if you call me a worthless bum I’m gonna ask you to step outside

by We-B-Dunkin on Jul 13, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I talk a big game, but I'm pretty mild-mannered when push comes to shove; as ...

a result, it takes a lot of smack talk for me to get angry at someone—especially over the Internet. However, I totally agree with you that most folks wouldn’t take too kindly to the “worthless bum” line. It doesn’t bug me, though.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Jul 13, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it doesn't bother you then thats cool

I have ribbed you myself in the past over our different views, maybe I over reacted as I get the point timg56 was trying to make about half truths. It just came off as a little over the top to me. maybe I am over sensitive as I have never had trouble finding employment in the past.

by We-B-Dunkin on Jul 13, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, it was over the top.

It was meant to be, since that was my opinion of Wojnarowski’s piece.

As for being over sensitive, I will leave that up to you. Having been laid off 4 times, I can certainly see why someone would be sensitive, particularly if they felt I was implying that being unemployed was the same as being the so-called “worthless bum”.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Jul 13, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

For what it's worth, I'm not offended by your comments. Besides, I actually enjoy ...

the back-and-forth jabs that are delivered on both ends. In addition, it’s tough for me to refute the “you are a worthless, long haired bum, who can’t hold a job and has an over-inflated sense of how knowledgeable he is about the NBA” comment you made.

It may seem harsh on the face of it; however, there’s admittedly some blunt truth in your outspoken, straight-shooting assessment of me—there’s no dout about it.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Jul 13, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

The worthless bum part was used as an equivlent to Wojnarowski's

humiliated line. Both are the sort of comment designed to hit below the belt.

As for any truth in my “assessment” – even though it is not one- it pretty much starts and ends with the long hair part. Well, ok , maybe the tiniest bit of truth on the sense of knowledge part, but that’s what makes it so fun to argue with you.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Jul 13, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

You certainly are, but calling him a moron ........

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by TwoDeep on Jul 13, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Bullseye on KP

Is his badge of success. Comes with the territory. You have peers offering unsolicited advice, national pundits taking potshots (for all the same reasons Canzano sensationalizes his “news”), competitors complaining about “physical play”, etc. That all adds up to KP hasn’t just arrived, he has arrived in force. Competing forces will try to bring him back to the pack – it’s the nature of the beast.

by blacknoiseNW on Jul 13, 2009 11:16 AM PDT reply actions  

bullies

KP isn’t a tool. He’s just seen by the media (which is always about the ‘now’ rather than the ‘long term’ ) as not knowing what he is doing. We all see what the media has to say in present tense. In the long term, there are a few deals that could be made that may happen after Millsap decides not to come to Portland. The press is all about what’s happening in the second after it happens. We drafted Roy in a trade after picking someone else. It could all be about conceptualizing what we are doing both psychologically to other teams as well as what we plan to do. Millsap to PDX wouldn’t be bad, but he could just be a pawn in a grand scheme that Pritchard has up his sleeve, somehow knowing that if Millsap stays with Utah, or comes to Portland, either gives us positive options in the future. Pritchard isn’t a knee-jerk opinion kind of GM. He’s shown it in the past that the future team is a bundle of different options, all which lead to positive production in team dynamics.

by Rudyciudad on Jul 13, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here is the email I sent Wojawhoski.

Did Pritchard steal your lunch money as a kid? Your recent column on FA winners and losers makes one think he might have.

Let’s forget for the moment that the summer isn’t over and address only the points you bring up. So Portland got burned, used, played by Turkgolu. It happens. Hedo wouldn’t be the first guy to have a change of heart after being told by his wife that she wouldn’t be happy with his career decision. And if that was a smoke screen, so what. Players and agents use this as a negociating strategy all the time. Trying to portray it as Pritchard being humiliated seems to be delving into the realm of hyperbole.

Next you criticize him for missing out on Ariza and Marion. I doubt Ariza was ever on his board. Why should he be when Portland already has a player in Nic Batum who will give you want Ariza can? And Marion? The same Shawn Marion that pouted his way out of a great situation in Phoenix because he felt he wasn’t appreciated? No wonder you also consider Portland’s apparent lack of interest in Lamar Odom as a failing of their GM.

The fans in Portland have greatly appreciated the fact that current management has identified talented young players who also believe in hard work and good character. Players who really buy into the concept of playing as a team and not just a bunch of individuals with an eye to their next contract. Lamar Odom is not a bad guy. From what I have heard he is anything but. However he also has demonstrated a fair sense of looking out for number one. That’s not a sin, but it also is not exactly the sort of attitude Portland wants to introduce to its lockerroom.

