who plays center behind Joel? Love?

this would never happen.

arguments of “not enough talent coming back for Oden”, the trade doesn’t make sense from Portland’s perspective. The original poster says that Minny should consider trading Love because they need a player to mesh better with Jefferson. But that’s exactly why trading Oden for Love makes no sense for Portland – because Love wouldn’t mesh in the starting lineup with Aldridge.

The Wolves should worry about finding a Center to mesh with Love, he’s going to be a far more efficient player than Jefferson.

Wolves should see if Memphis/OKC wants Jefferson and trade him straight up for the 2-3 pick to get Thabeet. (Although if they got the 2 pick Rubio would also be tough to pass up.)

not a jab at you …..just agreeing with the person who said that

They have one guy over there that honestly thinks Love is a better player than LMA.

Yeah, I think we’ll keep Oden, who was just as good raw-stats-wise in less minutes and out of shape and coming off a bad injury and on a really good team.

Yeah… Kevin Love is alright, but he’s no Greg Oden and he will always be a 6’8"-on-a-good-day slow but skilled PF. The kind that does nothing but abuse the dummies of the league and in turn gets abused by every star PF because of how physically overmatched he is, and they are just as skilled.

Yeah… no, this is a really incorrect idea. I apologize for it on behalf of whoever thought it up.

Mortimer

And I take a Greg Oden posting a PER of 18 while coming back from injury over a healthy Love posting a PER of 18 any day.

Are any of you concerned at all about Oden’s injury history? Or perhaps more specifically, concerned whether or not Oden’s ceiling is dictated by his superior athleticism, and that said ceiling will/may lower if he loses some of his athleticism?

I think most Hoopus readers agree that Oden clearly has the superior potential of the two, but we’re trying to a grasp on how good will he be if he only comes back at 85% of what he was before microfracture surgery.

There are two things I wouldn’t do… and this trade is both of them. GO’s potential and the known significance of having a legitimate 7 footer completely rules this trade out. I live Kevin Love and wish him nothing but the best… I think he’d be a good player to have on the roster… but not at the expense of a piece like Oden.

when I posted the idea. I think it would be a risk for the Wolves, due to Oden’s injuries, but a risk that is definitely worth taking, because Oden could be the centerpiece of a champion, and Love and whoever gets picked #6 are not going to be in that category.

Our fans at Canis have an unbelievably high impression of Love that I do not share. I consider him a quality power forward that happens to be a little undersized, and happens to play next to an equally undersized center. It’s an odd fit that was very controversially formed by trading away OJ Mayo last June.

It’s my hope that David Kahn is less enthused about McHale’s Smallball plan than, well, McHale was, and he feels free to engage in trade talks that involve Love. While going after Oden is very aggressive and unlikely, it’s the type of idea that I’d rather see us pursue than simply dumping Mike Miller’s contract for a slightly above-average veteran. I don’t see us making any serious ground in that scenario that wouldn’t occur with the natural progressions of Love, Jefferson and Foye.

we can kiss our Championship dreams goodbye.

The Blazers think he will develop into their championship center.

Who do you trade your championship center for?

Blazers Edge is a breath of fresh air compared to O live. It’s good to see intelligent opinions instead of insults and name calling. Sure sorry I wasted all last year over there instead of here with real fans… Thanks for the change!

….because the Wolves don’t need to trade for anyone to get a guy who can foul everyone in the stadium. They can just tell Madsen to do that for much less. ;) Wait, I just saw something out the window…did Greg Oden just foul my mailman?

In all seriousness, I don’t think this happens either way. Oden has worlds of potential and until they get an idea of whether or not he’s simply a defensive/rebounding kind of guy (when he’s not fouling little kids in the stands) or someone with the complete package, I don’t think they’d trade the guy. Love is a unique player but Oden has a chance to be something much more valuable to the Blazers than Love would be…regardless of their individual talents. I kind of get the sense that in the long run, most of the offense with the Blazers will be LMA, Roy, an Bayless/point guard to be traded for while the 3 spot jacks up 3s and rebounds and the center rebounds and plays the role of Mr. Bad Ass. Love is a going to be a great player but I don’t think he’s going to be Mr. Bad Ass.

I do think that a package with Batum, Pryz, and…well, the Wolves need to walk away from this draft with a lead guard. I think the 3 way potential between the Bulls, Blazers, and Wolves is off the charts and if I were Kahn I’d be looking for a long guy who could play the 2 and 3 as well as a way to walk away with a pick that I know would get me Ty Lawson or Jonny Flynn if I’m giving up the 6 and Love.

