Were the bulls going to give us rose instead of hin? I’d rather have bayless than Hin, based on the upside. Of course, I also put in the time to track the rookies and their off season. Trading Bayless would be pure fail. People who support giving up Bayless are bitter about Sergio.

I would agree with this comment if Blake was being traded and not Bayless, but Hinrich is a huge upgrade over Bayless (unproven as he is).

I do agree that Blake and Hinrich have similar skills but I happen to like Blake as the backup to Hinrich during our championship runs. It’s like having the best of both players the entire 48 minutes!

I say, go ahead and offer Millsap the “toxic offer”, force Utah to overpay for Millsap — or keep him if they don’t match — if they do match then do the 3-way deal with Chicago and include Bayless.

I like the idea of the Hinrich-Blake combo

What have we been saying about Blake for the past year or more? “He’s not a starter but he’d make a great backup” Put Hinrich and Blake together and you’ve got 48 mpg of quality PG production. Good shooting, low turnovers. Solid execution for the regular season and the playoffs

The #2 PG needs to provide a “change of pace”? Is that what’s really necessary? I think it’s overrated. The Blazers weren’t built to be a running team anyway, and too often Bayless bas been a one man fast break. Portland has modeled their system to be similar to San Antonio, and that means “grind it out” and win with defense and rebounding. The Blazers have excelled at rebounding, Cap’n Kirk would help with the perimeter defense. This is the formula for playoff success.

I like Bayless, a lot. But he is not irreplaceable. In a couple of years when Blake slows down KP can get himself “another” Jerryd Bayless. (They could even trade Joel Przybilla to MN for the rights to Rubio, if Kahn doesn’t get a better offer) I don’t let JB’s “potential” stand in the way of getting the deal done, if that’s the Bulls “final” offer. Rex could be a similar player to Ben Gordon for Chicago, they need him more than Portland does, and the Blazers still needs to upgrade the PG position. I don’t think that Nate/KP want to part with Blake, so this proposal gives them the chance to eat their cake and have it, too

those were all names discussed. the deal wouldn’t be for all of them

he’s a very very solid NBA backup PG. Travis is no slouch either. Chicago wants to get a 20-10 guy AND add a young scoring combo guard just for Kirk Hinrich and Tim Thomas? don’t get greedy Paxson

Bayless’ ceiling >>>>>>>> Hinrich’s ceiling.

Hinrich’s an improvement on Blake, but the bad contract evens it out pretty well.

We’re not just giving up Blake. We’re also giving up any number of OTHER players that cap space might get us between now and the trade deadline. That IS an NBA level talent worth of assets. I wish people would quite acting like we’re not giving anything up in deal like this. Big Cap Space = Good player.

Chicago is the most dispensible team in this scenario. If there are any other teams interested in Boozer that have a player they might be willing to offer that we’d also like, Chicago can get cut out of this deal pretty easily if they’re going to ask for the moon (outlaw + bayless+boozer?!). Portland, however, is really only replaceable by OKC and maybe Sac, and apparently, neither is all that interested.

then we need a new GM

Obviously when they drafted Rose they were determined to rebuild around him. With Gordon in Detroit now, and Kirk potentially on the way out, they might as well add more young talent that might yield some long term gains, rather than a Blake who really doesn’t offer much for their future.

Even with Boozer the best the Bulls can hope for is 4th/5th in the East this year. Since they are giving away lottery players in Kirk and Tyrus, they are trying to maximize their long term return.

Thomas is at $6.46 this year, Hinrich’s at $9.5, if we only give up Outlaw then we’re over the cap…

I think KP needs to add a 3rd PG with NBA experience, regardless if Blake or Hinrich is the starter. There has to be a contingency plan for this scenario

and no, I don’t think Pooh Jeter is that guy

As in All-Star? Portland Fans have to rank tops in the league just ahead of Bulls fans in over-valuing their young players.

Cause he’s young and had one good game, he’s going to be a Star?

Now you sound exactly like Bulls fans.

Tyrus Thomas is only 22 years old jumps out of the gym, has freakish athletic abilites, his biggest knock is help defense and basketball IQ. That doesn’t mean he’s going to be a star in the league. Some bulls fans didn’t even want them to trade him for Amare.

Plenty of guys in this league never realize their potential. After 2006 everyone thought Luol Deng was going to be the next star. He hasn’t done much since.

You can’t hold on to all your young talent and expect them all to be stars. The Bulls already made that mistake, and let Gordon walk, held onto Deng too long and signed him for too much and now appear ready to give up on Tyrus Thomas. The blueprint for failure has already been laid.

In a salary cap league you can’t hold on to everyone and you can’t sign everybody you draft (aldrige, roy, oden, rudy, bayless) …at some point you have to take your shot.