Poll most Blazer fans and I think you will find they prefer adding Millsap to Odom, Ariza or Marion by a wide margin.

Were your questionable knowledge about the Blazers and who they should go after not enough to cause one to question your integrity, the claim that Pritchard can’t convince Paul Allen to offer Brandon Roy a max contract extension ought to be proof of it. Not only is it very early in the negociating period, but Portland has good reason to not to just walk up to Brandon and say “Make three wishes young man.” This is just the beginning of a series of extensions they are going to want to sign their players to. If you were concerned about insightful analysis rather than personal attacks, you might do a little research to see when the last time was that a team had this much young talent all at once. The sort of talent that eventually has to get paid. Paul Allen may be one of the richest men in the world, but that doesn’t mean he should forget business basics.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Jul 13, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Well done!

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Also: COMCAST SUCKS!

by TwoDeep on Jul 13, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why does Awoj love Odom for the Blazers so much?

Does anyone else see Odom taking the rest of his career off? He has his ring? He has his money? What will be his motivation now?

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Jul 13, 2009 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

The actual reason that the Portland Trail Blazers should be wary of Lamar Odom has nothing to do ...

with work ethic; rather, the problem is he wouldn’t want to play in this region — which is his inherent right as an unrestricted free-agent — along with how he’s a better fit on the Los Angeles Lakers as a 4 at the weakside elbow along the high-post in Phil Jackson’s triangle offense instead of on the Trail Blazers as a 3 at the weakside corner in Nate McMillian’s high/low zone offense.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Jul 13, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you for giving me the "actual reason"...

I tend to think the reason you gave for his fit in the offense is a better observation than your comment on his desired region to live. He may keep himself motivated if LA is the only taker at $7 million a year but if he signed a $10-12 million a year deal with Portland, a place he does not want to be (or so I have heard), I would expect to see his level of effort take a nose dive.

PTB Liberation Day - 2/10/04

by tssbro on Jul 13, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did KP hate on Valvano?

That’s the only explanation I can think of for Awoj hating on us. He and Jimmy V were like that.

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by skywaker9 on Jul 13, 2009 11:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Interesting read in Bayless' interview

He as much admits that last season was a humbling experience for him after getting a big head after Summer League (my words, not his). It will be very interesting to see him play tonight – if and how it’s different from his play last summer.

BTW, Ben, speaking of “entering a portal to a different galaxy”, welcome to Las Vegas and a week of 115 degree weather!

by Storyteller on Jul 13, 2009 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

The weather was nice there for the last 3 weeks

A lot cooler than last July at least.

The Princess of Blazersedge

by Zaig on Jul 13, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

June was below average temperature

but it started to pick up the last couple of weeks. Well into the triple digits every day this week predicted.

by Storyteller on Jul 13, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I was there June 26 to July 10 and even though it reached 100+ most of the time it didn’t seem as bad as last year at the same time. Could just be my memory playing tricks on me, but I seem to recall days of 110-115. Maybe I just got lucky this year :-)

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by Zaig on Jul 13, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was invigorating for me to hear Bayless say that,

but especially so the statement about how his 30 point per game outburst in the Summer League was a curse, not a blessing for him. Right on Jerryd, you have fortunately learned what you really need to be doing and working on.

Opinion: I also think his Summer League performance was equally toxic to many Blazer Edgers, causing them unfounded euphoria and irrational expectations and predictions. The volume of unrealistic hype I read here regarding Bayless, based almost solely on a Summer League performance I think played unintentionally to my lack of acceptance of him as a potential premium player. But the statements he made in that interview with Quick, about his realization that he needs to be more than just a drive to the basket scorer, has me beginning to believe that maybe he actually will develop into an efficient PG in this league. For sure, nobody works harder or wants it more. How can I not root for him in a maximum way?

Brandon Roy just destroyed everything in his path. There's your rational analysis -- Dave

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by TwoDeep on Jul 13, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sophomore Slump

1. Nicolas Batum
2. Rudy Fernandez
3. Jerryd Bayless
4. Greg Oden

I like Batum at 1. We’ve set the bar extremely high for him, but if he doesn’t improve his offensive game, it will be considered a failure.

I like Rudy as 2 because he had a good rookie year and it is possible that he won’t get much better. He’s not as young as most rookies and he needs a lot of work on ball handling and mid range shooting.

Not sure about Bayless3 and Oden4. Bayless was pretty awful his rookie year, so I don’t really see how he could have a sophomore slump. The only thing Bayless did well was be athletic, and there is no way his athleticism can slump. On that logic, Oden is more likely to have a sophomore slump than Bayless. (Although I doubt either of them can or will have one barring injury.)