Minny should back out, because you know we would be screwing you over AGAIN

“I appreciate the spirit, and I think you knew you’d probably get some strong reactions out of this, but if we’re giving up Love and the sixth for anyone it’s got to be CP3 or similar.”

Might be fun to read one year from now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=788H0K5KrYI

…but I won’t do that…

were our basketball team plays, we don’t trade championship big men for fat dudes from Lake Oswego

Foye vs Roy

This article in no way attempts to minimize the worth of Roy’s terrific and deserving Rookie-of-the-Year season. We used numbers to attempt and show that Foye stacks up favorably with the best of the 2006-07 rookies, and to suggest that you keep an eye on his production this coming season as the Wolves’ probable starting point guard.

In closing, we showed that when Foye got big minutes (if rarely), you saw his production rise not just accordingly, but exponentially. On the other hand, Roy stayed pretty consistently around his very solid 16, 4 and 4 averages in his 35 minutes per. Give Foye those 35+ and you got 21, 6 and 4, if just for five games. This argument won’t be of paramount importance for another few years, but it’s a good start.

Don’t you just love those stats?

PippenAintEasy came to my defense over there.. blast from the past

Last I posted, there was a bit of tension brewing that I thought had been diffused. I go to the dentist and when I return there’s been major surgery done here. Or am I just imagining it all?

that is blasphemy. are you from LO or something?

This shouldn’t get ugly since we all know this won’t happen and the teams are not interested to compare the relative value of Oden, Love and LMA.

Can’t get to Love’s hotspot chart right now, but below are his numbers from 82games, he certainly isn’t a more efficient shooter, not even close around the basket (eFG%). Few PFs are. Note that Love also gets blocked more. And Aldridge is doing it on a team where he isn’t the #1 scoring option and asked to play a little further away since a big center is standing around the rim.

Love left, Aldridge right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tMuVjTayo8

?? I thought most of it was pretty clean… no? ah, not questioning just sayin, I was chillin at work enjoyin the debate (despite being biased/on drugs/and still sain some how) but I couldn’t believe what I was reading…

My first reaction was …. someones on drugs. Love for oden? I’m not sure who they could pair with love that would make us bite let alone just a #6 pick…

I don’t know squat about Love other than he cried during a game, is apparently from oregon, even though he can’t play for an “oregon” team, and that he got traded for mayo….

my only arguement as to who is better … boils down to….
how many games did the timberwolves win last season? N if it wasn’t 5 more than last season without love, then ?? pfttt… yeah love rocks, what seed were they in the playoffs? oh yeah love rocks how many centers do they really have? pft yeah their general manager know’s what he’s doin ( I know they just underwent some change but still, It’s minisodee pop.)

kk… anyway yeah love for greg … thats funny.

that would think this was a good deal for Portland obviously has no basketball IQ

find out who voted yes and ban them.

thank you :)

Then the sixth outlaw and sergio to Memphis for the 2nd

We would retain some cap space and trade exception we could pull a back up center in. Gortat maybe?

Haha no wouldn’t do that trade

a hassle for them but they’d be willing to bite that bullet. Wolves fans are starting to lose their minds.

at what point is Oden someone you consider trading?

I actually think the Love + #6 pick is a relatively even trade in value, but one that makes no sense for Portland (they don’t need another 4 and it’s too hard to give up on the Oden dream).

But at some point Oden will have to be evaluated as the player he is in the NBA, not the player we all wish he would be. If Portland does it sooner they get more in return, but another season or two like the last one (or possibly worse since he could be out with injuries) and his value goes wayyyyy down.

So when should they cut the cord? Or is it worth it to ride this out to the very end?

are him catching his own shot after he gets blocked.

I honestly thought this died already.
What is it about the impact that Greg Has on the games that he plays in that some just don’t see? Defense strengthens, Offensive put backs and the dunks…oh the dunks…. guards shy away from a set oden, Forwards throw the ball back out much quicker with oden on them, and someone said something to the effect that greg cant pass? WHAT?…. LOL…

this is just silly to even consider.

Portlands front office would laugh, hang up, call back and ask, (still laughing mind you), " No no wait, You were serious?" and hang back up.

done done and done…. Drugs is the only explenation I see for the thought that Kevin Love AND a #6 pick is even REMOTELY CLOSE to the impact player that Oden is.

Do powerforwards comment on how strong love is? Did 10000s of people ooddle over Loves potential?

How many more games did mini win over last season? yeah loves an impact play alright…that’s a hoot. in my humble horrible unprofessional opinion.