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That Toronto deal was a fake, but ESPN has five teams (including the Blazers, although I think that's unlikely) being interested and the Lakers not willing to offer much more than the MLE.

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Ugh i was exceited for free agency....

But im starting to hate it. This just frusterates me and gives me a head ache….

by YikesItsCameron on Jul 1, 2009 7:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice!

I don’t want him, but hopefully he goes to a bad team for a lot of money.

by Falcao on Jul 1, 2009 8:02 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Ariza is long Athletic and explosive

These are things that KP values highly. Do not be surprised if we at least court him.

by The Natural ala Mode on Jul 1, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

better than Turk

younger and with much more upside. Don’t Sign the Turk!

by The Natural ala Mode on Jul 1, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

He reminds me too much of what Batum will be in a few years.

And he isn’t that far away either. But it does not make sense to not use our cap flexibility while we have it.

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by OdenFanBoy on Jul 2, 2009 2:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

I think that’s just more of David Lee’s sabre-rattling. He’s trying to drum up interest for his client while LAL wait-and-see which teams, if any, are willing to give him more than the mid-level.

As to the interested teams, which will offer him major minutes? Toronto? Maybe the Rockets? That’s it. Without PT, he can’t increase his value or his chance at his next big contract.

In any case, the Lakers will simply outbid any team offering him the mid-level. On top of making more money, he is assured a starting role and major minutes.

"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."

by ignign*kt on Jul 1, 2009 8:18 PM PDT reply actions  

David Lee

is Ariza’s agent

"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."

by ignign*kt on Jul 1, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Broussard was just on SC

and said that L*A only offered TA the mid-level exceptiona and he’s treating that like a slap in the face. Cleveland is putting on the full-court press right now, but Broussard did mention Portland as one of the teams who had the money to offer him more

(no mention of Nate/KP’s pursuit of Turk on the WW “sport’s leader”)

by two4larue on Jul 1, 2009 8:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Ariza isn't going to walk away from a spot in the world champ's starting lineup

to backing up LJ and Delonte West for the same amount of money, IMHO.

"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."

by ignign*kt on Jul 1, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Worst case scenario

Ariza signs a 1-year deal w/ LAL and tries to cash in next year.

"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."

by ignign*kt on Jul 1, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Horry did it.

*Unless KP has a secret plan that makes this statement incorrect.

by staylost on Jul 1, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL would Rudy Fernandez threaten to leave If we Offer Ariza as well?

that would be funny.

"shaq and zach randolph have the same trainer... "

best one liner i ever heard.

by bowdown on Jul 1, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions  

oh ok

i just got back after a few hours when i left this was assumed to be true. i guess false rumor

"shaq and zach randolph have the same trainer... "

best one liner i ever heard.

by bowdown on Jul 1, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

no worries

upon review my post was a bit testy lol

by mathrockerpdx on Jul 1, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Drama seems to follow Spanish media sources.

Not that I look down on it. Just seems to be a common theme.

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by OdenFanBoy on Jul 2, 2009 2:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would much rather have Ariza than Turkoglu… AND he’s cheaper. Isn’t this a win-win?

by Cablinasian on Jul 1, 2009 8:41 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

A chanch to offer Ariza 6.5 mil

He would be good value at that price and if not LA eats 1 mil in cap,no skin off our nose either way

by southern oregon on Jul 1, 2009 8:45 PM PDT reply actions  

No way that offer is made.

You guys already have that much invested in Webster, plus you have Rudy and Batum and Outlaw. What are you going to say to Ariza when he accepts that offer? Ewps! Just kidding!

"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."

by ignign*kt on Jul 1, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

trade would be dependent on Outlaw leaving.

by Cablinasian on Jul 1, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed, people forget, its about acquiring "assets" other teams might want...

if we sign Ariza, we’d be getting an economical deal very likely, and a player entering his prime, if we do that, even a guy like Batum is expendable to get a “knock your socks off pg,” that is a HUGE position to put our team in…why doesn’t KP see this…

by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on Jul 1, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently, you're not aware that we're currently considering offering a SF $10 million/year

And looking to package Outlaw/Blake/other stuff for a PG upgrade.