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by Zaig on Jul 13, 2009 11:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I wasn't too impressed by the Andy Popp article.

Sounds like he spent some time on BE, jotted down some notes and then offered up his “insightful analysis”. The only real point he makes is that Batum may suffer a bit, not because he has a sophmore slump, but due to a minute crunch at SF.

hakkaa päälle !

by timg56 on Jul 13, 2009 12:02 PM PDT reply actions  

well said

how would anybody know anything about blazer basketball w/out blazersedge??

blah blah blah blah lame comment - lame commenter

by Bandwagon Butcher on Jul 13, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't Batum suffering next season be based on an assumption he was amazing last year?

I can’t see how he has anywhere to go but up. If he’s truly as amazing on defense as BE’ers believe then he won’t lose those skills unless he stops trying. He wasn’t much of an offensive threat so I don’t see how he could get any worse there. What am I missing?

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by leeroyjenkins on Jul 13, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

he had one of the best adjusted +/- rankings on the team. Link

draft the stache

by Cablinasian on Jul 13, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know a lot of people love that stat, I''m not one of them

I think that stat is too dependent on who else is on the floor at the time. Look I’m not saying Batum is horrible, but …shall we say I think there were good reasons he wasn’t finishing games.

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by leeroyjenkins on Jul 13, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

adjusted +/- is engineered to adjust for a lot of the variables. It isn’t perfect, but it does a better job than +/-.

draft the stache

by Cablinasian on Jul 13, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

doinking?

seriously? pics?

Keep in mind that everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazers Edge.

by pualo on Jul 13, 2009 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

I first read that line as “drinking and doinking”.

Dinking would be the alcohol free version.

The cowards never started
The weak died along the way
Only the strong survived
They were the Trailblazers

by lukeyhere on Jul 13, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's how I read it too.

Drinking and doinking is definitely my idea of a good way to spend a weekend.

Keep in mind that everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazers Edge.

by pualo on Jul 13, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

When did Odom become a small forward?

Is it just me or does it seem like every media outlet wants the Blazers to pursue Odom. He hasn’t played small forward since his Clipper days. Turning 30 this year and wants a big contract. The guy wants to live on the beach and has proven to be a career underachiever.

He fits with Lakers and the triangle offense. I don’t understand where he fits with the Blazers.

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Jul 13, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Odom is the best talent on the FA market

and is well capable of playing the 3 and the 4. You won’t find a better player to be a 3rd/4th wheel than Odom.

by jksnake99 on Jul 13, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

he’s 30 years old, fits better as a 4 than a 3, is a career underachiever, tends to take games off, doesn’t really fit the culture of the team…

draft the stache

by Cablinasian on Jul 13, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Odom has enough perimeter skills to be a quality 3

Despite being an underacheiver, he’s still been a productive player, particularly when not forced to be a #2 option. I think the team is ready for an Odom type character. I would offer him the same deal we offered Hedo and see if the beach really means 2 mil/year to him.

by jksnake99 on Jul 13, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d far rather go into the season with nine million of cap space and a bunch of expiring deals.

He’s much more of a 4 than a 3 at this point. He’s also 30 years old and doesn’t fit chemistry wise. It’s a Trader Bob move to bring Odom in at this point, regardless of character and fit.

draft the stache

by Cablinasian on Jul 13, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

he's 29

I see your point, but I don’t think you’ll find a better use of the capspace than Odom. I would have made him an offer very early in the process.

by jksnake99 on Jul 13, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

he doesn’t really play the right position, is older than our core, and doesn’t fit character-wise. I think a better use would be to wait until the deadline, even with the risk of no move being made.

draft the stache

by Cablinasian on Jul 13, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love ya jake but I disagree with you on this one too

I can’t see any way Odom makes this team better. Also it’s a HUGE asumption Odom would be happy playing here.

Blazer Fan

by leeroyjenkins on Jul 13, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I kind of like the idea of having nine million in cap space at the deadline.

draft the stache

by Cablinasian on Jul 13, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I would be weary to throw all our cap space on Odom

It would have comedic value for Rice to keep saying Odom and Oden. But apart from that, I would rather like to wait if the Bobcats disintegrate and put Wallace on the market. Reports have it that the Warriors are also up for sale.

If you want to trade our spare parts for Devin Harris, I have three quarters I would like to trade for your dollar

by Norsktroll on Jul 13, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really want a point guard. Batum’s adj +/- and Pelton comparisons lead to me like him at the 3. If we had a good veteran point guard that could break down teh defense………

Plus, waiting ’til midseason lets us see where we stand with the four sophomores.

draft the stache

by Cablinasian on Jul 13, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last reports from the camp of Miller were that he still wants more than the MLE, and that was all Miami was willing to offer him to get him out of Philly. I don’t think the Blazers would be willing to spend that on him either. Maybe for Hinrich or Sessions.

