Turiaf wasn’t an evil Laker anyway. Never Odomized anyone or anything like that. Isn’t he French or something?

I’ll make fun of his hair, but not his teeth. Can he help his dumb teeth?

He can play backup C in case of injury? He can play defense on PF? Seems like it.

The one worry I have is I haven’t seen him play on a real nice defense. We would be dropping the offensive aspect by getting this guy, so I want to know he can be a strong piece on a smooth defense like Spurs past and Houston now.

…I’ll be pissed if this is another one of Roy’s lame ’I’m a little sissy Kobe" things!

They’re selling postcards of the hanging
They’re painting the passports brown
The beauty parlor is filled with sailors
The circus is in town
Here comes the blind commissioner
They’ve got him in a trance
One hand is tied to the tight-rope walker
The other is in his pants
And the riot squad they’re restless
They need somewhere to go
As Lady and I look out tonight
From Desolation Row

Cinderella, she seems so easy
“It takes one to know one,” she smiles
And puts her hands in her back pockets
Bette Davis style
And in comes Romeo, he’s moaning
“You Belong to Me I Believe”
And someone says," You’re in the wrong place, my friend
You better leave"
And the only sound that’s left
After the ambulances go
Is Cinderella sweeping up
On Desolation Row

Now the moon is almost hidden
The stars are beginning to hide
The fortunetelling lady
Has even taken all her things inside
All except for Cain and Abel
And the hunchback of Notre Dame
Everybody is making love
Or else expecting rain
And the Good Samaritan, he’s dressing
He’s getting ready for the show
He’s going to the carnival tonight
On Desolation Row

Now Ophelia, she’s ’neath the window
For her I feel so afraid
On her twenty-second birthday
She already is an old maid

To her, death is quite romantic
She wears an iron vest
Her profession’s her religion
Her sin is her lifelessness
And though her eyes are fixed upon
Noah’s great rainbow
She spends her time peeking
Into Desolation Row

Einstein, disguised as Robin Hood
With his memories in a trunk
Passed this way an hour ago
With his friend, a jealous monk
He looked so immaculately frightful
As he bummed a cigarette
Then he went off sniffing drainpipes
And reciting the alphabet
Now you would not think to look at him
But he was famous long ago
For playing the electric violin
On Desolation Row

Dr. Filth, he keeps his world
Inside of a leather cup
But all his sexless patients
They’re trying to blow it up
Now his nurse, some local loser
She’s in charge of the cyanide hole
And she also keeps the cards that read
“Have Mercy on His Soul”
They all play on penny whistles
You can hear them blow
If you lean your head out far enough
From Desolation Row

Across the street they’ve nailed the curtains
They’re getting ready for the feast
The Phantom of the Opera
A perfect image of a priest
They’re spoonfeeding Casanova
To get him to feel more assured
Then they’ll kill him with self-confidence
After poisoning him with words

And the Phantom’s shouting to skinny girls
“Get Outa Here If You Don’t Know
Casanova is just being punished for going
To Desolation Row”

Now at midnight all the agents
And the superhuman crew
Come out and round up everyone
That knows more than they do
Then they bring them to the factory
Where the heart-attack machine
Is strapped across their shoulders
And then the kerosene
Is brought down from the castles
By insurance men who go
Check to see that nobody is escaping
To Desolation Row

Praise be to Nero’s Neptune
The Titanic sails at dawn
And everybody’s shouting
“Which Side Are You On?”
And Ezra Pound and T. S. Eliot
Fighting in the captain’s tower
While calypso singers laugh at them
And fishermen hold flowers
Between the windows of the sea
Where lovely mermaids flow
And nobody has to think too much
About Desolation Row

Yes, I received your letter yesterday
(About the time the door knob broke)
When you asked how I was doing
Was that some kind of joke?
All these people that you mention
Yes, I know them, they’re quite lame
I had to rearrange their faces
And give them all another name
Right now I can’t read too good
Don’t send me no more letters no
Not unless you mail them
From Desolation Row

Copyright ©1965; renewed 1993 Special Rider Music

we would accuse him of being a draft dodger

dude cant win

the knocks totally outweigh the positives…

ive watched him on the lakers and the warriors. He has that shot on lock down.

I agree with Mortimer, Paul Allen is saying that he enjoys being aggressive on draft day. Even though the economy is down, Paul Allen has hardly given Blazer fans anything to worry about as far as spending money on players. And right now with the direction the team has been going, I am certain he wants to enjoy the ride with KP.