Have you read BE at all lately?

by ninjasocks on Jul 1, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

It still doesn't make sense if Outlaw is there or not.

Unless you’re okay with a platoon of Ariza/Webster/Batum; unless you’re okay with investing money in another SF instead of David Lee, Paul Millsap, or Brandon Bass.

"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."

by ignign*kt on Jul 1, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right now, Nate is having dinner with Hedo, a SF

They’re planning to upgrade the SF position with a veteran and package the extra SFs (Batum, Outlaw) in a package for a PG upgrade.

I don’t see why they wouldn’t want to spend less on younger SF who plays better defense and has a better PER (especially if they can weaken the Lakers while doing it). Do you?

by ninjasocks on Jul 1, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

length > strength

the taller they are, the better KP likes ’em

by two4larue on Jul 1, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sign Ariza to a good deal, there's gotta be a team out there that would give us a really, really nice pg

Possibilities: DJ Augustin for Batum & Bayless? For Ariza/Outlaw/ & Bayless…we may even get a guy like Conley w/o gutting our SF’s future, if we had Ariza for the next 8 years, I wouldn’t mind Batum leaving, he could garner quite a bit…BUT THERE IS NO CHANCE ANYONE WILL TRADE FOR HEDO, OR NO WAY WE CAN TRADE BATUM IF WE SIGN HEDO, HE’S OUR ONLY FUTURE THEN

by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on Jul 1, 2009 9:29 PM PDT reply actions  

why would we trade Batum if we sign Hedo

instead it makes Outlaw and webster expendable…and KP can take the rest of the summer to see which teams are going after FA’s in the 3 position and then use the 3’s and “other assets” we have to target the right PG for us…

I am now a fan of HEDOnism

by Matt Daddy on Jul 1, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Outlaw would definitely be on the way out

I think Webster, because of injury concerns, probably doesn’t have as much value at the moment.

by ninjasocks on Jul 1, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

We could trade/cut him, Sergio Rodriguez style.

I object.

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by OdenFanBoy on Jul 2, 2009 2:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to see a stat on how many of Ariza's 3pt shots were

a) created of his own accord
b) contested versus wide open off Gasol or Kobe double teams

Rudy whacking aside…I am not a big fan of Ariza….and people around here think Hedo only had one great year.

I am now a fan of HEDOnism

by Matt Daddy on Jul 1, 2009 9:29 PM PDT reply actions  

The more I think of this, the more I like it, sign Ariza, and then use him, or one of our other sf's for a trade

I really wouldn’t mind Ariza as our starting SF in our potential dynasty, and if we gave up Batum & Rudy, the pg we could get, I think could be sick…

Ex: DJ Augustin, Roy, Ariza, LMA, Oden Bench: Bayless for the 1&2, Webster 3, Outlaw 4, Pryz 5

I even think that’s too much to give up for DJ, but you get my drift, we’d have serious trade options, bc we coulld part with a lot…I think Batum & Rudy could get us Rondo, I haven’t thought much about the scenarios bc I’ve never contemplated giving up Batum

by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on Jul 1, 2009 9:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Finally, Devin Harris is scheduled to make 7.8 mill this year, not too much, and we could get creative...

the point is to see that we could get really creative in improving our team, and start propsoing the types of trades that would improve “both trading teams,” those ar the trades that often happen

by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on Jul 1, 2009 10:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Or, we could trade a guy like Batum for Chalmers straight up

He’s got fantastic “D” and hit 367% on 3’s last year, while taking over 300 of them

by TrentEdwardsHoF2018 on Jul 1, 2009 10:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Apparently the Celtics are looking to ship him

They’ll sign Starbury, Cassel and Moore, but they want to ship him, even after he posted monster numbers in the playoffs. Sounds like there might be something wrong here.

by ninjasocks on Jul 1, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

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