If you want to trade our spare parts for Devin Harris, I have three quarters I would like to trade for your dollar

by Norsktroll on Jul 13, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Regarding the Lamar Odom debate, I side with Cablinasian over jksnake99.

Odom is definitely an outstanding player, but not necessarily a good stylistic fit with the Portland Trail Blazers due to both positional and on-court chemistry reasons. I still think that off-court chemistry and culture are of no vaule, but there’s something to say for on-court chemistry in basketball. Unlike baseball, basketball players rely on one another as teammates when running plays, playing defense, et cetera.

Stupid people have stupid ideas.

by AK1984 on Jul 13, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd argue he is not a 3

That was his position during his Clipper days and note his shooting percentage. He may possess the “best talent”, but he is a known underachiever. His best attribute comes from his ability to take his man off the dribble at the power forward position.

"I'm at the thingamajig talking the yakety-yak" - Kenny Smith

by blzrfan on Jul 13, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I won't argue this

I do argue that he does not have a reputation as a hard worker and as such could be a poor fit in portland. It could create issues with nate, other players, or set a poor example for other players. I’d argue Oden is young and impressionable…. do you want him hanging out with Odom and picking up his habits or would you rather people like Roy, Aldridge and Bayless are around?

"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

by ratbastird on Jul 13, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am preparing for the worst

Utah matches and the Blazers are left with nothing but cap space. Until Friday, my fingers are in my ears and I’m humming to myself.

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by SuperDave on Jul 13, 2009 2:08 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Awoj

really seems to have a personal dislike for Pritchard.

There are words that can be used in reporting that are not as inflammatory as was Awoj uses and yet relays the same information. Did KP pee in his soda or something? Is Awoj a laker fan?

That said, i think there is truth that KP has issues negotiating with other GMs. Blazer fans are knocking KP for a lack of getting things done, and yet it takes two. It’s not in any other teams interest to make portland better. Think about it. this could be a team that dominates for a decade. Do YOU really want to feed that beast? Add to that, that some GMs may be jealous or pissed at their perception of KP, and you have an inability to get work done. The failing on KP resides in a failure to maintain relationships with other GM’s. Even people you don’t like, you need to be on working terms with to get work done.

Maybe a humbler KP would have been able to swing something. Maybe he wouldn’t and other GM’s would still be cursing him and jealous of what he’s done.

As for a trade for Odom… really? We want to draft a lazy player? No thanks. I’m happy with players that are willing to work.

As for Nate… if he was no longer for portland, why wait a year? He could have gone a year sooner by not signing. I’m not saying it’s not true, but why wait a year?

Personally, I’m not all that concerned as I think the same blazer team can do quite well with no changes. I am concerned about the SF log jam. I’m also concerned that Roy may have become upset during the negotiations process. The fact Quick seemed to have blown a gasket confirms, to me, that there may be some truth in it. What I first thought was an overreaction now seems to represent the fact that Quick is closer to information that we don’t have.

So Ben… when are you going to interview JQ to find out why he blew his gasket? Is it an overreaction or does he know something that we don’t know? Did Roy say something to him?

"Fernandez, to my eyes, is the Blazer who walks that walk most comfortably. A lot of Portland's fans (egged on, dare I say, by their local broadcasters) lament things like how Ron Artest or Yao Ming get to hit Brandon Roy's arms.

But I suspect Fernandez sees all that and thinks: We get to hit arms! Cool!"

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-39-135/On-Playoff-Experience.html

by ratbastird on Jul 13, 2009 2:43 PM PDT reply actions  

THE BAYLESS VIDEO IS M-O-N-E-Y

Release the B-Rex, next year he shall be ready and the swarms of defeated foes shall lay bloodied and trampled beneath they feet…

We don’t need a vet PG, Bayless will make Brooks look like a 50-year old pirate with a peg leg next year. ALL YOU HATERS BE FRONTIN’

RELEASE THE BEAST!

I have my P.h.D in unreliable hyperbole.

by Eat Politicians on Jul 13, 2009 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I like Jbay....

…too! He has the quickness of Brooks, the size of Billups, and the athleticism of Rose. If he can put it all together, you’re looking at the next Kevin Johnson. JBay is the future at the 1 for the Blazers!

by Chris-8ally on Jul 13, 2009 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

You guys don't want Milsap

he sucks. Trade for Kirk Hinrich, he’s the perfect fit to Roy :)

by LoveForTheGame on Jul 13, 2009 10:14 PM PDT reply actions  

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