He went back to the Pistons after being waived by the Nuggets. They tells me he wasn’t really interested in chasing rings. Maybe he’s at the point where he values stability more than trophies.

But even though McDyess is likely to choose a team that looks to be a contender over the next 3 seasons, I believe that at his age, McDyess is more interested in the playoffs than getting 25+mpg during the regular season.

It is all about going deep in the playoffs and maybe getting another ring. If Portland seems to be the most likley spot, then he would be coming to Portland. I don’t think that he is gonna be here though.

Top third of his class!

and thus, #7, especially when Blair and Jennings might be there is preferable to next years possibilities.

I mean, we’d be comparing Bayless to a rookie, so impatience really has nothing to do with this.

It’s about being objective. And most fans of the team just aren’t.

Personally my opinion would strictly come down to where Brandon Jennings goes. I think he’s the better point guard prospect by a couple of degrees, and I’d rather have him as my project than Bayless.

That said, I don’t know if Turiaf is worth Outlaw to me. I think Outlaw has more value than just getting Turiaf, although upgrading point guards would have value in itself too. Jennings would also be signed on the cheap for an extra year (a definite bonus).

He has really good court vision from what I’ve seen. He’s also become increasingly underrated in this draft. The guy broke Carmelo Anthony’s scoring record at Oak Hill Academy, averaging 32.7 points, 7.5 assists, 5.1 rebounds and 3.7 steals per game. It’s not like he got worse by playing professionally overseas either. If anything he’s a more mature player who puts a greater emphasis on defense and team play. I think he’s the second best PG in the draft and has a good chance to end up being the best player in the draft when all is said and done.

Having said all that, I still think Bayless is a million times better NBA prospect. His defensive potential + his ability to draw fouls makes him unique. His work ethic, which is apparently the best on the team, makes him a freaking monster. He’s a virtual lock to be a serviceable backup and his ceiling is in some weird place I’ve never seen before.

Take Monta Ellis, then make him bigger, stronger, a lock-down defender, better three point shot, incredible work ethic, and a serial killers instinct. That’s where I see his ceiling. Considering the fact that KP called him the hardest worker he’s ever been around, I think it’s possible he actually makes it there.

     BRex didn’t get enough minutes to show his stuff. Let’s see
what he can do with 20 min as the backup PG before we make a
any decisions. Great intensity, workaholic and a physical specimen.
PATIENCE !!!

1.) We really haven’t really seen him play consistent minutes. When he filled in for Blake, Jerryd electrified the Rose Garden with his cross-overs and dunks.
2.) Jerryd Bayless is a totally dedicated professional athlete who is focused on training and improving.
3.) Jerryd was a lottery pick who didn’t bitch at all to the media about the situation he was in. Coach made a decision that was “best” for the team (i.e. Sergio had 3 years experience and knew the plays), and it is clear that GM is making the next decision to clear the way for Bayless to get those consistent minutes and show us what he has as a 20 year old pg prospect.

Honestly is you consider yourself a Blazer Fan and DON’T want to give Jerryd Bayless, a very popular pick just a year ago, a little bit of time to develop into an NBA player because you don’t “like” him…. you gotta take a deep breathe and re-evaluate your negative vibes… Giving up on someone before they have had their deserved chance is bad kharma.

there was a reason he went where he did (#11), and his first year in the league didn’t help that.

Awesome Slogan. But seriously Nate needs to repeal the headband ban.

Its like Kryptonite to Roy’s Superman.

they’re just a mess at this point. They need to use their parts to go after a big name guy.

Where to start… you got some things right, and a ton wrong.

-Sergio turns the ball over less than some of the top PGs in the NBA, he’s a high risk high reward player.
-Outlaw is no more streaky than any other shooter. He’s 48% from inside the 3pt line. 37% from beyond it. This means his TS% is identical to Turiaf’s. The difference being that Outlaw can create his own shots and actually score.
-Outlaw is younger than Turiaf, so is Sergio. N
-Quality big? He blocks the crap out of the ball and he’s a decent passed for a big, but he doesn’t score or rebound the ball for crap.

Basically, Turiaf is similar to Outlaw, just on the other end of the floor. You overvalue Turiaf for the same reasons that Portland fans over value rudy. The only difference is that Rudy is a rookie and can actually improve still. Turiaf has improved his shotblocking and passing in the last couple years, while getting worse on the offensive side of the ball.

Basically, I wouldn’t trade Turiaf for Outlaw straight up right now.
Przybilla/Turiaf down low would have a pretty bad time scoring the ball.